Abandoned Train In The Woods. Milford Train Station Part 2

[@lewisschaller2078]

The engines were Pennsylvania Railroad GG1's, they were electric and ran off of overhead catenary wires. They ran in the NE corridor at typically speeds of 100 mph. They were called widow makers because you couldn't hear them coming. There was 2 cabs in the engine one on either end so they didn't need to turn around to go the other direction. They were built from 1934 until 1943 and the last one was taken out of service in 1983

[@exploringwithdan7876]

That’s what I was thinking they were electric! But was confused when I seen a fuel gauge inside the train. 100mph! That’s fast assuming from that time, also I was thinking that’s why they had 2 front ends! Awesome! Thank you for all this information, i’m just starting to get into trains! I find it very intriguing. Thanks for watching!

[@lewisschaller2078]

@@exploringwithdan7876they did use fuel to heat them and the hot water to heat the passenger cars they used to pull. They were also used for freight service. They hauled the passenger train "The Broadway Limited" from NYC to Harrisburg then were swapped out for steam or diesel depending on the era for the rest of the trip to Chicago.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Now it makes sense! Thank you for all this information, it’s been very helpful!

[@steffenrosmus9177]

​@exploringwithdan7876 : 100miles is only fast for those who think time travelling starts at 88mph😂😂 the Fliegegender Hamburger (a German Diesel railcar) did 140 mph during the same time. And the fist electric train in Germany topped 140 mph in 1905. Sadly we put our efforts in other things during the 1930ies.

[@Jason-rn4jk]

@@lewisschaller2078interestingly they used electric coils to heat a boiler that in turn produced steam to heat the cab and passengers cars. I’m unaware of actual “fuel” being used as that would require a generator of some type and was prohibited into penn station in nyc underground with no ventilation, thus why electrification was the primary locomotive power on the northeast corridor even to this day.

[@TonyTitleGuy]

Bars were placed over windows on the Railway Post Office cars, used to carry US mail.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Yes now it makes sense! I also noticed on that railway car that the doors were pretty secure heavy duty, you can see at 18:22 in the video. Awesome! Thanks for watching!

[@michael.whelan2537]

Excellent. Thank you. It recalled a scene or two from Cormac McCarthy's THE ROAD, thus sending a bit of a chill up my spine...

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Such a good movie! The weather also helped out with the abandoned affect! Lol I’m glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!

[@dantiel4179]

Wow I can’t believe you found 2 GG1’S in the woods cool video

[@exploringwithdan7876]

I’m glad you enjoyed the video! It was amazing experience! Thanks for watching!

[@MrChrisP19]

Awesome video! Thanks for sharing! Keep it up!

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Thanks for watching!

[@JoshEaster-me2lj]

Please respect these GG1's if you find them!!! They may look derelict, but they are meant for preservation. The money just hasn't been available for restoration, and so they sit unprotected from scavengers. All of the railroad equipment in this video IS PRIVATELY OWNED!!! Be respectful.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Yes respect them! They are such amazing peace of engineering. Yes this is on private property I did mention it in the video I didn’t know it at the time as I walked up the tracks and went on the right side of the train, not until I want to the other side I seen the signs. That’s when I went to talk to the locals and find out some information about them. This owned by the Leatherstocking Railway in Milford Ny, I did a video with the volunteers on the Milford train station a week before that very nice people! I did ask about a train that I heard that was down the tracks more he wasn’t sure what I was talking about but I just think he was thinking a little ways down the tracks this is like the next town, but by talking to the local I found out that it is owned by them and that beautiful home that they are looking to turn into a museum but ran out of money what I’m told. I hope my videos bring recognization of this railway and money to support and maintaining this railway. Already have so many train nuts that are going to go visit the Milford train station and didn’t know about it until they seen my video. I’m actually Planning on going back this summer with my family for a ride! Thanks for watching and your concern!

