Where Did Arch Linux Come From?

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@ActionRetro
@ActionRetro 5 ай бұрын
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@truxttondogyuun
@truxttondogyuun 5 ай бұрын
damn, you really need that revenue to buy your garbage Apple products huh?
@samuelbanya
@samuelbanya 5 ай бұрын
Probably for better camera equipment and other stuff. I guarantee you he at least has a lighting setup as well. His attempt has been made, but I don't see any on your end to compete?
@Likenow1245
@Likenow1245 5 ай бұрын
Don't waste your money on patreon!
@paulluce2557
@paulluce2557 5 ай бұрын
The Nerdiverse needs an Action Retro and Cathode Ray Dude Collaboration....
@csteelecrs
@csteelecrs 5 ай бұрын
Since Arch is a rolling release, I would like to see if it can be updated from 0.1 to the current release.
@ActionRetro
@ActionRetro 5 ай бұрын
genius idea
@zoomosis
@zoomosis 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately Arch dropped 32-bit x86 support a few years ago, but it might still be possible to upgrade it to a more recent version.
@LouiesWorkshop
@LouiesWorkshop 5 ай бұрын
@@ActionRetro You gotta do it!
@csteelecrs
@csteelecrs 5 ай бұрын
@@zoomosis but is it possible to install 0.1 on 64 bit hardware and update it?
@zoomosis
@zoomosis 5 ай бұрын
@@csteelecrs I don't think you can easily install 64-bit Arch over the top of an existing 32-bit installation.
@SockyNoob
@SockyNoob 5 ай бұрын
The Arch wiki is beyond useful for just Arch itself. It's the go-to wiki for pretty much any distro in general since a lot of stuff is identical to other distros.
@AaronOfMpls
@AaronOfMpls 5 ай бұрын
Indeed, I'm on Manjaro myself (which is Arch-based). As useful as Manjaro's own wiki is, I do find documentation on the Arch wiki too.
@OhhCrapGuy
@OhhCrapGuy 4 ай бұрын
I'm on Debian Testing at the moment, and my go-to is still the Arch Wiki.
@astroid99
@astroid99 4 ай бұрын
I love i for everything other than its system d related help, as I use runit. I often need to go down a rabbit hole just to do what would be a single line on systemd
@AgentBurgers
@AgentBurgers 4 ай бұрын
Man anytime I need help with arch stuff I just use chat gpt and it's come through fr me so much
@deudz
@deudz 4 ай бұрын
dont forget gentoos wiki
@joe-skeen
@joe-skeen 5 ай бұрын
14:10 "I'm not really a computer guy" 😂
@codg808
@codg808 4 ай бұрын
Proceeds to install an entire OS and GUI from 2002.
@TurntableTV
@TurntableTV 5 ай бұрын
I use Arch version 0.1 btw!
@milkywaydotmoe
@milkywaydotmoe 5 ай бұрын
running sudo pacman -Syu on your system rn
@oguzhan001
@oguzhan001 5 ай бұрын
@@milkywaydotmoe I invoke Punisher's no no no no.
@theworstredstoner0950
@theworstredstoner0950 4 ай бұрын
I don’t care.
@Wigwamwham
@Wigwamwham 4 ай бұрын
Lying for no reason is weird
@jomargamerbrgameplaymunecraftT
@jomargamerbrgameplaymunecraftT 4 ай бұрын
​@@Wigwamwham but its true tho
@squidjam
@squidjam 5 ай бұрын
Am I glad Arch exists? Yes, it saved my 2017 mac from obsolescence. Do I think it's a friendly distribution? No. You can do wonders with it, but most of it is non-trivial to the majority of computer users.
@michaelheimbrand5424
@michaelheimbrand5424 5 ай бұрын
2017? My 2010 iMac runs OpenBSD (x2, the wife has the same setup), my 2012 runs Ubuntu Studio and the TV-Mac Mini 2012 is running Debian. Last but not least, my PowerBook G4 is on OpenBSD. Your 2017 has a bright future I think. ;) BSD & Linux Macs FTW!
@samuelleandro2275
@samuelleandro2275 5 ай бұрын
As a Mint user, I love Mint because it comes with everything I need. And as someone who uses Arch on my secondary laptop, I love Arch because it comes with absolutely nothing. Meaning I can keep it as lightweight as I want it to. Thats the wonder of Linux, two completely different distros can perfectly serve the same person.
@OhhCrapGuy
@OhhCrapGuy 4 ай бұрын
I don't think anyone would call it a friendly distribution, I'd even go so far as to say that "friendly" implies "make decisions for the user so they don't have to understand the system configuration", and by that definition, being "unfriendly" is precisely the thing that sets it apart from almost ever other popular distributions.
