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@AbsoluteHistory 3 ай бұрын

Head to @LRFHEC (www.youtube.com/@LRFHEC) to learn more about their life-saving work!

@Rickiye 3 ай бұрын

What's that sign on the granite plinth of his bronze Thames statue that looks like a cross between the letters O T and E?

@zacmumblethunder7466 3 ай бұрын

@@Rickiye That's what the Plimsoll line actually looks like. It's white and painted mid-ship. It indicates the safe level in fresh water, salt water, and in different climates. These factors affect the density of water and, therefore, how much weight the ship can safely carry. The red paint shown in the video is not the plimsoll line.

@Rickiye 3 ай бұрын

@@zacmumblethunder7466 👍 man

@dereksun3258 3 ай бұрын

This is also preventing insurance fraud since a lot of shipping companies just loaded their old ships with rotten cargos and sink them intentionally to claim insurance

@kathypiazza7228 Ай бұрын

Lloyds of London had to love this guy.

@MrWaynemarshall Ай бұрын

@@kathypiazza7228 And the sailors who's lives he made safer

@FerretPirate 3 ай бұрын

You skipped the facts that all those ships were insured for far more than their value, or that "everyone" was only the wealthy and powerful.

@shutupluffy2 3 ай бұрын

Yeah pretty large oversight lol

@Expired_Antidote 3 ай бұрын

That was my first thought…thanks for clarifying :)

@Ongezellig_American 3 ай бұрын

(((Everyone)))

@BastiatC 3 ай бұрын

I suppose the insurers must have been happy with him as well

@Rhyan8282 3 ай бұрын

Why communism boomed in that era:

@ninthundertow 3 ай бұрын

My dude... the unsung heroes.

@andrewtorrens7790 3 ай бұрын

Those who see the world only through the lens of financial profit are incapable of seeing the value of human lives.

@dianapennepacker6854 3 ай бұрын

They are fully capable. In fact many actually weigh the cost of lives accurately, and come to the conclusion it is worth the risk. They just value lives less than others. In many places, and eras. Life is cheap!

@theprimordialvoid 3 ай бұрын

@@dianapennepacker6854that’s why some cultures are better than others

@moderndayvampire1469 3 ай бұрын

Nor the value of their ship, it seems.

@wasdkug_tr 3 ай бұрын

@@dianapennepacker6854that is why it is immoral

@shatterscape 3 ай бұрын

@@theprimordialvoidYou’re not even nordic.

@ktrainbow9765 3 ай бұрын

He was there to protect the Ships insurance company

@kbkimoseley 3 ай бұрын

Well part of that was also the Classification Society that checked the vessel

@sparkls4492 3 ай бұрын

@@TonySoprano-oo8wd How is that at all relevant to the comment??

@4tbf616 3 ай бұрын

@@sparkls4492 He's either joking or he's a nazi who'll take any chance to take pot shots at jews, no matter how stupid it may be in the given situation.

@mattmichael2441 3 ай бұрын

By making ships safer…

@meetadi4u 3 ай бұрын

It’s ideal capitalism at work . Removing each industry’s wrongs .

@protostryke6031 3 ай бұрын

One of the other reasons for the plimsoll line was due to how many boat owners at that time would send boats that were getting to old or damaged to continue sailing out with a full compliment of crew and take out a massive amount of insurance on it knowing it would sink, killing all onboard but getting the ship owners a massive amount of money. Sadly plimsoll's struggles would cost him a lot and lead to great suffering in his life as many people in government would also do this.

@yes-69 3 ай бұрын

that's not only insurance fraud, that's also intentionally murdering a lot of innocent people

@BigDaddyWashington 3 ай бұрын

This is one of those things that are extremely important to history that most people don't know about

@jack_T3579 3 ай бұрын

It’s cheaper to build more ships to ship than lose everything! I’m sure the guy was a pain but he saved lives!

@JustRollin 3 ай бұрын

They valued property over lives. Same story as today.

@zacmumblethunder7466 3 ай бұрын

Ships were massively overinsured, and it was not unusual for a shipping company in economic difficulty to be saved from bankruptcy by a fortuitous sinking.

@jack_T3579 3 ай бұрын

@@zacmumblethunder7466 indubitably 🥰

@creeperbait_42 3 ай бұрын

Well... For the companies who sent those ships a safety measure against sinking meant less insurance money If the ship sank they got the entire worth of the ship plus the cargo from their insurance He basically stopped the companies from committing insurance scams

@Rynewulf 3 ай бұрын

@@JustRollinnot quite, they didnt value their cargo property at all. As other commenters pointed out, insurance fraud was so common many sinkings were deliberate

@callum9352 3 ай бұрын

The red paint also has copper in it which i believe keeps out hitchhiking sea life like barnacles

@theomniscronchulonofchaosa6428 3 ай бұрын

Always thought the banded underside was just for design!

@theITGuy-no3nt 3 ай бұрын

I was taught in school that it was anti-fouling paint -- which is correct, but not the whole story.

@Leopard_211 3 ай бұрын

How would that make sense if it's always underwater

@zacmumblethunder7466 3 ай бұрын

The video shows the wrong thing. The Plimsol Line is a white mark and is only on the midship. It's a circle with a horizontal line through the middle next to a verical line with two small horizontal lines at the top left and four lines bottom right. These inducate the safe level in fresh and sea water and in different climates.