[@mughug9616]

@@exploringwithdan7876 Sounds like something needs to be done to protect them because human nature being what it is, they will not get the respect they deserve or requested. Also, if they are ever preserved, it sounds like the cost will increase as it seems people are able to gain easy access to them, disrepsecting and damage them further.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

@@mughug9616 I totally agree! I do know who owns them, it’s part of the Milford train station, what I hear is they were supposed to be sold a museum when they try to load them up they were too heavy so they put them back on the tracks and that’s where they have sat since then. Also, the money has not of been available to restore these, but with me bringing attention to them I hope the money does come in and people can donate to the Milford train station so this amazing piece of engineering history can be restored! 🤞I did a video with the volunteers at the Milford train station two weeks before this video if you would like to check it out, very nice people!

[@chriscadillac8448]

I can't believe it! I never thought I'd see a classic engine, just abandoned like that.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

So the story I got about this classic engine, was that it was supposed to go to a museum but when it came time to load her up to transport she was just to heavy. So they put her back on the tracks and that’s were she has been ever since! Also the funds have not been there to restore her. I’m working on trying to start a donation to try and restore her! 🤞 thanks for watching!

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Meeting some locals and learning about some history in the area! At 21:27 in the video, enjoy!

[@johndonlon1611]

The reason there are bars on the mail car (and also that heavy steel door) is because mail cars moved cash collected from post offices that handled US Postal Service savings accounts. You could open a passbook savings account at any US Post Office rather than a bank until 1966. That is why mail trains were targets for robberies. Also notice the mail car had a mail slot near the bottom of the car. When the train was stopped people could deposit mail right into the car.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Yes I did notice that! I was assuming it had to be something that held some importance, with the bars on the windows and the heavy doors. Wow 1966 I did not know that, make sense why they were prone to robberies. Thanks for all the information! I really do appreciate it!

[@Schlipperschlopper]

These rare US electric locos belong into a museum!

[@exploringwithdan7876]

I totally agree! They are such amazing engineering! Sad to see them sitting out there rusting like that. 🤞 they can be saved! Thanks for watching!

[@Schlipperschlopper]

@@exploringwithdan7876 Back in the 1930 and 40 GE locos were considered as the most modern and reliable! Sweden bought GE Electric locos diring the 1950s, Denmark too, only very few original US made Electric Locos (Westinghouse/GE) left from the WW2 era and before.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Wow I did not know that! Well it’s definitely a honor to be able to see one of these in person. Thanks for all the information! It really helps me understand more about these amazing engines! Thanks!

[@MikeyDee25]

Take a trip to Strasburg, PA and visit the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania to see a refurbished GG1 in all its glory. Also, go ride on a real steam train across the road aboard the old Strasburg Rail Road.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Now I’m going to have to do that! It would be amazing to see one of these GG1s in all its glory! Thank you! It’s really appreciated.

[@BearFlagRebel]

As far as I am concerned finding something like a GG1 in a forest is the Holy Grail of KZbin exploration.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

@@BearFlagRebel it was a honor to be able to find and see one of these amazing engines! I’m learning so much about these GG1’s from you guys! It really gives me a better understanding of these GG1’s thank you! I’m hoping they can be saved! 🤞

[@BearFlagRebel]

@@exploringwithdan7876 to be honest don't know much about their inner workings except they are electrical as opposed to diesel or steam. Just waiting for a video of people discovering locomotives, street cars, etc. of some kind long forgotten and lost memory. Love old buildings constructed around the turn of the last century in this country.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

@@BearFlagRebel I love the history! I lot of these places and things are disappearing and being lost forever, at least if I can get it on camera we can still see these places and things when they are long gone.

[@Wilett614]

This Locomotive is a Pennsylvania GG1 Electric Locomotive .They were built in the 1930s and served the railroad well into the 1970s.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

👍 They are such amazing engineering! Thanks for sharing!

[@alphonsotate2982]

There is no engine it takes power from above wires thru a pantograph contracting the over head electric wires.

