Accident waiting to happen!

So this video was never recorded to be shown here or anywhere really, jo his owner + member of this group has said it should be shown so i thank her for that as charlotte, tanya and jo think theres a lot here to be learnt from. I will keep us all informed how things go forward but my advice here to jo is to not ride this horse 'Ace' after unfortunate accidents in the last two attempted rides, a professional needs to have weeks of riding first and probably medical investigations may shed some light ? ………….. LATEST !!!!! Just received a message a vet scoped Ace and he has several stomach ulcers and not small ones . Is this the symptom of the cause ? I’m personally not so sure but they will be treated first and then watch this space for an update

[@christinalogan311]

I was so relieved you told her he’s not ready. Perhaps he’s not the right horse for her and she can find one she can really enjoy without the fear of being injured . Lovely horse and you were absolutely marvellous.

[@JennyLee57]

When you point out the signs of his anxiety they seem clear. I hope you help him. He is such a handsome boy!

[@juleerowley9706]

I actually worry that there are so many horses in so many places where they are mistreated.....either because they don't have a clue about the needs of the horse or because their downright cruel....I wish every horse could have an owner like you ❤.

[@louisegogel7973]

May all people connected with horses in any way learn from people like Steve Young! Warwick Schiller had a major turnaround in his horse relationships and is now helping so many see the difference. Klaus Hempfling embodies personal self awareness and body control that the horses understand almost instantly and just watching him can turn one’s understanding about. Each one, and there are others who are striving and doing well, is helping humanity as a whole turn their understanding around for the better, so please do share share share these types of videos everyone, because is a great help to the horses everywhere.

[@karenlee8068]

Exactly the same behaviour in our new Welsh d , Rupert, last year, throwing rider off, bucking,not wanting to stand at block, getting anxious and blowing, after going down twice with colic we had him scoped and grade 3 ulcers were found, it was a long road to recovery, but with a good diet and always a full tummy he is now the sweetest gentlest horse, super on road hacks, does dressage and happy to do X- Country. Sometimes you have to think outside the box. Hope your lovely Ace gets well soon and you can both ride happily into the sunset.

[@kkdoc7864]

Karen, you are so right. Ulcers are common in horses if they don’t have 24/7 access to food due to their physiology. Wish everyone would keep haybags filled or good pasture access. And a vet visit should always be included with any behavior problems. Sometimes there are vision problems, MSK pain, etc. Great job taking care of Rupert.

[@louisegogel7973]

@@kkdoc7864 It’s good to know about horses needing food available constantly to prevent ill effects! And it makes sense since they are grazers.

[@julzhepburn3688]

Whenever i start working a new horse i start at the very beginning , Abc ,,that way you quitely find out the little missing parts of their education,,and where mistakes have been made ,,he is soo right ,if you cant do basic ground work with horse you have just bought ,you are not really safe to ride the horse,,not because youre not a "good enough rider" but because ,you need to build a little trust and understanding. Really these podcasts are so good and down to earth ,,cos its Not rocket science ,but it is worth the time to slow down a little and feel calm when you handle your horse,,he Will reflect your state of mind,, More than your level of horsemanship,,ive seen two young teenagers get lent ponies , both green ,the girl,Sam with learning difficulties worked alone slowly ( she was challenged and was not in the clic,,) she very camly made what she wanted very clear ,and had no problem repeating lessons she until he understood,it was really quite something to see how her clarity and patience,really worked ,he became steady and reliable ,never walking off until his rider was totally ready etc: The girl with the better more ridden pony ,very popular girl ,she took about 4weeks to ruin hers ,as he would very soon only go in reverse or rear ,disaster!! He was soon returned to his owner thank goodness. thank-you again for your work posting these videos,,as i am starting my new young pony,( im old and small ,i need small for many reasons not least because i shall be using her to carry wood etc: around the finca ,.) Watching you work is giving me yet another chance in my life to do an even better job than i have done before,,its inspiring ,,bless you🐴🌄🦅

[@beaniehorse]

Much better having the videos on you tube. Can I suggest getting a microphone with a sock and doing the video In landscape. I think you could really take off then. Brilliant videos, always look forward to the next one x

[@angelfeather7547]

I think your right. I myself wouldn't attempt to ride him in this condition. He's too high strung. Great job.

[@tracyclayton3840]

Ace is just beautiful 😍. I thought he had some fresian in him, especially round the fetlocks and how he carries himself when he's trotting. I'm sure he'll come on in leaps and bounds. He looks quite sensitive too.

