AC5/ACZ - some examples of unused dialogue data

[@death_the_d0g]

*TIMESTAMPS:* ACZ ------ 0:00 - Allied troops using signs/countersigns referencing past Ace Combat characters as an easter egg (Flicker of Hope) 1:16 - Pixy's freakout during the bombing of Hoffnung (The Inferno) 1:55 - PJ mentions his girlfriend (Lying in Deceit) 2:40 - Ruchs Transport Unit apparently was supposed to join AWWNB (The Valley of Kings) 3:07 - Pixy extra lines that go unused (ZERO) AC5 ------ 3:20 - Rescue crew team reaction and efforts to the gas attack unleashed on Bana City (Reprisal) 3:56 - Hamilton's death scream (ACES) 4:20 - Ashley Bernitz /Grabacr 1 generic dogfight lines (The Unsung War) 5:35 - Oured citizens witnessing the fall of the SOLG and cheering for the Razgriz's efforts to stop it aswell talking about how the legend became true (The Unsung War) 6:19 - Razgriz Squadron's reflections during their final sortie (The Unsung War)

[@Spiegelgeist]

Thanks for uploading these (and for your other uploads as well) I hope you and your loved ones have a safe, happy, and healthy 2022! :)

[@ACSEisvogel]

Any difference in Grimm's and Nagase's lines if you reply "No" to them? Fantastic video by the way, it really made me get surprised and emotional even after all this time without playing Ace Combat. And I'm hard to impress in that way.

[@death_the_d0g]

@@ACSEisvogel Forgot to mention that the lines that play after you answer YES to their questions are the ones that would play if you choose to answer NO instead. (ie Grimm: "Huh? me?..." is the NO answer). I had to slap both replies one after another to so the video doesn't go beyond the 2:20 minute mark, which is the length limit for videos on Twitter and where I originally uploaded it.

[@ACSEisvogel]

@@death_the_d0g Oh I see it now. Thanks for the clarification!

[@bonglambitco80]

Looks like A Belkan Army Platoon knows Mobius 1

[@loneelementalcross]

The Pixy part...hits hard. Shows how powerful Hoffnung itself was.

[@kraosdadafusfus8034]

Pixy is Belkan. From what used to be South Belka, in fact. He lost his family and became an orphan during a prior war with the Oseans, who razed his hometown. He was probably suffering a PTSD attack when he saw Hoffnung burn.

[@loneelementalcross]

@@kraosdadafusfus8034 That is a likely theory.

[@jethawk015]

“Mobius!” “One?” *Mobius 1 Belkan origination confirmed*

[@listeed1995]

0:38 *Allied Airborne Troops* > *Belkan Army Platoon* > Goddamnit. This should never have been cut.

[@MGSDude01]

None of these should have been cut honestly

[@rageperson2746]

damn he fuckin executed that guy for guessing wrong 💀

[@-mage-5236]

I love the AC4 references in Flicker Of Hope, even if timeline-wise that's not a thing yet P.S: F to Gordon who gave his mask to the kid. He's a real hero

[@cac_deadlyrang]

Gordon Freeman

[@AtlasFox]

I can see why these lines didn't make it in. However, the Razgriz chat about what they would do after the war and Grimm talking about why he joined, that was nice. And Nagase reminiscing about Davenport, that was powerful. Thanks for uploading this

[@Ikcatcher]

Dialogue like this gets cut because it ruins the current flow of the existing dialogue. The one in the Solg fight just ruins the mood of the fight in my opinion with too much dialogue when the music and your squadmates should be taking centre stage. The only one I think should’ve stayed is the Pixy one, because it’s actually important to the story

[@GoredonTheDestroyer]

In a way, I kind of like how Pixy _doesn't_ explode during the destruction of Hoffnung. It gives an extra authenticity to the notion of abandoning hope, with him being largely silent during the mission representing the destruction of his hope that the war would be clean - No unnecessary destruction, no civilians hurt or killed. While it's not explicitly stated where Pixy's from, other than the generic _Belka,_ I suspect he either lived in, or was from, Hoffnung.

[@bigmouthprick5852]

The pixy one is actually the worst??? If PJ had that meltdown I would buy it more since he's still green and naive. It is established by the game Pixy is the more jaded between the two: "Learn to accept it, kid. This is war." And if those lines had been from PJ, it would have had more emotional weight since it's even getting to the new guy.

