Abu Zubaydah: The Fake Terrorist America Tortured

[@brogansmith1342]

It's absolutely staggering, the cruelty we can inflict on our fellow human beings. That Guantanamo Bay is even open at all is a testament to that.

[@Trunkssj10]

Just the USA using the CIA, they make experiments to know wich method of t0rtvr3 works better

[@johnkesich8696]

Are we supposed to believe that the CIA didn't know they were peddling a lie when they revealed the home video allegedly found in Afghanistan of the obviously fake bin Laden talking about 9/11? Is it more likely that the CIA actually believed Zubaydah was a terrorist mastermind or that they picked him as a convenient scapegoat like the FBI did with Ivens for the anthrax attacks after their attempt to do so to Hatfill failed? Why no mention of the fact that bin Laden denied any involvement or knowledge of the attacks in the Pakistani press? And how did bin Laden's band of booze swilling, lap dancer fancying, 'Islamic extremist' CIA assets manage to achieve the impossible: "Stage 2 (1.75 to 4.0 seconds): gravitational acceleration (free fall)" -- NIST's WTC 7 FAQ Anyone?

[@rickb3650]

But never forget that we're the good guys and our military is beyond question. God is on our side.

[@inisr9204]

@@rickb3650 This better be sarcasm.

[@rickb3650]

@@inisr9204 Yes, it is. But tragically, it is also the belief of a significant minority, which I suppose, is why we have to ask one another just to be sure.

[@fuglong]

This is so disgusting and disturbing. How anyone could support a government that did and continues to do this is beyond me. Every single highschooler in America should learn about this and every other horrible thing the US government has done.

[@big_sea]

preach!

[@rednova6609]

It's disgusting to me how our governments treat people affected by their war of terror like they are just a statistic and strip them of their humanity. Most people in Afghanistan don't know what 9/11 is.

[@nobutternotes]

Critical Race Theory!

[@quangle-zi2oz]

The people know all about this. They just don't care!

[@Victor-tl4dk]

Especially a high schooler! Middle Schoolers should learn about this. Most high schoolers in the US are behind where they should be.

[@jordylont1879]

They tortured a man that became mentally ill due to violence and had worked on a camp that they themselves set up. That is an incredible level of disgusting

[@JeremySmith-wc4lh]

THE AUDACITY!

[@Human_01]

Agreed! And these COLONIZERS still call and pretend to be white, clean and pure! Also, please research 'narcissitic personality disorder' (NPD) / 'cluster-B'; and know that they are the 'root of all evil' (especially 'ESFJ/ESTJ-narcissits'; Myers-Briggs reference, look it up)! European 'ESFJ' are the worst personality type, and they are responsible for inventing 'racism' and colonization! It is in their neuro-psychology!! The are extremely 'manipulative' and often use 'looking pretty' to distract others from the witch's mind-games / mind-rape, e.g. gaslighting, playing the victim or damsel in distress, creating 'flying-monkeys', and paying others to attack (or at times kill) someone for her. When caught, she will use her minions as scapegoats. European ESFJ are notorious for this especially in a racist context, e.g. Elliott Till. Spread the word. ___________ #Save_Soil

[@francheskavega7251]

I just saw his documentary and it pissed me off

[@GhostSal]

And we are the “good guys” of the world

[@Channel-23s]

We got the wrong information and tried making something outta nothing

[@kazmark_gl8652]

I distinctly remember my teacher in Middle School once attempted to justify the torture of these guys as "revenge for all the people killed on 9/11" and because they had killed so many of "our people" we were allowed to torture them. I remember I raised my hand and asked "but aren't we supposed to be better then the bad guys?"

[@alex0_graham]

Exactly. Solidarity comrade.

[@beangobernador]

school system sucks

[@MarkAvo]

We’re told the US is the shining city on the hill but when it takes hard work and hard principles to support that belief it’s astonishing how quickly many abandon the concept.

[@azn3000]

"Are we the baddies?"

[@somkeshav4143]

It’s even made worse once you realize that the culprits who did 9/11 were once funded by the US many decades prior. Oh the irony.

[@condakilla]

They actually just grabbed some random guy, said he was the biggest bad guy, and tortured him for 20 years to justify expanding their conflicts and starting new ones. Actually truly evil. Natzee-level evil.

[@quangle-zi2oz]

And he isn't the only one. I'm sure about that !

[@finlanderxx]

Didn't they just drone some families yesterday and Biden was boasting about it on news conference how they got biggest bad guy as of yet

[@tesso.6193]

@@finlanderxx 13 dead, 6 children, 4 women. Touted as a "success".

[@theunbeatable6598]

And he's still imprisoned

[@GhostSal]

And we are the “good guys” that the world only hàtés because of our “freedom”. 🤷‍♂️

[@ComradeCatpurrnicus]

Absolutely sickening, everyone involved in this should be tried for crimes against humanity.

