Absurd Christian Claim! Jews Approved Jesus' Problematic Genealogy? -Rabbi Tovia Singer

[@robertzabick1030]

I have been a lifelong Christian. Now I find myself torn between Judaism and Christianity. I can only pray God will lead me to the truth.

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

If you are a Gentile, you need to keep the 7 Noahide laws.

[@bookmouse2719]

Keep learning and use your brain.

[@ecomandurban7183]

although I am a Jew my Jewish mother took me to the local Baptist church that had managed to convert her to Christianity because she came from a secular Jewish family. I never fully accepted their teachings because their very own Bible disproved what was believed by the Christians. Eventually in my late fifties I made a very in depth study and found that Christianity was not based ed on fact. Over the last 15 years I have slowly found my way to Judaism helped by the Chabad movement. I am now finally at peace knowing I had found both my spiritual roots and the truth. I would advise you if you are a Jew to follow Judaism if not find a Noahide congregation and join them. I would not recommend converting to Judaism if you are not Jewish but keeping close ties to a Jewish community may be possible.

[@robertzabick1030]

Thanks so much.@@JRTIGER07

[@SteveSmith-os5bs]

⁠@ViralChristianityif there was such a thing as without the shadow of doubt then everyone would believe the same thing. But, there is tons of doubt and millions of people believe in different religions or no religion at all. You made a statement about your feelings.

[@ecomandurban7183]

Shabbat Shalom, Gut Shabbos to you Rabbi and all who watch your videos. Please pray for Israel for a good outcome at the Hague. Am Yisrael chai.

[@susanlett9632]

Another wonderful and informative video from rabbi Singer. ❤

[@alenasvarkulys2810]

That is awfull reasoning by Tovia and trying to place himself as an expert even tough he has no clue that his lies offebnds God and does not match any biblical truth from old or new testament.All prophets of God even Moses by todays standarts was ileterate and most of them were sheperds and field workers.

[@janishart5128]

@@alenasvarkulys2810: FYI, Rabbi Singer has been studying the original Hebrew scriptures since childhood, and the Christian "NT" for the past 40+ YEARS, so he knows that text FAR BETTER than YOU or your blind guide Pastors, Ministers or Priests. God specifically told us in Deut. 17:8-11 to LISTEN to what the Rabbis teach, since they (and ONLY THEY!!) have been studying the original, ETERNAL (i.e. STILL in effect and binding TODAY - a LIVING document!) Hebrew scriptures, all the way back to Mt. Sinai. Something "Christianity" REFUSED to do, leaving them in profound darkness as to what God ACTUALLY said to us there! You're ignoring one very important fact - the "NT" is NOT scripture that was given to man by God, since NO FURTHER SCRIPTURES were given to mankind by God AFTER Mt. Sinai, therefore anything that comes out of it is false, and irrelevant, including the "Jesus" character, who was already DEAD for at least 20 years by the time the NT was written! Yet they quote him word-for-word - IMPOSSIBLE!! Just try to remember what YOU said yesterday, word-for-word - again, IMPOSSIBLE!! This should be a HUGE red flag to you, as well as to ALL of Christianity! The other thing that should be a HUGE red flag to you and ALL of Christianity, is the fact that when God gave us His Torah on Mt. Sinai, he said it is ETERNAL, and is NOT to be added to or taken away from, yet, that is exactly what Christianity has so arrogantly and blasphemously done! NOBODY has the authority to tell ANYONE that we are "no longer under the Law" - that's GOD'S ETERNAL LAW that the anti-God, hate-filled, blasphemous, arrogant Paul was talking about! You have to ask yourself WHY you would no longer WANT to be "under the Law" of the Creator of the universe! WHO knows better how we should live than HE does?!! The other thing you have to ask yourself is WHY would God give us His Torah, tell us it is ETERNAL, and then, a couple of thousand years later, tell us we no longer have to follow it, but instead follow a MAN-MADE, blasphemous, hate-filled work of fiction that He NEVER gave us!! Do you REALLY believe that God, Creator of the universe, DOESN'T know the meaning of the word "ETERNAL"??!! I suggest you look up the meaning of "ETERNAL" for yourself, since Christians don't seem to realize what that actually means! God's Torah is STILL in force, to this day, and will be to eternity!! You need to think VERY seriously about what I've just said to you, and do some honest research on the origins of Christianity for YOURSELF. You will find, as I did, that it did NOT come from God. If you are TRULY interested in knowing what God ACTUALLY said to us, you won't find it in Christianity - they have never studied the original Hebrew, so they are therefore working in the dark, and have no idea what the Hebrew scriptures ACTUALLY mean and therefore what God ACTUALLY said to us at Sinai. Christianity is biggest HOAX ever perpetrated on mankind and it seeks to destroy God's original words to us - that's why I left it about 20+ yrs. ago, after being a born-again, baptized, Evangelical Baptist Christian and then a 'Messianic' Christian, for 40+ years. PLEASE buy a Hebrew Bible (says "Stone Edition TANACH" on the cover), and Rabbi Singer's books, as well as Rabbi Stuart Federow's book "Judaism and Christianity: A Contrast", to help you understand why Christianity absolutely did NOT come from God.​

[@janishart5128]

@@alenasvarkulys2810: NO FURTHER SCRIPTURES were given to mankind by God AFTER Mr. Sinai (God told us that His words are ETERNAL, i.e. STILL in effect and binding TODAY - a LIVING document!), therefore "Christianity" absolutely DID NOT come from God. PLEASE buy a Hebrew Bible (says "Stone Edition TANACH" on the cover), and Rabbi Singer's books, as well as Rabbi Stuart Federow's book "Judaism and Christianity: A Contrast", to help you understand why Christianity absolutely DID NOT come from God.

[@DavidUrbina-gg9zx]

I really enjoy the good work you are doing by educating in such a giving manner ! you remind me of my junior high school teacher MR Rosenberg, who was my mathematics teacher who dedicated so much time to teach me, getting back to the topic many thanks for sharing this video 📖 big like on the video 🤙

[@marthell6159]

From a Hindu, I love Rabbi Singer’s explanations!

[@LoreneRaeWard]

I ❤ this! Thank you for all you do!

[@GilbertGreich]

Todah Rabba!

[@JosephMage]

Baruch HaShem 🙏🏽✡️

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

The belief in a divine trinity is an idolatrous concept, since it is a belief that God (or according to some, a second separate divinity) has characteristic features, and the characteristics of a body.

[@samvoron1727]

1. God forbids idol worship. 2. Praying to saints or Mary or Jesus who are creations instead of praying only to God who is the creator is idol worship in Judaism and Islam and in some Christian sects. 3. Jews and Muslims love Christians by explaining that the messiah in Tanakh is a human biological descendant of the messiah king David through the messiah king Solomon meaning the messiah is not God and not a Trinity with God. 4. Jews and Muslims love Christians by explaining that the messiah in the Quran is a human who did not descend from the messiah king David because a person who has no biological father inherits no tribe in Judaism. 5. Jews and Muslims love Christians by explaining that in Gospel of John 20:17 Jesus said he did not die on the cross meaning no one sacrificed him and he explains that he is a human and he is not God. 6. Jews and Muslims love Christians by explaining that not all Christians believe that Jesus is God or that Jesus is a Trinity with God.

[@supershrpy]

So in Genesis - God said, "let us..." who was the "us" he was referring to?

[@eicha41624]

Did jesus poop? ​@@mtalk828

[@anikomattison7568]

@@mtalk828yes it is. God is single and nothing is like Him. There is no second and third God

[@samvoron1727]

A messiah is not God or part of God. 2 Samuel 7:14 I (God) will be to him for a father, and he shall be to Me (God) for a son; if he commit wrongdoing, I (God) will punish him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men;

[@theunclejesusshow8260]

Exactly, they weren't walking around with books of Bibles tucked under there arms. They were working, surviving, living their lives

[@habeebdauda6606]

Another point 👇 Some apologists assert that Luke traces the lineage through Mary. That this is untrue is obvious from the context since Luke and Matthew both clearly state that Joseph was Jesus' father.) MT 1:16 Jacob was Joseph's father. LK 3:23 Heli was Joseph's father.

[@garanceadrosehn9691]

The full verse in Matthew is: _"And Jacob begot Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus who is called Christ"._ So Jacob is definitely the father of Joseph (according to this narrative). However, does "of whom was born" refer to Joseph, or to Mary? The claim is that Joseph was not the biological father (so there is no "begot" in the above), but clearly a child is born by the mother of that child. ... Some people say this indicates that Matthew is giving the genealogy of Mary and Luke is giving the genealogy of Joseph. Others point out that the genealogies work much better (for Jesus) if Matthew is giving the genealogy of *Joseph,* and that the phrase "of whom was born" is merely adding the comment "We're talking about the Joseph who eventually married Mary".

[@garanceadrosehn9691]

@@mtalk828 - This is extremely unlikely, given that the genealogies are *very* different. It is not like they match up for many generations, and then they disagree on the name of this one guy. As Rabbi Singer correctly notes, they even disagree as to which son of David is in the genealogy.

[@bookmouse2719]

@@mtalk828 Obviously they aren't.

[@habeebdauda6606]

@@mtalk828 it can't be. Matthew's list consists of 26 names. While that of Luke is 41 and besides this, it's also contradictory.

[@bulldogface8259]

YOU RABBI GET MY UTMOST RESPECT FOR BEING A DEFENDER OF MONOTHEISM ASALAAM WA LAKUM .

[@Tonibolognaaintnophony]

I had my DNA done 5 yrs ago - 50% Ashkenazi 50% Signer's of the Declaration of Independence. I didn't know Jewish was a nationality. I also have the BRCA1 cancer gene due to the Askensazi DNA, so it saved my life finding out.

[@shirleyannelindberg1692]

Toni, your DNA is not going to “Save” you 🙄 That’s a xtrian concept 🤪

[@Tonibolognaaintnophony]

@@shirleyannelindberg1692 Finding out that I have the BRCA1 gene, knowing my father's family died of cancer, is how I was saved. I had a double mastectomy & hysterectomy within a, paid in full by my insurance carrier. My son's as well have a heads up. I suggest every person to have a DNA test, at least for health reasons. Otherwise, Dr's still only test for cancer if it comes from the mother's side. Mine is from my Jewish father.