[@Zack_Wester]

@@bigmouthprick5852 I could see the line play depending on if the player plays as Knight/or what the other two runs are called. probebly Knight as that would mean that this is war but we will not Collateral we will allow the enemy to surrender and then haveing it all be so heartless broken by the bombers that dont care what they hit.

[@AINGELPROJECT667]

The fact that a lot of the unused generic lines for Grabacr and Ofnir are the same VA, along with the fact that they never got official Friendly/Enemy designations (instead just using a generic "System" identity makes me think they were placeholders for the actual VA's to use rather than intended to be the "final" draft, but when the lines got cut, they never bothered with dubbing over them

[@Thornbloom]

​@@AINGELPROJECT667or...Z.O.E.

[@puterrawrr]

damn the Hamilton part dialogue need to be added. IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO MAKE THE GAME MUCH DRAMATIC

[@bigbear1293]

I am so unbelievably glad they cut that line about Swordsman being a "failure of a captain" because holy fuck that is so painful to hear him say. That moment of chatter flying towards the SOLG is meant to be peaceful and hopeful but that line would have shit on that whole amazing moment

[@dairenoh693]

Honestly, I have to disagree. If they'd kept that line, it would show that even the most seasoned of pilots can have survivor's guilt.

[@silfex8009]

After pretty much memorizing every piece of dialogue it's awesome to hear something like this. Great find!

[@Shattered_Skies]

Ah, yes!! It feels like the original dialogue is carved into my head, like a part of myself! This is so refreshing to hear

[@SOMEGUY7893]

I kinda wish they kept the citizens cheering you on during the SOLG segment it was kinda cool to see the story finish of the Razgriz stuff considering the "returns as a great hero" part of the legend applying to Wardog isn't ever openly acknowledged in the story like the other parts are.

[@LiveAlternateReaction8452]

This is really cool Definitely wasn't expecting Hamilton's Death scream, the squad's reflections and the citizens cheering were awesome too!

[@joespeed1952]

R.I.P. Lt Col Davenport. "You were a model fighter pilot to the end."

[@m.azfarakmal2334]

6:45 Blaze: And now, peace is finally within our reach. 7:55 Blaze: I will going to the sky. There a secret behind this sky, waiting to be discover.

[@moyza2619]

I kinda do wish that some of these dialogues were used in the actual game. Something like the rescue team chatter in reprisal would have worked to amplify the chaos that's happening below rather than the little glimpses we had in the final version. I also find the civilians cheering for Razgriz to be a nice little touch if it was abit spaced out between the squad dialogue. I genuinely like the squad reflecting on themselves before the SOLG descends way better than what we got in the final version god it gives them so much more depth.

[@CentralFloridaHipHop]

Damn that last one was deep. That whole dialog especially Captain Snow having survivor's guilt. Rip Chopper. Also Rip PJ

[@armoturo7578]

Damn hearing Pixy freaking up during The Inferno is just unsettling..

[@Dumbrarere]

I liked some of this extra dialogue. Thanks for sharing it.

[@WinVisten]

4:20 Blaze it. He was too high to see those closed shutters.

[@lux7142]

2:30 im starting to think that Cipher disappeared with Pj gf too

[@ethangavrilmoreno8479]

My headcanon is that Cipher married PJ's gf. PJ has promised her a happy life, be it with or without him., so after he died, she married Cipher to pay their respects to him. And guess who their child is? it's Trigger.

[@spirz4557]

@@ethangavrilmoreno8479 Fun fact : in the fanfiction "The Demon's song" Blaze is Cipher's kid. And in "Three Strikes" (same author), Trigger is Pixy's kid.

[@Galm1Cipher0]

@@spirz4557where can I read it?

[@justus_invictus991]

@@ethangavrilmoreno8479 sonavabitch that makes a lot of sense

[@BKupchenko]

That Hamilton scream lmao

[@leshajackass9583]

Nyaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!! 🥺😡

[@maxonwolf5841]

I’m 2 years late, but if they do somehow remake 5, I hope they actually restore that dialogue with the proper audio cutoff.

[@gabrieltecuenta]

I really liked the last reflection of the Razgriz, it is very moving, I shed a tear.

[@galacticknight55544]

They should have kept Pixy's dialogue at Hoffnung and the Oured citizens' dialogue about Razgriz being resurrected to save the world.

[@toonistiny]

4:19: Moments before disaster.

[@PS3PS2fan]

6:19 "15 Years Ago" at low pitch. Why does it sound so good?

