Ukraine, Putin and Spies | Q+A | ABC News

[@markbrisec3972]

I love this argument by the Australian minister of Defense "We as a medium size country count on the international order based system for our security and prosperity and that's why this war matters to us".. Brilliant. Australians may seem uninterested for the war in Ukraine given that its happening 6000 miles away, but they should be worried and concerned for Ukraine's future, cause this is the blueprint for another dictatorship with apetite for changing borders. Of course I'm talking about China. And if Russia suceedes in this territorial grab than China will go through with their agenda to invade and annex Taiwan. And this would happen a lot closer to Australian borders with much more immediate consequences for their security.. So support for Ukraine today is the support for your freedom and peace tomorrow. If NATO enters the war in Ukraine or USA and Japan get involved on Taiwan's side if China invades, Australian boys will die on the front. I guarantee you that much.

[@achernar2724]

Can we just for a moment appreciate the impactful way that trans politicians communicated their struggles to the audience, it helped me understand trans people better bravo to you for bringing awareness to all of us

[@DianaRamirez-ms6sf]

International rules need to be followed as well by the U.S Australia is entering in unequal partnerships. The U.S circumvents human rights commitments and international treaties and no mainstream media takes it up for broader debate

[@SamPashmi]

Wrong again🤣😂🤣😂

[@SamPashmi]

In what reality are you living in?😂🤣😂🤣

[@russellmathews3599]

Absolutely so . Western Media has totally Brainwashed the people in the west No wonder there are hundreds of nations refusing to endorse NATO at the UN

[@sheavague7058]

If Australia doesn't support US they're do a regime change here. Best to just give them what they want.

[@nic7048]

yeah sure thats completely false. The US has been in many wars name one war where they tried to make the civ population become exstinct and destroyed anything that moves? you cant. They have the rules of engagement that countries like Iran, China, Russia, Belerus, North KOrea will never follow. If teh US could fight the way Russia does they would Bomb every single city to there is nothing left, They NEVER did that in Iraq or afganistan they used missles that minimized collateral damage and had to confirm there target before launch, what Russia does is just fire massive rockets and arillery into population centres so please dont put USA and RUSSIA on the same page for human rights... RUssia blocks a lot of the Internet the US doesnt thats a huge diff

[@clashwithczar2.03]

These guys are so full of themselves

[@russellmathews3599]

Total numpties. Just provokes Putin to hit the Nuclear Armageddon button should Putin feel the events are going against Russia

[@lauchlanguddy1004]

so much support for Ukraine, but no much vaunted compassionate visa for my now wife. WE applied with an agent and it ticked all the boxes and I offered 100% sponsorship and guaranteed her support. We had been in an online relationship for around 5 years, well documented and she ticked all the boxes. I could not meet her as I had a farm and a mother with dementia I was nursing. I gave up the farm and all my belongings and at 70 I have had to move to Ukraine and a war to marry her. We are both utterly upstanding citizens. People with zero funds to even get to Australia got visas and our perfect application was refused without even a single enquiry.

[@TheOriginalDeckBoy]

That's the ridiculous state of Australian bureaucracy right there... I feel for you brother..

[@nic7048]

Ive been in a similiar situation with you with immigration and is one of the reasons i dont like AUstralia anymore at all , even though i am one. Immigration doesnt care about sponsorship not even worth mentioning , why would they want poor people into the country with a box that says an Australian will pay the other persons bills? That statement gets nowhere i tried it, i think the main reason you get rejected is they are more harsh on older people trying to enter the country i think and know that your partner can offer nothing to the country other then you paying her bills forever, she will not pay taxes in Austraia so whats the point of letting her come is there thinking. Then again they let all these ISIS bride widow women come to Australia that dont tick ANY boxes all for the sake of ethnic diversity makes me want to leave Australia forever

[@supornsoubie5119]

May be just lip services. There are plenty of hyprocracy people who only paying lip service but doing nothing to protect justice .

[@simonjohnston9488]

That you're stapling your issue on top of Ukraine's tells me you deserve no sympathy. You're 70 years old - you're clearly lying about your "perfect" application.

[@simonjohnston9488]

@@supornsoubie5119 What does that even mean? Australia has paid a lot more than lip service to the plight Ukraine have found themselves in. Paying attention is more valuable than cheap contrarianism.

[@dankelly2147]

Excellent forum. Thank you!

