Styles P Plans Final Solo Album | Common and Pete Rock Drop Single | Westside Gunn Signals Return

Join Mike D and The Crew As They Discuss Styles P Plans To Release Final 3 Part Solo Albums. Common and Pete Rock Drop Another Song and Announce Release Date For Their Joint Album 'The Auditorium Vol.1'. Westside Gunn Readies New Project and More!
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[@bryangee6860]

Pac the goat! Pac got 50 songs for any rapper in a versuz! No matter how long your career is/was. PAC music hit different

[@SD-vf1er]

The Pac and Big conversation has become annoying. The way we act like no one can pass them is very strange. It’s like people hold those opinions just to be safe and to be careful about how their opinion is viewed. And a lot of their influence is due to the fact they died young.

[@stillhere6558]

Pac was already beloved worldwide before he died, so you're incorrect regarding Pac. However, I agree with that sentiment regarding Big.

[@stillhere6558]

Pac had put out 2PacalypseNow with the singles Trapped, Brenda, If My Homies Call - all got major buzz. When Keep Ya Head Up, Holla If You Hear Me and I Get Around dropped - he was becoming a worldwide superstar. By the time Me Against the World dropped - he was solidified. Then All Eyez On Me - he was the biggest rapper on the planet, and still alive. Let's not rewrite history. After he passed and Makaveli dropped - it only further solidified his musical greatness, and the legendary status remains not because of his death - but because his catalog is exceptional.

[@SD-vf1er]

@@stillhere6558 I’m not saying he wasn’t loved but I am saying his albums were always spotty. We act like he has these all time classics. He has classic songs more so than albums. And to be honest, he was loved but people were also divided on him due to the beef. Not everyone on the east coast was rocking with him.

[@stillhere6558]

@@SD-vf1er that's your personal opinion. His albums sales and legendary status say otherwise.

[@SD-vf1er]

@@stillhere6558 actually neither of those things say otherwise. I don’t know why I always have to remind people that Hammer and Vanilla Ice sold millions of records too. Stop using record sales as some type of proof of quality only when it’s convenient.

[@LoyisoVabaza-wu3fq]

Common might rhyme better than Tupac Shakur now because he has been doing it for longer than Tupac but Tupac had an edge which enabled him to bring hip hop to the world hence he is better because a lot of people in the world would not be interested in rap if Tupac just stuck to acting. Panther power, tears of the clown and who do you believe in just to name a few songs are way better than any conscious song common ever did.

[@CLF_Got_WaveyK_900Akbar]

Common is the Richie Cunningham of hip hop such a boring Rhymer 😂😂

[@Shysta30]

Nas lit fire under every legend to drop projects.

[@jamaaldavis7907]

💯

[@Jc-ql8dp]

Facts that's what Nas wanted them to do "come outside y'all"

[@walterbrinkley7752]

Why is Leroy always lost and totally on different page from everybody. Smh but i did notice that he made every excuse to not have a Common vs Pac? 😂

[@leroygreen6310]

The Dreamer HER The Corner 1999 The Light Black America Kingdom Rmx G.O.D Kennedy Retrospect For Life The 6th Sense Come Close Nag Champa Between Me, You and Liberation Ghetto Heaven A Song For Assata Letter To The Free Its Your World I Used To Love HER Glory VerZus is just about picking the right songs and the right time so really anybody can lose depending on who's picking especially if it's genuinely about best rhymes and beats without emotion attached.

[@superbduper992]

The 2Pac disrespect from Leroy was crazy

[@leroygreen6310]

We know what disrespect is so let's not play. Saying I'm disrespecting 2Pac is a serious accusation and I don't appreciate that cause it's a lie that could get somebody hurt. So to put that jacket on me in this game when none of what I'm saying is a disrespectful attack on Pac is an attack on me based on a lie.

[@stillhere6558]

It was outright lunacy

[@superbduper992]

​@@leroygreen6310you praise Jay-Z for anything he does and jump at the chance to discredit 2Pac whenever he gets mentioned

[@edward-eq5ys]

tupac is one and common is 3 for me,

[@edward-eq5ys]

​@@superbduper992jay z is overrated, may top 40

[@willardweston8984]

That’s how you know Pacs the Goat, he’s still dropping heat in heaven 😂 Leroy, that Cali gas hit different

[@leroygreen6310]

I guess whenever I give Pac the utmost respect and base my whole diatribe in the respect of him being why I don't compare him to others is taken as disrespect smh.