[@chrishart4707]

I thought so, too. The high head carriage made me think so, in addition to your points.

[@cb664]

I was thinking the same thing. Definitely Friesian in there. I think he'd look much more elegant in English tack. It's my bias, I admit. I'm in the US and grew up riding Western, but later switched to English and prefer it because it's more refined. It's strange to me that Western has become so popular in the UK, lol.

[@flacadiabla3193]

Really appreciate you guys sharing all this with us.i know it is a lot of work to get these vids done and up, so thank you.

[@forrestfey]

Yes, too tense to ride. You always have to be prepared to go back to an earlier step in the education, for all sorts of resons. Everything you can do from in the saddle you can do from the ground first.

[@jenniferlehman326]

I just hope and pray that the trainer Ace went to, saw all the issues that you did and did right by Ace. A lot of miles being ponied to rebuild his confidence. And that your friend Jo understands. Best Regards and Stay Safe! 💖 From Ontario, Canada, Jenn. 💖 💖 🇨🇦 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟

[@abbebladon]

You have a beautiful property Guys xxx what a beautiful chap Ace is too xxx Steve, you fascinate me with everything you do. You read the horses so well. Thank you for uploading your videos up to you tube, it’s so interesting and heartwarming watching your calm & gentle approach xxx

[@crystalcavell6485]

I hope his ulcers can be cured. You never know what your horse is dealing with because they cannot tell you.

[@lindayaya59]

Ulcers?

[@stephaniewilson3955]

@@lindayaya59 previous comment about a troublesome horse that proved to have stomach ulcers that were dealt with.

[@chrishart4707]

@@lindayaya59 mentioned in an update given in the video description.

[@wendypeckinpaugh1078]

As always, amazing to watch you work.

[@motehopper]

Not sure if you explained this but is there a reason you cannot switch your video to Panoramic view instead of your Portrait view? thanks.

[@seffnichols3790]

Love your videos. Thank you!

[@TheJohnnyCombat]

Steve, you are gifted! Thank you for all your great work! JC

[@questioneverything9535]

I feel it is asking a lot of any animal to behave if they don't feel well. If ulcers are present, they are painful.

[@andreamellor3460]

I absolutely love your videos, I'm learning so much from them, please keep uploading!!!!! I'm sorry to be negative, but could you ask your videographer to be a little quieter, she's very very loud compared to you, and I'd rather hear what you're saying with my speakers on loud, rather than be blasted by her.

[@itzims5248]

There is no videographer. Just someone (wife, daughter, etc.) recording with camera phone I think. Since he doesn't use a microphone, it's difficult with sound especially if windy. I just turn on CC to help a little bit.

[@naomiroyle9637]

CC does help, but when we want to hear Steve, and we've adjusted our hearing to his faraway level, the louder voice of your wonderful "videographers" (regardless of relationship, that is the job they are doing) does cause a bit of a startle. I absolutely love the artistry of this family of trainers so I will suffer just fine. Sounds goofy but oh well. Great video, as usual. Thanks so much.

[@jillrichards8260]

Great video. Thanks jo for letting us see it.

[@retribution999]

You guys have the best job in the world and live in a fabulous place. You're truly blessed.

[@rhondab9792]

Steve's patience with the women chirping warnings, "good boy," amazes me. The same patience he has with the horses.

[@deebradshaw6341]

Loved your work with the old mare Pearl. About blanketing Ace, delighted to see preparatory work tip, but 1 question. I've always been told that whatever one does on one side one should repeat on other, (including mounting and dismounting). Saw that in action with Pearl. Is one side in this case only because one blankets always on this side?

[@VK-qe7if]

I had the same problem with rugs on a French Trotter I rescued from France who would have gone for slaughter had I not bought him. He had never had a rug on before, and at first world turn his back to me as if he was going to kick me. But luckily he never did, but he would do the same thing as I entered his stable with his feed, I had never known a horse to do that before. Also when putting the saddle on he would move in close to me as if he was going to crush me. I wish I had known about Steve and his techniques back then, cause I really could have done with some expert help. I had to watch everything I did with him because he was unpredictable, but eventually he started to trust me, but I could never really relax around him, but I don't blame him for his behaviour, cause God knows how he was treated in France. I believe he was in a fattening farm, and when he had put enough weight on he would have been transported to Italy for slaughter for human consumption.