[@Wilett614]

@alphonsotate2982 Correct It had 2 Giant electric Motors that power it I have ridden in one of these couple times myself

[@exploringwithdan7876]

@@alphonsotate2982 you are correct! There was also a engine that ran on fuel to heat the engine for the men! That what’s a subscriber told me, since in the video you can see a fuel gauge. Pretty amazing engineering! Thanks for watching!

[@TheRrxing]

That would be so awesome to walk up onto something like that. Especially where it is!! Thanks for posting. I would have to camp there! Looks like an old electric penn central. I always wondered how those looked inside. I grew up in Ohio where they didn’t have those.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

It was quite the experience! Yes you are right! It’s electric and only used fuel to heat the inside. It was made to go forward and reverse as you see in the video with the 2 front ends, pretty cool! I’m trying to get a hold of the rail way to give me another tour! 🤞Thanks for watching!

[@wallochdm1]

It would be incredibly expensive to even cosmetically restore the GG1. I had read somewhere that it would almost be impossible to ever have one run again for a long list of reasons.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Yes that’s what I keep hearing, but there is always hope! 🤞thanks for watching!

[@tankerman135]

GG1' s went on to serve until 1983-this, I believe is Cooperstown Jct., and there were 2 GG1's there at 1 point.....

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Yes you are correct! Cooperstown jct! So what I was told by the locals they were both bought by museum a few years back, but when it came to moving them they weighed too much, so they put them back on the tracks and that’s where they have sat since then. I’m amazing engineering they are! Thanks for watching!

[@davekc3am518]

Beautiful piece of equipment. Sad to see them wasting away. They would probably still do well today.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

I’m trying to put something together to try and save beautiful pieces of equipment, I’ll keep you guys updated! Thanks for watching!

[@frankblasky1296]

The electrical transformers inside a GG1 locomotive were filled with PCB insulation/cooling oil. Without replacing those transformers these machines will never return to any operating service. Good thing he didn’t run into any horned or wasps while poking around.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Would replacing those transformers be hard to do and very expensive? I would love to see these GG1s restored! No I got lucky it was still cold out but I’m sure by now they are back! 🐝

[@johnalder6028]

Great find ! Im surprised its not being cosmetically restored. Greetings from Port Saint Lucie , Florida.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Ok so the story I got was it was supposed to go to a museum, but when it was time to loaded up it was just to heavy, so they put her back on the tracks and that’s where she sat ever since. The funds to restore her just hasn’t been there so she sits there. I hope my video brings enough attention that we can help donate and help restore they amazing piece of engineering! I’m working on doing another video with the owners to see if we can set something up! 🤞thanks for watching! Ps love Florida! 🌴😎

[@mshum538]

Thanks for sharing your video, having worked around and on railroad rolling stock I always had a pair of good leather gloves so remember to protect your hands oh and street cars had controls on both ends, take care , 👍.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

I will definitely take that in consideration! Definitely notice how much chemicals, oils and other substances are around this kind of stuff. Better safe then sorry. Thank you! Take care as well! 👍

[@HaydenKuhns]

holy crap that's an awesome find!!

[@exploringwithdan7876]

@@HaydenKuhns that it was! It was a honor to be able to explore this beautiful of engineering! Thanks for watching!

[@mjchern1]

Finding a GG1 on the old Bel Del line is somewhat of a mystery, to say the least. That line was never electrified, so the locomotive had to have been towed there. The why and how must be an interesting story.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Yes indeed it is! And I’m trying my best to get the details for a update video! Stay tuned! Thanks for watching!

[@alphonsotate2982]

He is in a General Electric GGI locomotive

[@exploringwithdan7876]

It was amazing experience! Thanks for watching!