[@shirleyannelindberg1692]

@@Tonibolognaaintnophony Good to know you are well, however, it’s all in HaShem’s Hands - NOT The DOCTORS 🙄🙄

[@Tonibolognaaintnophony]

@Raizel613 Wow, I'll check it out! Thank you so much for that information 🙂

[@Tonibolognaaintnophony]

@ViralChristianity What pride in my heart?

[@nomad100hd]

The hoops people jump through to discount when I point out that Jesus's disciples were illiterate defy all logic.

[@Zachariah1437]

14 generations in 500 years isn't impossible if you're constantly being attacked by gentiles

[@MidlifeCrisis82]

I appreciate the knowledge you impart about the hebrew bible and the errors in the Christian one. From what I've reviewed on the culture of adoption...it was very common for childless Roman Emperors to adopt an heir. I think this is what the gospel writers are claiming by Joseph adopting Jesus.

[@r.m.5003]

"...But since they could see the man who had been healed standing there with them, there was NOTHING they could say." Acts 4.14.

[@benahmad5867]

How can Paul say this !? He saw nothing except the torture he was giving to the followers of Jesus ! 😀

[@beslanintruder2077]

The theme isn't that Jesus healed or the disciples couldn't convey healing powers. The point of the video is that the genealogies don't add up or match. Also much of what Christians are saying using the Hebrew scriptures is contrived and skewed. Just because The Christians had healing power doesn't mean that what is said in the New Testament is correct.

[@beagleman123456789]

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[@suplol4893]

Did he get a new camera I need that camera good quality Name

[@ToviaSinger1]

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[@zafirjoe18]

The author of Mathew hints to what the Jews at the time thought of his lineage. They must’ve thought him to be a bastard . His mother was betrothed to Joseph but before consummating their marriage she had an affair. Now Mathew tries selling the immaculate conception to the Jews. But hints to those that don’t want to buy into this, that messiahs lineage comes from questionable unions. For this reason he highlights all the problematic mothers in the Davidic line. Let’s see; Mathew 1; Verse 3. “Judah the father of Perez and Zerah, whose mother was Tamar “= see Genesis 38 Verse 5. “Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab “-Rahab the harlot see Joshua 2 , ( this one completely made up to add to the problematic mothers) Verse 5. “Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth” =Ruth the Moabite see book of Ruth. Considering the prohibition of intermarriage between Israel and Moab (Deuteronomy 23:4) Mathew considers her a problematic mother . Verse 6; “David was the father of Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah’s wife” = Bathsheba . Mathew doesn’t just state her name ,rather highlights why she’s a problematic mother. See 2 Samuel 11. So Mathew is trying to sell Jesus to the doubtful thomas’s . He says to them even if you don’t believe she was banged up by g d (heaven forbid)but messiah must come from a questionable union. In the same vein Mathew wants us to believe that the Nazarene was born in Beth Lechem which is in Judea ( even misleading the audience with a verse in Micha)although he was a Galilean. For there was a difference in custom between the Judeans and the Galileans regarding a betrothed. In Judea it was the custom for the couple to seclude themselves even before the consummation of the marriage, and he cannot make a claim about his bride’s virginity after marriage. Not so in the Galilee where the custom was to not let bride and groom to seclude. (See Ketubot 9b). Therefore another excuse for Mary for being with child before consummation of their marriage. So Mathew wants you to believe in the Nazarene because 1) immaculate conception, don’t buy it ? 2) they were in Judea at the time and maybe Joseph in his passion for her didn’t wait for the wedding date. , if you don’t buy it 3)it’s okay she’s just another problematic mother. Just atrocious what Mathew does , a mockery of the Torah, and questioning the intelligence of ordinary Jews who read right through him.

[@zafirjoe18]

@@jeffreyerwin3665I know about Pantera the Roman officer according to tradition the others

[@goldengun9970]

​@@jeffreyerwin3665hehe so you want to use the talmud and not the NT. If you are a christian good luck with that lol

[@zafirjoe18]

@@goldengun9970 I’m not using the Talmud!. To fully Comprehend a book written in 1st century Judea meant for Judeans , one must also understand their culture. The author assumes the reader is familiar with tanakh and Jewish customs.

[@bassi3315]

❤

[@goldengun9970]

@zafirjoe18 if you use the nt jesus doesnt have paternal lineage to david. If you use tye Talmud and desperately say the roman soldier with tye roman name might of been a jew and might of had paternal lineage to david instead of the Nt then you have endless other issues accepting the Talmud and denying the gospels. It doesn't save anything for christians even if he was a jew with a line to David

[@rockinbones8508]

There obviously were some Jews that believed in Jesus. If not, who was Paul going after? All the first early Christians were Jews

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

A Jew who serves false gods is considered like a gentile in all regards.

[@maureenelsden1927]

Genealogies of Jesus in Matthew & Luke are not a problem. The human race's problem is far greater than that!!!!!

[@janishart5128]

NOWHERE in the original Hebrew scriptures given to Moses at Mt. Sinai did God ever mention the "Jesus" character to us. NO FURTHER SCRIPTURES were given to mankind by God AFTER Mr. Sinai (God told us that His words are ETERNAL, i.e. STILL in effect and binding TODAY - a LIVING document!), therefore "Christianity" absolutely DID NOT come from God. PLEASE buy a Hebrew Bible (says "Stone Edition TANACH" on the cover), and Rabbi Singer's books, as well as Rabbi Stuart Federow's book "Judaism and Christianity: A Contrast", to help you understand why Christianity absolutely DID NOT come from God.

[@laccess911]

They are a big problem when you claim God has a human geneology!

[@CarolAnnD1]

Jesus was a rock star (according to the musical), but no one has ever discussed what type of rock he was made up of. Igneous, metamorphic, sedimentary? It could be a very deep question, like basalt.

[@spankflaps1365]

Punk rock? - Anarchy in the K - God save the King

[@tshou520]

@@spankflaps1365 Add to that Liar, Problems, and Pretty Vacant.

[@polynesia8733]

1:00 Jews did question Jesus's genealogy and yes the Christian Bible was happy to say it.

[@sarasohaib6765]

peter her own ear bleeds when she is under the bicycle by accident

[@SuperSunshinesue]

❤

[@mortinbünbre2024]

it also says in the christian bible not to worry yourselves about genealogy. thankyou for this discussion Rabbi

[@paulawallace8784]

The Christian Bible is NOT Scripture. Christianity is the Last Beast.

[@russrussel3947]

Paul ordered "not to argue about Genealogies" in one of his letters, because Ezra and Chronicles has the Honest Version.

[@russrussel3947]

@@JRTIGER07 J'Zeus isn't in ANY Genealogy, because his "Father" was the "Holy Spirit". He had NO PHYSICAL FATHER, so had no King Line to claim, which is why INRI was Sarcastic.🙅

[@russrussel3947]

@@JRTIGER07 Other way around. None of my logic was refuted. No simple paragraph was written in response to my Christian Theology questions, because Christian Theology is as varied and Contradictory as Jihad Jannahs!🤡

[@russrussel3947]

@@JRTIGER07 (The Unholy Apocrypha even says that we must all "bear our own iniquities", which doesn't match up with Trinitarianism). The reason that Catholics don't read their "Bibles" is because the books are CONTRADICTORY. That's why they rely on Church Fathers, Church "History" and Church Tradition. No Catholic that I PERSONALLY know has a clue about Christian Theology, because even THEY don't follow it.

[@JamesCleary202]

Rabbi, could you please tell me what your interpretation is of the word “seraphim”? Are these angels, or snakes? There seems to be some disagreement about this. Thanks.

[@sbh1311]

It is vitally important to continue to chip away at this silly story …keep up the good the great work

[@notawinemom8540]

I'm really tempted to show this vile hatred to every Christian I know because maybe we need to leave you guys to deal with your enemies alone.

[@booksquid856]

​@immanuel.isaiah714 People of every religion get persecuted.

[@booksquid856]

​@@notawinemom8540 The Christian religion was created by Rome. It was designed to be the enemy of Israel and any other community which would stand up to her globalist tyranny.

[@paulawallace8784]

​@@notawinemom8540Christianity is who BURNED JEWS ALIVE over and over again, who INFLICTED 1700+ years of PERSECUTION, OPPRESSION and SLAUGHTER upon Gd's Firstborn Son Israel the Jews, becoming their longest enduring and most DEADLIEST of all their Oppressors, who to a T alone fits the description of the LAST BEAST, Enemy of Gd and His Chosen!

[@paulawallace8784]

​@@notawinemom8540Without the FALSE TEACHINGS of Jesus/Cult of Christianity there would be no False Teacher Mohammed, no Hamas, no Nazis, no Isis, no Killer Crusaders, no Hezbollah, no Inquisition, no PLO, no Pogroms, etc.,.

[@garanceadrosehn9691]

I'll note that the genealogies that we have in written form were attributed to Matthew and Luke. Luke was a physician, so it's pretty reasonable to assume he knew how to read and write. Matthew is assumed to be the tax collector guy, and if so then he'd also able to read and write. The other thing is that the two genealogies are very obviously different. Let's say that maybe all twelve disciples were illiterate. But in two thousand years of Christianity, there were certainly *some* Christians who were very literate and could read well enough to notice the difference between the two genealogies. One might want to check to see what those Christians thought about the differences. I expect that one could build reasonable arguments against whatever reasons those christians came up with, but wouldn't it be worthwhile to at least consider what reasons have been offered? I think that would be a more interesting discussion than focusing on how John and Peter were not literate (at least not in the year that Jesus died), given that no one has even claimed that either genealogy was written by either John or Peter. And yeah, I don't get the "14 generations, 14 generations, 14 generations" either. And what's even more sad (about *me,* personally) is that I know I've heard people offer explanations about that, and yet I don't remember what the explanations were.

[@booksquid856]

​@@enriquemoure7212 In summary...by redefining all of these images, terms, and events outside the context of its usage and purpose within the Jewish nation, you can then convince yourself that all these passages impart legitimacy to a "Jesus." They don't, however. It's like watching a person do contortions with the writings of Douglas and the evening news in America to prove that MLK was the one true President, known as "commander in chief," who was rejected by Americans, and remains a sacrifice for all the world to achieve Nirvana so that we do not have to offer fireworks on fourth of July. That is only a thumbnail of just how absurd the Christian claims are based on how you interpret the passages you mention.