[@FoxyBriar]

I really appreciate these videos that are honest, and show the horse having his or her issues and not just the finished product. Also…that horses and riders get dirty, and there is mud and dirt!

[@ClissaT]

It's 35yrs since I began my natural horsemanship journey with PNH. So that's how long each of my horses has been born into and raised that way. Yet none have ever regressed. It takes moments to teach them properly the first time. Why would anyone not teach them properly yet have the time to reteach them the wrong way, over and over? Once learned and known to be a comfortable thing or action, the horse is more than happy to experience the good vibes of doing the action or playing with the thing throughout the remainder of its life. My oldies are now over 25yrs old. They haven't been ridden for many years yet I could step aboard and their question would be where are we going and what will we be playing with along the way? They never were regularly ridden except in their youth. As older horses, they only got ridden when I had time which became less and less as I became more disabled. Oh and I don't use tack or saddle and would not think to do so even now. I have faith that my educational processes were sufficient the first time to instil new knowledge into each horse so it became second nature. If a horse displays these types of idiosyncrasies, then it was never taught properly and will keep needing reteaching until someone does teach it properly. It's not the horse's fault. The horse is not bad because of it. It is 100% the human's fault who is handling it this moment.

[@salvo9718]

What a beautiful Horse

[@lifeofjoy9404]

So glad you were able to intervene. I hope his stomach ulcers were resolved; such a shame!😥

[@carolcrompton6138]

Steve: can you find a Pom Pom made from bunny fur or a yarn, that you can wrap around a small recording speaker because it will block out the heavy wind gusts and give you better record ability! Love your videos and keep up the good work!….follow you daily now❤️❤️👍👍🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@MsCookieKirby]

Love the videos, but please get your daughter to lower her voice when she speaks. She is very close to the camera and shouts to you.

[@stephaniewilson3955]

In those conditions she did not have much choice.

[@alicesandeman5501]

I love the conversations ❤️

[@comesahorseman]

They need better equipment. Steve needs his own microphone.

[@royalty77724]

Always such a great job Steve. 😊 A beautiful horse.

[@marlenebourgeois266]

I keep looking at the bulging muscles on the front of the horses neck. That tells me there's a lot of anxiety possibly coupled with poor riding that never brought the horses neck down. If it were me, I know the horse needs loads if groundwork as you have alluded too. I would have a chiropractic exam done as well. I suspect some neck issues may be present. I'm not sure if this was the horse that had ulcers or not. He's a project that's for sure.

[@phillycatlady]

Landscape please! And something to screen out wind noise.

[@marogers01]

A mic on Steve would really help too.

[@flacadiabla3193]

Buy it, and send it to them then

[@randybutler4772]

Thank you for sharing.

[@mariagillinson8527]

That first saddle looks very similar to my saddle, I love mine! It’s a frameless endurance saddle (made in Germany) and will cinch and expand as needed as you ride. It can be used with western tack or remove the horn and use English tack so very handy depending on the use. Like carrying a rope, bags or a jacket.

[@Krinsta1]

I love these older videos with Charlotte and Steve.

[@erikas3652]

Love your videos. Hard to hear the instruction when the person holding the camera is shouting near the microphone. Please consider how close to the mic you are as my ears get blown out. Really do not want to miss the instruction but I have to keep lowering the volume. Many thanks for posting these!

[@palmerroskamp1513]

What a beautiful horse. He is just nervous. He needs more attention.

[@wendymackie2989]

Must be so frustrating when they take them to another trainer! In my eyes you are the best

[@kkdoc7864]

Can you explain why people put blankets on their horses?

[@euladearing5774]

Thank you .Is it always muddy there .☺️

[@jolindo6724]

When you are calm and clear then they trust and engage and you become a team...

[@blossomherd3921]

Love your vids . Going though thwm all now. I could do with a bit of advice to do with a horse freezing under saddle. He blind in his right eye. But that is definitely not a problem. We do liberty alot. Can't fault him. He amazing going no where.. Guess him name. Lol

[@MicheleLHarvey]

Guys, you have great content & videos, but the volume modulation is way off. Whoever is holding the phone has to realize their voice comes across as far too LOUD next to the people or person they're filming! It makes your videos very hard to listen to properly. I find I'm forever adjusting the volume, so I miss half of what's being said. To the person operating the phone please be conscious of how loud your voice is. You're making these otherwise fine videos almost unwatchable.