@sweepingmotion
@sweepingmotion 4 ай бұрын
Fellow 2017 mac linux user here. Running void cause wanted to try something new. Too bad sound card drivers are a pain for my particular machine
@cateatingbread
@cateatingbread 4 ай бұрын
2017 obsolete? My MBP from that year runs Sonoma really well too. Linux flies on the thing, but mine has a touchbar and that sucks for getting it to work.
@Myo-jf7jx
@Myo-jf7jx 5 ай бұрын
The start of "I use arch BTW" - Sent from my Arch machine [KEKW]
@woldemunster9244
@woldemunster9244 5 ай бұрын
N007-K3K!
@CS_Mango
@CS_Mango 4 ай бұрын
I used Arch by the way. Now I'm on EndeavorOS because it's background looks pretty.
@Myo-jf7jx
@Myo-jf7jx 4 ай бұрын
@@CS_Mango That's neat, I still use straight up arch with the Zen kernel, works well for me and I made my own background, very proud of how it turned out owO
@deudz
@deudz 4 ай бұрын
of course the furry uses arch
@Myo-jf7jx
@Myo-jf7jx 4 ай бұрын
@@deudz Of course I use Arch, I'm a furry AND trans, it was meant to be
@Sayakas_Digital_Attic
@Sayakas_Digital_Attic 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic episode! It's incredible to see how Arch Linux started with such a rudimentary installation in 2002 and grew into one of the most beloved distributions. I agree that its reputation for being "not for beginners" is often exaggerated, the wiki and installation guide are phenomenal resources for learning!
@yorgle
@yorgle 5 ай бұрын
At 11:00 when your term goes into an alternate character set, try typing “reset” in the shell. It might reset your termcap. :)
@zoomosis
@zoomosis 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, "reset" usually works if the console/shell gets garbled. Another alternative is to switch to another virtual console with Alt+Fx, as seen earlier in the video.
@yorgle
@yorgle 5 ай бұрын
@@zoomosis I’m not familiar with that key combo… I’m usually not directly on the console. Great suggestion tho! I’ll have to remember that for when I need it. Thanks!
@piked86
@piked86 5 ай бұрын
​@@yorglethe function keys + alt also works with a GUI open. Useful if your DE crashes.
@Yotanido
@Yotanido 5 ай бұрын
@@piked86 If you have X open, you need to use ctrl+alt+F* instead of just alt and an F key.
@giphit
@giphit 5 ай бұрын
@@piked86 when the DE is open it's ctrl + alt + function key. probably cause with DEs, there's usually stuff like opening krunner (alt + f2) or closing a window (alt + f4)
@thecrow3461
@thecrow3461 4 ай бұрын
Installing arch in 2002 was a lot easier than installing debian in 1998, that's for sure.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Ай бұрын
Login as Root
@seanys
@seanys 5 ай бұрын
This is giving me PTSD styled flashbacks from the first PC I ever owned and couldn’t afford Windows. All I had was Slackware 3 on a CD that came with a book I bought. Coming from Amiga, that was some serious culture shock.
@Leofwine
@Leofwine 5 ай бұрын
My sympathies.
@parastie
@parastie 5 ай бұрын
LoL. I am right there with you. I installed Redhat from a Linux for Dummies book way back in the late 90's. That was fun!
@ajsnz
@ajsnz 5 ай бұрын
I first installed Slackware in 1993 but I didn't stick with it. I was downloading the install floppy images at University and I couldn't afford enough floppies for the X disk set so I never had a GUI. I tried it again in 1996 installing from a Walnut Creek CDROM from work. The install went fine but I wanted a newer kernel. Trying to compile the new 2.0.x kernel was when I found out I had to update GCC first. I think I gave up on that install and got work to order a newer CD.
@minty_Joe
@minty_Joe 5 ай бұрын
This was one of the reasons I delayed the jump right into Linux. I figured the developers needed more time to simplify things. Btw, I like your avatar, @seanys.
@alpzerlaken
@alpzerlaken 5 ай бұрын
The thumbnail really kinda remind me of a 90s Amiga Workbench. I love Amiga to death wish it exist today
@opposite342
@opposite342 4 ай бұрын
14:50 I saw enlightenment! That's a pretty cool WM. I think you should definitely try getting that running
@rmcdudmk212
@rmcdudmk212 5 ай бұрын
So glad Action Retro is keeping the tradition of Weird OS Wednesdays alive. ❤️ 😂
@SixOThree
@SixOThree 5 ай бұрын
As is tradition.