[@HilaryMurray-cp6ys]

He came to His own and His own recieved Him not.

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

Jews are commanded not to listen to a false prophet in Deuteronomy 13:4.

[@HilaryMurray-cp6ys]

Even so, Jesus is still the way. Jews and Muslims are still waiting for the Messiah to come but He already came. Some people didn't believe in Him because He was ordinary.

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

@@HilaryMurray-cp6ys No temple, no Messiah.

[@janishart5128]

@@HilaryMurray-cp6ys: God specifically told us in Deut. 17:8-11 to LISTEN to what the Rabbis teach, since they (and ONLY THEY!!) have been studying the original, ETERNAL (i.e. STILL in effect and binding TODAY - a LIVING document!) Hebrew scriptures, all the way back to Mt. Sinai. Something "Christianity" REFUSED to do, leaving them in profound darkness as to what God ACTUALLY said to us there! You're ignoring one very important fact - the "NT" is NOT scripture that was given to man by God, since NO FURTHER SCRIPTURES were given to mankind by God AFTER Mt. Sinai, therefore anything that comes out of it is false, and irrelevant, including the "Jesus" character, who was already DEAD for at least 20 years by the time the NT was written! Yet they quote him word-for-word - IMPOSSIBLE!! Just try to remember what YOU said yesterday, word-for-word - again, IMPOSSIBLE!! This should be a HUGE red flag to you, as well as to ALL of Christianity! The other thing that should be a HUGE red flag to you and ALL of Christianity, is the fact that when God gave us His Torah on Mt. Sinai, he said it is ETERNAL, and is NOT to be added to or taken away from, yet, that is exactly what Christianity has so arrogantly and blasphemously done! NOBODY has the authority to tell ANYONE that we are "no longer under the Law" - that's GOD'S ETERNAL LAW that the anti-God, hate-filled, blasphemous, arrogant Paul was talking about! You have to ask yourself WHY you would no longer WANT to be "under the Law" of the Creator of the universe! WHO knows better how we should live than HE does?!! The other thing you have to ask yourself is WHY would God give us His Torah, tell us it is ETERNAL, and then, a couple of thousand years later, tell us we no longer have to follow it, but instead follow a MAN-MADE, blasphemous, hate-filled work of fiction that He NEVER gave us!! Do you REALLY believe that God, Creator of the universe, DOESN'T know the meaning of the word "ETERNAL"??!! I suggest you look up the meaning of "ETERNAL" for yourself, since Christians don't seem to realize what that actually means! God's Torah is STILL in force, to this day, and will be to eternity!! You need to think VERY seriously about what I've just said to you, and do some honest research on the origins of Christianity for YOURSELF. You will find, as I did, that it did NOT come from God. If you are TRULY interested in knowing what God ACTUALLY said to us, you won't find it in Christianity - they have never studied the original Hebrew, so they are therefore working in the dark, and have no idea what the Hebrew scriptures ACTUALLY mean and therefore what God ACTUALLY said to us at Sinai. Christianity is biggest HOAX ever perpetrated on mankind and it seeks to destroy God's original words to us - that's why I left it about 20+ yrs. ago, after being a born-again, baptized, Evangelical Baptist Christian and then a 'Messianic' Christian, for 40+ years. PLEASE buy a Hebrew Bible (says "Stone Edition TANACH" on the cover), and Rabbi Singer's books, as well as Rabbi Stuart Federow's book "Judaism and Christianity: A Contrast", to help you understand why Christianity absolutely did NOT come from God.​

[@orionxtc1119]

Jesus Christ is God and Man... he is the ONLY Way, Truth and the Life... Lord and Saviour!✝

[@paulawallace8784]

Your carnal idol of flesh made in the Image of Man Jesus is just like Krishna, Heathen Man worshiping his own fragile, pathetic Ego, ABOMINATIONS to the CREATOR, WHO Commanded that HE alone is to be worshiped!

[@paulawallace8784]

You SPEAK AGAINST the MOST HIGH, a Hallmark of the LAST BEAST, Enemy of Gd and His Chosen Priestly People, His High Holy Ones, His Firstborn Son, Israel the Jews.

[@abc_6]

Have you been taking any kind of medications Or?

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

God is not a man.

[@booksquid856]

Actually the Galilean area was in fact literate. It was more literate than Judean elites wanted. Thus compulsory education was introduced as a means to produce localities who had the "right" type of learning. However, none of this matters given the other points that you mention. We know plenty of people today who are ignorant and willing to swallow lies. Should we all agree to treat confused views as legitimate simply because those views are held by those who happen to be a part of our own culture and time?? Even now it is absurd and annoying that relatives of mine tell me they know of Jews who believe in Jesus--as if this somehow proves anything!! If I turn their logic on them and apply it to their own culture, somehow that just isn't the same thing in their mind. Always the Jewish world remains as some off-base fantasy in their imagination...and anything of reality offends them.

[@sajsultan1839]

What about the Jewish messiah how long will he live on the earth on his coming to Jew's? Will he live forever until up too judgement day . And how long would that be ?

[@tommason5689]

He has come already but Jews rejected him and even murdered him. That is why God punished them in the hands of Romans in 70 CE by sacking them and scattering them all over the world for the last 2000 years. God has abandoned them for good and you will never see another messiah coming for them for eternity. The messiah has come exactly as prophesied in Isaiah 7:14: "the virgin will conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." And he has been sacrificed for our sins exactly as prophesied: "he was pierced for our transgressions. He was crushed for our iniquities. The punishment that brought our peace was on him; and by his wounds we are healed." Isaiah 53:5 And was buried among the wicked exactly as prophesied: "They made his grave with the wicked, and with a rich man in his death, although he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth." Isaiah 53:9 This is why no one will respond to you because none of them knows the answers to your questions. If anyone does, it will be from his own delusional imagination.

[@janishart5128]

​@@tommason5689: NO FURTHER SCRIPTURES were given to mankind by God AFTER Mr. Sinai (God told us that His words are ETERNAL, i.e. STILL in effect and binding TODAY - a LIVING document!), therefore "Christianity" absolutely DID NOT come from God. PLEASE buy a Hebrew Bible (says "Stone Edition TANACH" on the cover), and Rabbi Singer's books, as well as Rabbi Stuart Federow's book "Judaism and Christianity: A Contrast", to help you understand why Christianity absolutely DID NOT come from God.

[@tommason5689]

@@janishart5128 When you said: "NO FURTHER SCRIPTURES were given to mankind by God AFTER Mr. Sinai", you are denying your own tanak and showing your sheer ignorance. You are basically saying Torah is only scripture given by God, which even your leader Tovia and most of other Judaists would not agree. You are more in line with Muslims than Judaists. Read the book of Isaiah and Jeremiah, which are full of God's prophesies about the destruction of Israelites in the hands of Assyrians and Babylonians. Then you will know how little you know about your own tanak, the Hebrew bible.

[@laccess911]

@@janishart5128 Capitalizing letters is not going to add credibility to your words. Jesus was given a scripture, and Muhammed was given a scripture too. Besides, the torah of Moses is not the book you have today. Moses spoke Egyptian not hebrew.

[@torahobservant8708]

Acts 4:13 Does NOT say they were illiterate and unlearned, or unlettered. It says those whom they spoke to "perceived" them to be illiterate and unlearned. They didn't want to listen to them because of it. We need to read scripture in its context.

[@MaggieOM-ul7xi]

good try. but not really because the nt is NOT Scripture!!

[@torahobservant8708]

@@MaggieOM-ul7xi According to you. However, you are not Yah, so I will take His Written scriptures which includes the Renewed Covenant over anyone's opinion. Whether you believe in it, or not, is of no consequence to me. You are free to believe what you will, as am I. However, my comment was not to convince you of it's validity. I was speaking directly to the misinterpretation of the verse itself.

[@janishart5128]

@@torahobservant8708: What Maggie said toy you happens to be TRUE! NO FURTHER SCRIPTURES were given to mankind by God AFTER Mr. Sinai (God told us that His words are ETERNAL, i.e. STILL in effect and binding TODAY - a LIVING document!), therefore "Christianity" absolutely DID NOT come from God. PLEASE buy a Hebrew Bible (says "Stone Edition TANACH" on the cover), and Rabbi Singer's books, as well as Rabbi Stuart Federow's book "Judaism and Christianity: A Contrast", to help you understand why Christianity absolutely DID NOT come from God.

[@torahobservant8708]

