mobo PCB Breakdown: EVGA Z590 DARK

[@NotThatGuyJD]

Yay, BZ getting review samples from EVGA. May this be the first of many more to come. Edit: X570 as well, not yet but good to know you'll be getting that.

[@TheBackyardChemist]

About the 20 phase controller, I think nvidia is now making server gpus with 500w power limit and 80gb of hbm. Those things might need such a conroller.

[@christopherjackson2157]

Big fan of the in-depth board reviews. Much appreciated!

[@arkama67]

Let's release the oc board for the chipset that will be replaced in 2 months, sounds good. Great video as always nonetheless. Can't wait to see it in one video

[@UptownNYC]

Its scheduled release is mid-October. So more like 6 weeks.. not that it even matters cause this board is never in stock anyway. Dark motherboards are typically Vaporware 🙄💨💨

[@jordibt1789]

State of the art is temporal , the glory of Hw bot first places is forever

[@fy7589]

The first generation of DDR-5 motherboards and Memory controllers will probably suck at memory compatibility and cause a ton of issues so I'd think this motherboard is going to be highly preferable for memory overclocking since the DDR4 is extremely matured by this point and this motherboard has only 2 dimm slots therefore memory overclocking on it will be far more fun than any new generation motherboards for like at least a year or two anyways...

[@mikkelsmikkel8070]

Biggest regret regarding my PC, stepping from an X to a Z platform.

[@UptownNYC]

@@fy7589 a year or two 🤦‍♀️🤣 someone educate this man... No enthusiast is gonna be fiddling with a $600 last gen platform when Z690 and Alder Lake is the new 800lb gorilla in the room. Intel is literally churning out new sockets every 6 months these days... slower moving companies like EVGA are getting left in the dust. ASRock and ASUS have already leaked Z690 motherboard specs & photos set to ship NOW!

[@skoopsro7656]

Great design. Can't get rid of the phantom current throttling with direct die tho

[@EriIaz]

Buildzoid: some minor USB port rails, featurs I barely use, they might as well not exist Also Buildzoid: I am a huge sucker for USB ports, tho!

[@ColeC700]

i wish you had a layout video of the evga x570 FTW!

[@JumpingJoseph]

Glad they sent you one, you deserve a nice toy buddy. Good day 👍🏼

[@atb12312]

I have learnt so much from this channel thank you buildzoid

[@alt5494]

If only there was a better CPU to run on this insane motherboard. Hopefully it's really easy to swap production to a new socket.

[@Mike500]

I kinda like copper heatsinks. Yeah, it's overkill, but it commits to it. Harks back to heatsink beasts like ASUS P5E3 Deluxe/Premium. The fans are silly though, there's better ways to get some airflow over there.

[@probablygrim]

I'm considering buying one of these as I plan on keeping my recently upgraded 11900k from my 10700k, it OC's okay and I plan on riding a few generations out like I did from 4790k to what I have now... I'd like to think this would be an upgrade from my z490 MSI edge, then add 2x 360mm rads as opposed to 1 240 and 360.... Plus the fact with the copper heatsinks do look gorgeous

[@milchkopf3881]

not routing some optional water cooling tubes through the heat sink, is a missed opportunity

[@Apollo-Computers]

I bought a 10900kf near the launch date of this board, signed up for notify of this board day 1, still haven't gotten the notify to buy it. Starting to think I should just sell the 10 core and wait for alder lake. Jacob freeman said end of August for more dark boards, didn't happen.

[@AbsoluteUnit1337]

Why do you need such a high end board just for gaming i assume you dont want to set oc records

[@Apollo-Computers]

@@AbsoluteUnit1337 lol I barely do any gaming. I want the board for liquid nitrogen. I may not get world records but I still have fun doing it.

[@AbsoluteUnit1337]

@@Apollo-Computers sorry for assuming. Completely understandable then but i think oc on the new cpu’s may be kinda skewed because when new memory Comes out speed and timings are very bad

[@Apollo-Computers]

@@AbsoluteUnit1337 I have only seen jedec spec timings on ddr5, but some of the high ddr5 speeds that some manufacturers have shown are actually quite impressive granted I don't know the timings for those speeds. We really won't know until it's all here.

[@leandrodrace]

Hell yes! I`ve been waiting for this video!

[@briankimathi5033]

We've got a tonne of knowledge imparted here. Thank you

[@butchyford5905]

"They strapped fans to the damn thing" lolol : )

[@LuumiJuhani]

You use inferno backplate Libor, then no ice on the heatsink.