[@gingercox6468]

What I like about the wintec . Draft or mustang, Arabian or thoroughbred there’s a bracket that will fit.

[@blessedfire365xgf]

Love your videos 📷

[@louisegogel7973]

Do we know how Ace is doing since discovering the not so small ulcers? And how he is doing in general? And is the cause not having food available any time a horse is hungry as someone else commented in here somewhere?

[@judyluckie3751]

I was taught that the rug was done up - on back to front - and off front to back so if something happened the rug could come off 😊

[@briarcunningham7284]

I was fearing for the little dog!

[@mariagillinson8527]

Any update on Ace would love to know how it worked out?

[@englishpackers-fan7026]

Is there an update on Ace, beyond the ulcers? Are they treated? Is the owner riding him now?

[@petercastles5978]

Never hurts with a western saddle to turn it on it's back and run your hands down the panels. As a Saddler I have found nails sticking out a tad. To be fair it has only been two saddles, but to be fair again that is the sum total of roping saddles I have worked on in nearly fifty years. We don't see many of them here in Australia. The nails were flat headed "case "nails, driven up through the panel into the tree. They had worked their way loose after many years. If you find them pull them out, and just keep an eye on your saddle. Should still hold together alright.

[@kaypierce3211]

So true. My friend had a saddle like that, many nails that did not belong, and she had a saddle maker repair it. This was an expensive brand western saddle. surprising that quality brand had that done. (usa)

[@cynthiadolan2358]

Is the horse a young one? Only the wilder ones I had to lunge or round pen . The rest I trained from adoard. I have ridden since I was 9 years old and trained from 16yoon.I just wondered if he was a youngster. ?

[@mdee860]

Steve - I'm curious as to your thoughts about this: I always let my OTTB look at & smell anything new that I introduced him to. It helped him. As they are "Prey Animals" - throwing the blanket on his back, it could've been a mountain lion... to his mind! Sad that a horse that old was so startled by a blanket/rug! Wow - really not trail ready at all.

[@BoninBrighton]

Seemed like an unbroken horse to me was he perhaps drugged when he was originally tried out?

[@RockyMountainWoman]

I have purchased many horses like that, it just takes a lot of work and time, which is actually fun for me.

[@cynthiadolan2358]

Western saddles are made with flex bars that are made for broad backed horses. Here in the USA. Those saddles are terrific. They are not pinchy.

[@fludrbywest3886]

It’s working but not quite ready, aya?

[@francesacoy4730]

Your video has a very clear picture.

[@14Blackspirit]

Such a good horse. If you would take your time with him and teach him very well and then after a while on the saddle he would be a really good horse. He tries to please and he tries really hard but he is not ready yet. If you would take him to a trainer who trains him wrong you could break him really bad so be careful with that. Go easy on him and teach him well and be as firm as you must but don't overdo it. I know horses who doesn't try and they are in my opinion the worst because you first need to change their mind and then you can work with them but he is a good boi x3

[@katemaree5826]

I'd love to see how that clip on the lead works.

[@lisarushby863]

Just curious as to where Ace came from. I knew a lady with a Welsh black section d called Ace just like this one. She was called Julia but he was fantastic in traffic, rugs etc no issues at all I rode out with her on my d he was a lovely horse. So wondered if this is him. It was a few years ago though

[@barbaragreene6592]

It would have been a nice video if it hadn’t been for the lady by the camera or with the camera,that kept interrupting you n telling you what to do.

[@kidstuff44555]

Without that lady (his daughter), you wouldn't even have the video

[@naomiroyle9637]

She is actually his assistant, (daughter), so she is supposed to comment. I like her a lot, she is on her way to be a great trainer, if not already. She is doing the best she can with the equipment provided. How about a fundraiser for all new fancy video equipment? Comment numbers may go down, but maybe not! Thanks Steve for doing all your work in wet field, because I feel right at home with that weather. Matches our western Washington state to a tee.

[@juliebright8640]

They put something fluffy on microphones to fix wind noise

[@terrywhite4451]

We need those horse licks over here! Great job with that horse!

[@juliebright8640]

How old is he? Looks like he just wants a cuddle.

[@juliebright8640]

He has no confidence, and panics and a rider was too much.hes strong,that he felt,but also needed trust.