[@richardbause2453]

Did you get permission from the Cooperstown and Charlotte Valley Railroad's President to go climbing through the GG1's🤔? And; FYI, I'm the one who got the ties.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

I actually met him 2 weeks before this video! He did a video with me on the Milford Train station, really good guy! I’m guessing you didn’t watch the whole video I explain a lot about this situation, it’s ok it’s along video lol ok so when I was talking to him I asked him about a train that was on the tracks further down, I think he meant like alittle ways not being this far away he said he didn’t and it was left at that. So two weeks later I went and seen this GG1, so if you see where I park I parked in front of the train alittle ways up and walked down the tracks to the train and went right, there is no trespassing signs on the right side, so I only found out after going inside the GG1 and me at the time not knowing who owned it since I did ask the president if he knew of this train and said he didn’t I started going around to the locals, and trying to find out who owned it to tell him that I did go into the trains. That’s when I found out that charlotte valley railroad does indeed owns this train. I been trying to call the Milford train station, all I get is a voice recording and I left a message haven’t heard anything back, also tried calling the leather stocking railway and it just rings. So since I don’t live in the area I’m going to be planing a day trip down there again to talk to him, I’m also going to talk about setting up a donation for this GG1, I’m also donating what I made off these 2 videos to the Milford train station. Between these two videos I have over 30 thousand views, people want to come visit the Milford train station and want to donate. I want to keep this history alive for my future grandchildren. Thanks you for being concern.

[@jonbender9110]

How did a GG1 end up there it looks like there was never any overhead wired to power it? I'm guessing it was pulled there by a diesel locomotive.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

I’m not really sure I’m trying to find out more information on it, I do know who owns it and did a video with them a week before I shot this video. The number I was given just goes to an answering machine. Have to just drive back down there and see if we can meet up again and do a part 3 video! 🤞 thanks for watching!

[@wiscpoi]

Where you at? I love it that there is no graffiti on it. Love this video. Thanks for showing it.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Awesome! I’m glad you enjoyed the video! It’s in upstate ny, this is owned by the Milford train station. They are all volunteers and do an amazing job! I’m trying to work out something with them to set up some type of a donation to save this amazing piece of history! I will keep everyone updated date on this. Thanks for watching!

[@greyjackson2159]

great video! I enjoyed it! Thanks

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Awesome! I’m glad you enjoyed it! Hearing that makes all that hard work worth it! Thanks for watching!

[@greyjackson2159]

@@exploringwithdan7876 Well let me tack more onto that then, to really fuel your tank with gas. I'm now 54yo a disabled vet but I used to enjoy hiking, especially in the fall, so this video rang all 3 bells, fall, love of hiking/exploring, love of trains. So without knowing it, you & video productions like this allow bed ridden invalids like me, others like me, to 'relive the good times' when we could skinny up the bridge support and look out at the view and fit the pieces of the puzzle together. Again. Much appreciated. The positive benefits of your work extend out further than you know. Peace & blessings upon you Dan!

[@exploringwithdan7876]

@@greyjackson2159 you know I really don’t make much money off these videos, just enough to cover gas and maybe food. But to me it’s not about money, it’s about the adventure! I been exploring and hiking since I could walk. I truly love what I do. Also love the learning an the history! When I first started my channel I really did want to do it for people that have disabilities or are unable to see these places. You just saying what you said is enough for me. Thank you for your service and take care!

[@garycousino]

I guess the house across the street keeps the copper thieves away. Those engines look like they are to far gone to restore. At least they have avoided the scrapper

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Yes! I talked to the locals and they all keep an eye on them. They been there forever, what they tell me. Same years ago someone tried buying them and they loaded them up and found out they were to heavy for transport so they put them back and that’s were they sit for years. Thanks for watching!