@@janishart5128 Talmud regarding BOTH (Triumphant/Suffering Messiah): It is very interesting that most will act as if this is a "Christian theology" when it is absolutely in the Talmud and the Zohar based off their own readings of the TANACH (which I have by the way, thanks for the suggestion) that the Messiah could come and die for the community (Suffering Messiah Ben Yoseph and then later Triumphant Messiah Ben David). The only difference is they believe it would be 2 separate Messiah’s, we believe He will do both. Yet, I hear this often how supposedly the Christians (Paul, etc.) are purely going from the NT and do not have the backing of Jewish Bible. Scripture's clearly speak of how the Messiah will come, and wars cease, etc. However, there are also prophesies in the Tanach about His suffering, even those in the Talmud knew this. Yes, even the possibility of the Messiah having to DIE the first time He came. This, according to them, was if He found them unworthy at the time of His first coming. Most would agree, at the time of Yeshua, there was some shady things taking place in Jerusalem as far as who was the High Priest, etc. Mashiach Ben Yosef in the Zohar: “When the Mashiach hears of the great suffering of Israel in their dispersion, and of the wicked amongst them who seek not to know their Master. He weeps aloud on account of those wicked ones amongst them, as it is written: But He was wounded because of our transgression, he was crushed because of our iniquities”… The Mashiach, on His part enters a certain Hall in the Garden of Eden, called the Hall of the Afflicted. There He calls for all the diseases and pains and sufferings of Israel, bidding them settle on Himself. Which they do. And were it not that He thus eases the burden from Israel taking it on himself. No one could endure the sufferings meted out to Israel in expiation on account of their neglect of the Torah. So scripture says: “Surely our diseases he did bear.” As long as Israel were in the Holy Land by means of the Temple service and sacrifices that averted all evil diseases and afflictions from the world. Now it is the Mashiach who is the means of averting them from mankind until the time when a man quits this world and receives his punishment… “ 24 This is speaking of Isaiah 53:5-8 and disagrees that it is speaking of Israel, and not the Messiah. Talmud - Mas. Sukkah 52a: What is the cause of the mourning (mentioned in the last cited verse)? R. Dosa and the Rabbis differ on the point. One explained, The cause is the slaying of the Messiah the son of Joseph, and the other explained, The cause is the slaying of the Evil Inclination. It is well according to him who explains that the cause is the slaying of Messiah the son of Joseph, since that well agrees with the Scriptural verse, And they shall look upon me because they have thrust him through, and they shall mourn for him as one mourneth for his only son: but according to him who explains the cause to be the slaying of the Evil Inclination, is this (it may be objected) an occasion for rejoicing? Why then should they weep? - (The explanation is) as R. Judah expounded: In the time to come the Holy One, blessed be He, will bring the Evil Inclination and slay it in the presence of the righteous and the wicked. Talmud above also shows they believed the Messiah could very well die for the sins of the people. Yes, not all agreed, however, it proves that even the Jews knew it was a real possibility that the Messiah would have to die for the sins of His people. Talmud: “R. Joshua opposed two verses: it is written, ‘And behold, one like the son of man came with the clouds of heaven; whilst elsewhere it is written, ‘behold, thy King cometh unto thee lowly and riding upon an ass!” ’16 After much discussion on these seeming contradictory passages, the Rabbis concluded:” If they (Israel) are meritorious, he will come with the clouds of heaven; if not, lowly and riding upon as ass”17 Which “lowly and riding upon a donkey (ass)” is exactly what Yeshua did. As far as the Messiah having to die for the sins of the people, some quote ezekiel 18:20-21, as to say that it proves this can not be, "The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him (18:20). But if a wicked person turns away from all his sins that he has committed and keeps all my statutes and does what is just and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live." Again, the Talmud and the Zohar disagree with you... Here is some interesting commentary from a Jewish man…Sorry, I couldn't figure out his name, anyway, the Zohar is referenced. “Isaiah 57:1 The righteous one perishes, and no man takes it to heart; men of kindness are gathered in with no one understanding that because of the impending evil the RIGHTEOUS ONE was gathered in. He will come in peace; they will rest on their resting places - he who walks in his integrity. (Tanach) Zohar states (III 118b): "If the sins multiply in the world, then ALL the righteous suffer in order to cure (bring to repentance) the generation. But when THEY are not so much, then ONE RIGHTEOUS PERSON suffers and the rest are left in peace because the world does not need their sufferings. If the people are cured (they repent) then the righteous are cured. There are times that righteous men suffer their whole lives to protect the generation. When the sins get very great, the righteous die, and that causes them to be cured, and they are forgiven"” Continuing, “In Rabbinic literature the reason why the righteous suffer even when they have not sinned is so that those who see their suffering should repent of their sins. Isaiah 57 explains this. It is similar to the reason why a sacrifice is brought for an unintentional sin. He should look at the innocent animal and say that I should be that sacrifice and repent of his sins.” This is clearly stated in the Zohar (III 57b): "All those who are pained by the suffering of the righteous their sins are removed from the world... all those that are pained from those righteous who have died, or who sheds tears for them, G-d proclaims over him, 'Your sins are removed, your iniquities removed.' Not just that, but his children will not die in his days as it says, 'He will see seed, and lengthen his days.' (Is 53:10)" The suffering is to effect repentance and hence atonement of sin. Suffering does not atone. The repentance that one does because of the death or suffering of the righteous atones.”

[@torahobservant8708]

@@janishart5128 Love how they are deleting my posts...proves I'm speaking Truth...Talmud regarding BOTH (Triumphant/Suffering Messiah): It is very interesting that most will act as if this is a "Christian theology" when it is absolutely in the Talmud and the Zohar based off their own readings of the TANACH (which I have by the way, thanks for the suggestion) that the Messiah could come and die for the community and rise again (Suffering Messiah Ben Yoseph and Triumphant Messiah Ben David). The only difference is they believe it would be 2 separate Messiah’s, we believe He will do both. Yet, I hear this often how supposedly the Christians (Paul, etc.) are purely going from the NT and do not have the backing of Jewish Bible. Scripture's clearly speak of how the Messiah will come, and wars cease, etc. However, there are also prophesies in the Tanach about His suffering, even those in the Talmud knew this. They wrote of how the Tanach teaches BOTH (Triumphant/Suffering Messiah). Yes, even the possibility of the Messiah having to DIE the first time He came. This, according to them, was if He found them unworthy at the time of His first coming. Most would agree, at the time of Yeshua, there was some shady things taking place in Jerusalem as far as who was the High Priest, etc. Mashiach Ben Yosef in the Zohar: “When the Mashiach hears of the great suffering of Israel in their dispersion, and of the wicked amongst them who seek not to know their Master. He weeps aloud on account of those wicked ones amongst them, as it is written: But He was wounded because of our transgression, he was crushed because of our iniquities”… The Mashiach, on His part enters a certain Hall in the Garden of Eden, called the Hall of the Afflicted. There He calls for all the diseases and pains and sufferings of Israel, bidding them settle on Himself. Which they do. And were it not that He thus eases the burden from Israel taking it on himself. No one could endure the sufferings meted out to Israel in expiation on account of their neglect of the Torah. So scripture says: “Surely our diseases he did bear.” As long as Israel were in the Holy Land by means of the Temple service and sacrifices that averted all evil diseases and afflictions from the world. Now it is the Mashiach who is the means of averting them from mankind until the time when a man quits this world and receives his punishment… “ 24 This is speaking of Isaiah 53:5-8 and disagrees that it is speaking of Israel, and not the Messiah. Talmud - Mas. Sukkah 52a: What is the cause of the mourning (mentioned in the last cited verse)? R. Dosa and the Rabbis differ on the point. One explained, The cause is the slaying of the Messiah the son of Joseph, and the other explained, The cause is the slaying of the Evil Inclination. It is well according to him who explains that the cause is the slaying of Messiah the son of Joseph, since that well agrees with the Scriptural verse, And they shall look upon me because they have thrust him through, and they shall mourn for him as one mourneth for his only son: but according to him who explains the cause to be the slaying of the Evil Inclination, is this (it may be objected) an occasion for rejoicing? Why then should they weep? - (The explanation is) as R. Judah expounded: In the time to come the Holy One, blessed be He, will bring the Evil Inclination and slay it in the presence of the righteous and the wicked. Talmud above also shows they believed the Messiah could very well die for the sins of the people. Yes, not all agreed, however, it proves that even the Jews knew it was a real possibility that the Messiah would have to die for the sins of His people. Talmud: “R. Joshua opposed two verses: it is written, ‘And behold, one like the son of man came with the clouds of heaven; whilst elsewhere it is written, ‘behold, thy King cometh unto thee lowly and riding upon an ass!” ’16 After much discussion on these seeming contradictory passages, the Rabbis concluded:” If they (Israel) are meritorious, he will come with the clouds of heaven; if not, lowly and riding upon as ass”17 Which “lowly and riding upon a donkey (ass)” is exactly what Yeshua did. As far as the Messiah having to die for the sins of the people, some quote ezekiel 18:20-21, as to say that it proves this can not be, "The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him (18:20). But if a wicked person turns away from all his sins that he has committed and keeps all my statutes and does what is just and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live." Again, the Talmud and the Zohar disagree with you... Here is some interesting commentary from a Jewish man…Sorry, I couldn't figure out his name, anyway, the Zohar is referenced. “Isaiah 57:1 The righteous one perishes, and no man takes it to heart; men of kindness are gathered in with no one understanding that because of the impending evil the RIGHTEOUS ONE was gathered in. He will come in peace; they will rest on their resting places - he who walks in his integrity. (Tanach) Zohar states (III 118b): "If the sins multiply in the world, then ALL the righteous suffer in order to cure (bring to repentance) the generation. But when THEY are not so much, then ONE RIGHTEOUS PERSON suffers and the rest are left in peace because the world does not need their sufferings. If the people are cured (they repent) then the righteous are cured. There are times that righteous men suffer their whole lives to protect the generation. When the sins get very great, the righteous die, and that causes them to be cured, and they are forgiven"” Continuing, “In Rabbinic literature the reason why the righteous suffer even when they have not sinned is so that those who see their suffering should repent of their sins. Isaiah 57 explains this. It is similar to the reason why a sacrifice is brought for an unintentional sin. He should look at the innocent animal and say that I should be that sacrifice and repent of his sins.” This is clearly stated in the Zohar (III 57b): "All those who are pained by the suffering of the righteous their sins are removed from the world... all those that are pained from those righteous who have died, or who sheds tears for them, G-d proclaims over him, 'Your sins are removed, your iniquities removed.' Not just that, but his children will not die in his days as it says, 'He will see seed, and lengthen his days.' (Is 53:10)" The suffering is to effect repentance and hence atonement of sin. Suffering does not atone. The repentance that one does because of the death or suffering of the righteous atones.”

[@stephenarrigo5679]

Isaiah 53:6 "WE ALL like sheep have gone astray, EACH ONE OF US have turned our own way; and the LORD has turned on Him the iniquity of us all" The Prophet Isaiah in the Hebrew Bible stated "WE ALL" and "EACH ONE"...Than the logical conclusion is Israel would be among the transgressors!!...So this refutes your claim Rabbi, that Israel is the "Suffering Servant' of Isaiah 53...Can you or any follower here refute the logical point I put forth here on 53:6 in this thread?

[@mooshei8165]

Doesn’t mean it’s Jesus.

[@stephenarrigo5679]

@@mooshei8165 And the LORD has turned on HIM the iniquity of US ALL... Question #1 Him is the singular masculine pronoun, correct?...That can't be Israel, correct? Question #2 Us ALL refers to a collective people, ALL would include Israel, correct? Question #3 Logic dictates Israel can't be 'Him' and 'Us all' correct? Question #4 Who do you believe is 'Him' and 'Us all'? Please respond to the above questions I believe the Scripture from OUR Holy Bible teaches 'Us all' would be sinners BOTH Jews and Gentiles and 'Him' the Messiah Jesus who bared our sinful transgressions and nailed them to the Cross for our salvation!...Please, turn to Jesus...The WHOLE account of Isaiah 53 is played out in the Crucifuxtion of Jesus!...And you can't give an informed response without reading the Gospel...God Bless!!