[@dr.zoidberg8666]

@No SMOrcing No empire rules forever.

[@Tozoz]

True, but the US is starting to paint amnesty international and the humans right watchs as a terrorist organisation now instead.

[@dr.zoidberg8666]

@No SMOrcing It's not gonna be centuries. I'd bet my history degree on it. Nothing ever happens exactly the same way, but patterns do present themselves in history... and in modern/postmodern history, once a nation or an empire reaches this point, there are 4 basic paths it can take: reactionary coup, socialist revolution, social democratic reform, or disintegration (collapse, civil war, secession, foreign invasion, vassalization, etc.) None of these things take centuries once a nation has reached the material conditions that the US is presenting. Edit: Even if the worst happened & a fascist regime is established, the majority of fascist regimes don't last longer than 5 years -- & _no_ fascist regime that I'm aware of has ever survived the death of its original dictator.

[@juliusbeutler7090]

Let's start with Bush. "You're not gonna let me lose face on this, are you?" Absolutely disgusting

[@manifesttruth7645]

@@juliusbeutler7090 took the words right out of my mouth. That man is disgusting. His father was no better considering he claimed to know about the Kennedy assassination a day before the assassination happened when he was director of the CIA in the 60's

[@ash_sunday]

Dismantle and declassify the CIA. These people need to face justice.

[@Blaqjaqshellaq]

One of President Truman's many mistakes was to give the CIA a mandate for "covert operations," which is incompatible with the rule of law.

[@Happy_Shopper]

don't imagine that happening any time soon.

[@justdev8965]

How?! It's like an ant trying to take on a lion!

[@ash_sunday]

@@justdev8965 ants together strong

[@Josep_Hernandez_Lujan]

JFK was planning to do just that...

[@Fedrowreview]

Abu Zubaydah was just one of many innocents caught up in the war on terror. We threw Muslims into Guantánamo Bay for 20 years to suffer the same treatment as Zubaydah simply because they were wearing a certain type of watch (common in the middle east) that Al Queada would use to time bombs. Prisoners in Abu Ghraib prison were turned into lightbulbs, forced to masturbate in front of US soldiers, threatened with poisonous snakes and trained military dogs, beaten and short shackled daily, etc. Most punishment anyone faced was a seven year jail sentence. Since the end of WWII the American military has been nothing but a force of evil and destruction abroad. Thank you for covering this Gravel Institute, and May everyone hurt by the terroristic arms of Uncle Sam live and Rest In Peace.

[@quangle-zi2oz]

They still refuse to let the man go. It's so evil. !

[@yeetyeetonthestreet-colinm1186]

lightbulb ? 😯

[@Channel-23s]

Not that bad tbh compared to isis and the taliban torture is a lot less worst than death by beheading and bombings

[@Fafnd]

@@Channel-23s take your whataboutism back to hell with you.

[@voxomnes9537]

@@Channel-23s What is wrong with you?

[@strawberrychaos73]

"Are we the baddies?" Yes, yes we are. This is horrendous and heartbreaking. Thank you for getting this information out there. It's way past time this Empire fell.

[@Praisethesunson]

Can't rule a global empire by being good.

[@Fafnd]

@@Praisethesunson Huh funny I thought the USA was for "democracy" maybe you never should have had an "empire" to begin with.

[@PistonAvatarGuy]

If the US falls, China will rise and will be far, FAR worse than the US ever was. The US doesn't need to fall, it needs to improve itself.

[@redElim]

@@PistonAvatarGuy I don't see a single reason why that would be. The US is and always was more totalitarian and fascistic than the PRC. Also China doesn't intend to become a world police and "leader of the free world". If you knew anything about chinese history, it wouldn't come as a surprise to you that the chinese can leave the world be while still being technologically and economically more advanced.

[@PistonAvatarGuy]

@@redElim You're completely delusional and have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

[@hayestaylor97]

Everyone involved in that torture should be in jail and he should be provided anything he needs to get better. The CIA is disgusting.

[@strawberrychaos73]

Agreed... to the highest levels of government, including Bush and Cheney. It boils my blood that those assholes are allowed to live out the rest of their days in peace.

[@EresTontoE]

There is absolutely no "getting better" from something like this, zero chance.

[@hussain6469]

Jail is too nice for them, they should be tortured over this...

[@smith2354]

Just look up Abu Ghraib prison, there's no justice for the atrocities America commits throughout the globe.

[@waspoppin4784]

@@hussain6469 no, torturing them wouldn’t make this situation better. Don’t be like the CIA, don’t torture people. But they do need to go to prison at least.

[@willt.9654]

This is one of you guys’ best pieces yet. The contrast between Bush’s “Don’t let me lose face on this” comment and his cute little dance on Ellen is so vile.

