Abraham and Mary Lincoln: A House Divided - E02: We Are Elected

[@mr.sherlockholmes6130]

Thank you for sharing this great series . Abe Lincoln is as Genius and he loved our country. He saved the Union and our country.

[@dodijames6801]

A great president. May God reward him in heaven for all he had to endure in his life.

[@davidkharat1]

Mr. Lincoln was one of my hero’s. I read few books about him and civil was in 1965- 1967 during my high school time in Farsi and became very knowledgeable in his work. When my father came to u.s in 1973, I took him to Disney land, in Anaheim. There , we attended the “ mr Lincoln show. When Mr Lincoln appeared , My father stood up. I told him that his just a show and Mr. Lincoln was dead 100 years ago. My father replied , I know, i am standing here as a respect.

[@sookie4195]

It was wonderful of your father to show respect. Respect is all but lost it seems in this world.

[@grayskies6192]

And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand. Mark 3:25

[@kimberlybates6261]

Great Series. Poor Mary had so many mental health issues. President Lincoln like many men kept his feelings submerged beneath his exterior. I'm sure he loved Mary and endured a lot with her. He was her rock.

[@Onlinesully]

yeah I can see that too

[@opinionatedaf1563]

He's someone I would love to have known.

[@abcd0193]

I feel the same way.

[@docann3873]

My great-grandmother, Martha Todd Atkins, was a first cousin to Mary Todd Lincoln. The Todds were wealthy and their daughter, Mary, was spoiled and petulant. She was known to be "peculiar", and after Abraham Lincoln was elected to the Presidency, she demanded to be called "Madame President". She had suffered since childhood from delusions and severe migraine headaches, according to family records. After President Lincoln's assassination, her dementia became full-blown. The Todd family had a strain of mental illness ( a form of schizophrenia) that exists even today. Martha Todd Atkins passed it on to her children, and there were other Todd cousins whose descendants suffered from it as well. My grandmother, Estelle Atkins Burns, escaped it, but her brothers did not. Seven of my grandmother's nine children, including my mother, suffered from it. I had nine first cousins who were diagnosed with dementia/schizoid problems. I am the last member of my generation, and thankfully I do not yet have it (at age 82). I have several second cousins who have "difficult personalities". This might add another layer to the sad story of the Lincolns.

[@flazada]

Amazing anecdotes!! Thank you !

[@aliceransom3483]

Wow! Mary family owned slaves.. It’s karma- God don’t like ugly...

[@here_we_go_again2571]

@@aliceransom3483 R U aware that slavery/serfdom was the norm throughout the world until the British banned it (early 1800's) Mary's family owned slaves, not Mary. Throughout their marriage their houshold servants were Irish women ("right of the boat") FYI: Islam approves of slavery because Mohammad was a slaver ... Who owned both Black and White slaves and sex slaves from his conquests

[@marleneboring4458]

So very sad 😥

[@jonnydanger7181]

Lynda Vance karma involves everything. karma is very real.

[@deletalunstrum86]

With all the mess and destruction going on in the world right now, what a beautiful breath of fresh air this is. I thank you.

[@Laura_toggsgirls]

A house divided never stands

[@navalpanic12]

I remember watching this series about 21 years ago when it originally aired. I recorded it on VHS back then. I loved the series. The music has to be some of the greatest in a documentary as it is deeply moving. In this particular episode I love that in his debates with Douglas and forthcoming presidency he showed that America is a constant struggle. He knew that by the simple fact of the difference in people's skin people would be divided eternally. He understood that a perfect utopia does not, and will not exist. And that it is up to every generation to build upon the foundations of the previous in order to find ways to work together. Yes, there are differences between us. However, his belief in the theory of America is that all have the right find ways to work out those differences. All have right to reach where he or she wishes too and is willing to push him or herself.

[@sookie4195]

Things have certainly changed in 3 years.

[@landjgoff]

Poor Abe. He's still my favorite president.