[@stillhere6558]

IN HONOR OF THE LATE, GREAT, FEARLESS, MILITANT, COMPLEX, REVOLUTIONARY, POET, LYRICIST, ACTOR AND TRUE ARTIST TUPAC SHAKUR - LET'S ALL LISTEN TO HIS AMAZING CATALOG INCLUDING HIS UNRELEASED OG TRACKS, AS WELL AS HIS COLLABORATIONS WITH OTHER MC'S THAT CONTINUE TO RESPECT HIS LEGACY TO THIS DAY. THE HATERS CAN STAY FURIOUS! LOL!

[@stillhere6558]

@ACCORDING2HIPHOP - LOOKING FORWARD TO THE SHOW NEXT WEEK WHERE WE CELEBRATE TUPAC'S BIRTHDAY! LEROY CAN SHARE HIS FAVORITE TUPAC SONGS WITH THE AUDIENCE! RIP TUPAC!

[@nkosigore8836]

Common is in my Top 5 too

[@SD-vf1er]

Slash is not a good comparison for Jimi when equating to Pac vs Common. Someone like Neil Young would be a better comparison.

[@redtwinlightsaber9915]

Ron you not keeping it real Pac never talk about death in is music? It was the main theme to is music, if you listen to his music like 90% was talking about death and not only that but people who where real close to him said so in like the hundreds of interviews about him.

[@jeffreyyoung5598]

Back to back is not better than not like us back 2 back is one of the most overrated diss songs ever that shit was pg diss. That some shit you would hear on a nickelodeon show. There was nothing hurtful about that song

[@jeffreyyoung5598]

Mike Duncan is not better than Kobe Kobe has sonned Duncan too many times that debate ended in 07-08

[@TheRealLeonardWashington]

Leroy said it’s not fair to put Pac above cats who have 20-30 years of music. I can make the argument that Pac has that much music in a 5 year span. Just go check the catalog. What they did in 3 decades he did in 5 years. And placing Common above Pac is just your fan heart speaking for you. Imagine thinking that Common’s importance, impact, catalog/songs, and influence is superior to Tupac Shakur. This is what happens when fans get platforms to speak on. The lack of objectivity never ceases to amaze me

[@leroygreen6310]

Can you put I time stamp on me saying that verbatim? No so when you have to lie to make a point that's why I don't respect it.

[@stillhere6558]

@TheRealLeonardWashington when Leroy doesn't want to stand behind his lunacy fanatic comments, he calls people that are telling the truth about him liars. It's desperate and pathetic. The fact of the matter is Tupac is a better artist than Common and most other rappers, and it's the industry, other artists, and the general public that have made that decision. Leroy is jealous of Pac's artistry, because people are still listening to Pac 30yrs later - and no one wants to hear his music. Plain and simple.

[@leroygreen6310]

@@stillhere6558 Put a timestamp it

[@TheRealLeonardWashington]

@@leroygreen6310 I don’t have the timestamp but I can definitely refresh your memory when you placed Common in the top 5 and said you wasn’t sure if Pac was top ten. I dare you to say you didn’t say that

[@TheRealLeonardWashington]

@@stillhere6558 yea the Pac disrespect on that live was crazy. It’s like we’re throwing shade on Pac’s legacy due to him not making it out the 90s. Which is why I always say longevity is overrated. Longevity quality matters and Common had a major drop off from Finding Forever in 07 (and that album ain’t even a classic)

[@Betoven81]

LL always showing love? Idk about that. LL had a lot of pull back then with def jam. He did a lot of “posse cuts” but if you hear the lyrics, he was sonning the other rappers on the track

[@gutter855]

What time they talk westside gunn

[@StephoneYoung]

i keep missing the lives

[@vonSchergen]

Show starts 1.23

[@stillhere6558]

Leroy had nothing but glowing things to say about Westside Gunn, calling his dumbed down, negative, low vibrational music "fine art". Yet he disrespected Pac and his music. The man has a personal disdain for Pac and it's pathetic - especially since Pac's legacy will remain intact regardless of the slander.