[@harrywoodman2988]

I actually don't put the whole blame on Bush, he shares the blame with the war monger Neo-cons. Don't forget all the chicken hawks he was surrounded with like Cheney and Rumsfeld... old men more than eager to send young men to death on their own side, guess they viewed the other side as something like animals.

[@renatocorvaro6924]

The US has always been big on war crimes. This is very unsurprising. Keep up the good work Gravel.

[@pavarottiaardvark3431]

I don't care what part of the world you are in, if you go "hey I'm offering 10 million dollars for this mysterious guy", they are going to hand you SOMEONE. It's a terrible was to incentivise.

[@antonioscendrategattico2302]

It's these guys' supposed entire job to know this sort of shit and yet... they really just didn't care.

[@Blaqjaqshellaq]

They put up that bounty because they wanted to imprison and torture SOMEONE!

[@antonioscendrategattico2302]

@@Blaqjaqshellaq It's honestly most likely that some fucking apparatchik just thought it'd look good on their resume if he caught someone. People had horrific things done to them just to advance some fuckhead's careers.

[@SatanasExMachina]

I honestly believe that with there being a desperate need for a Scapegoat to appease the masses that the CIA went about it in this manner for the precise reason that they were guaranteed to be handed someone. Anyone. They could have very well known all of this information about the man before they took custody of him, and still would have done the exact same thing only been more careful to ensure no one else ever came by the evidence of his innocence. The CIAs lifeblood is acquisition of information and dissemination of false Intel. "Two things only the people actually desire-bread and games."-Juvenal

[@GhostSal]

And no matter who you are once you are subjected to their “hospitality” you will definitely break and say anything they want you to. So having the “right” guy won’t matter, because once they get you to confess (which everyone will once broken) they always have the “right” guy.

[@nelsonth]

the definition of terror should include such acts of state violence as well

[@solgato5186]

USA opposes this, go figure

[@caijones156]

ill hear people justify the us saying that terrorists don't fall under the protection of the Geneva convention. by that logic carpet bombing the states would be ok, their the biggest terrorist organisation on earth. or at least on par with china.

[@jdawg443]

Obama got into office and was like "hey uh let's uhhh close gitmo" and congress was like "no," and Obama was like "okay" and then it was never a political issue ever again.

[@GhostSal]

When asked about looking into all this (wàr-crímeś), he also said we as a country needed to move forward and not look back. I guaranteed someone made sure he understood his place in government wasn’t what he thought it was and let him know who was really in charge.

[@kenosabi]

Obomber was just as bad as Bush. He took 2 conflicts and made them 6-7. He created a modern day slave market in Libya through destabilization. He dropped so many bombs we ran out of bombs. Can you imagine that for a second? Fu*k that guy. Dude was like a total lullaby to the left. He just...put em to sleep. That's where I started to break with party lines. Realizing both were just the same monster.

[@roedagardet]

What an awful story, really goes to show how little the CIA actually cares about human life

[@Praisethesunson]

Has the CIA ever even pretended to care about human life?

[@nitrologly]

@@Praisethesunson When it serves them, like with the Uyghurs for example.

[@allthelittleworms]

@@nitrologly yep, big facts. if they were any more blatantly anti-human people would be blowing up their buildings.

[@GhostSal]

This doesn’t even scratch the surface, if you haven’t looked it to it you might not want to, it will forever change your perception of the “good guys”.

[@jad2290]

@@GhostSal Are you an American?

[@ARandomSpace]

Even if Zubaydah was somehow not innocent, it does not justify the years of tortue he was subjected to. Nobody deserves that. Torture is wrong.

[@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356]

If he was a jihadist that was part of 911, he'd deserve it and more

[@TheDarkLord648]

No one, no matter what they did, deserves to be tortured

[@saifuddinmakati843]

@@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 i love how liberals are when they talk about prison and justice reform, they'll always uphold principles of psychological therapy, and ideals of reforming and integrating people into society without violence. But when it comes to foreign criminals they suddenly turn into the fking gestapo. Torturing criminals wouldn't bring you peace. Nor would invading their countries. Recognize your condition in theirs. The imperialist system that exploits you at home is the same one that invades their homelands.

[@Gotti69420]

@@TheDarkLord648 Bush does

[@thinker6293]

@@Gotti69420 a million times over

[@uprightape100]

"Oopsie" describes nearly all CIA ops if you look closely enough.

[@solgato5186]

that "oopsie" is a lie kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYCpZmmtjrmfZ9k

[@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356]

Like what?

[@breadandroses7]

Gravel always knows how to make me cry. This is why I’m a patreon member. Keep up the amazing work! Amazed you guys haven’t been kicked off KZbin yet

[@swissbreeze]

Abu is the reason millions have died. He’s a coward.

[@owenc7115]

@@swissbreeze How many licks does it take to get to the center of a bootsie pop?