[@williamwebster7325]

He still is the best president ever no has been close🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@lauren-db8zg]

i love lincoln so much ugh

[@monicacall7532]

Thanks for putting up this program. I remember watching it when was on PBS (American Experience?) about 20 years ago. Lincoln and Mary were such an odd couple because of their differences in how they were raised deep poverty vs. wealth. North vs. South. And yet they somehow still managed to love each other. I feel badly that mental illness was not discussed let alone be treated back in those days. Both Abraham and Mary could have been helped by therapy and meditation. Mary definitely had bipolar disorder. Their poor boys must’ve been afraid of settling her off for the tiniest reason. And to have a father who was so often depressed for long periods of time would’ve made them anxious and fearful that perhaps they couldn’t trust either parent to fill their most basic emotional needs.

[@CrissieFields]

Monica Call , I’m guessing Borderline Personality Disorder. The black and white idolization (and then accompanied fall) is a huge clue, as is the reckless spending, extreme concern about others opinions, etc. It is hell on earth to grow up that way, constantly “walking on eggshells” as if the sudden shift to rage and disgust is somehow dependent upon you as the child instead of the BPD mother.

[@lynnfenton376]

Don’t be certain it wasn’t just pernicious anemia with Mary, Marfan’s syndrome & MEN IIA syndrome with Abe + SHAKESPEARIAN ACTING. They faked the deaths of their children & grandchildren to save the world from its continued horrid destiny of these evil, Masonic, Satanic worshipping cannibals. Ultimate sacrificers. Great acting, fooled all of us until Q started dropping hints & clues which led us to research closely.

[@debraday9898]

I do not think she was bipolar! She had many deaths in her family. What do you expect. Three sons alone. Lets see how u deal with it. They also did not have therapy in those days. Gimme a break.

[@monicacall7532]

Debra, Mary was exhibiting the symptoms of bipolar disorder long before she lost her sons and her husband. Her family of origin were terrified of her rages or deep depressive episodes that would come out of nowhere. She could be fun and vivacious one day and then be unable to get herself out of bed the next day. In historical fiction Lincoln is often portrayed as being either wishy washy with regard to his upcoming marriage to Mary (the first time) or being a total cad who callously left her at the altar. The real story is very different. Lincoln’s closest friends and Mary’s own family testified that on the day before the wedding was supposed to take place when Lincoln had gone to talk through the wedding ceremony and reception with Mary and her sister who was hosting both, Mary’s quickly changeable behavior, going from pleasant to totally out of control in a matter of minutes, terrified Lincoln so much that he decided that he couldn’t go through with the ceremony. That he didn’t break off the engagement then or at some other time before the ceremony was cowardly in the extreme. He felt guilt over that for the rest of his life. If you have ever lived with a family member, spouse or roommate with bipolar disorder it becomes fairly easy to recognize it in other people and situations. I agree with you that all of those unfortunate deaths of her sons and witnessing the assassination of her husband definitely sent her over the edge into a full blown mental health crisis. However, she’d been dealing with bipolar disorder since her early teen years and this was a well known fact at the time. PS. There was a history of bipolar disorder in her family that went back several generations.

[@sookie4195]

@@lynnfenton376 you make it sound like there’s a lot of mental health issues in this world.

[@ritag4432]

A house divided cannot stand- words ring true even today, with our current political environment and civil unrest with BLM protests. Thanks for posting this terrific series

[@sookie4195]

It’s so much worse three years later.

[@lyncressler2608]

What a great great man !!

[@bevsman3284]

However, Lincoln was a GREAT president.

[@Jalanski28]

"was" still he is.

[@patriciabarkley735]

Poor Mary and Abe. It would be so difficult to lose a child. This is sad.

[@gordonmcmanus1238]

I have paintings of Abraham Lincoln and Mary Todd Lincoln in my living room he's one of my favorite President Abraham Lincoln

[@DeeCee1878]

Fantastic series. Thank you so much. I learned so much!