@BilisNegra
@BilisNegra 4 ай бұрын
Remember when it all started? Ah, them good ole days...
@SirWobbyTheFirst
@SirWobbyTheFirst 5 ай бұрын
"I don't like reiserfs" - Someone's hankerin' for a murderin'.
@a1batross_
@a1batross_ 5 ай бұрын
11:05 when your terminal gets broken like that, `stty sane` usually helps. It saved me a lot of time and I didn't knew about it for years, so I hope this information will be useful. :)
@binarydinosaurs
@binarydinosaurs 4 ай бұрын
Saved me a lot of grief back in Ultrix32 days on DEC MIPS.
@kerbolax
@kerbolax 3 ай бұрын
'reset' also works
@FrankKumro
@FrankKumro 5 ай бұрын
Would love to see more early Linux installs! How about Slackware next?
@SpeccyMan
@SpeccyMan 4 ай бұрын
Definitely. Slackware was my distro of choice back in the day.
@GigaWhatt0
@GigaWhatt0 4 ай бұрын
Hell, install current Slackware. It's still fairly similar. That distro still does everything the old way.
@emuhill
@emuhill 3 ай бұрын
@@GigaWhatt0 Well almost. The only difference is that you are not doing it with 3.5" floppy disks any more.
@DevynCairns
@DevynCairns 5 ай бұрын
When bad data corrupts your terminal, you can just run the `reset` command. It sends a bunch of stuff to your terminal to try to turn off anything that might have been turned on and reset it to a good state
@jongeduard
@jongeduard 4 ай бұрын
Yes, but are you sure that it was available back then in that old version?
@mikechappell4156
@mikechappell4156 4 ай бұрын
@@jongeduard reset has been around. It is possible to screw up an xterm so bad that reset doesn't fix it though.
@GamingWithUncleJon
@GamingWithUncleJon 24 күн бұрын
​@@jongeduardsince i was using Red Hat back then... I am sure it was.
@shadowj5639
@shadowj5639 5 ай бұрын
Picking the IBM Deathstar 40 gig out of all those other drives was certainly a choice...
@shadeofentropy
@shadeofentropy 25 күн бұрын
I am a recent Linux convert, as recent as this weekend just gone. Absolutely loving it so far, even went with Arch as Windows-baby's first distro.
@srazash
@srazash 5 ай бұрын
i'll be honest, when you said "the original version of arch linux" i was not expecting to hear the year 2002
@horacegentleman3296
@horacegentleman3296 17 күн бұрын
Wait until you find out about slack
@BobSockTwo
@BobSockTwo 5 ай бұрын
14:08 - "I'm not really a computer guy" *installs Arch*
@deudz
@deudz 4 ай бұрын
its not hard as long as you follow the manual
@BobSockTwo
@BobSockTwo 4 ай бұрын
@@deudz Sure, Megamind
@M1szS
@M1szS 4 ай бұрын
@@BobSockTwo you can literally just use archinstall, which does everything for you, you just need to choose the options you want
@maikeru6158
@maikeru6158 5 ай бұрын
Gentoo next?
@Jossandoval
@Jossandoval 5 ай бұрын
Only if he compiles all of it in real time on one of those single-core G3 PowerPC
@samuel-rodriguez_
@samuel-rodriguez_ 5 ай бұрын
​@@Jossandovalworld first 86799 petabytes video
@DienerNoUta
@DienerNoUta 5 ай бұрын
or void
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, as someone who has used Gentoo (btw) from about the same year as this .... Arch is supposed to be hard-mode? What, does Ubuntu not even make you compile the kernel or something? LOL-snort.
@kumarp3074
@kumarp3074 5 ай бұрын
@@Jossandoval Just think on how optimized it will be!
@SeishukuS12
@SeishukuS12 5 ай бұрын
👍 FYI, when the CLI gets messed up like that, just type "reset" and hit enter, it'll reset the terminal and fix that corruption.
@colinstu
@colinstu 5 ай бұрын
Old Gentoo / Slackware installs next. Also dig into Enlightenment maybe? the OG eyecandy DE/WM.
@mgoddard23
@mgoddard23 5 ай бұрын
Seeing Enlightenment screenshots in whatever Linux for Dummies book I was flipping through in Barnes and Noble in like 1999 or 2000 was what got me to set up my first Linux install. I don’t remember if the first one was Slackware or not but that’s what I ended up using up until like 2005 or so.
@domoncar6782
@domoncar6782 5 ай бұрын
Old Gentoo on Sun Sparcs for hard mode. For the nightmare mode, get X running on them.