[@leroygreen6310]

I would never characterize WSG like a gospel rapper with mostly positive music about peace and love though

[@leroygreen6310]

I would never suggest WSG music is only about art and that his influence has no street aspect that potentially throws gas on the raging fire that is violence in our neighborhoods.

[@stillhere6558]

No one referred to Pac as a gospel rapper, although he made plenty of songs revering God. You didn't drone on about WSG's negative raps. However, you did so concerning Pac. The reality is you have a personal, unfounded, disdain for Tupac Shakur. You're not any better than Tupac or anyone else walking this earth. Like Pac said, Only God Can Judge Me. What you say about Pac has absolutely no bearing on anything whatsoever, that's the part that makes you most upset. Stay mad. WSG is a basic, D level rapper - Pac is legendary.

[@TheRealLeonardWashington]

Mike you said it’s irresponsible to say Canibus beat LL but what you did was worse. You set on here and said Canibus only has one diss record towards LL. Meanwhile I literally just got done listening to Rip The Jacker (another LL diss). You also painted this narrative that Canibus was clout chasing with 2nd Round KO. If I have a bar in my verse on your song that you think is a diss (even tho that wasn’t the intent of the bar), and I remove the bar out of respect. Only for you to strike back at me anyway and dedicate your entire verse to me over something I just corrected. How is me responding to that clout chasing? I have never heard this narrative ever until now. Ron is right. That’s not what happened for us in real time. Even Method Man and Redman said LL was tripping about that when they talked about it on the Beef DVD. The revisionist history is crazy. And LL didn’t end Canibus career. Canibus was blackballed. Had nothing to do with what LL did lyrically

[@redtwinlightsaber9915]

Canibus was blackballed but the music was just not hitting like that let's be for real, his bars was on point but not his music.

[@TheRealLeonardWashington]

@@redtwinlightsaber9915 that’s a subjective point. Canibus had a fan base regardless how people felt about his music. It doesn’t negate the fact that he was blackballed. Point of me bringing it up was to combatt the narrative about why LL won the battle.

[@redtwinlightsaber9915]

@@TheRealLeonardWashington What lol of course it matters if little to no one is listening to your music your not going to have a long career which is true not a subjective point. Just like LL said 99% of your fans don't exist which had some truth to it at the time, doesn't matter if he was blackballed or not he was going fade out.

[@TheRealLeonardWashington]

@@redtwinlightsaber9915 it doesn’t matter at all because Canibus had an audience. Might not have been the same as LL’s but he still was gaining traction. And people still listened to Jay after Ether. The outcome of your career afterwards has nothing to do with if you loss the battle or not. Ja still made a couple more hits after losing to 50. The fed case ended Ja more so than 50. You just dismissed being blackballed like that was a small factor in Canibus demise. That was arguably the biggest factor. It sure as hell wasn’t the ripper strikes back 🤨

[@AlaMO96]

Lol....Did Ron say the Heat been to more finals than Lebron since he left? Lebron has went to the finals 5 times since he left Miami and they have been twice. He beat Miami in the bubble for a ring.....

[@leroygreen6310]

No I wasn't on the show when they discussed that.

[@AlaMO96]

@leroygreen6310 my bad Leroy.....it was Ron

[@dynamic9016]

Respect

[@GO6TZ6NHAMM6R]

Leroy💯

[@leroygreen6310]

I shouldn't have to say this to people out there but the language in the chat is getting outta control. If you can't respect other people when you comment I gotta ask that you leave. Real people and real lives are behind these conversations so I'm asking nicely that people demonstrate some decorum, integrity and respect when they speak to others here.

[@stillhere6558]

After you verbally attack people in the comments, including vile language - you have the audacity to cry when you get it how you live. You've been making threats of physical violence and veiled threats of killing people. Save the sob story and hypocrisy.

