Ableton Live 12 Tutorial - CC Control = Ned Rush

In this Ableton Live 12 Tutorial we look at ways to use the new CC Control device. Support this channel on Patreon to download this set plus many many more.
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Ned Rush is an infotaining universe of ideas for ways to make music, including areas of music production, music composition, sampling, synthesisers and sound design in software like Ableton, MaxMSP, Reason, and on hardware such as eurorack modular, Elektron boxes like the Octatrack and Analog Rytm, also visual art strategies using Jitter, focusing on music genres such electronica, IDM, glitch, jungle, breakcore, electro-acoustic, musique concrete, as well as discussing music via interviews and podcasts, and music performances via livestreams.

[@simongallifet325]

Wow, this is awesome! Thanks, Ned! My girlfriend and I eagerly anticipate each of your new videos as if they were episodes of our favorite tv show. It would be fantastic if you could demonstrate creating a polyphonic LFO using MPE channels. Have you ever considered exploring that?

[@NedRush]

I have never considered that as I have no idea what it is but now I must know.

[@cathalhex7948]

watching ned work is magical

[@patkelly8309]

You're a bloody genius when it comes to Ableton you.

[@nosleN105]

Man this was so fun to watch. You really know how to get the best out of this Daw. Impressive shit

[@ickebins6948]

I see CC, I like!

[@ned_interrobang]

found similar m4L devices with previous versions of ableton and always used them to deep dive parameters in my hardware synths

[@buriedintime]

nice one. pretty fun. lot's of possibilities for lush things

[@MatiasDLevy]

This is a step in the right direction, for me Ableton still lacks the possibility to design instruments fully agnostic of the hardware control behind them, for example, any VST like Serum or Phase Plant allows the user to map any control to CC, so you can then play them or write the Midi Ctlr automation on the clip. The closest thing for that in Ableton is the Ctrl+M mapping system, but that doesn't respond to any MIDI automation on the clip (because it is a remote mapping), and the parameter will still be modulated even if the track is not armed (which wouldn't make much sense if you imagine this for instruments). This would be useful If you wanted to design instruments to control with MIDI Hardware and simply save the instrument as a preset to recall on any session, without having to Ctrl+M and remap everything. The way I do this is with a custom M4L device that turns MIDI CC into a Map button (like the one on the LFO device), then if you group everything and save the preset you can drag it anywhere and it is still mapped the correct way.

[@MatiasDLevy]

For some reason only a few devices in Ableton (like the sampler you showed) have the possibility to receive MIDI CC messages, but only certain ones, like modulation wheel (that is MIDI CC 1). I think that should eventually become fully custom, the same way it happens on a lot of VSTs.

[@fabiovanzeller8868]

Interested in this M4l device, since I want to use save cc mappings to be recalled later on the Push 3 standalone. Do you care to share which one are you referring to?

[@MatiasDLevy]

@@fabiovanzeller8868 Forgot to answer, It's a custom device I made, I will try to upload it somewhere

[@marleenvos4126]

awesome, I love these exploratory videos; thank you for sharing! I also hope you didn't accidentally insult any visiting aliens.

[@huntingghosts]

also, these sounds are pure nightmare fuel

[@hielehielehiele]

Kraftwerk Feelings around the eight minute

[@abs3ntmind788]

I got the slide and Note PB to work with the "MPE Control" M4L device. modulate the "Min" control for slide and "X" and "Y" for the Note PB

[@Don_Kikkon]

Have you done a vid on the new Performer Max 4 Live thing? Finally a true successor to the Bento San - Mapulator! I know Isotonik had their Smart thing and it was only like 20 quid, but I already have a serious Eurorack DIY addiction and one has to draw the line somewhere (hah literally)? I used Max's Honey Mapper in the interim, but honestly these 'mapping curve customizers' have a whole separate (and not often discussed) usage as a 'Parameter Personalizer/Streamliner' or a 'Sweat-spot Sculptor/Finder'. Now Performer integrates and unlocks that functionality in external kit or the Euroverse! This might be the second such comment I've left on this feed but hey, I'm old, and it matters. Thanks for a wicked vid.

[@huntingghosts]

so, to double down on your 41000 eMails: how did you like Bitwig?

[@Romenet310]

This is completely off topic I guess, but how do you get more momentary buttons like the 4th one over. That one is perfect as it shows as on / off. This would allow me to send cc to my plugins to scroll the presets. do I have to create a custom max for live device?

[@HilbertSpacersson]

Hey mr Ned, nice video. Do you know a way to map groove intensity % to midi on a per track/per clip basis? I know there's a global one.

[@NedRush]

No

[@HilbertSpacersson]

@@NedRush alright, thanks for reply

[@ickebins6948]

So the end goal is to convert every sample into white noise? 😁

[@measures_of_distance]

Do you still do Midi CC to a hardware device the old way? (through the midi clip)

[@timperleysunset]

What’s on the other eight dials?

[@bobdemp8691]

Sounds like something from the exorcist

[@JIDEHHIGHELEMENTS]

how to send MIDI CC message from the futur to today !!!

[@Dilworthy]

complete coincidence you've just done this as I've been having a wee muck about with this just now trying to make life easier. Really surprised this is only just a thing. I've tons of MIDI equipment and it seems oldschool to have to find the manual and implementation chart every time. How good would it be if you could load templates in for all your various synths and MIDI kit, so you can see what parameter you are playing with rather than a number. My Squarp Pyramid has been able to do this from the beginning, how do we tell Ableton to make it a thing, or perhaps it is a thing? All in the name of workflow and minimum hurdles

[@patkelly8309]

Complete Coincidence!

[@Dilworthy]

@@patkelly8309 is that what CC stands for then? 😂

[@ninoblan]

My only question is: would you pass an anti-doping control before posting this shit ? he he... love it !

[@frankbarrett6664]

I was blind and now l cc...

[@djtomoy]

That’s quite a lot of emails 😬

[@EzraKnickelbine]

I think I'm missing something here--couldn't we achieve the exact same effect here with macro dials? I definitely see the utility for controlling external MIDI devices, controlling an internal ableton device with it seems redundant though.

[@NedRush]

Did you watch the video?

[@notnoaintno5134]

The point is that it can send MIDI messages that a simple macro can't, such as pitch bend and pressure

[@EzraKnickelbine]

@@NedRush i did! the whole way through! it was very entertaining! And I completely feel like I'm missing something, because it appears that instead of using the MIDI CCs as a middleman, you could map macros directly to the parameters that the CCs end up getting mapped to. I am fully expecting that I'm being dense though

[@NedRush]

In most cases yes, but some no. For example, it’s not possible to map via midi or via M4L the start position of a sample in Sampler. You can only assign it internally to one of the mods sources or a midi cc, so by using the cc device, you can have mappable access to parameters that you would otherwise not be able to.

[@EzraKnickelbine]

@@NedRush fantastic, I figured it was something like that but didn't have access to try it for myself at work :V

[@G.GordonMidi]

But have you tried Bitwig??? Lol

[@------YeahOK------]

Too many adverts! WTF

[@Lynskey]

please don't summon things