[@paranoikoc]

@@swissbreeze??? The CIA proved his innocence before he was tortured and knew 100% what he was saying was fabricated, yet the almighty capitalists in the US were still blood thirsty, or rather, wanted an excuse to invade the Middle East for oil. Wtf are you talking about?

[@huntermead859]

@@swissbreeze Yeah, man, the fact that he lied after being tortured by foreign agents for months was his fault, not the fault of the US Government

[@jad2290]

Rulling off emotion .. I see

[@GameVeteran86]

I’m not a religious person, but I hope that if there is a hell, that there is a special place there for the entire Bush administration.

[@focumQuarium]

Don't worry about Bushes. Worry about whole American people who keep financing these atrocities, who are complacent with their silence. God damn such a country, and He will no doubt, sooner or later!

[@abidakhamisa8008]

O don't worry there is a hell just for them and what Abu went through will be picnic to what they will go through inshallah

[@eyyy2271]

Hey, Gravel Institute, could you talk about how Car Centric Urban Planning destroys the very fabric of society in this country, and how it destroys momentum for political movements?

[@ianreilly9727]

This climate town video is pretty great kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYDXpammn6-pd9E

[@nedludd7622]

It's been done.

[@eyyy2271]

@@nedludd7622 link?

[@nedludd7622]

@@eyyy2271 Three clicks on a search engine. I do not spoon feed lazy people.

[@solgato5186]

@@nedludd7622 prove you aren't making it up

[@randommodnar7141]

I had no clue just how innocent this man was

[@FoxMacLeod2501]

Just as it has always been, convincing a citizenry of the reality that, it turns out, _they/we_ are, in fact, The Bad Guys, is critical... yet nigh impossible. No matter how far away the battlefields are, or how unethical and inhumane the fighting itself becomes, _every_ soldier (with only rare and insignificant exception), on both sides of every war, genuinely believes themselves a righteous warrior; that _they're_ the ones defending against unjust attack! The average soldier, even those serving the vast majority of truly despicable regimes, believe they are standing in the path of a clear & present danger to their homes and loved ones. People don't generally do evil things unless they believe it's the right thing to do. Convincing soldiers they're on the right side is the only way to get them to go to the ends of the Earth to fight wars, to willingly _give their lives,_ for the imperialism and profiteering of the people at the top. Ironically, when pumped full of these lies, and convinced of the importance of their duty -- *_defending_* the just, honorable, and righteous from the designs of the truly wicked -- that's why they feel justified, at least in the moment, to visit acts of unthinkable malice and evil upon the innocent people who have been demonized and dehumanized at every turn. That's what they repeated to all our brave boys and girls in Afghanistan and Iraq, not to mention Vietnam: "you have been shipped halfway around the world _in the self-defense of America!"_ _We_ are, and have long been, The Bad Guys. Not just vilified competition to Russia and China, but truly evil oppressors to peoples around the world who dare to have a successful socialist government. It has been painful to come to terms with, but following the evidence and the truth would have led me nowhere else. When I learned about the things done in furtherance of American interests, I concluded that, for example, to deny American sovereignty over any resource demanded (by the officials who always end up having long been in the jacket pockets of people showcasing the worst behaviors capitalism inherently fosters, by the way), even if it does not belong to or is not owed to the United States, is to be destroyed and forever portrayed as having been in the wrong. We are the bad guys.

[@user-Erimej]

As a Russian, I agree with You. I always think that Russia is in a right path,no matter how many times some Westerners tried to convince Me

[@user-Erimej]

@@mogensgallardo3288 I know,but Russians don't want to live another Yoke but this time under American Imperialism

[@jaggillar6680]

We are one world. This true story is so sad and shameful.

[@xymaryai8283]

"Are we the baddies?"

[@user-Erimej]

@@xymaryai8283 in a Non-Western perspective yes. The Muslims & most of East Asians had been endured Western Imperialism ever since 19th century when even The United States of America involved with Western European Great Powers to turn Asia & other areas into Their Colonial holdings when They mining ALL of It's wealth from unfortunate Muslim & Asian peoples. That's how The West had so much wealth

[@ochaco31]

This story sent chills down my spine...

[@seandawson5899]

The Gravel Institute give me so much insight to the world around me and before me.

[@ChrisSudlik]

Monsters are dangerous, on your side or others. Gina Haspell's rightful place is prison, has always been. I was disgusted at her rise to head of the CIA, she undoubtedly has no qualms about operating on US soil, violating US and international law, for her personal goals and aims regardless of moral concerns.

[@flash_flood_area]

But, but... I heard that everything would be so much better if we simply put more women into positions of power

[@jonnysac77]

To be fair, the CIA is an awful terror group so it's fitting for someone truly horrible to lead them

[@oldishandwoke-ish1181]

@@flash_flood_area Ha!