@sockterrier
@sockterrier 5 ай бұрын
@@domoncar6782 man do i wish i kept my dual 66mhz/1mb cache sparc pizzabox i had back in 2002. a 5 iirc, and i think i ran whatever version of netbsd was current then on it.
@ssokolow
@ssokolow 5 ай бұрын
Very nostalgic. That was around the time I switched to Gentoo Linux after spending a year or two on Mandrakelinux as the first distro I daily-drove. I didn't realize LILO had an option for a menu though.
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 5 ай бұрын
Me either. Been grub since day one, though. (Also Gentoo, also beginning from about 2002.)
@mikechappell4156
@mikechappell4156 4 ай бұрын
I thought LILO was easier to configure than grub. I had a pretty nice setup with multi-booting DOS, 98SE, Win2K, FreeBSD and Linux. I still don't know my way around grub/grub2.
@renatoriolino
@renatoriolino 4 ай бұрын
Nice video!!! Btw, at 9:04 (when editing fstab) I think it should be /dev/diskds/disc0/part2 for rootfs, since part1 was your swap. Too bad you didn't tried englightenment... it was my favorite wm at that time.
@SolaFideSolusChristus
@SolaFideSolusChristus 3 ай бұрын
really showed your chops here im impressed with how smoothly this went.
@2xtreem4u
@2xtreem4u 5 ай бұрын
Oooh IBM Deathstar !
@MonsterMovieTV
@MonsterMovieTV 5 ай бұрын
To answer a question from the previous episode. I also have a plastic container with old IDE hard drives in it.
@northof-62
@northof-62 4 ай бұрын
I just got Serpent OS working on my Thinkpad. It's been in the works for some two years now by the creator of Solus Linux. Apart from only having Gnome atm. and only supports US, UK kbd. it runs pretty quick and surprisingly stable , (pre alpha). Thx for sharing your retro experiences. You're always so bright and cheerful and fun to watch.
@darknetcs
@darknetcs 5 ай бұрын
Huh, I was thinking that it will be more complicated, but it was quite straightforward. Having a walkthrough was definitely helpful
@larrythemagicdragon58
@larrythemagicdragon58 5 ай бұрын
I know there are a lot of "I use arch BTW" jokes, but I'm a longtime viewer of the channel, and I actually use arch as my daily driver. It feels like this video was made for me. I haven't watched it yet, but my week has been pretty shitty, and seeing this in mt feed feels like an act of providence
@martijnvds
@martijnvds 5 ай бұрын
How do you know someone is an Arch user? Don't worry they'll tell you.
@larrythemagicdragon58
@larrythemagicdragon58 5 ай бұрын
@@martijnvds I was only saying that to tell that this video is relevant to me specifically. If this wasn't about arch Linux that'd be fair, but I'm literally the core demographic this video appeals to, I'm a long time viewer of the channel, and I use arch Linux on my personal computer. I know "funny ha ha he uses arch btw" but in this case that seems quite out of place and unreasonable to even mention
@Nikolai508
@Nikolai508 5 ай бұрын
@@martijnvdsI started using arch a year ago and I just can’t explain it, there is a truly inexplicable need to tell people that I use Arch, there must be subliminal mind control phrases in the install guide to make us proselytise it.
@SetOfAllSets
@SetOfAllSets 5 ай бұрын
I use Gentoo btw
@george1717
@george1717 5 ай бұрын
I kinda use arch btw
@PRKLGaming
@PRKLGaming 5 ай бұрын
The upbeat jazz is a really nice touch! Fits the video quite well
@terminalterminus
@terminalterminus 5 ай бұрын
Makes me homesick for the original Gentoo...
@fredjones100
@fredjones100 5 ай бұрын
Still got my Gentoo 1.4 cd somewhere (and still running Gentoo AND Windowmaker on my main PC!)
@TatsuZZmage
@TatsuZZmage 5 ай бұрын
I ran it on a ppc g3 red imac you had to stage 2 install it
@sryx
@sryx 5 ай бұрын
You should try the Enlightenment window manager. It was a glorious late 90's early 2000's Linux experience :)
@binarydinosaurs
@binarydinosaurs 4 ай бұрын
Aside from Tim's Window Manager, you've reminded me of the other favourite window manager of mine back in the 90s - fvwm. Typing that makes me feel SO OLD.
@VitorMadeira
@VitorMadeira 18 күн бұрын
Fantastic video and also, a small UNIX lesson in any way. I loved it. Greetings from Portugal.