[@leroygreen6310]

@@stillhere6558 That's a lie. I came on the show repeatedly saying peace and love and was accused on more than one occasion of being overly positive and looking for too much good in these rap discussions and it's on camera several times and all this vile kinda language is gotta go but I'll still be here. You can be deleted.

[@stillhere6558]

All you do is lie. Stop whining and crying. When you talk reckless, deal with what comes along with that coward. Otherwise, watch your mouth and what your chubby hands type.

[@stillhere6558]

All you do is lie. When you talk and type reckless, deal with what comes along with that. Otherwise, watch your mouth and what you type. Save the whining, crying and playing victim for someone who cares.

[@leroygreen6310]

@@stillhere6558 Ok cool so keep talking like you talking but this my PSA for people that want to have healthy conversation about Hip hop. Folks that feel like they can't talk without disrespect can try that.

[@patrickwarren221]

KRS-One is better than Tupac

[@stillhere6558]

That's your opinion. Millions of other people on the planet disagree.

[@jamaaldavis7907]

Like krs 1 but nah ..better den pac....equal to 1nce upon a time..

[@leroygreen6310]

You can't say that cause your disrespecting Pac, his legacy and everything thing about him smh.

[@stillhere6558]

The original comment expressed a simple opinion in a direct, respectful manner. He didn't go on a lengthy, biased tirade accusing Pac of being destructive to the black community. Leroy is a stan of a rapper who proudly sold dope to his own community, including his mother (Jay Z) and funded a rap career bragging about it - yet Leroy talks down on Pac. Pure lunacy and hypocrisy. Leroy's just mad Pac's name still rings bells and he's highly respected on the Westcoast where Leroy resides. Meanwhile, Leroy can't get anyone to care about his lame rap music and is a nobody in California. California Love is what Pac rapped, and what Pac will always receive. Pac and his music are loved worldwide. Leroy will be upset about Pac for the rest of his life, because Pac's music will endure until the end of time.

[@jamaaldavis7907]

@@stillhere6558 🤣🤣...u holding the heat on leroy....🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@StephoneYoung]

Leroy Crazy Common top 5 LOL stop it

[@leroygreen6310]

Resurrection One Day It'll All Make Sense Like Water For Chocolate Electric Circus Be Finding Forever Dreamer/Believer Nobody's Smiling Black America Again A Beautiful Revolution Pt.1 August Greene

[@SD-vf1er]

We have got to stop using the “verzuz” as the barometer as who is better. I’m not sure why whenever it’s convenient we reduce the art to just 20 songs vs 20 songs. Let’s be honest about Pac. Me Against The World was always hovering around a top 10-15 album of 95 when he was alive. All Eyez On Me was see as a dope Disc 1 and a suspect Disc 2. And Makaveli was loved by those who were Pac fans and liked by others. Everything else was very average.

[@stillhere6558]

Based on Me Against the World being close to 6x platinum worldwide, All Eyez being diamond status worldwide, and Makaveli being 6x platinum worldwide - I suggest you fact check before making claims that fit your own biased narratives regarding the popularity and success of Pac's albums. All the rest of his albums were platinum or multiplatinum, except Pac's Life. Stick to facts, not fiction. You may not care for Pac's music - but clearly millions of people do.

[@SD-vf1er]

@@stillhere6558 two things, one, your numbers aren’t completely accurate so you shouldn’t tell people to fact check things when you’re off and two, I’m not arguing his popularity, of course he was popular and his movie roles and drama played a big part in that but to act as if he didn’t help cause a divide is just wrong. There were plenty people on the East not even checking for him.

[@stillhere6558]

@@SD-vf1er three things: 1)if my numbers aren't "completely accurate", provide the accurate numbers then; 2)you're getting too emotionally caught up in Pac's life - we're talking about his music, not your emotions concerning Pac; 3)simply because "plenty" people on the east weren't "checking" for him means nothing. Clearly, millions of people all over the globe are still checking for him - 30 years later.

[@SD-vf1er]

⁠@@stillhere6558 how am I caught up in my emotions when I’m rating the music for what it is. Every album is spotty. Thats part of what made Pac who he was. He just recorded and recorded with very little quality control. I don’t need to provide you with numbers because you can google just like I can. And of course people are checking for him. He died young and has a cult following just like the other legends. Unfortunately that doesn’t mean their work is always rated properly. In fact, it usually means their work is overrated.