[@darkSorceror]

I like how the PCI-E lanes are laid out on the silkscreening.

[@Epyon1201]

yes copper is like 11x more expensive, but we are talking like $2 vs like .20 cents.

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

heatsinks are literally one of the most expensive parts of a motherboard.

[@Epyon1201]

@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Aye, I'm only compairing raw materal cost. I would assume the manufacturing process would be similar enough.

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

@@Epyon1201 the 90A power stages on this board are usually around 2USD. The heatsink is gonna be a lot more than that.

[@-eMpTy-]

@@Epyon1201 I imagine the thing that drives the price up in that regard is, that copper is harder to machine. Should still not make that big of an impact considering this is a $600 board. +/-$25 I'd assume.

[@fleurdewin7958]

@@-eMpTy- This is $600 board, but the Asus Maximus XIII Apex is also at the same price in Newegg. If you are paying the same price, that copper heatsink is a big plus though. I get Buildzoid's rant of wanting a cheaper board , but this is a niche market, with less competition and volume, the manufacturer will milk as much as they can from the consumers.

[@Zarcondeegrissom]

that's the VRM heatsink a lot of lower end boards need, nope, lets put it on the VRM that doesn't need it when it's frosted over from the LN2 in the CPU pot, lol. also a lot of manufacturers add fans to the VRM, cuz cutting/extruding proper cooling fins on aluminum blocks is hard apparently, lol.

[@Argentbuilds]

just got this new from micro center for $150 felt way worth it

[@tristankordek]

Coming back to that heat sink topic. How are You going to cool the VRM while using LC / AC with only an aluminum heat sink without fans? I'm afraid that a longer session with the OC could unnecessarily bake SPS. Copper is unnecessary, the fans can stay, but they should only turn on when the temperature differs from the desired values. I would narrow this radiator a bit so that the fans could breathe.

[@mylittlepwny3447]

Trying to find one of these to buy right now... ugh I missed my notification queue

Perfect for my nap, also if you screenshot at time 41:16 it would make a nice front for a T-shirt

[@pathfindercod4638]

Great video. I just got this board and have been trying to decide which ram to get for a couple weeks. I am not a huge overclocker/benching guy looking for good fast everyday stable. Any suggestions? Thanks!

[@jwalt5284]

Bought three EVGA Z-590 FTWs for my home and office. Never overclocked any beyond XMP. All three failed within a few weeks. Even an RMA Z-590 FTW board EVGA sent me on RMA failed. The Darks have been great. FTWs crap

[@Bobis32]

BZ about the copper/aluminum situation its currently more expensive to purchase aluminum than copper thanks to the US/China trade war

[@Odysseas13LefkonaSt]

I could use switches for disabling M.2 drives, so when I install an operating system it will put the bootloader only on the drive I want it to.

[@poppyrider5541]

Do those painted lines indicate which ports go through the chip set? That's nice.

[@mrPCbuilds.]

Im curious to see if this, the tachyon, or the OC formula pull the most records.

[@simoSLJ89]

Great board. The only problem of all the Z590 board is the 11th gen Intel.

[@tommytubbytummy3]

I'm new to building PCs. Could I use this board just for gaming and overall having a beefed Over Clocked Pc?

[@devaxionrl8189]

z590 unify-x when?

[@zelin_dc]

What you do a video on why mobo are getting more and more expensive? Is it just inflation?

[@bartoszm84]

Im curious if their boards and graphics cards are designed by same people. Every generation of evga geforce cards have hardware issues. After my 1080 died from overheating vrm i said no more.

[@kovacspis]

Love that board!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@iamcletuscassidy6657]

@Buildzoid is the Tachyon still your favorite board? Or did the Dark jump ahead?

[@mtcounts]

I’d like to know as well

[@jabalajabolindest4852]

Hey Buildzoid, which mobo do you recommend for 10900k oc and Samsung b die oc, z590 auros ultra or z490 auros master? I can get them for almost the same price.

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

Gigabyte really improved their dual rank support with Z590

[@jabalajabolindest4852]

@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Thanks, I'll go with z590 ultra

[@PooPooPerson]

This thing looks beastly! Can we get a power ranking on your favorite Z590s?

[@devaxionrl8189]

this

[@tresnugget]

Lol I came to see how evga advertises a 22 phase and still can't find the 22nd phase

[@WillFuI]

Do u know what would be cool is if u could set a bios setup to the safe boot

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

yeah that would be cool. Gigabyte actually has a function like that on the Tachyon.