@prozacchiwawa
@prozacchiwawa 5 ай бұрын
A handy thing to know about vt100 terminals (linux' console emulates it). The reset escape sequence is ^[c which you can emit to the terminal by running cat in a pinch. It resets almost all parameters of most vt100 emulators so the font at least will return to ascii.
@szr8
@szr8 5 ай бұрын
5:35 Kind of weird that it uses "disc" instead of "disk" to refer to an HDD. As a long time Linux user, I also forgot that there were distros that didn't use /dev/hda, /dev/sda, and similar format.
@LaurentCourtin
@LaurentCourtin 5 ай бұрын
Canadian spelling?
@59withqsb12
@59withqsb12 5 ай бұрын
Sooo interesting to see these early versions, shows how far we've come. Thanks Sean!
@michaelpiotrowicz6100
@michaelpiotrowicz6100 4 ай бұрын
Glorious stuff. Great watching you do it
@75slaine
@75slaine 5 ай бұрын
Nice trip down memory lane, thanks Sean. It was a great time for Linux back then.
@AnonyDave
@AnonyDave 5 ай бұрын
2002 wmaker is such a flashback for me, I used it for a couple years around that era. Was hard to beat then
@danl2073
@danl2073 5 ай бұрын
Great video. I recall installing Redhat way back in the 90's on my Pentium 2. Loved the BEos video as well.
@DavidHuffTexas
@DavidHuffTexas 5 ай бұрын
Wow, what a blast from the past! My first Linux install was RedHat 5.something on an old AST 486 machine, using a stack of 3.5" floppies at my old job at Texas Instruments. Formatting hard drives, configuring LILO, editing Xfree86 configs,...fun times. I actually ran wmaker for quite a while, along with the xmh mail client.
@deltara2106
@deltara2106 5 ай бұрын
As an Arch user myself I am VERY happy to see this! I'm most accustomed to Arch and it will be my distro of choice for years to come.
@jose.inestroza
@jose.inestroza 5 ай бұрын
Great content!
@mikescholz6429
@mikescholz6429 4 ай бұрын
When a kernel and a package manager really love each other…
@JohnPorter4096
@JohnPorter4096 5 ай бұрын
I love the choice of Music in your video.
@treighpedroche1516
@treighpedroche1516 4 ай бұрын
Best video yet! Slackware 1.0 on real hardware next??
@Plagueheart
@Plagueheart 4 ай бұрын
11:38 brings back nostalgia. I haven't had to peek into the system in years to get chipset
@lucolesco
@lucolesco 2 ай бұрын
Crazy to see how Firefox had sidebar tabs support, but it doesn't nowadays.
@lordofenron
@lordofenron 4 ай бұрын
This is pretty cool. Great weekend project :) Thanks!
@JeffTiberend
@JeffTiberend 3 ай бұрын
Been cool if you could have run enlightenment as a desktop environment. I always thought that it was pretty cool. Love your videos. I hope I can meet you one day a VCF gathering in the future!
@TomZelickman
@TomZelickman 5 ай бұрын
I'm suddenly missing the fvwm desktop... That was fun to watch!
@BrodieChree
@BrodieChree 5 ай бұрын
Action Retro: I don't like ReiserFS Narrator: Hans Reiser is a convicted murderer.
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 5 ай бұрын
Does using the driver mean you have to be friends with him? ;-)
@BrodieChree
@BrodieChree 5 ай бұрын
@@nickwallette6201 It’s also currently deprecated Reiser4 is it in 2024
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 5 ай бұрын
@@BrodieChree Well that's a fair point, then.
@ModusOperandi
@ModusOperandi 5 ай бұрын
It's a real "better known for other work" moment
@TheDemocrab
@TheDemocrab 5 ай бұрын
@@nickwallette6201 No it doesn't, but the funding for maintenance dried up after the conviction leaving only a handful of dedicated volunteers which has very real implications when it comes to usability and stability.
@YaroKasear
@YaroKasear 5 ай бұрын
For reference, when your terminal gets messed up like that after catting a binary, you don't have to reboot, just use the "reset" command.
@JohnSmith-xq1pz
@JohnSmith-xq1pz 5 ай бұрын
Shaka, when the Archs fell...
@paultapping9510
@paultapping9510 5 ай бұрын
Temba, his arms wide
@costelinha1867
@costelinha1867 5 ай бұрын
I UNDERSTOOD..... I understood the reference....
@WIImotionmasher
@WIImotionmasher 4 ай бұрын
I just watched this episode for the first time on Netflix lol
@oasntet
@oasntet 5 ай бұрын
Does Arch do in-place upgrades? Might be fun to image that hard drive, stick it in a VM, and see how many point releases you can upgrade it through before something breaks horribly.