[@stillhere6558]

@@SD-vf1er your ratings don't move any needles concerning Pac. That's the part you refuse to accept. You have your personal opinion, and no one cares about it. Pac's music will still be highly regarded regardless of how you feel

[@StephoneYoung]

Green getting suspended change everything that series

[@jamaaldavis7907]

Common top 5 all time....🤣🤣

[@stillhere6558]

That’s something Leroy and about 100 other people on the planet made up in their own minds lol

[@TheRealLeonardWashington]

And the funny thing is he called me a liar when I pointed this goofy take out 🤣🤦🏾‍♂️

[@T2Judgementday-yb2jz]

Common not above Kendrick

[@jamaaldavis7907]

@@T2Judgementday-yb2jz def I got common above kendrick..n kendrick ain't top 10...all time..🤣🤣

[@edward-eq5ys]

how is he gonna say overrated jayz is his favorite over the goat tupac

[@BklynZu]

Leroy is right in 1995 when I was 18 years old nobody I knew that was listening to pac wasn't thinking about creating anything to help the community 😂 😂😂it was his more aggressive songs was what we listened too more

[@BrandonHaymon]

New York babble and stupidity and hate🗽 🤡

[@BrandonHaymon]

Well that's the bums in bums in your neighborhood.

[@stillhere6558]

Bums will be bums. Only a lost cause would want to do negative things after listening to Trapped, Brenda, If My Homies Call and Words of Wisdom. Don’t blame Pac for your own ignorance.

[@BrandonHaymon]

@@stillhere6558 you butthurt hater get off the internet weirdo NY 🗽

[@BrandonHaymon]

@@stillhere6558 That is the dumbest comment ever written 😂 butthurt werido get off the internet.

[@jeffreyyoung5598]

Stop lebron is not even the second best player of all time Lebron's not even better than Kobe or Duncan or shaq

[@ptreznov240]

Awful take

[@MadMaxTopShotta]

Lmao ya got at Leroy but he was right on the pac angle and he was honestly being nice bc pac was a wild person he set alot of bad precedent in the space and he gets protected in ways where he is the void of criticism damn near and it’s sad bc it doesn’t help him or the generation after him. And those are the facts and if we keeping it a bean all the way pac if he was the same age he was back then today he’d be dead by murder too bc he was wahlin speaking on stuff he had no business speaking on fr and it got him caught. Nobody told him to PROMOTE MOB PIRU, nobody told him to sell the young youth on being thug even alot of his actions were poor and this by no means takes away from his legend in music but if ya dont call it out and adress his bad behaviors than the youth is gonna think it’s ok which is why you have an xxx dying at 20 a takashi doing his goof shit etc

[@tajbrown8013]

but all mike was asking does leroy think common better than pac..what does pac life choices got to do with the question ? we are talking about music.. every rapper have done bad stuff y’all be acting like it’s just him 😂 y’all be weird lol

[@MadMaxTopShotta]

@@tajbrown8013loll now I don’t agree wit Leroy on common having better music I think pac was nicer all around then common I think Leroy is saying maybe we love pac image and are saddened by his death more so we over inflate his music idk but pac got better music than common

[@leroygreen6310]

@@MadMaxTopShotta When we talk about musicality for example and Common been working with some of the best musicians for 30 years and you say MUSICALLY he still aint measure up to Pac's MUSIC (beats)? I say that's cap. So J Dilla, DJ Premier, Questlove, D' Angelo, Kanye West, Pharrell, Robert Glasper and NO I.D aint give Common no dope music fam? Comeonnow

[@leroygreen6310]

@@MadMaxTopShotta As far as Pac's life outside of music, like I said I don't blame him bc I know as young men we have all been in fights, conflicts etc but when people try to use a conscious rap angle against someone like Common that don't make Sense lol.

[@tajbrown8013]

⁠@@leroygreen6310I got pac over common as well and more time doesn’t mean anything.. it’s artists out here who been in the game a long time who still doesn’t have a decent catalog.. I like common btw