[@douglaslindsey7512]

Of course it does. @@mooshei8165

[@mooshei8165]

@@stephenarrigo5679 read the Bible? Most, if not, all Christians don’t even read the Bible. Maybe they’ll cherry pick from it and inserting Jesus name into the Jews Torah.

[@stephenarrigo5679]

@@mooshei8165 I noticed in your reply you did not answer any of the questions I put forth on Isaiah 53:6...How come?...You are welcome to put forth a refutation but I believe the clear language of the scripture prevents that, thus you didn't...Come to Jesus, He welcomes you!! "I am the way and the truth and the the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6 God Bless!!

[@asseryarafat-f6j]

Geologies or genealogies? In either case the jezuz story is the biggest bubba meisa ever invented 😂

[@shirleyannelindberg1692]

Typo - give it a break 🙄

[@susanlett9632]

The biggest fraud perpetuated in recorded history

[@Curtis1984]

Look, if ya'll do not have faith in Jesus after reading the book of Hebrews KJV in the New Testament.. then it's possible you never will, and will remain in darkness, even eternally. Stop listening to a man "Rabbi" and hanging on all his words. Let the Holy Ghost convince and convict you instead of hearing a man constantly and carnally attack another. -Blessings.

[@Curtis1984]

Seriously, read it carefully and prayerfully. I dare ya! 🙂 Proverbs 18:13 (KJV) He that answereth a matter before he heareth [it], it [is] folly and shame unto him.

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

We prefer Hashem to the holy spook.

[@JambavatiSutaDas]

King James version? Oh ya thats the newer shorter Bible that took out books from the original so why go with the that one?

[@Curtis1984]

⁠@@JambavatiSutaDasyou cannot name a better more accurate and thoroughly complete *English* version. Hebrews 4:1-7 (KJV) 1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left [us] of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard [it]. 3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh [day] on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. 5 And in this [place] again, If they shall enter into my rest. 6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: 7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.

[@JambavatiSutaDas]

​@Curtis1984 it's cool if you like the kjv that took out books that Christians recognized and was apart if thier official cannon since 393 a.d. and the newer shorter version came out in 1611 and is only recognized by the minority of Christians while the majority use the original cannon that's been recognized by real Christians since 393 a.d.

[@justinfonseca6182]

The same way God got Abraham's wife pregnant is the same way He could have done for Mary, Joseph's wife. And Jehovah visited Sarah as he had said, and Jehovah did unto Sarah as he had spoken. And Sarah conceived, and bare Abraham a son in his old age, at the set time of which God had spoken to him. Genesis 21:1-2 asv

[@Nai61a]

justin etc: So there is nothing special about "Jesus", then? How can anybody take all this nonsense seriously? There is no good, credible, extra-biblical, contemporary evidence that the "Jesus" character, as described in the New Testament, actually existed. All that virgin birth, miracle-working, dying-and-rising stuff is just make-believe.

[@crosscheck7669]

John 1:14 14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

If God were to have body and form, He would be limited and defined, because it is impossible for there to be a body which has no limitation. Everything that has limitation and definition, by virtue of its body, also has a limited and bounded power. Since God's ability and power have no limitation or boundary, His power is not the power of a body. And since He does not have a body or any form, He cannot be affected by any circumstances that can affect a body, as for example the effects of being separate from another entity. Thus it is impossible for Him to be anything other than one.

[@mooshei8165]

The New Testament is irrelevant

[@ecomandurban7183]

you have free choice that means you are free to decide for yourself whether your choice is based on fact or not. You will not find a Jew who is going to pressure you into believing what we believe. this is contrary to Christians who are obsessed with trying to convert us Jews to Christianity

[@paulawallace8784]

​@ViralChristianityDaniel tells of a vision of "one like a man" standing before the ANCIENT OF DAYS, who like his forefather King David will represent all of Israel the Jews, nowhere does it say that he will be worshiped, keep reading and you find out that Visions were about how Israel, Gd's Chosen will receive and inherit the Kingdom forever and to all Eternity. The Moshiach will be a mortal man of flesh and blood, a direct descendant of King David from his very body/seed, son after son, from the Tribe of Judah, of the House of David, who Isaiah tells comes at the End of the Days and will be ANIMATED BY THE FEAR OF THE LRD!

[@paulawallace8784]

​@ViralChristianityThere are No Fallen Angels in Scripture, just as there is no Hell of eternal torment, no lake of fire, those beliefs are those of the Enemies of Gd and His Chosen, His Firstborn Son Israel the Jews.

[@nikered123]

if you look at the two sons of Abraham Ishmael was the offspring of the slave woman and was brought forth naturally but when the supernatural born son was brought forth his covenant was going to be the righteous covenant God wanted to use if Abraham hadn’t become impatient and planted his 1st seed into the slave woman. Genesis 15 tells us Abraham “believed” and it was counted on to him as righteousness this is the covenant God wanted to bring but Abraham had Ishmael therefore the law had to come first Do you notice Ishmaels mother took him out to the desert…..and the next covenant that comes after abraham is Moses takes Hebrew children out to the desert to receive the covenant of the law The 1500 years later a child is born supernatural like Isaac was born supernatural and now we are under the Isaac covenant if we “believe by faith”….but Jews want to remain under Ishmaels covenant of the law…once this Isaac covenant ends God will combine the two covenants during the millennium and reinstate the law /Ishmael covenant for holiness and the Isaac covenant/faith in Jesus for salvation….that is why you see the law reinstated during the millennium….for holiness not salvation…the Isaac covenant is for salvation

[@shirleyannelindberg1692]

G-d gave up jesus for adoption - now that’s really funny 😁 😜

[@MaritsaDarman]

An AVMA is a young virgin yes a virgin

[@sarasohaib6765]

and what american ppl have to do with Joseph She is even not there at once

[@MaritsaDarman]

Real Christians born of the Holy Spirit as promised by Christ as promised in the Old Testament as promised to be given by God himself love the Jewish people and support the Jewish nation and I don’t like hearing false claims being made… how about Paul and Steven they knew Torah perhaps better than you no offense. Could Noah read? He took directions on how to build a boat from God

[@davisuehara3528]

Jesus genealogy in Matthew is that of Mary (Miriam), not Joseph. Joseph was Mary's father. Mary also had a husband named Joseph. Joseph was a common name.

[@DIBBY40]

They are both Joseph's genealogy. They say so.

[@torahobservant8708]

@@DIBBY40 No they don't...It was proven that it actually say's Mary's Father, not husband.

[@laccess911]

How many husbands did Mary have and how many dads did Jesus have?

[@davisuehara3528]

@@laccess911 Mary had two men in her life. Pantera and Joseph. In regards to his father, there are only two fathers. The One above, and the one below. I ask you, who was Jesus father?

[@laccess911]

@@davisuehara3528 Jesus doesn’t have a father. He has a mother only.

[@nikered123]

Abraham had two sons….which are 2 covenants. Ishmael the natural born son is the covenant of the law and they were sent into the desert. Just as Moses went with the children of Israel into the desert to receive the 1st covenant of Ishmael the law. The other supernatural born son covenant is based on faith. As it says in genesis 15 Abram believed God and it was counted as righteousness. This is the covenant God wanted to happen but Abraham got impatient and planted his seed in the bond woman instead of the free woman. Therefore God had to bring forth the slave covenant of the law/ishmael covenant which was meant for the ishmaelites but the children of Israel adopted this covenant as we see they went with Moses into the desert and were given the law…to be of the law is to be of slave to it just as Ishmael and his mother were sent into the desert. We can tell when the Ishmael covenant would be over when a child of a supernatural birth happened like Isaac which was Jesus. Now is the time for salvation through faith in Jesus as God originally intended. Right now the law/ishmael is on pause that the Isaac covenant could come forth right now,. Once Jesus collects all those who put faith in Jesus at the end of the 2000 years then he will reinstate the Ismael/law covenant and combine it with Isaac/faith covenant. The law part will be only for holiness as the blood of bulls and goats can’t take away sin it only covers it. The Issac covenant is the faith in Jesus covenant that removes sin. The Isaac covenant which will be faith in Jesus for salvation will also be in effect during the millennium because God will combine the Old Testament covenant/the law and the New Testament covenant /Faith in Jesus to make one united covenant We see the temple and the levitic priesthood on earth therefore it has to be combining the old covenant of the law and the new Issac covenant of faith . If you need faith for salvation Jesus can’t be on earth or the faith factor is gone….Being it is a levitic priesthood David can’t be high priest….see how the 2nd anointed has to be the high priest because in levitic priesthood you have to have a high priest separate from the kingship or you cancel the levitic priesthood and make it melchelzedek order therefore flawing the law as Jesus said not one jot or one tille will change until heaven and earth pass away

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

Abraham kept the 7 Noahide laws.

[@nikered123]

@@hrvatskinoahid1048 Abraham was of the dispensation/covenant of promise….Ishmaels next dispensation/covenant would be “the law”….then would come the child of supernatural birth like isaacs birth but this would be Jesus to bring forth the issac covenant of “Faith”. Faith that Jesus died rose again and your sins are forgiven by believing in his sacrifice Promise or Patriarchal Rule - From Abraham to Moses. Ends with the refusal to enter Canaan and the 40 years of unbelief in the wilderness. Some use the terms Abrahamic law or Abrahamic covenant in reference to this period of dispensation. Law - From Moses to the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. Ends with the scattering of Israel in AD 70. Some use the term Mosaic law in reference to this period of dispensation. Grace - From the cross to the rapture of the church seen by some groups as being present in 1 Thessalonians and the Book of Revelation. The rapture is followed by wrath of God constituting the Great Tribulation. Some use the term Age of Grace or the Church Age for this dispensation.

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

@@nikered123 The commandments of the Torah are eternal and immutable: 613 for Jews and the 7 for Gentiles.