[@robertguest5215]

the kind of man the world needs now.........but unfortunately............his kind is no longer with us..Him, Martin and John.

[@AKAKDOG]

He had a rough loses in life that brought such sadness too his heart but brought him character and too his strength and craving cheers too bring him joy.

[@amandaorourke3036]

So wonderful to have the privilege of watching this....and to remind me of "the better angels of our nature " may still dwell in the hearts and minds of the citizens of what could still become the greatest nation on earth..... I do pray that this may come to pass...

[@alanaadams7440]

Mary lost Eddie and that was just a start of the deaths in her life. History has been too harsh on Mary Lincoln. Anyone who loses a child knows the horrible pain it causes and it cannot be escaped. Mary lost 3 sons and her husband was assassinated, a lot of people would not survive this. Her behavior was a symptom of her grief. An example of her coping mechanism. That is not a crime to have ineffective coping skills. Everyone copes in a different way. Who is to say what is right or wrong? Or how long a person should grieve.

[@CaptainSpalding72]

She loved her husband and children, that's all she want and was deprived of it.

[@robthetindog8218]

Still our greatest President. Never stopped learning, growing & evolving; I like to think that maybe, given time, he could have risen above 19th (and unfortunately 20th) century thinking on racial equality.

[@violethendrickson6080]

I loved this, thanks for sharing, it made a long drive much shorter!

[@tonyfleming4268]

Because he loved her, I forgive her any and all shortcomings. They both held up under much adversity and loss. she saw into him early on and was there for him.

[@Onlinesully]

sounds like they were very good for each other

[@cherihill2003]

This is excellent!

[@JonathanBresnihan77]

Thank you so much. This is legendary

[@debbebunch9973]

All men are CREATED equal... It's WHAT you DO with your life that makes a difference...

[@stardaddyo9]

From log cabin to the white house

[@allasegal128]

Great story

[@paulnubreu6887]

The DIMS of then are the same DIMS of now.

[@Pridegriffin]

Just dimmer .

[@paulnubreu6887]

@SC PRIVATEPILOT Very true.

[@LoveLife-oo9cz]

If so why the hell the southerners aka confederate flag holders idiots voted for Republicans? They are Dims right? such an idiot.

[@cherylbristol5144]

He suffered from mental health and depression, he was also very reflective. This was due to the loss of his mother at age 9. She was the light of the family. Mary, Mary, Mary, sad lost of little Eddie and her parents/ grandmother. She too suffered from some form of depression. What happened to the Republic party in 2016 ....it flipped on its head or they have lost site of its policies. The struggle for equality still remains. Where are Lincoln great, great grand children now, are they in politics.

[@eugeniasyro7315]

The Republican Party is very strong. Don't deny it.

[@melvincunningham5660]

Abraham Lincoln's direct line ended with the death of Robert Beckwith in 1985.

[@dgtwo3724]

@@melvincunningham5660 absolutely right, he was Lincoln's great-grandson, so there are no more lineal descendants, just distant relatives at this point. There are also other Presidents with no current direct lineal descendants.

[@jonnydanger7181]

How do you know what caused his depression?

[@karimason2114]

@@dgtwo3724 hopefully that will happen to the Trump line. Darwin at its' best.

[@granskare]

It was President Truman who ended segregation in our military, I saw it in the USAF in Turkey, in 1958 I saw sputnik 3, then I served there in 1957 and 1958, and in 1959, I served in Germany in 1959, I and others flew to Berlin Templehof and rode in the quaint elevators where I could hop in and off at the floor I wanted.

[@MrOlyphant6]

Why is the background music so loud you can't hear the narration??

[@Onlinesully]

very upsetting stuff. I'm some ways they moved past terrible tragedies as best they could.

[@sookie4195]

I wonder what President Lincoln would think of what is happening in the United States today? I also wonder what he would think of the Civil War memorials that have been removed including in Arlington National Cemetery?