[@Jakster840]

What can be done to stop this and what can we do to hold the people who perpetrate these crimes against humanity accountable? Voting is not enough.

[@ericsemrow231]

That's what always gets me about these stories. They're good at pointing out what's wrong but leave you feeling like there's no solution.

[@Evannnnnnnn2]

Strikes

[@Urheimat9]

@@ericsemrow231 Countering nationalist propaganda, which is what they are doing here, is part of the solution.

[@Praisethesunson]

Obviously collective action by the population to have that unaccountable branch of the U.S imperial government brought to heel. Failing that. You could always as an individual head to Langley with some basic artillery and [redacted].

[@ericsemrow231]

@@Praisethesunson But, like, what does that mean? Collective action. I'm not a collective. What can _I_ do? I totally support a bunch of the things they talk about here but, to me, it just underscores how powerless one (non-billionaire) person is. It's depressing.

[@andrzejcelinski1]

Damn all those involved in Abu's torture and imprisonment. I am beyond words. Obviously Abu should be freed immediately. Thank you to the Gravel Institute for sharing this story. These stories cannot be swept under the rug; 'evil triumphs when good people stand by and do nothing'

[@lukejohnson6415]

This is heart breaking I never expected to cry watching one of these videos

[@DheerajReddyPailla]

This is incredibly powerful. Absolutely love Ismael's narration, but what a gut wrenching story.

[@richarddeese1991]

Gee, I can't possibly imagine why people in other countries might resent America. We're so nice. [?!?!?!?] tavi.

[@tortellinifettuccine]

If it makes it any better, I'm French and here as well as most of Europe, everyone likes Americans, we just absolutely despise your corrupt government and many large monopolies. I've no doubt if Americans fought back against their government that other nations would support them.

[@richarddeese1991]

@@tortellinifettuccine We may have to soon, but it won't be pretty. tavi.

[@Human_01]

Agreed! Also, please research 'narcissitic personality disorder' (NPD) / 'cluster-B'; and know that they are the 'root of all evil' (especially 'ESFJ/ESTJ-narcissits'; Myers-Briggs reference, look it up)! European 'ESFJ' are the worst personality type, and they are responsible for inventing 'racism' and colonization! It is in their neuro-psychology!! The are extremely 'manipulative' and often use 'looking pretty' to distract others from the witch's mind-games / mind-rape, e.g. gaslighting, playing the victim or damsel in distress, creating 'flying-monkeys', and paying others to attack (or at times kill) someone for her. When caught, she will use her minions as scapegoats. European ESFJ are notorious for this especially in a racist context, e.g. Elliott Till. ISFP (and ESFP) are the most complicit, narcissitic-enablers. ISFP also tend to be 'oblivious-codependants' (look up the definition). This is why they end up in narcissitic relationship and breed with narcissits - risking producing more. All of these personality types are emotionally-disturbed; combined with relatively low intelligence (limited to reciting government academics, and manipulation in the case of ESFJ) this is the source of their problem causing behaviour, psychology, impact on society, as well as misguided mobs/flash mobs, controlled by ESFJ/narcissits. 'ISFP' and ESFP are typical morons who are recruited into cults. ISFP are also secretly hedonistic and literally have the inner mind of a child, hence their secrecy behaviour. They are more evil than they realise. Lastly, Judas-Iscariot is a classic ISFP. His 'oblivious-codependant' psychology/madness, is what lead him to betray Jesus. He just ignored the reality of what he was doing, and continued to fixate on the "reward" / carrot being dangled in front of him. ISFP factually have little humanity (ESFJ; the evil leader and worst, and ESFP are the secondary grunt). All these evil, unsustainable personality types are among the most common. So you should know why humanity is in the case it is in, and why history reflects these cancerous personality types legacy! I bet Hitler's hate for Jews was triggered by a ESFJ-Jew. ESFJ are notorious for trying to make others jealous and creating drama via cheating, and starting smear campaign. They are true sadist. ISFP/ESFP gunts empower and support them. Evil personality: ESFJ, ESTJ [Secretly] Evil and narcissit-friendly gunts: ISFP, ESFP. Spread the word! Thank you. ___________ #Save_Soil

[@rexx9496]

And we have the audacity to stand on our high horse and preach to other countries about human rights. Disgusting.

[@urbroz]

This is so horrific, thank you for making this video

[@tvison1616]

once the gov learned they were wrong they should have released him but I supposed they were afraid of him telling his story to the rest of us so they've kept him locked up.

[@Fafnd]

Not only that Bush didn't want to be embarrassed by being called a liar in public. The waste of meat.

[@anthony7960]

What are we doing? How can we be so evil? How can we exist in a country and in a world so sick and twisted to its core? This really shook me.

[@fistpump64]

you have to look through its history to keep wealthy capitalist happy out country would be the most evil thing to ever exist.