[@nikered123]

@@hrvatskinoahid1048 if you look at the two sons of Abraham Ishmael was the offspring of the slave woman and was brought forth naturally but when the supernatural born son was brought forth his covenant was going to be the righteous covenant God wanted to use if Abraham hadn’t become impatient and planted his 1st seed into the slave woman. Genesis 15 tells us Abraham “believed” and it was counted on to him as righteousness this is the covenant God wanted to bring but Abraham had Ishmael therefore the law had to come first Do you notice Ishmaels mother took him out to the desert…..and the next covenant that comes after abraham is Moses takes Hebrew children out to the desert to receive the covenant of the law The 1500 years later a child is born supernatural like Isaac was born supernatural and now we are under the Isaac covenant if we “believe by faith”….but Jews want to remain under Ishmaels covenant of the law…once this Isaac covenant ends God will combine the two covenants during the millennium and reinstate the law /Ishmael covenant for holiness and the Isaac covenant/faith in Jesus for salvation….that is why you see the law reinstated during the millennium….for holiness not salvation…the Isaac covenant is for salvation

[@kagitenzing1986]

Das die Jünger Jesus Schule gingen ist es NICHT möglich. Waren doch arme Menschen (Fischer). Ist in der heutigen Zeit nicht besser 😂

[@mooshei8165]

Anonymous writer making stuff up.

[@Liquid_Atlas]

Then explain the shroud of turin or the many verses in the old testament that foretold his coming and which he fulfilled. You are the one who is mistaken lol

[@AdrianDesmond-sh4qp]

Why does the jewish people descendants only fit the dna of Jephthah?

[@Cashew10]

Christianity doctrine is so absurd, inconsistent and scary. Jesus was god incarnate. He was killed by his creations as a sacrifice to redeem original sin. And crucifixion occured through Judas who was possessed by devil

[@mooshei8165]

Christianity doctrines are all gentile Greco Roman pagan doctrines and it’s a historical fact. Christians knows it too.

[@stephenarrigo5679]

Rabbi Singer...Lamentations 2 serves as Scriptural proof that Israel is not the innocent, righteous Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53 as Jerusalem stands convicted of sin by God... Lamentations 2:1 "How the LORD in His anger has covered the daughter of Zion with the cloud of His anger, He cast the glory of Israel from heaven to earth, He has abandoned His footstool in His day of anger"...More testimony...Isaiah 53:6 reads "We all, like sheep have gone astray, each one has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid the iniquity of us all on him."..."we all" and "us all" would include Israel, correct?...Then how could Israel be the "righteous" Suffering Servant?...Please explain, how do you reconcile the scriptural text with your claim...And excising other scriptural text with poor exegesis fully out of context is dishonest...Your theory is also predicated on and falsely presumes there cannot be two distinct servants in the book of Isaiah...Please respond.

[@booksquid856]

Think. Lamentations is an entirely different book. Neither author was cross referencing each other's text to decide who meant what. Not only that, but it is silly to think that because a nation goes astray that there are not still people a part of that nation who are righteous and suffer. Don't you as an individual sometimes suffer from the negative intentions of others, while being totally innocent of their accusations? Your entire Christian Bible is used for a different purpose and so horribly out of context. You pick an author and verse here or there--and without any understanding of Jewish national history or its leaders or its various forks of government or its constitutional principles or its historic debates or its language or its idioms--somehow you think you can prove your foreign religion is legitimized by the texts. It's like using the Federalist papers to prove your great aunt's cookie recipe was truly divine.

[@stephenarrigo5679]

Please explain to me from Isaiah 53:6 [see below] how do you reconcile Israel being the 'Suffering Servant' with this scriptural passage from OUR Hebrew Bible...Please respond to my questions in the brackets...First the scriptural verse [All caps for emphasis]... "ALL we like sheep have gone astray; we have ALL turned to our own way. And the LORD has laid on HIM the iniquity of US ALL" Point #1 "ALL we like sheep have gone astray" [Would ALL not include the people of Israel?] Point #2 "We have ALL turned to our own way" [Again would not all include Israel?] Point #3 "And the LORD has laid on HIM the iniquity of US ALL" [HIM is a singular masculine pronoun and US ALL references a collective people, so please explain, who is HIM? and again, does not 'US ALL' include Israel? Could Israel be both HIM and US ALL?...Logic would dictate no, correct?] My position is that Jesus is the suffering Servant Next...Please read the below passage from Isaiah 42:6, who is the LORD referencing? Isaiah 42:6 "I the LORD have called you to demonstrate my righteousnes. I will take you by the hand and guard you and give you to my people Israel, as a symbol of my covenant with them and you will be a light to guide the nations" Point #1 'Give YOU to my people Israel' ...Means it can't be Israel, correct? Point #2 Jesus was the Messiah to be 'a light to the Nations'...This is a foreshadow of Jesus in Isaih 53 Please note, I am a firm supporter of the Jewish people and Israel and I know as the scripture teaches in Revelation, Jesus will come back to Jerusalem and save Israel I implore you to turn to Him!!...Amen.

[@fuatkarakoc3287]

Shalom. Y'shuat Messiah's father is Asad (Leo). The Holy Spirit took Asad's semen from his back and injected it into Mary.

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

No temple, no Messiah.

[@fuatkarakoc3287]

@@hrvatskinoahid1048 Shalom. The floor of the fırst temple was made of glass, I have no idea how it will be today.

[@alenasvarkulys2810]

Was Moses literate in the eyes of jews or even legitimate leader? Did not jews ssy give us some idol to worship and elect princes over us cause with do not know this Moses who is he or where is he now that is in old testament.Jews was allways rebelious towards God and the prophets did not God say you the leaders killed my prophets and did things which were pleasing to your own hearts.?

[@eljefescientist5726]

@9:38 Samael’s / Devil’s Advocate: What about the ~180 AD ultra-orthodox, Protoevangelium of James account? Hypothetically, where issues of Davidic Patriarchy arise, couldn’t EZRA 10:3 prevail? Here genealogy would go to Mary from Judah, who imparted Davidic-biology onto Christ via breast-milk >> re: Mary’s own birth was natural blood (Davidic) from Anna, who waited her purity days before nursing or touching Mary, logistically a bat Elohim) … fast fwd >>> Mary gives birth to Jesus (a ben Elohim in a bloodless birth, no birth-canal passing, etc.) in a stone cave via a Gen 1:2-3 water-light revelation process. Per the Midwife, the infant’s first earthly act was to nurse (Davidic*) Milk from his mother’s breast in a hyper-‘taharah’ state of Levitical purity (re: the time manipulation attested by Joseph, etc.) Could EZRA 10:3 be considered in this case? I know this is a bit out there, but I ask with respect since the account is pre-church. Thank you Rabbi.

[@sarasohaib6765]

believe me Abraham is not the final authority

[@HilaryMurray-cp6ys]

He use the foolish to confound the wise!

[@timhochstetler]

Mary was also a descendant of David which is why Jesus can be called the son of David, as Mary was a near cousin of Joseph. So both of them being of the line of David gives Jesus his title.

[@knot_sure4122]

Truth be told 💯

[@psandbergnz]

What makes you think that Mary descended from David? Provide some evidence, before you write more rubbish! Also, Jesus did not descend from Joseph. The Gospels don't even say that Joseph adopted Jesus. So you have absolutely no case. You would need evidence for adoption.

[@knot_sure4122]

How could Jesus descend from Joseph??? Mary was a virgin according to the gospels. Where is the proof she was not a virgin. Your telling me God could not impregnate Mary? Hashem does not have limits.

[@D18.21]

@Mark1615backup Where's Jesus's patrilineal geneology to David? Nowhere. Show us where in the Hebrew scriptures one can inherit geneology through adoption. According to Christianity, jesus was not the biological offspring of Joseph, and thus, has no tribal affiliation to King David. Where's inheritance of genealogy through adoption? Genesis 15 2And Abram said, "O Lord God, what will You give me, since I am going childless, and the steward of my household is Eliezer of Damascus?" 3And Abram said, "Behold, You have given me no children, 👉and behold, one of my household will inherit me."👈 4👉And behold, the word of the Lord came to him, saying, "This one will not inherit you👈, 👉but the one who will spring from your innards-he will inherit you."👈 Did Jesus spring from the innards of Joseph! NOPE!

[@psandbergnz]

@@johnruby1363, the child was not born of Joseph, and the fictitious narrative doesn't even say that Joseph adopted him, which would need to be legalised. As you wrote "same rules apply today". Do you have evidence that Joseph adopted him?

[@smileyone6186]

Go ohio❤

[@alexmilne9251]

Hmm clear as mud , as with all religions, world domination is what religion is really about , eg a world full of Jews is perfect for the Jews a world full of Muslims would suit the Muslims and so on , how about a world full humans with no religion, that would make it a alot easier to love thy neighbour, and when a human does the wrong thing the human can be blamed and punished. Is religion really necessary or is it just another man made burden

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

Gentiles have no obligation to convert to Judaism.

[@HilaryMurray-cp6ys]

That means you guys too!

[@bookmouse2719]

Thank you Rabbi, so then the male genealogy is worthless if Jebus didn't have a Father. So he didn't have a tribe.

[@Matthew_Scan]

Matthew was not Illiterate as he was a tax collector By the way God gave up Moses for adoption I’m 3% Jewish myself according to DNA

[@goldengun9970]

Moses was born to a man and a woman the dame way everyone else is. He was given up for adoption to save his life but luckiky his family and him did not stay hidden from each other or his geneology

[@Matthew_Scan]

What sort of mother puts her baby in a river and disappears?

[@goldengun9970]

@vcrcnk666 the type who prefers the chance of him being adopted over him being killed.

[@TorianTammas]

@@Matthew_Scan Sargon of Akkad and Romulus and Remus were put in a river. So it is pretty common troupe for "special people". When you read this you know that the author wanted to make them appear special.

[@mooshei8165]

Matthew writing about another Matthew in the third person?

[@islamshabar101]

One book. Isaiah. Ruins all that you stand against when it comes to Christ 😂 why is it that all your claims if so profound and true do they stay within the little bubble you create of those in denial of Christ 😅 youd think youd grow in number and size that comes to comparison of those who follow Christ yet here you are claim today gone and dead tomorrow 🤣

[@paulawallace8784]

Gd used the Book of Isaiah to remove the BLINDING SCALES from my eyes and Delivered me from a lifetime spent in willful BONDAGE TO HEATHEN IDOLATRY/CHRISTIANITY.

[@paulawallace8784]

As Isaiah tells, King David's progeny, the Moshiach will come at the End of the Days and will be ANIMATED BY THE FEAR OF THE LRD!