[@chengzhou8711]

Sounds like Japanese translations that didn’t make sense or didn’t match the rating or otherwise didn’t make it in. Thanks for sharing, I did like some of the gas attack lines about the ground zero responders, terrifying and so on.

[@falken2089]

08:00 Blaze didn't say anything, it looks like a Blue Shift reference XD

[@preknopreguntesporqueminom9050]

The cut dialogue from grabacr gives Ashley a more psicotic vibe, kinda wish It was in the final product

[@solidv2]

I can't believe I found new content for ace5 after all this time thank you friend 😭

[@Arrow_118]

Man, I hope it becomes a mod on the emulators to experience. My childhood never felt more alive until now.

[@falken2089]

The first one are just references from Ace Combat 2 and 4?

[@death_the_d0g]

Yeah.

[@bigmouthprick5852]

What should have been kept: - Airborne doing one password (dependent on ace style) - Pixy's extra lines at Avalon Dam - The rescue crews at the gas attack - Hamilton losing his fucking mind - Grabacr 1 - Razgriz squadron final reflections (damn you archer, chopper, swordsman) Neutral: - PJ's girlfriend (Knight path, maybe?) - Ruchs What is good they didn't: - The citizens cheering. (At least, should have been rewritten, with everyone holding their breaths: calling their loved ones, evac orders from the impact zone, allied forces in support raging at the apocalyptic war machine they can't do anything about, swearing to drop the guns and go back to civilian life after this, with the underlying message: "We gotta trust those pilots. They'll stop this.") - Pixy's freakout (he's a seasoned merc, Hoffnung should be nothing in comparison to other wars he's fought - give those lines to PJ, who's never been involved in total war)

[@bennettleffew]

to be faira bout pixy's freakout there is official material that confirms he's a war orphan from south belka whose parents died when oseans raised his town to the ground he could be suffering a ptsd attack. even if he isn't, seeing such a seasoned vet of war freak out about what he's doing drives home the severity of what hes doing. either way, it's up to opinion :)

[@midorifox]

Everyone talking about the "mobius one" reference and nobody talking about the "Edge and Slash" referencing Ace Combat 2's wingmen's monikers. Sad.

[@yuri_0517]

"Oh... Umm... Slash?"

[@TheGlassMan]

Is there any way for a normal player emulating this to enable these lines? Some of them seem so good, and had no reason to be cut off. It made the impact of telling the story even better.

[@nemesis7774]

I'd rather had PJ talk about his girl than the game with the horses.

[@atoaster9940]

How on earth did you do this? Do you have some sort of tutorial? I really want to mod the hoffnung stuff back in.

[@razgriz16]

Ashleys lines make me think that he was maybe supposed to take out one of our wingman.

[@Victor-056]

1:08 Heh.

[@gwagabogo]

I remember seeing Heartbreak One in ACZ in one of the last few missions. Forget which, I was on mercenary style on Normal diff if that has anything to do with it.

[@0mikr0n]

Legend.

[@fabruciomiguez7912]

Wow the Ruchs Company survives that long ?

[@smilingrivaille7524]

6:07 Jaeger is that you?

[@linkfreeman1998]

"Low quality" The Internet's high res fetish does make the perfectly fine 720p low quality, indeed.

[@johnconner9149]

I loved that so much

[@CallsignAegis]

So Grabacr 1 IS A AI?

[@Grey8270]

Thanks

[@RookFox]

this is insane

[@dairenoh693]

Oh, hey, CatGoon!

[@RookFox]

@@dairenoh693 hello there!

[@TheAbenas123]

Wow, this is just…wow

[@threestrike5435]

that last mission on AC5 after shot down ofnir and graback it really good why they remove that i wonder

[@Narvaljodchik]

Were there other unused lines of dialogue if you pressed NO during The Unsung War?

[@death_the_d0g]

Forgot to mention that the lines that play after you answer YES to their questions are the ones that would play if you choose to answer NO instead. (ie Grimm: "Huh? me?..." is the NO answer). I had to slap both replies one after another to so the video doesn't go beyond the 2:20 minute mark, which is the length limit for videos on Twitter and where I originally uploaded it.

[@exequielpomilio8558]

I always thinking what hapened to ruch unit

[@darthvader8744]

3:20 WHY DOES THE RESCUE CREW GUY SOUND LIKE DONALD TRUMP Edit: The first one