@FurbyFurby-jp3wh
@FurbyFurby-jp3wh 3 ай бұрын
Arch is rolling distro so you can't upgrade to specific version of distro, but you keep it up to date upgrading packages
@oasntet
@oasntet 3 ай бұрын
@@FurbyFurby-jp3wh Huh. I wonder if you can upgrade from 0.1 to current, then.
@ssokolow
@ssokolow 5 ай бұрын
I admit I may be mis-remembering how far back the command goes and I don't know if Arch 0.1 includes it as part of that base `ncurses` package or splits it out into something you needed to download, but, all you should have needed to do in order to recover from catting a random binary device node was to type `reset` and hit Enter. That'll query the terminfo database and emit the necessary escape sequences. It's like using `amidi -S 'F0 7E 7F 09 01 F7'` to send a General MIDI reset sequence to a synthesizer after Ctrl+Cing out of `amidiplay` mid-note.
@TimStCroix
@TimStCroix 2 ай бұрын
In Bash, if you want to cd into a directory you just created you can us '#cd [ALT+.]' (ALT + dot {period}) ALT+. recalls the last parameter of the previous command. Repeating ALT+. goes up in history recalling last parameters of even more previous commands. This feature of Readline's EMACS mode is the only reason I don't switch to it's VI mode. I use it constantly for many purposes, not just the example I just gave you. I've trained my left thumb to tuck under my palm to hit the ALT key in order to keep my fingers on the home keys. It's now a finger macro for me.
@quinks
@quinks 4 ай бұрын
Yes, you could reboot after your terminal starts displaying garbage... or you can use the 'reset' command. Or you can be creative and realise that your terminal got messed up because some semi-random output contained some ANSI instruction or whatnot to mess it up in the first place and instead of going about it the right way, you can just do the same thing to get it back. 'cat /dev/urandom' is what I immediately thought of when it first happened to me, followed by a Ctrl-C. Possibly run it two or three times if it didn't work. Worked well enough for me to have become my habit for about two decades now.
@Nuberu0x1
@Nuberu0x1 4 ай бұрын
15:22 my old days as Debian user kicked in and I thought he was going to say "unstable"
@LordHonkInc
@LordHonkInc 4 ай бұрын
I think installing linux "by hand" is something everybody should try at least once (in a VM like VirtualBox if you want to just scrap things quickly if/when you mess up) because it's pretty much the same regardless of distro (yes, you can install even Ubuntu without the installation wizard) and getting familiar with things like partition layout and chroot is a great skill to have if you ever need to troubleshoot a system that isn't booting correctly. Also, it's fun and gives you that "yeah, I did the thing" feeling when you finally manage to get things running, if you're the kind of person to get a kick out of that sort of thing. I totally understand that there's people who just want to work _at_ their computer and not _on_ it, and that's fine. But if you're interested in the part that comes between turning your PC on and opening youtube in your browser, it's definitely an interesting and educative way to spend an otherwise boring afternoon or two.
@jongeduard
@jongeduard 4 ай бұрын
Really fascinating how much similarities there are. Of course there are some differences, but it's all in the details. Alright you had to build the kernel manually. And you needed to do a lot more hardware configuration especially to get the X Window stuff fully working, but the idea is generally the same on many aspects. I am also not surprised about missing dependency management in a 0.1 version of something. Watching this video on Arch btw. :)
@weycrestv
@weycrestv Ай бұрын
I used to run windowmaker and sometimes afterstep when I started out with Red Hat 5.0 back in the 90's. And yes I could remember the xinitrc command as you were typing it in!
@50-50_Grind
@50-50_Grind 4 ай бұрын
Very impressive! Subscribed.
@andresbravo2003
@andresbravo2003 5 ай бұрын
The earliest Arch Linux Version I could ever see.
@JoshLiechty
@JoshLiechty 4 ай бұрын
This takes me back to the days of trying to compile Gentoo on my then-current AMD K6-2. These days I daily drive Fedora atomic desktops, but you're making me want to dig out an old PC and try an Arch install (BTW)
@hblaub
@hblaub 4 ай бұрын
I installed core Arch Linux the very first time, because my single board computer from Odroid had an old kernel, while someone in the Arch community had compiled the newest one, including the newest software of course. It was a bit more involved than any other Linux I had installed (creating partitions, filesystems, everything manually), but it was worth it. Oh and their Wiki is maybe the best resource for anything. I even found some Pulseaudio problem which I had on Ubuntu.