[@GG1man]

@@exploringwithdan7876 They weigh in the neighborhood of 240 tons each. It's a pity they sit there wasting away. Fortunately several GG1s have been saved and preserved cosmetically. We will never see one brought back to operating condition, however. The technology that was used in the '30s is environmentally unfriendly nowadays. There are no foundries, in this country to cast new main frames, which have suffered cracking due to age and the milage put on them. For those of us old enough to have witnessed these beauties in action, we are fortunate.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

@@GG1man holy moly, 240 tons! I see why they had a problem trying to transport them. I would of love to have ridden in one of these! You are lucky! The experience must’ve been amazing! I know it’s low probability that these will be restored, but there is always hope. 🤞 thanks for the information!

[@alphonsotate2982]

There is no engine it takes power from above wires thru a pantograph contracting the over head electric wires.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Correct! Yup found that out from other subscribers, only engine used fuel was to heat the engine for the men. Thanks for sharing!

[@808TheDuck]

So cool!

[@exploringwithdan7876]

It was amazing experience! Thanks for watching!

[@robertschmidt7625]

The locomotive has the Penn Central logo and black paint still on it. Penn Central was the result of a merger of the Pennsylvania and New York Central Railroads in 1968 and lasted until 1976. The reasons: the timing of the merger, poor decision making from the top down, the 1970 bankruptcy filing, and excessive gov't regulations. In essence, PC was it's own funeral train, so sad.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

I’m learning so much about this from you guys! It really makes me understand more and more about this engine and it’s history! it really is appreciated! Thank you.

[@carlosvalle151]

Awsom😮

[@exploringwithdan7876]

@@carlosvalle151 that it was! Thanks for watching!

[@RoadTrekker866]

I found a historic photo of engine 4934. It was originally assigned to Amtrak.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Awesome find! I would love to see it! I to try and find it myself. Thanks for sharing!

[@exploringwithdan7876]

I just googled the engine number and found the old photos of her in here heyday! Awesome! Thanks!

[@Iconoclasher]

It was formerly assigned to Amtrak. All the GG1 units were originally made for the Pennsylvania RR.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

@@IconoclasherI also was told from some subscribers that these engines did so well that countries from Europe started buying them! From all the information I’m finding out, these are really amazing engines and rare now! It was a honor to be able to see one!

[@Iconoclasher]

@@exploringwithdan7876 I've never heard of or seen any being exported, but it's possible. (maybe the technology was exported) From what I remember from old articles in Trains, the two things that killed this locomotive was the level of PCBs (dioxin) in the transformers and the out dated electrical system. They ran on 11,000 volts @ 20hz. That was being phased out. One side note in the same article, they never knew the actual top speed of these units. I think they cruised at around a 100, but one was put on a dynamometer in the 1940s and it hit 120 and was still accelerating. The test had to be aborted because that was the limit of the dynamometer. It's surprising how many still exist considering it was a regional locomotive.

[@gratzmyers3242]

There are a few in museums around the country!

[@exploringwithdan7876]

That’s what I’m being told! I have to take a trip to go see one of these GG1’s! Would love to of seen one of these in there heyday! Hmmm future video? 🤔 lol thanks for watching!

[@F40M07]

Railfans, we need to get her out of there and cosmetically restored.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

I’m actually working on trying to setup a donation for this GG1 and the Milford Train station! I’m actually going to donate the money I get off this video to restoring this GG1. I’m trying to work something out with the Milford train station and other video soon! 🤞 thanks for watching!

[@F40M07]

@@exploringwithdan7876 nice. Thank you for helping this PC GG1!!

[@exploringwithdan7876]

@@F40M07 you are welcome but I can’t do with out you guys! So thank you!

[@bindig1]

Cool but I don't know how I would feel living in that house and having to see that train all the time. And no fat engineers on that loco. LOL

[@exploringwithdan7876]

I totally agree! They had to watch there weight for sure! 😂 thanks for watching!

[@douglasalan5783]

It’s going to take a small fortune and a lot of back breaking work to restore this GG1.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Yeah definitely up against it with this GG1, but 🤞it can still be saved! Thanks for watching!

[@Eric-sn4qz]

I believe Amtrak ran those engines for a short period of time on the NEC.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

You are correct! Thanks for watching!