[@lauchlanguddy1004]

Beware Political talk is cheap.

[@russellmathews3599]

Just wait until Putin hits the nuclear Armageddon button

[@neo-vj4zq]

There is no such thing as international law. Only law in your owned jurisdiction. Illegal war is a jurisdiction claim. Why are we in a war in Ukraine? Why would we be in a war in Taiwan? What are the Australian interest?

[@sheavague7058]

If you need to convince anyone how silly this war is just show them that US lady trying to describe how Afghanistan and Ukraine are different.

[@nic7048]

what has a poor muslim country run by the Taliban got to do with a pro western country in Europe?

[@sheavague7058]

@@nic7048 nationlism as religion replacing common sense and community sovereignty. But at a local family and community level neither country are much different then anywhere else in the world.

[@simonjohnston9488]

What about all the dead people?

[@seamusobrien2675]

Did Russia's Ambassador get an invite to this discussion? This is incredibly important ,to be and be seen to be balanced and expose all points of view. Show the strength of our democracy.

[@scruffopone3989]

Invaders don't get to spin lies about why they invaded.

[@Squashed8Ball]

They probably did and probably declined.

[@icysaracen3054]

I’m with Brazil. This will drag out like the Iran Iraq war of the 80s

[@SamPashmi]

SLAVA AUSTRALIA AND SLAVA UKRAINE

[@russellmathews3599]

SLAVES to America .

[@sheavague7058]

Both are just concepts......

[@SamPashmi]

@@sheavague7058 amazing concepts

[@sheavague7058]

@@SamPashmi meanwhile real life is happening.

[@SamPashmi]

@@sheavague7058 yes

[@lauchlanguddy1004]

Yes,,, Kiev is pretty damn safe, no idea why they are not here.

[@Narutojaden]

Maybe you should think about how many people you have living in a certain place and how much food that you make before you start like re-procreating as if your life is always going to be the same always Like to be in power you need to think of a way ahead, you know… Like the 48 laws of power states

[@amatvkhmer]

Putin and so hard

[@joshuapaul2022]

Yeah, Ukraine is winning on twitter.... . Real life is a completely different matter. Ukraine already lost most trained and motivated soldiers along with almost all hardware it had before the war plus hundreds of tanks and IFVs it got from Eastern Europe (to understand the scale of losses it had 1 990 tanks, 1 212 IFVs, 1 112 heavy artillery systems, 354 multiple rocket launchers). Its army is a shadow of its former self at the beginning of the war. Zelenskyy is catching and forced conscripting often at gunpoint mostly people with zero motivation to die for him, who never served in the army, often disabled. When such people are in the trenches, it means that the front can collapse at any moment. According to WaPo of all places Russians have 1:6 advantage in artillery (you can imagine their real advantage). 85% of Ukrainian soldiers are killed even without seeing an enemy . Biden administration is getting quite desperate. The only option left for Biden administration is to throw Polish army into a meat grinder. I just hope that Polish government isn't that crazy.

[@joshuapaul2022]

@@edricaldones9639 You are still in a state of denial.

[@russe19642]

@@edricaldones9639 haha Mr potato head is wrong . Russia lost 40 of it's absolute best of their best invading the airport new Kiev. They got absolutely massacred,400 taken out in the air and since then over 150,000 deaths of russians

[@newtonchambo]

This paragraph has literally been copy and pasted all over Ukraine war videos for the past two months... get real or at least get original with your propaganda

[@lauchlanguddy1004]

I am an Australian living in Kyiv, no one is being forcibly conscripted. NO One. Utterly untrue.

[@julianfoster3581]

@@lauchlanguddy1004 You need to get out more. Videos show press gangs in action on social media.

[@zoeparasiliti4382]

Wtf has the trans issue got to do with the war. I am supporter but it annoys me seeing that shit bought up in completely irrelevant situations.

[@lolitavlcek6373]

WELL PRES. UKRAINE. HE. DESERVED TO SUPPORT AND. HELPING. THEM. SO WHAT. WILL HAPPENED TO. ALL PEOPLE. THAT THEY NEED. THEM. SUPPORTS. EIGHTER HOW. IS. THAT. SPECIALLY. N OW. PEOPLE. THEY. HAVE. A. REALLY. HARD. LIFE. UNTIL. WHEN. THIS. UKCRAINE WILL BE. END SUPPORTING THEM QUESTION MARK