[@stevenmullens511]

The people in the black lives matter movement need to watch this. 👮‍♂️

[@karentarkington236]

yeah they should b/c it's doubtful they read much less write

[@eyes2see333]

I grew up in a communist family and I was so happy when I found Jesus and I became a Republican because of this. Every member of the KKK was a Democrat

[@karimason2114]

@Ganesh Iyer great response! Zing!

[@lauren-db8zg]

lincoln would support blm most likely lol

[@moniquerobinson5206]

Wow! Very interesting! Thank you.

[@robertallen1878]

Amen.

[@taj8231]

What if Lincoln didn't necessarily believe the southeners regarding a race of people and they believed it so strongly as to not be dissuaded or change their minds. I mean, these are people who died to protect slavery. I just think maybe thinking about it from his perspective. When you r in the room with someone and they are speaking their beliefs, and you know they are so deeply entrenched in their beliefs. You say to yourself i might as well be talking to the wall..

[@2serveand2protect]

This is VERY well done! where did You find this, if I may?

[@StBindo]

It originally aired on PBS, and I actually stumbled across one of the episodes here on KZbin. After enjoying it I decided to buy the whole series, and then thought I might as well upload all the episodes here for any other history buffs like myself.

[@2serveand2protect]

@@StBindo Truly AMAZING! Big thanks for uploading!

[@raylin47]

@@StBindo And we're grateful you did!

[@Albukhshi]

"Education: defective" --He clearly wants a refund. :P

[@joannahampton3808]

That one man looks & sounds like Jeff Sessions, poor guy

[@granskare]

Lincoln's mother was Nancy Hanks of Malmesbury, Wiltshire England as shown by older photographs. Nancy is a natural commoner.

[@sookie4195]

You are incorrect.

[@granskare]

Mary was a woman who spent money beyond their means, spend spent.

[@billplunk8532]

what without him

[@granskare]

He should have asked the congress to declare war but he did now.

[@idigit9290]

Should have left the music totally out

[@jenniferferguson1517]

Music enhances everything

[@jolee3633]

Damn he had huge ears!

[@sookie4195]

Men’s ears in particular never quit growing as well as their nose.

[@captainamerica6525]

If Lincoln lived in the modern era I think he and Mary would have divorced. Something that was not socially acceptable in those days.

[@Orphen42O]

Because Robert Lincoln was born so soon after his parents' wedding, it is possible the Lincolns had a "shotgun" marriage.

[@karimason2114]

No. They wouldn't It still is looked down on Besides they loved each other and Abe understood her illness since he suffered fr depression He would not abandon her.

[@here_we_go_again2571]

Or, they may have gotten therapy and used medications that were not available until the late 1950's

[@giuseppenero110]

@@karimason2114: Their childhood experiences were so similar that they both needed each other, and they knew it

[@dittohead7044]

@@Orphen42O What a dumb answer. He was born 9 months after they married. Can you count? Didn’t you listen? Most women don’t even know they’re pregnant right away. No wonder Americans don’t know their history. Absolutely ludicrous

[@bevsman3284]

You'll see how FAR we have fallen if Biden becomes president.

[@karimason2114]

We already have fallen with Trump.

[@eyes2see333]

Trump wants to preserve the union and capitalism do you want communism?

[@karimason2114]

@@eyes2see333 you don't understand communism or socialism. That's just a word you repeat over and over again to scare people not to vote for Biden.

[@karimason2114]

If any one is wanting communism it would be Trump playing footsie with Putin. And all the cabinet members he's fired. You people are barking mad!

[@jonnydanger7181]

Biden is a malfunctioning clone.

[@loriboufford6342]

It seems to me that regardless of who was elected, the South would have left the Union. Anyone..?

[@dgtwo3724]

Sure looks that way. They simply wanted to be a separate nation.