[@Human_01]

Agreed! Also, please research 'narcissitic personality disorder' (NPD) / 'cluster-B'; and know that they are the 'root of all evil' (especially 'ESFJ/ESTJ-narcissits'; Myers-Briggs reference, look it up)! European 'ESFJ' are the worst personality type, and they are responsible for inventing 'racism' and colonization! It is in their neuro-psychology!! The are extremely 'manipulative' and often use 'looking pretty' to distract others from the witch's mind-games / mind-rape, e.g. gaslighting, playing the victim or damsel in distress, creating 'flying-monkeys', and paying others to attack (or at times kill) someone for her. When caught, she will use her minions as scapegoats. European ESFJ are notorious for this especially in a racist context, e.g. Elliott Till. Spread the word. ___________ #Save_Soil

[@realtime4698]

Apac is doing all these war . Israeli Zionist are involved in all us war and influence

[@wraithwrecker_]

One of the best videos from Gravel in a while. Keep up the good work.

[@freedomstar3930]

May God help this poor man and may he one day be reunited with his loving mother.

[@user-Erimej]

I agree. Even if His a Muslim,He deserves forgiveness from His God too

[@quangle-zi2oz]

I don't know,man. The way I see . They won't let him get out of there alive !

[@justdev8965]

Oh yeah! God! He really looked after him! Why don't we just ban the stupid ass word! The most idiotic concept that humans ever came up with is this "God" idea. What a waste!!!

[@user-Erimej]

@@justdev8965 are you crazy? Than did You worshipping Satan??

[@justdev8965]

@@user-Erimej 🤣🤣🤣 is there anything inside that skull of yours?

[@LexYeen]

The things that we can do to others when we dehumanize them are, in a word, horrifying. Thanks, Gravel Institute.

[@thirdpedalnirvana]

How long is it going to take Humanity to realize that torture does not get prisoners to spill sensitive information. All it does is get them to say whatever they think their interrogator wants to hear

[@justdev8965]

I believe firmly that someone who is capable of torture is not capable of thinking. At all!

[@waltmansan520]

and that is the real reason for its use

[@grants5399]

torture does not get useful information. we knew this in the 60s (most likely earlier). the tortured will say anything they think the torturers want to hear. also bullshit that they completely broke this man, and still thought he was "holding back" like some kind of superhuman commando.

[@charlee_hotel]

A somewhat parallel case to this was the recent death of (retired) Major Ian Fishback, the military officer who was the whistle-blower of these sort of things. His last days were horrible (nearly homeless in the adult foster care system) as well... and all because *HE* alerted us of what the US government was doing to the likes of this poor gentleman.

[@flash_flood_area]

Thank you for shedding light on this horrific crime. It's so wretched to know that our country is run by evil people who do things like this in our name

[@Quixote3]

I wake up some mornings and think, my god, no amount of money or power is worth becoming an accessory to the crimes of the world we live in.

[@user-wv5gv3dw5u]

The sad part is that I know I could show this to my parents and they'd still say it was justified

[@justdev8965]

I feel your pain. Baby boomers are ignorant to a dumbfounding degree. They believe everything the TV has told them. And I do mean EVERYTHING!

[@rexx9496]

Try asking your parents what if tomorrow when they woke up they found that they had traded places with him. How would they feel then?

[@thebigdawgj]

It was. He was a mudslide.

[@_GrandZeno]

disowen them and then say its justified

[@bananaz572171]

When they're *so sure* that you're the person they're looking for, how do you prove your innocence?? You can say you don't know anything, but your captors will only believe you're lying to in order to hide things. This is absolute madness. This man has done *nothing* wrong and get he's still imprisoned in that horrible place. Tortured and imprisoned all so that fucking idiot "wouldn't lose face."

[@b1646717]

I still don't understand why we are not loved unanimously around the world.

[@justdev8965]

It's a stumper!

[@jenm1]

I feel sick. I can’t imagine how this young man must feel. It’s sickening

[@Tom-it6gi]

"I said he was important... You're not going to let me lose face on this, are you?" Given what he was talking about, that's one of the worst Bush quotes I've heard, and I didn't know of it until just now.

[@Dan-ud8hz]

That line from his diary about offending his mother lands close to home.

[@frequentlycynical642]

Growing up in the 1950's and 1960's I was fully indoctrinated on our superior nation. I went to Israel and Egypt on business about 1983. When I returned to Kennedy, I would have kissed the ground if I could have. Today, I'd love to leave America. But I'm old with no reason for an other nation to take me. I have tadpoles and grand-tadpoles here. I see today that the Republican party pronounced the January 6th insurrection "political discourse." Sheer insanity. American democracy is on its last days, I fear.

[@flakkkk]

do you have any advice for the youngsters

[@luckarm5481]

I’m Egyptian and i honestly think America has always been like this and way worse, from the horrible acts of slavery and oppression throughout its entire history to spreading terrorism throughout the middle east. America and American democracy has always been like this.