[@mightyV444]

Mine's the 222nd 👍! 😊

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Awesome! Thanks for the support! It means a lot! 👍🔥

[@njerzee911]

WAY cool!!

[@exploringwithdan7876]

That it was! It was amazing experience! Thanks for watching!

[@bilguunpurevsuren5163]

Wow Nice video!! i liked. Please music name??

[@exploringwithdan7876]

I’m glad you enjoyed the video! The song is paphos by Mountaineer, hope this helps! Thanks for watching!

[@raymondmihal7953]

That train engine is called a GG1

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Thank you! Thank you guys for all the information! Really helps me out! 👍🔥

[@josephranker5716]

"Cooperstown junction" GG1s are full of bad bad transformer juice (pcb) super expensive to detox

[@exploringwithdan7876]

That’s what I’m being told, too heavy to transport and to expensive to fix. I’m going to try to setup a donation with the leatherstocking railway, people want to donate and come see the Milford train station. 🤞we can do something to save her. Thank you for watching!

[@smittysmitty481]

Milford NJ?

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Milford Ny! I should put that in the title. Lol I’ll do that now. thanks for watching!

[@smittysmitty481]

@@exploringwithdan7876 Thanks & really cool video!!

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed it!

[@leodavis7524]

👍

[@karuppiahpalanisamy6786]

These trains could be coverted as shelters for homeless people.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

What a shelter that would be! Just epic! Thanks for watching!

[@joeabels3931]

mail car?

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Yes you are right! I was told by one of my subscribers. You can really tell by the bars on the windows and how the doors are. Pretty cool. Thanks for watching!

[@GpunktHartman]

What about the Sunglasses , when a cloudy Sky? Any Problems to show You’re Face?

[@exploringwithdan7876]

🤔 good question! well the sunglasses are polarized and even if it’s cloudy 80 percent of UV’s can still make it through the clouds, the name sunglasses is misleading. I also have sensitive eyes to light. But if you really wanna see my face I have over 100 videos! Check them out! Some good ones 2! Thanks for watching!

[@carltonkeys6205]

The ill fated penn central year's

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Those were some good years! Thanks for watching!

[@scotabot7826]

Ha Ha... You just think it's "abandoned"!!!

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Hmmm just slowly rotting away into nonexistent better lol thanks for watching!

[@rezzer7918]

Try that at night. Bwah hahaha...

[@hmsjr0154]

The batteries are still in the locomotive. The red batteries contain pcb’s which is can cause cancer.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Thanks for the heads up and watching!

[@cplbruiser8267]

They look over engineered and complicated.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

They definitely do! We I was looking around in there I keep thinking wow there is a lot of stuff here i wouldn’t even have a clue how to get this going! Lol thanks for watching!

[@GoruoOkutae]

WalkingDeadみたい

[@exploringwithdan7876]

Loved that show! Well before it got a little to crazy for me. Lol thanks for watching!

[@WorksOnMyComputer]

What is it in the US that companies just dump their shit wherever and walk away.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

I do agree with you! But with this train I do know the owners, years ago it was sold to a museum but when time came to move her she was to heavy, so they put her back on the tracks and that’s where she been ever since. They don’t have the money to restore her but I’m trying to get enough people’s attention that maybe we can set up something where people can donate! 🤞 thanks for watching!

[@grasshopper5765]

What kind of train engine is that? It looks European not American made. There's plenty of copper in there, I'll be stripping all that copper out and to the scrap yard I'll go😁.

[@exploringwithdan7876]

The engines were Pennsylvania railroad GG1’s, they were electric and ran off a overhead catenary. They ran in the NE corridor at typically speeds of 100mph! There was two cabs in the engine one on either end so it didn’t have to turn around. They were built from 1934 to 1943, last one taken out of service in 1983. Thanks to the subscriber who gave me this information! lol thanks for watching!