[@mariocisneros911]

They were waiting for an excuse by United States government . Though they still wanted to secede and build a country in their ideas , the North didn't start the war. They started voting to secede before 1860 was up , and started the first military actions on Ft. Sumter in South Carolina.

[@lauren-db8zg]

maybe if one of the moderates was elected they would have but it breckinridge won i think they would have stayed tbh, he was super pro-southern

[@billhamlin6697]

Thomas Edison: All day and into the night, to Invent the light bulb by the sweat of my head, only to hear my wife tell me: Turn out the light and come to bed!

[@Onlinesully]

Witty

[@halo326]

Stole the idea from joseph Wilson Swann , uk.

[@terry4137]

I always thought President Lincoln had nice, blue eyes which is rarely noticed because of facial hair and his thin face. Mary was somewhat attractive but too large. F the lady that said he was ugly. He was not!

[@jamieyoho2310]

I want to see the drunk history story!

[@granskare]

Nancy Hanks of Malmesbury, Wilts UK was Lincoln's mother.

[@sookie4195]

I believe that she was born in Virginia.

[@angelahartley3212]

He did not marry the woman he truly loved!

[@dittohead7044]

Well she died, so....

[@sookie4195]

I’ve loved three different men.

[@giuseppenero110]

I daresay that slavery and capital punishment are two sides of the same coin. A civil war was fought, but did little to make the union of states into one country.

[@fahrikkigearl6417]

Holly hunter as mary ruined it

[@susananderson4428]

But what happened150 years ago, the attitudes 150 years ago dies it mean whites feel the same now just as blacks have matured since the 1850’s so gave most whites

[@jonnydanger7181]

Was that English?

[@susananderson4428]

Auto correct at her finest . Can’t you read the post anyway? Might be fault wiring in your brain sorry

[@jonnydanger7181]

Susan Anderson no it make no sense.

[@granskare]

She is like today's Trump, constantly wanted people to love him, bah.

[@lornaparsons9767]

granskate PRESIDENT TRUMP SEEMS TO BE VERY LOVED BY HIS CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN ,MELANIA RECEMTLY HONOURED HIM DEARLY IM A PERSONAL DOCO AND ALL WHO CALL HIM FRIEND DEEPLY RESPECT HIM KNOW THIS GOD LOVES HIM AS HE LOVES US ALL MANY AROUND THE.WORLD ALSO HOLD THIS MSN UP IN RESPECT.AND HONOR ,I WONDER HOW MANY OF HIS CRITICS COULD STAND TALL AS HE DOES WITH ALL THE CRITICISM DIRECTED AT THEM AS 5HIS MAN HAS AND CONTIUES TO DO ,MAY THE LORD BLESS HIM MAY HIS FACE SHINE UPON HIM AND GIVE HIM PEACE AMEN DONALD J.TRUMP 2020 KAG

[@morehyeshiahhistorylessons94]

They needed a divorce

[@diankreczmer6595]

Abraham Lincoln shreikers lol

[@raymondcaylor6292]

11:40 Plain at best. I wonder what the lady talking sees when looking in a mirror.

[@MyTaylorb]

There you go...Lincoln was a Lawyer and a Politician. Everyone worships him as a great President. To me, he was one of the worst. He is the only President to raise a standing Army against his own people, other than Bill Clinton and Janet Reno at Ruby Ridge and Waco. He was too stupid to negotiate with the South. We kicked the sh*t out of the North. We had very little resources, but stomped their ass'. Lincoln paid for His crimes with the blood of 600,000 American's on His hands. Lincoln does not deserve a memorial.

[@mariocisneros911]

He married the wrong woman. Probably infatuated with her her looks and youth and dissuaded himself of their great differences

[@Onlinesully]

can understand why you say that. i dont think so myself, they both had their internal struggles.

[@karimason2114]

She made him president.

[@Onlinesully]

kari mason yes she played a huge part

[@planetzorn]

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[@gsvetleen]

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