[@frequentlycynical642]

@@luckarm5481 With all respect, no America has NOT always "been like this." Problems, issues, sure. Many resolved over time. Sometimes with blood. I'm 75, I used to teach history. Trust me, this is a phase for which there is no precedent.

[@aaronbecker5617]

And we have the nerve to wonder why so many hate us

[@heatherclark9405]

We say power corrupts. We are the most powerful nation in the world. And yet most Americans would never believe that our power has violently corrupted us.

[@brixton9655]

Quote from his co-counselor; "Partly as a result of injuries he suffered while he was fighting the communists in Afghanistan, partly as a result of how those injuries were exacerbated by the CIA and partly as a result of his extended isolation, Zubaydah's mental grasp is slipping away. Today, he suffers blinding headaches and has permanent brain damage. He has an excruciating sensitivity to sounds, hearing what others do not. The slightest noise drives him nearly insane. In the last two years alone, he has experienced about 200 seizures. Already, he cannot picture his mother's face or recall his father's name. Gradually, his past, like his future, eludes him."

[@nixiontm]

He will have a special place in Heaven

[@batskink533]

Adam Curtis does a fantastic job presenting the gut wrenching details of his suffering during a haze of confusion where he struggled to put togetehr just how he had arrived in cia custody in the first place.

[@FalcFalcFalcFalc]

This is just straight up sad.

[@celestialdancer6293]

It's so freaking wild to me that torture seems to always only be used against people that don't actually deserve it, while the most horrible people on earth get off scot-free, they're even praised for it.

[@Nemo_Anom]

The fact that certain people are still alive utterly astounds me. If there were any justice in the world, certain people would have been brought to justice, along with their families. But, there is no justice in the world, and these are idle hypothetical musings.

[@justdev8965]

Yes!!!

[@Caero_]

Downloading this incase it gets taken down or privated 👍

[@kevintewey1157]

Have you confirm this happening?

[@kevintewey1157]

I've even had videos taken down I thought it was something that a viewer could do but I don't think they have that power And it came right after a big debate in the comment section

[@Yingjie100]

wait, why do you think it would get taken down? i'm confused.

[@Caero_]

@@kevintewey1157 Their video about China becoming rich & Russia becoming poor became private

[@Caero_]

@@Yingjie100 Their video about China getting rich & Russia getting poor got privated.

[@divyanshd3969]

Wow, that shook me a little. Let this man be free and provide him whatever he needs to rehabilitate.

[@christopherdavidson8028]

Bone-chilling. Thank you for telling his story.

[@quangle-zi2oz]

How Abu Zubaydah managed to survive several shots to the head is beyond my imagination and yet his ordeal hadn't yet to begin. Poor man !

[@christopherantonio3612]

The fact that those villains are still working for the CIA and free is ridiculous. The US has no moral standing in this world.

[@I_havea_Doubt]

This is Called " CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY " .

[@WhiteGuyTellNoLies]

Wow just wow! This is sickening! Who holds Gina accountable? I wonder if these individuals believe in God?

[@solgato5186]

have you seen the god they believe in?

[@Evannnnnnnn2]

I donet believe in god but I hope he’ll exists so these people can suffer

[@TheOrangeMamba]

Not only do they believe in God, but they try to use it to justify these sick acts.

[@quangle-zi2oz]

They still sleeps well every night. It's safe to say they don't believe in anything !

[@lamarreerickson3502]

Keep it up Gravel. Love this Chanel !!!

[@burnt-reynolds]

How does one not feel unadulterated rage about this?

[@endTHEhegemony_Today]

That is so cruel. It is terrible that not wanting to be perceived as wrong can drive a government to torture a possobly innocent man that long. 🖤💜💙💚💙💜🖤 Thank you for making this piece. I was too young to know what went on while it was girst happening. I appreciate the information. That Poor man, and the countless others being treated this way... it makes me so sad. Much love for making this information available!!!

[@oldskyggen2423]

"The critical work of helping protect our country, our people, and our way of life." --Gina Haspel Said without a tinge of irony.

[@hughquigley5337]

I can’t even describe how evil this is. The US government should free him, pay for his medical bills, and give him a life of luxury. That would maybe scratch the surface on atoning for this gravely evil act. Oh my God.

[@wrenbd4015]

god how am I supposed to continue on knowing this tragic story and that he's still kept in detention? get this man some extreme help and his mother

[@maxtornogood]

If that kind of torture doesn't break a man I don't know what will, absolutely brutal!

[@moosesandmeese969]

I seriously cried over this video. I never thought a youtube video would break me For nearly 20 years, this man has been tortured by the US government over a political campaign, despite having no involvement in terrorist activity. This is the government I live under

[@ataraxia7439]

There are no words. We have to find a way to ensure this can't continue.