@postiemania
@postiemania 5 ай бұрын
After 4 attempts to install Arch I finally got my install working. The first attempt caused me to bail out as I decided I needed to do some reading. I started again with the second attempt being finished by a mains power blackout. The third attempt I installed every thing except the Display manager, by this time I was getting familiar with the process and proceeded to do the fourth and final install. It works as intended and I am using Libre wolf as my browser now.
@RarefiedError
@RarefiedError 4 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see him try Redox OS
@WIImotionmasher
@WIImotionmasher 4 ай бұрын
I've been avoiding Arch but your recommendation here is making me consider it. I have used an Arch-based distro in Garuda. But I figured Arch would be annoying.
@miasma82
@miasma82 5 ай бұрын
My first linux distro was red hat. I remember the pain and sweat to get x to work
@mgoddard23
@mgoddard23 5 ай бұрын
And sound. And networking.
@asimplenameichose151
@asimplenameichose151 5 ай бұрын
Similarly here ... RedHat and Debian, first as servers, then as DEs - what a long way all this has come
@ne0ne0
@ne0ne0 5 ай бұрын
Yes, same here! RH 4.2.
@joelg6740
@joelg6740 5 ай бұрын
Red hat 9 was my first daily driven linux install back in '03 at 10 years old. While Debian 3 ran my file server. Then in '04 when Ubuntu and CentOS were released I had them on other machines to learn. But also played with PClinux, Suse, Fedora, Gentoo, DSL, Arch, Puppy, Mint and many others
@Lazaralis
@Lazaralis 4 ай бұрын
wow i completly forgot about the whole cat the mouse to glitch your terminal font bug. good nostalgia here!
@pjmq
@pjmq 5 ай бұрын
hahaha holy crap this was a blast from the past. Hours spent in my school dorm trying to figure out why my mouse input wasn't working, why my drives wouldn't mount etc. The dark ages but fun times to be sure. Wild to me that the first Ubuntu came out what, like 2 years after this did? A fantastic time to get into Linux.
@Contmotore
@Contmotore 4 ай бұрын
That was very interesting to watch! My first Linux distro was Debian with WindowMaker, but nowadays I run Arch, btw.
@netkrash
@netkrash 5 ай бұрын
oh wow this takes me back, I dropped Slackware in favor of Arch around that era because I wanted to try the newly released gnome 2 :) I remember doing that same install!
@annieworroll4373
@annieworroll4373 5 ай бұрын
Arch is interesting and the documentation is absolutely amazing. I've used their docs to figure out problems with Ubuntu and Debian that weren't documented well over here. I've installed it on a VM, it was easier than getting Red Hat 5.2 working though part of that was my graphics card being all sorts of pain.
@johnruschmeyer5769
@johnruschmeyer5769 5 ай бұрын
Impressive video. I'm amazed that you managed to find a still-working IBM DeskStar (a.k.a. DeathStar) 40GB. As for window managers, I would imagine that the big alternative to twm was probably fvwm.
@DanaDoesStuff
@DanaDoesStuff 5 ай бұрын
ahh, good ol' Weird OS Wednesday... why, I remember that time back in the day when this series started, with a fun little jaunt into the world of Arch Linux on an old Pentium II...
@jakubpolomsky
@jakubpolomsky 5 ай бұрын
An arch user here! (Backed by retro windows, apple, commodore and atari machines)
@PearComputingDevices
@PearComputingDevices 5 ай бұрын
Notice the huge daughter board within that computer? It's called an NLX platform. Companies like NEC and Gateway used them in the late 90's, it was in many ways a major upgrade to the LX platform that systems used prior that allowed things like AGP video cards and Pentium II cpus. Something the LX platform and it's layout wouldn't allow because of lack of space and cooling. Personally I loved the NLX platform, it was supposed to provide cheap motherboard upgrades to cut down on E waste and if more manufacturers got on board it probably could have. We made a deal with Gateway years ago to develop a BeOS based computer on this platform. On paper it was a great idea. Our small company shared some of the development cost and got a ready made system. All we had to do was deploy our custom image to it and sell and we did for a short time. Too short to be honest.
@ahmadzahid266
@ahmadzahid266 5 ай бұрын
It’s like fully manual installing operating system, no installer wizard… you are the wizard!
@Rood67
@Rood67 5 ай бұрын
Daffy is the Wizard... kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYLKnoluha2GkKMsi=eqxVEOXjDn8Y0zUn I watch Bug Bunny btw 😂
@r.g.c.3897
@r.g.c.3897 5 ай бұрын
I used Arch for a couple years around 2005-2008, not sure exactly as that was a while back. I really liked it at the time but at the time one of their big things was they didn't patch software you got it in its "vanilla" form or as the developers of the software released it. That was really cool until something broke the system and you had to use a crippled OS until the software was fixed by the original developers. It didn't happen often and I'd say in 2 years it only happened twice so it wasn't a chronic issue.
