Atheist Failed morally | Br shamsi | speakers corner

[@abdinur6152]

I can't believe this atheist arguing that it could be right to sleep with 2 month old child Alhamdulilah for islam

[@PositivePessimist]

The atheist clearly said that it’s wrong to have sex with children cause of the suffering it causes. Meanwhile the Muslim thinks it’s fine to have sex with 9 year old children.

[@CGJUGO80]

All of us can believe it. They started with zinā (ie the "sexual revolution"), then homosexuality, now they are moving onto children..not long before they move onto dogs. wal' `iyadhū billāh

[@Ibrahim-vr8rm]

That isn't what happened. Shamsi refuses to defend his position and only attacks. He asks questions and wants you too give a specific answer. If you don't he complains and tries to drive you too that answer he wants

[@Ibrahim-vr8rm]

Shamsi started with an incorrect premise and the atheists didn't challenge it. He kept saying subjective means right or wrong. That isn't what it means. There are several different definitions of subjective and objective that depend on what field you are talking about. Both these terms are used in mathematics and English In the context of this conversation subjective just means a stance not affected by personal bias or opinion and objective means the opposite. The atheist just let him get away with saying subjective means something could be right or wrong. When really the atheist is saying he thinks "relations" with a 9 year old husband wrong in his opinion. But he admits that his opinion is subjective because his opinion is affected by his personal beliefs, upbringing and the society in which he had lived it. And his point is Shamsi is saying he knows "relations" with a child is right because his religion is the objective truth. The atheist made the point that Islam isn't the objective truth. Whether you disagree or not as a Muslim that is his stance. An example of why Islam is subjective is for instance why is it that most people keep the religion they are born with? If it is an easily verifiable objective truth why didn't the British all convert after Islam arrived? Because it isn't an objective truth like the fact humans need to eat, breathe and drink At least the atheist is admitting his opinions on things like the age of consent are subjective. And Muslims can say it is wrong because Islam says so. But a lot of Muslims would agree and even of those that would disagree, they wouldn't marry their 6 year old child off to be r**ed. Shamsi is at this park and in public mixing with women, talking to them. This isn't allowed in islam and if he died while doing it he would go too hell. Yet he does it while also believing Islam is objectively correct. His actions show he doesn't believe it objectively

[@OTHMAN173]

Eyo shamsi is really smart allahomabarik

[@Ibrahim-vr8rm]

Shamsi started with an incorrect premise and the atheists didn't challenge it. He kept saying subjective means right or wrong. That isn't what it means. There are several different definitions of subjective and objective that depend on what field you are talking about. Both these terms are used in mathematics and English In the context of this conversation subjective just means a stance not affected by personal bias or opinion and objective means the opposite. The atheist just let him get away with saying subjective means something could be right or wrong. When really the atheist is saying he thinks "relations" with a 9 year old husband wrong in his opinion. But he admits that his opinion is subjective because his opinion is affected by his personal beliefs, upbringing and the society in which he had lived it. And his point is Shamsi is saying he knows "relations" with a child is right because his religion is the objective truth. The atheist made the point that Islam isn't the objective truth. Whether you disagree or not as a Muslim that is his stance. An example of why Islam is subjective is for instance why is it that most people keep the religion they are born with? If it is an easily verifiable objective truth why didn't the British all convert after Islam arrived? Because it isn't an objective truth like the fact humans need to eat, breathe and drink At least the atheist is admitting his opinions on things like the age of consent are subjective. And Muslims can say it is wrong because Islam says so. But a lot of Muslims would agree and even of those that would disagree, they wouldn't marry their 6 year old child off to be r**ed. Shamsi is at this park and in public mixing with women, talking to them. This isn't allowed in islam and if he died while doing it he would go too hell. Yet he does it while also believing Islam is objectively correct. His actions show he doesn't believe it objectively

[@Ibrahim-vr8rm]

All shamsi does is attack. Complains if you try and reverse and question him. If you dont gvr him the exact answer he wants he insults you. And on top of all this he constantly just plays to crowd. Then after barraging you he walks off When someone only attacks durinh a debate and refuses to defend their position it means on some level they know they are wrong and afraid too lose the debate

[@thebesttruth4659]

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[@TinnyDee]

Today in Borno Nigeria the peaceful beautiful religion of peace sent a mother with her baby into a wedding. As a Sue I side bommer. Sounds unreal? I assure its not and its not the end of the story. Fact check it.

[@Abz-f6c]

What are you talking about? A mother with a child? What are you on about? No source provided etc By the way in case your ignorant self didn't know. There's certain criteria to be ticked off when you want to marry in Islam. If someone opposes that criteria. You can't blame the religion, but you blame the person. This fact is easy to acknowledge with anyone that has just two braincells. If I get into a car and then I crash the car. I don't blame the car. I blame myself. This is just commonsense which you seem to lack.

[@tylerthebeliever9080]

So basically the bald guy is saying that all morality is subjective but yours are not moral? 😂😂😂

[@Ibrahim-vr8rm]

No he is admitting morality is subjective and saying that includes Islam. Subjective doesn't mean right or wrong like shamsi repests in this video

[@Palestiniangaza]

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[@PositivePessimist]

Defending sex with 9 year old children, gross.

[@Louielakes12]

Learn before you speak

[@anythinggoes6992]

@@Louielakes12 ur prophet did right>? we know...ur prophet is a pedophile and a murderer !

[@zaidmahmood2290]

Imagine trying to say someone who is 9 at the time when the average life span was 36, had a different environment and growth speed should waste half of their life’s to reach this magical number 18 and survive all other diseases and wars just to marry is so logical right?

[@DavisRicJ]

@@Louielakes12🤢 67 Wedlock, Marriage (Nikaah) Narrated `Aisha: that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death). Sahih al-Bukhari 5134 & nikaah actually means to F. Disgusting cult

[@SadeqKaramah]

Do you support girls of the same age nowadays having sex and aborting? You are talking of a prophet's wife who was an Islamic teacher of her time and as a result, Islam is the most moral religion in the world.