[@barrywagstaff346]

I’ve never heard a camera person over speak , on any other program, other than this one must be the trainer is in with the horse, or is she on the wrong programme

[@kirstinetermansen]

Positive enforcement yes

[@ckh2815]

NO ONE on KZbin needs a dead cat mic wind cover more than Steve.

[@Josh-pe5pl]

Anything more about Ace and his ulcers back in ‘21

[@susanl3064]

At least he stands tied; my guy broke loose once to run with other horses and he hasn't tied since. He's almost 22 yo.

[@lindayaya59]

Why did joe not have you help find her a horse. With having an accident I'm sure her confidence is shaky. Bless her hopefully everything works out.

[@gaildrake5940]

Is he part Friesian

[@mariagillinson8527]

My boy is Friesian Paint and Carrie’s his head high like that, can be spooky sometimes.

[@maryjomiller6472]

Why do I think this is a "green" horse?

[@kerrydwyer1879]

hooks should read hoons ( types that rev the cars,toot the horns,etc).Sad but true.. I noticed the way people are kind where you are riding...😊

[@auroraborealis6009]

Have you done 6 panel testing on problem horses? I have the sweetest, most beautiful Appaloosa mare with great manners and gaits. I've had her since she was a weanling. Now she's 15. Unfortunately my beautiful girl has broken my ribs and collapsed my lungs in 2 separate events. She's a perfect angel for tacking up. Sadly, she explodes when a rider gets on. Genetic testing revealed she's n/p1 so having a rider is probably painful. She's too dangerous to ride due to the PSSM1 so she's a wonderful pet. Also, do you check their vision? I have 2 night blind horses who get stressed when they're in a new place and the light gets dim. At home they're fine.

[@kerrydwyer1879]

I really watch and read...Believe it or not. I care

[@archangel807]

In pain from the ulcers.....not the horses fault....

[@francesacoy4730]

Sounded like he was clipping with his feet when in the round pen.

[@elsestelema6273]

Charlotte do us a favour and please get a “dead cat” for the Mike so we can hear you when you are outside . It’s really cheap look on eBay, thanks

[@lyncheeseman]

He looks like he is really trying to do as you ask. Plus he knows you aren’t going to hurt him.

[@comesahorseman]

Ulcers weren't the only issue.

[@MarcellaSmithVegan]

at 2:00 you need to pull Steve's rope so that he steps a couple feet forward so you can get the horse and steve in the same picture, haha

[@MSCLTD]

Absolutely love your videos but please can you ask your daughter not to talk during the recording? It takes away from the usual professionalism and is distracting to the point I have to stop watching. Your wife is brilliant though and got the balance just right and doesn’t take away from you’re conveying.

[@cathybones4107]

turn your phone & get a better full screen picture

[@shel.b.1090]

Looks like he has a bit of friesian in him rather than full cob.

[@profe3330]

I don't get it. Who buys a horse, leaves him in a field, and then expects him to behave beautifully in a new place, after months and months off? My own horses, who are good solid citizens, are slowly legged up on the ground every single spring. It's not some big huge issue. I fully expect them to be frisky and out of shape after a winter off, so I plan for that every year. If I had a NEW horse, I'd plan for even more ramp up time as we got to know each other. I honestly have no idea what these people are thinking.

[@donelookin3386]

OMG get a proper mic for wind...

[@kathleendorr8626]

You don’t repeat what you do on both sides? Both eyes?

[@michellebrown7828]

Call him spooky

[@freddieannt3354]

Who ever is filming needs to hush up. Steve knows what he’s doing.

[@love651018]

Doesn’t look like hes had much training

[@debbiehollis5711]

Lots and lots of ground work needed before anyone attempts to ride him .Its going to take a long time before he allows anyone to sit on his back .

[@chrisusher7144]

Never let her on and never lunge one with a person' he'll buck like she's his first saddle needs care and walk s

[@gingercox6468]

Gout is a bit like obesity. Both are caused and controlled by the sufferer. Completely not the same as a sprain. Crystals? In the foot? Sounds awful.

[@constancesmith8881]

Gout is a form of arthritis. It’s extremely painful when it flairs up. Arthritis is usually much worse on an area that has been damaged in the past. Just a bit of info.

[@noninoni9962]

41:40 I wonder how much she's paying him while she talks on her phone... How rude... I would end training right then, too.

[@kirstinetermansen]

It look Good,. You understand the Horse Teach the rider But ?? Wery. Pains,. They protest against More

[@cb664]

He looks Friesian.