@AndrewKeifer
@AndrewKeifer 3 ай бұрын
My first pc was an IBM 8088 with 512k of RAM, two 5.25" Floppy drives, no hard drive and a 4 color monitor with a CGA graphics card. I can't be certain, but my first operating system was either DOS 1.2 or 2.1. I played games like Azure Bonds and Falcon 2.0 (I bought a CH Products serial port joystick). Back then, I would surf bulletin board sites on my dad's computer using his 1200 baud modem. My primary download protocol was xmodem. My dad's computer had a monochrome monitor and I wanted to see if I could run my color monitor on his computer (his Epson Equity 1 was superior to mine in processing power, plus it had a hard drive). So I left all the cables connected and took the case cover off of both computers. Then I swapped out the graphics cards and monitors. It worked like a charm! Thereafter I became a hard core computer nerd.... wait, no, actually I didn't, but I did enjoy computers as a hobby and have built several of my own over the years.
@CheshireNoir
@CheshireNoir 5 ай бұрын
What a lovely PowerMate. I used to wokr for NEC just before these were released.
@jay1185
@jay1185 5 ай бұрын
15:31 Great video, even though you made me wait 15 minutes for a proper *THONK*! 🤣
@momentomoridoth2007
@momentomoridoth2007 4 ай бұрын
i have been using linux for 20 years now. Arch is not hard. you just have to be curious enough to google things when something breaks. The documentation is outstanding.
@JohnSmith-lt8wg
@JohnSmith-lt8wg 5 ай бұрын
Action retro, do you wear an anti static wrist strap while holding all these components. If you don't consider esd you'll be zapping all the electronics and get random errors or failures.
@gallitagen5224
@gallitagen5224 5 ай бұрын
You use Arch BTW
@Zarkovision
@Zarkovision 5 ай бұрын
That reminds me on my first steps in Linux with Slackware in the mid 1990s... In 2002 I think I was using SuSE Linux, which was very user-friendly with installation tools like Yast and KDE 1.0 as GUI... Two years later I was using Debian (and Morphos 1.4x) on a Pegasos 2, which was an exotic, but phantastic machine. Today I've installed Icaros on an old Intel Atom based PC. Runs very good on this old and slow hardware.
@shady4tv
@shady4tv 4 ай бұрын
7:53 - yea I can guess why....At the time reiserfs was the "default" for a lot of Linux but after everything went down ext3 was released which became the new standard.
@KangJangkrik
@KangJangkrik 5 ай бұрын
FYI: if ur terminal messed up, just use "reset" command instead of reboot
@Mantikal
@Mantikal 4 ай бұрын
Tons of people will not take it upon themselves to do a raw Windows install. They would rather just buy the next device put on the market for them (the companies just love them). Opening up a device or taking the bull by the horns when it comes to an OS is either too scary for them or too boring. They'd rather do something they consider to be more fun. Then there's the people who will take it upon themselves to do a Windows install. They think they're being "techie" by being able to go into a devices BIOS and change a few settings and seeing that the Windows installer options are not greyed out and then just hitting the install button, sitting back and letting the program do all the work and decision making for them and finally rebooting. For those people who are used to the installer doing all the work and thinking for them - oh, hell yeah - doing an Arch install is extremely hard!!!! I know first hand. I was one of them. It was overwhelming for me many years back. My reaction then "WTF is all this shit and why are they making me do this?!!! Arch was forcing me to do something that I was not used to with an install process - THINK!!! (what companies don't like consumers doing)
@TechnologyNToys
@TechnologyNToys 4 ай бұрын
I like your funny words, magic man
@iO-Sci
@iO-Sci 5 ай бұрын
I don't have a clue when it launched in 2002 b/c I don't have any memories but despite this Linux computer O.S. looks serene and explored nostalgia.
@Francois_L_7933
@Francois_L_7933 5 ай бұрын
Now I'm curious to know how long it would take to bring this up to date? But if you want something obscure to try out, install Icaros for some Amiga Workbench goodness.
@mgoddard23
@mgoddard23 5 ай бұрын
As much as I don’t miss having to manually configure XFree86, OSS sound, and compile the kernel (and reconfigure and recompile), there was a sense of accomplishment you got after getting it and everything else on your system working that’s missing from modern distros.
@temetka
@temetka 5 ай бұрын
I also use Arch btw. I loved the "linux from the void" line.
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