[@paulawallace8784]

The teachings of King David's progeny will bring about WORLD PEACE where the Wolves abide with the Lambs, where the Implements of War are turned into Implements of Agricultural and WAR IS NO MORE, just as they will bring all of Mankind to the Rightful worship of the CREATOR, the ETERNAL ONE, EHYEH ASHER EHYEH/I WILL BE WHAT I WILL BE, his GD, his LRD, his SAVIOR, his REDEEMER, to WHOM EVERY KNEE SHALL KNEEL, EVERY TONGUE SHALL SWEAR!

[@mooshei8165]

@@notawinemom8540it’s not even about Jesus. Stop inserting Jesus name in there.

[@paulawallace8784]

@notawinemom8540 Ha! Get a real Bible, the Original Jewish Torah/Tanakh and read all of the Book of the Prophet Isaiah, who tells over and over again that Israel and Jacob are Gd's Servant, chapter 53 is no exception for it is where the DUMBFOUNDED Kings/Leaders of the Gentile Nations LAMENT that the Gentiles refused the Report/Truth, they Sinned and on their own initiative INFLICTED the Suffering upon Gd's Servant, Israel and Jacob, the Jews.

[@SN1987A]

DNA only become relevant if your trying to prove something. Other than that it doesn’t really matter. If you were a native, primitive a caveman or an aboriginal in the island of Negroes Philippines. DNA doesn’t really matter. And yet I asked ChatGpt on who the oldest civilization.. Sumerian- I asked about aboriginal. ChapGPT says.. it’s wayyyy older than Sumerian. DNA only proves superiority between men. The barbaric past still hunts u down till this date. We managed to deliver gold to Solomon, sheltered both Islam and Jews. Yup a house were Muslim fight for safe landing and stays of Jews. Now both fighting over a land that isn’t even theirs to begin with.

[@onejohn2.26.]

The verse you showed on screen from Acts, that the people perceived the apostles to be ignorant... that does not mean that they were. Secondly I agree that Christianity is corrupted, but that does not mean that Yeshua is not the Messiah. You are mixing apples and oranges, it is a straw man argument.

[@tshou520]

Yoshke isn't the messiah because he did *_nothing_* messianic. The corrupted "new" testament is the least of your problems.

[@onejohn2.26.]

@@tshou520 Do you think that might be because you have been brainwashed for generations to believe that Yeshua is not the messiah? I would suggest that you actually find out what Yeshua did and what he taught

[@tshou520]

​@onejohn2.26. I found out that jebus did nothing and taught lies. It doesn't take a genius to figure out these lies, just a heart to follow G-d and His truth. The fact of the matter is that jezues did absolutely nothing that G-d says would happen when the messiah comes. G-d tells us that when the messiah comes, the exiles will be gathered in, the temple will be rebuilt, the sacrificial system will be reinstated, the world will be healed of all of it's afflictions, the resurrection of the d3@d will occur, the world will be at peace, etc. Quite the contrary occurred when jebus came. The Jews were scattered, the temple was destroyed, the sacrifices stopped, we were ki113d, and there was certainly no peace. What did jebus do? Nothing, besides a few magic tricks. I would suggest that you actually find out what G-d's opinion on the matter is.

[@booksquid856]

​@@onejohn2.26.Do you think you might be brainwashed for centuries by your own religion to think it's okay to redefine the leadership roles of a nation you don't even belong to? As an American, how would you feel if some future foreign religion told your descendants they could only achieve Nirvana through faith in Uncle Sam who was the one true "President" and "commander in chief"? Or that MLK was the one true President rejected by the blind Americans and sacrificed so that we no longer have to offer fireworks on Independence day? Absurd. And so is the Christian reinvention of the term "Messiah."

[@nikkinik17]

Freudian slip at 1:48 he almost calls the Bible the injeel 🤔

[@nikered123]

Hebrews 7:12: For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. The jewish people stated that Jesus didn't follow certain things concerning the law. What the jewish people don't realize is Jesus was bringing forth a new covenant with new instructions as it states in hebrews 7:12 where the priesthood is changed the law is also changed. Jesus' claim wasn't to be high priest of the levitic priesthood....Jesus is High Priest of the melchelzedek priesthood, therefore new covenant and new priesthood means, change in instructions and what is permissible......one example being that Jesus' cant die for the sins of others according to the levtic priesthood law.....but under the melchelzedek preisthood law those laws don't apply as Jesus came to bring people under the melchelzedek priesthood kingdom, not the levtic priesthood kingdom To live under the levtic priesthood means "to live under the curse"...to live under the melchelzedek priesthood kingdom means "to live under the blessing". The goal is to live under the blessing. The people during the millennium will still be living under the curse because the levtic priesthood will be in effect on earth and sin will still be present. Once the millennium is over then a new heaven and new earth will be created, sin done away with and all will be of the melchelzedek priesthood.

[@andreduncan4224]

Tovia Singer, you can not to Yeshua unless Yahweh draws you. My heart desire and prayer is that all Israel will be saved. Seed of the woman.

[@PazPinhasRahamim9220]

*There is no prophecy in Genesis 3:15.* The seed of the woman is mentioned, because she was one who was tempted, that is all. This speaks of hatered between human kind and real snakes, nothing more. It is not a prophecy. Or do you think JC was also the son of Hagar, because she was blessed with 'seed' by god's angel: *Genesis 16:10 Chabad (the correct translation)* 10And the angel of the Lord said to her, "I will greatly multiply *your seed,* and it will not be counted for abundance." Or Rebecca as her brothers blessed her with seed: *Genesis 24:60 Chabad (the correct translation)* 60And they blessed Rebecca and said to her, "Our sister, may you become thousands of myriads, and may *your seed* inherit the cities of their enemies". *There is no prophecy there, just an explanation of eternal hatered between snakes (who are real snakes and not the devil as you precieve) and the human kind.* *All God's curses to the serpent only bifit snakes.* I mean, why would God punish the serpent with punishments only befitting it ?? Why punish it at all as it was innocent -what kind of God punishes the innocent for being victimised?? and Satan got away scott free ???? It has nothing to do with Satan or the seed (JC) crushing it. It explains the human natural distaste of snakes. Nothing more. ___________________________________________________ *See how you were all lied to:* *The Messiah making the sacrefices, including sin sacrefices as atonement for himself (!!) and for the people* *Ezekiel 45* 17And the burnt-offerings and the meal-offerings and the libations on the Festivals and on the New Moons and on the Sabbaths, and on all the times fixed for meetings of the House of Israel shall devolve on the prince; *he shall prepare the sin-offering* and the meal-offering and the burnt offering and the peace-offering, *to effect atonement for the House of Israel.* 22 *And the prince shall make on that day for himself and for all the people of Israel a bull for a sin-offering.* *Who beguiled you ?? You know the answer - Paul. Paul knew all that, but he also knew the gentiles couldn't read the hebrew. You all fell for the lies of a self proclaimed liar. He couldn't fool us.* *Why would I choose the words of a liar over the words of God through His chosen prophets??*

[@PazPinhasRahamim9220]

@@Michaelbrown-j4l *There is only one true prophet who was killed by the order of a vicious king, not by the people, and even his name Jesus couldn't name right:* *Matthew 23:35* "And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar." Zechariah son of Berekiah was not the priest that was killed at the alter. It was Zechariah son of Jehoiada that was killed ! Zechariah son of Berekiah (the prophet who wrote Zechariah) lived in the time of the return from the exile ! Zechariah son of Jehoiada that was killed lived in the time of king Yoash ! *And for some reason Luke's gospels omitted the full name of the prophet, referring to him only as Zechariah* Jesus couldn't even teach the bible to kindergarten kids. ___________________________________________________ Would you like to see other proves of Jesus's mistakes and false prophecies ??

[@Leyla_Bat_Murrah]

*1 Corinthians 9:20-22* 20 I have *become* like a Jew to the Jews, in order that I may *gain* the Jews. To those under the law I *became* as under the law (although I myself am not under the law) in order that I may *gain* those under the law. 21 To those outside the law I *became* as outside the law (although I subject to the law of Christ) in order that I may *gain* those outside the law. 22 To the weak I *became* weak, in order that I may *gain* the weak. I have *become* all things to all people that I may *gain* some of them. 20 וָאֶהִי לַיְּהוּדִים כִּיהוּדִי לִקְנוֹת הַיְּהוּדִים אֲשֶׁר הֵם תַּחַת הַתּוֹרָה לָהֶם הָיִיתִי כְּמִי שֶׁתַּחַת הַתּוֹרָה אַף כִּי־אֲנִי אֵינֶנִּי תַּחַת הַתּוֹרָה לְמַעַן קְנוֹת אוֹתָם שֶׁהֵם תַּחַת הַתּוֹרָה: 21 לְאֹתָם שֶׁאֵין לָהֶם תּוֹרָה הָיִיתִי כְּמִי שֶׁאֵין לוֹ תּוֹרָה אַף עַל־פִּי שֶׁאֵינֶנִּי בְּלֹא־תוֹרַת אֱלֹקִים כִּי־תוֹרַת הַמָּשִׁיחַ תּוֹרָתִי לְמַעַן קְנוֹת אוֹתָם שֶׁאֵין לָהֶם תּוֹרָה: 22 וְלַחַלָּשִׁים הָיִיתִי כְחַלָּשׁ לִקְנוֹת אֶת־הַחַלָּשִׁים הַכֹּל לְכֻלָּם נִהְיֵיתִי לְמַעַן אוֹשִׁיעַ אֲחָדִים עַל כָּל־פָּנִים

[@timhochstetler]

Why did God choose Abraham and make a nation out of him? He did it so that the world would hear about God and come to salvation through Israel. But Israel has not done what the LORD has commanded and either by worshipping idols of other nations or keeping God to themselves they were distracted from their mission. God is calling you back but wants you to share him with the world. You remind me so much of the self description of Paul, a jew of jews, his life was nearly perfect but when Jesus showed himself to Paul, he saw what God really wanted and that was to be declared to the world. If Jesus wasn't real and came to Paul in power, Paul would not have become the apostle to the gentiles. Wow, didn't God say in Isaiah that he would do a new thing and that the gentiles would accept him? If you could read Isaiah looking for the Son of Man instead of trying to push him out of the scripture your may be surprised at what the Lord has in store for you. With all my Love, I hope that God will fill your heart and show you the righteous path as you are very intelligent and could be so powerful for God if you would stop fighting with him. May God Bless you rabbi.