[@hiddencryptid]

The stupidly rich will always find a way to keep the money flowing in the form of "defense spending". See: Ukraine, our new proxy war of the time. But remember, they will also divide, torture, jail, and kill us, to keep that wealth. but you probably knew that...

[@kingtrilly266]

May Allah make it easy for him ameen

[@aureliangepu636]

Ameen mi brother innocent people like him will go straight to jannah

[@yaqubahmed2395]

My heart was bleeding while listening to the disturbing description of horrendous amount torture that wat put to this innocent guy. I can't help thanking Gravel Institute for covering these clandestine story and give them a voice.

[@eakherenow]

This is who we are, this is what we allow, what we don't bother to know.Thank you for putting this truth out but anyone watching is already with you and we'll never get 60% of the population to look for the truth.

[@davitdavid7165]

This is why it is important to increace transparancy and have actually free journalism.

[@paranoikoc]

Love the vids! It's always good to learn about the REAL enemy

[@Zift_Ylrhavic_Resfear]

Thanks for the video

[@realtijuana5998]

« Toute nation a le gouvernement qu'elle mérite. » - Joseph de Maistre, 1857

[@JP-sm4cs]

I would love it if you guys made a channel for the UK and/or Europe!

[@burnindownthehouse]

Sad. Very sad, indeed. They probably knew right away that he knew of no useful information whatsoever, but they decided to keep him there and torture him for their own sadistic purposes. The sick people who tortured him got a high out of doing it day after day. They just wanted to watch a human being suffer so they could get their kicks from it. It was a very sick form of fun for them. Now he is still imprisoned because the CIA is afraid that he might tell people what happened to him if he were freed. In other words, they're keeping the guy locked up for life just to avoid a public relations mess. Humanity at its worst.

[@Giorgio825]

Thanks for your work.

[@user-mh4wl1zc9i]

Fantastic work. Do a piece on Steven Donziger next.

[@JeremySmith-wc4lh]

This video is incredibly important journalism

[@anikhanj]

Words cannot describe how ashamed I am.

[@mike7815]

phenomenal piece.

[@CestJordan]

And the US has the balls to boycott the Beijing Olympics because of “Chinese crimes against humanity.” Easy to say when you never look in a mirror.

[@deezznuts5396]

Well just cause America is bad doesn’t mean China isn’t. Chinas crimes are also horrible.

[@MasterCombine]

@Deez Nuts China hasn’t committed a fraction of the crimes against humanity that the US has.

[@Bramble20322]

@@deezznuts5396 Yeah, lets believe what america has to say about americas #1 enermy of the moment. Jesus fuck watch this video again.

[@matthewgagnon9426]

@@Bramble20322 The US *and* China can both be bad. There is no excuse for the Tienanmen Square Massacre in the past, nor is there an excuse for the Uigher concentration camps. Don't be a rube who figures out that one country uses propaganda and then immediately buy *another* country's propaganda.

[@deezznuts5396]

@@matthewgagnon9426 this dude thinks that’s just western propaganda bro. You cannot levy any criticism of China that he will believe is real.

[@Ianpact]

Thank you.

[@dc2guy2]

Sorry I can't get over the part where he already survived having shrapnel from an earlier incident lodged in his brain, then being shot in the head not once but several times during the raid and again surviving?!?! How many lives does this guy have???

[@twt000]

Gravel deserves 1 million Subs.

[@SulaimanamialuS]

It's funny/sad how brutal barbarism can be covered with a nice suit. "Civilized society"

[@JamEngulfer]

I knew vague pieces of this, but put together in a cohesive timeline reveals how horrifying it really was. No government should be allowed to do something like that.

[@Eltrio2]

Just when I thought I was too jaded to be affected by CIA torture, they somehow found a way to make me sick. What the actual fuck?

[@andrewmcknight1194]

You guys are excellent. To hell with Prager. I hope you manage to keep up the good work and keep putting these videos out. I am going to watch them all. Good luck winning the information war. I am sure it is quite a struggle.

[@DerekSpeareDSD]

If knowing this one fact doesn't make you ashamed of being an "american" (whatever that is), then there is no hope for you or this nation.

[@hiddencryptid]

We aren't americans, we are serfs.

[@nusratjesi1562]

This is so disturbing that people can destroy somebody's life and easily get away with it. "The country of justice" actually failed the justice just to prove a wrong sentence right. I'm nauseated of disgust .

[@murraymadness4674]

We need to do some enhanced interrogation of Gina Haspel to see what she knows and has hidden. When there is no responsibility, people can do anything, look at examples all over history.

[@kristinmeyer489]

I'm ashamed of the actions of many in my country.

[@rjones197]

When we march, I'll have already been here. Public civil disobedience, not participating in the capital economy,, and hard lining help to those who need it. I know Im done fore, but my daughter has a chance. Lets change this.