[@stigi3849]

Buildzoid and I ARE best friends :)

[@NotThatGuyJD]

The absolute dedication and bribes, keep up the good work.

[@haosheng12]

how does the FTW Wifi do?

[@ChrispyNut]

Huh. I'm surprised you're not more positive about triple BIOS. Just like with RAID 5 vs 6, it's too easy for something to go wrong while using the redundancy and end up with nothing (not as bad as RAID cos new BIOS chips are easier to acquire than replacement unique data), having that extra one means you've pretty much got to be a belligerent moron to end up with no bios working. I'd say it's a log scale rather than linear for extra bios chips (that immediately hits ceiling of diminishing returns), but.... that would be wrong and silly but it's sorta true, I think.

[@jake..A]

Was a life saver for me when the evga bios fucked up 2 of my bios, went to the 3rd and reflashed the other 2 and now i have 3 working bios again.

[@MrMuBot]

Oh yummy stuff is here.

[@patrickbone5446]

Are they giving you a x570 dark too?

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

once it releases yes

[@patrickbone5446]

@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking I can't wait to see it

[@DEJ915]

I have to be honest, the only reason I got this board is because of the copper heatsink.

[@edaucode]

that audio caps is big

[@kentd2869]

do you plan to do a review the pcb of c8e? a lot are saying that mobo is the best am4 board so far which is kind of a bold statement

[@jimmatteo5062]

Current Asus products are Spyware magnets. Seriously! AMD and Nvidia are in bed together. Seriously! It used to be called "price fixing" but it has become much worse as of late. Learn or weight..Seriously!

[@YouKnowWh0ooo]

What happened to the EVGA X570 MoBo???????!!!!!!!!!!

[@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking]

still not released yet

[@milchkopf3881]

it'll be available at X670 launch

[@Gamingtechgg]

we want more copper :D

[@tanishqbhaiji103]

Please don’t rant on the heatsink that, Copper heatsinks are extremely rare and extremely cool to see, people buying this board shouldn’t care about the price anyway.

[@ObviousCough]

This board costs substantially more than a Unify-X, and i don't think it's better. :| That's just my opinion though.

[@stigi3849]

Takk!

[@SeeMoreLevingthon]

Ah, I read it as X590 and was like Whaaaa? Is the upcoming EVGA board for Ryzen gonna have a rebranded chipset?! Then I tapped the video and hear the glorious voice speak the letter and now I'm typing before I leave to boost the engagement.

[@CR055FIRE]

sorry, i can never not like a copper heatsink i don't care what the price is

[@jimmatteo5062]

6-pin on the bottom of the board is for legacy M.2 drives. Did you not look at the add-on card for the TRX40 Creator!? "Can't be bothered" lulz ;) "Shouldn't be mounted in a case" ...mounts x570 version in a case just to piss u off... Cooler = more efficient ...polishes copper VRM heatsink... (taught 'em everything he knows..jk) Less opinion, more attention to detail, junior. xoxo

[@UptownNYC]

Imagine charging customers $600 for a motherboard with an already DOA socket, when Alder lake Z690 is coming out in a few weeks! 🤦‍♀️🤣🤣🤣

[@DroneDocs]

Wait how many weeks? You got an approximate launch date??

[@MrBillzebud]

@@DroneDocs middle of October apparently.

[@__aceofspades]

@@MrBillzebud end of October is when the event is officially scheduled, Intel didn't straight out say it's coming then, but they dropped a huge hint it was, in a previous event.

[@MisterRorschach90]

Why does evga insist on making ugly motherboards? Remember some of their older boards? Minimalist with tons of grey and black, but still classy. Also why do they constantly make boards with cool features like u.2 ports, but then just release a revision 2 with the u.2 ports nixed? Or probably even worse, they release a decent looking board, and then release a revision that looks like they didn’t care what it looked like.

[@__aceofspades]

No thanks. Premium board for a dead socket. Alder Lake leaked benches already show it out performing an 5950x in MT and ST in cinebench, and leaked European pricing have the 12900k cheaper by a large margin than a 5950x. EVGA should've just skipped AM4 at this point and made an AM5 board

[@NotThatGuyJD]

Dude you realise he's reviewing an LGA1200 board right? Like absolute valid points of just going to AM5 instead of AM4 unless it's mostly a test run on getting their AMD Bois and stuff running correctly on a known platform with plenty of things to pull data from so that so their AM5 board can come out swinging straight out the gate. Also AM5 is still awhile out, not particularly long but a while still.

[@k1leon]

new video , new nobody cares