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

Jews were not able to teach Gentiles the Noahide laws because your coreligionists persecuted them.

[@tbishop4961]

@@aaronmusa234 sounds like jesus was warning about Muhammad

[@timhochstetler]

you seem to have an issue with the limitation of God. My God is unlimited, so he can be everywhere at all times and know all things in everyone's heart. So if God can be everywhere at all times, why can't he be in the flesh of a man? Jesus came to be the perfect sacrifice for the world, it is complete and muhammed is the the wolf in sheeps clothing. Does he not take the sayings of Jesus and tell you this is what Jesus meant, yet he has no miracles attributed to him and Jesus's ministry was filled with miracles. I think I will go with the one who came in power and might and follow him and trust that he took away my sins, past, present and future. @@aaronmusa234

[@tbishop4961]

@@aaronmusa234 have you actually read the parable?

[@paulc3307]

@@timhochstetler No he can't, as it is not written in the Hebrew scriptures. You show us where there are explicit texts in the Hebrew scriptures he was going to do what your false messiah is claimed to have done. He could've come as Ironman, claiming to be the messiah for all we care. We won't accept him, as it is not recorded in the Hebrew scriptures. Do you get that??

[@tbishop4961]

Ah.. you changed the title. I was lookin forward to a bible geology lesson. Would be the perfect time to introduce everyone to Crom

[@jesusisking5076]

People need to understand that the Messiah doesn’t have a biological father, then we’re starting in the right foot. Once that’s understood, the earthly father who adopted Him at the request of the most high God also has his lineage documented in Luke 3. Matthew 1 has Mary’s lineage, now both are documented and both go back to David. BOTH parents are descendants. Also, both parents are of the tribe of Judah. Joseph is in the line of David it still works just fine 😑 The two become one flesh even when they are only espoused before they came together and Joseph was meant to be his (symbolic) earth father for a reason. Mary was already his espoused so technically he still is from the line of David ..he just can’t be literally from a man’s seed because we carry that curse Adam left us all with.

[@hrvatskinoahid1048]

No temple, no Messiah.

[@User-x5s3x]

Absolutely and profoundly WRONG!!!!

[@Leyla_Bat_Murrah]

*Luke 14:26* If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life-such a person cannot be my disciple אִישׁ כִּי־יָבוֹא אֵלַי וְלֹא יִשְׂנָא אֶת־אָבִיו וְאֶת־אִמּוֹ וְאֶת־אִשְׁתּוֹ וְאֶת־בָּנָיו וְאֶת־אֶחָיו וְאֶת־אַחְיֹתָיו וְאַף גַּם־אֶת־נַפְשׁוֹ לֹא יוּכַל לִהְיוֹת תַּלְמִידִי

[@thatguy088]

ahhh yes, the christian bible was false because getting a book was difficult, yet this doesnt apply to the jewish bible? of course

[@booksquid856]

The Torah is Israel's constitution. Gonna make a lot more sense to have access to copies of that important library rather than to pulp fiction/propaganda of the Roman empire.

[@thatguy088]

@@booksquid856 perfect, the book the romans persecuted for centuries and had their followers burned alive is their... propaganda? do people even think before they type things out?

[@Leyla_Bat_Murrah]

*Matthew 10:34-35* 34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law 34 אַל־תַּחְשְׁבוּ כִּי בָאתִי לְהָטִיל שָׁלוֹם בָּאָרֶץ לֹא בָאתִי לְהָטִיל שָׁלוֹם כִּי אִם־חָרֶב: 35 כִּי בָאתִי לְהַפְרִיד בֵּין אִישׁ וְאָבִיו וּבֵין בַּת וְאִמָּהּ וּבֵין כַּלָּה וַחֲמוֹתָהּ

[@shirleyannelindberg1692]

Leyla, allow your ears to hear what your mouth is saying 😳 jesus didn’t fulfill even one of the requirements of the Moshiach 😤🙄

[@RyanDavis-zg2bw]

(Constantine) divine hellenized roman g-d sun hesus hours Krishna sanskirt for Christ fulfilled the prophecy of Zechariah 9:9 duh! The holy old babel polytheist doctrine of trinity says so! I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.”the New Testament, there are contradictions between the genealogies of Jesus given in the first chapter of Matthew and the third chapter of Luke. Both genealogies begin with Jesus' father, who is identified as Joseph (which is curious, given that Mary was supposedly impregnated by the Holy Ghost (no one figured those out yet lol)

[@RyanDavis-zg2bw]

Yeshua Bar Yosef Ossuary 80/503 "Yeshua bar Yosef” - “Jesus, Son of Joseph” It is the plainest of the ten ossuaries found in the tomb, a modest coffin, perhaps made in haste. Alarmingly, there is a large cross mark right next to the name “Jesus.” A cross, deliberately carved. The archaeologists, however, immediately and ever since, dismissed this as a mason’s mark. Besides, they say, Christians didn’t use crosses until the time of Constantine in the 4th century. This “Jesus, Son of Joseph” ossuary couldn’t belong to that Jesus, son of Joseph. Back in 1926, another “Jesus, son of Joseph” ossuary was discovered languishing in the basement of what is now the Rockefeller Museum-by none other that Eleazer Sukenik, the archaeologist famous for his 1948 discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls. The Hebrew University professor did not publicize his astonishing find until 1931 at a conference in Berlin. The news made headlines around the world. And then the world forgot all about it. Today, that same ossuary is on display at the Israel Museum. It is in no way connected with Jesus of Nazareth but instead is on display to send a message: don’t get excited if you find archaeological mention of any “Jesus.” The name is common.

[@dimakelly]

G-d doesn't need a "new" testament. He does not need a "do-over." He got it right the first time in the true testament. He didn't change His mind. Reply

[@emmiestacy]

For you to say the virgin birth isn't true, your denying your own Old Testament in the book of Isaiah which prophesied He would be born of a virgin.

[@u.y.3643]

The original Hebrew doesn’t say that at all.

[@psandbergnz]

You are such an ignoramus. There is no "virgin" birth prophecy in Is. 7:14 (you are basing yourself on a mistranslation of the Hebrew). Moreover, the passage relates to the Assyrian empire, which ceased to exist centuries before Jesus (note the Assyrian kings in the passage). The passage is not even messianic. No messiah is mentioned.

[@tshou520]

You're not relying on G-d, your relying on a xtian translators, and they're lying to you. Let me guess, you believe that alma means virgin, and you won't hear any different because the "Septuagint" says otherwise. So old and so boring. What can we say? xhristians are gonna xhristian. You don't want to know or believe the truth. You are perishing by your lack of knowledge. Learn Hebrew and break free of your idolatry.

[@susanlett9632]

The translation is completely wrong. You're trying to read the OT with a Christian belief system already in place. I was just like you for almost 30 years. I saw inconsistencies and I asked questions that couldn't be answered. I finally came to a knowledge of the Real G-d. I pray you do as well. Try reading the (OT) from a fresh perspective.

[@Matthew_Scan]

Rabbi Singer says it’s all idolatry if he thinks that fine , but he should be criticising Isaiah who says all this about the New Covenant and the Messiah

[@ScottyyyB96]

Yeshua was a descendant of David, and the genealogies are correct - go and check out Michael Rood (Rood Awakening). Hebrew manuscripts of Matthew show Joseph was the father of Mary (different from her husband Joseph).

[@psandbergnz]

There are no "Hebrew manuscripts"! There are only Hebrew translations from the Greek. The Greek is the original. There is no genealogy of Mary anywhere. Michael Rood is lying.

[@D18.21]

Where's Jesus's patrilineal geneology to David? Nowhere. Show us where in the Hebrew scriptures one can inherit geneology through adoption. According to Christianity, jesus was not the biological offspring of Joseph, and thus, has no tribal affiliation to King David. Where's inheritance of genealogy through adoption? Genesis 15 2And Abram said, "O Lord God, what will You give me, since I am going childless, and the steward of my household is Eliezer of Damascus?" 3And Abram said, "Behold, You have given me no children, 👉and behold, one of my household will inherit me."👈 4👉And behold, the word of the Lord came to him, saying, "This one will not inherit you👈, 👉but the one who will spring from your innards-he will inherit you."👈 Did Jesus spring from the innards of Joseph! NOPE!

[@u.y.3643]

He’s a descendant of a Roman soldier

[@psandbergnz]

@@D18.21 , yes, and there is no evidence that Jesus was even adopted! Adoption is a legal arrangement requiring evidence. There isn't any of that for Jesus.

[@psandbergnz]

@@u.y.3643 , quite possibly.

[@Leyla_Bat_Murrah]

*Romans 3:7* For if the truth of God has increased through my *LIE* to His glory, why am I also still judged as a sinner? כִּי אִם־בְּכָזְבִי תִּרְבֶּה וְתִפְרֹץ אֲמִתּוֹ שֶׁל אֱלֹקִים לִתְהִלָּה לוֹ לָמָּה אֶשָּׁפֵט עוֹד כְּחוֹטֵא

[@LL-ii3fy]

Jesus Christ Is coming very very very soon. Revelation 22:12-14 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

[@dannyboyakadandaman504furl9]

Really now ?

[@u.y.3643]

More than 2,000 years is very soon😂😅🤣 .!

[@paulawallace8784]

​@u.y.3643 Poor Jesus, he's running a bit late like the White Rabbit. : )

[@louishaywood4999]

He told his disciples he would be back before that generation passed. Can we now call him a liar?

[@paulawallace8784]

@user-mn9bh6kb7c Your Pagan Greco-Roman/Christian carnal idol of flesh Jesus is but a composite of a myriad of Pagan Greco-Roman Idols, PERSEUS the Virtuos Virgin born demigod, DIONYSUS the Water into Wine Miracle Maker and MITHRAS the Dying/Resurrecting idol who dies for the People, who raises the dead and heals the lame and the sick, whose Devotees Eat of the flesh and drink of the blood. Like his sidekick the Pagan Greco-Roman/Christian Devil with his lake of fire, they are but fabricated characters of Heathen Man, found only in the Greek Tall Tales of Heathen/NT and Joe Smith Jr's Book of Mormon, NOT the 24 Books of the Bible, the Torah/Tanakh.

[@veteran2x]

❤

[@sajsultan1839]

What about the Jewish messiah how long will he live on the earth on his coming to Jew's? Will he live forever until up too judgement day . And how long would that be ?