@TalonAshlar 3 ай бұрын

@@Leopard_211 when a ship is fully loaded its red lower hull section is typically underwater. And yes it was anti rust and anti fouling historically although changes in metallurgy mean that it is unnecessary as a rust guard.

@Leopard_211 3 ай бұрын

@@TalonAshlar I know? That's what I said

@ERAA-on-YT 3 ай бұрын

Wearing my plimsoll shoes now feels symbolic.

@allisonbrown1498 3 ай бұрын

And its named after him too. The plimsol line.

@WifeWantsAWizard 3 ай бұрын

A plimsoll line is not the horizontal paint on the bottom of the ship (the horizontal paint is two coats of "anticorrosive" and one coat of "antifouling" to keep the saltwater from rotting the hull). It's a much smaller vertical line just behind the prow. Kinda looks like the "height line" stickers you see inside the front doors of an American convenience store.

@zacmumblethunder7466 3 ай бұрын

@WifeWantsAWizard That's right. The Plimsoll line is white and painted mid-ship. It indicates the safe level in fresh water, salt water, and in different climates. These factors affect the density of water and, therefore, how much weight the ship can safely carry. I already had this on my clipboard from replying to another comment, hope you don't mind me adding it here.

@WifeWantsAWizard 3 ай бұрын

@@zacmumblethunder7466 By all means. The more the merrier.

@samuelluria4744 Ай бұрын

@@zacmumblethunder7466 - Fancy trick! I have no clue how to find or use a "clipboard" on this platform...

@zacmumblethunder7466 Ай бұрын

@samuelluria4744 It's a thing on my phone. I don't know _how_ it works, it's just there.

@1TakoyakiStore 3 ай бұрын

Sad thing is that cargo ship company lobbiests successfully got lawmakers to pass a law in the US that they could only pay out to victims of future disasters a certain percentage of their cargo worth, claiming that not doing so would discourage any company from wanting to take on the financial liability of hauling cargo. Don't know if it's still in place or if it only applies to shipping in the Great Lakes, but I do know this is/was a thing in thr Great Lakes.

@zacmumblethunder7466 3 ай бұрын

The Plimsoll Line is a white mark and is only on the midship. It's a circle with a horizontal line through the middle next to a verical line with two small horizontal lines at the top left and four lines bottom right. These indicate the safe level in fresh and sea water and in different climates. It is not the red paint shown in the video.

@KraftyKreator 3 ай бұрын

Ah! That is a lot clearer and make more sense. I was wondering how they determined where to put the line because what is safe depends on a number of things, this makes a lot more sense.

@robvilla622 2 ай бұрын

You can see an example of the Plimsoll line towards the end of the video engraved on his memorial

@samuelluria4744 Ай бұрын

@@robvilla622 - Good eye! Came to say this but you where already here.🫡

@glenngriffon8032 3 ай бұрын

It's rather sad to think that merchants who owned the ships probably found it less profitable to make multiple trips with properly weighted ships than lose a whole ship full of cargo and crew. Like it's more cost effective to overload a ship and sink it with all cargo and hands lost than make multiple trips. Just insane.

@BornKafir 3 ай бұрын

That's what many many heavy haulers would be doing today if D.O.T wasn't out there randomly inspecting trucks and running scales.

@pranavshinde4472 3 ай бұрын

Don't forget the insurance money. The Insurance would be more than the Ships actual Cost,Take the titanic for example.

@tesmith47 3 ай бұрын

PROFIT IS A TYPE OF INSANITY

@angiekelley2416 3 ай бұрын

God bless this man. He did the right thing and received no praise. A true and noble man.

@cyndirankin Ай бұрын

I appreciate him. My brother had a career in the Navy. So helped keep him safe.

@Carena722 3 ай бұрын

The fact that they had to have so many supplies to move that they would care about how many trips

@WinterWitch01 3 ай бұрын

Wdym?

@tomorrowisyesterday3215 3 ай бұрын

@@WinterWitch01he mean they overload the ship for less back and Forth trip instead safety of good and lives of those ppl.

@cojuk7 3 ай бұрын

A great analogy of how those who have money brake the backs of those who don’t to make more! And anyone who stands up to that injustice is demonised!

@Ky1337o 3 ай бұрын

☝️

@fierthefool8458 3 ай бұрын

I think the sailors might've liked him

@KCJbomberFTW 3 ай бұрын

That “adolescent footwear” hit hard

@Jaycobb07 3 ай бұрын

the red paint with copper also serves as protection against barnacles since if they were to build up there the slow could get significantly slower

@tammyt3434 3 ай бұрын

I just learned about this dude and love him.

@jaket2k927 3 ай бұрын

It was implimented by the Brother Johanathan disaster being one of the most fatal ship wrecks of all time of the 19th century Also the red you see on the hull is anti fouling paint.

@geeksdo1tbetter 3 ай бұрын

Do they still use a line to tell the weight?

@zacmumblethunder7466 3 ай бұрын

@@geeksdo1tbetter yes

@KraftyKreator 3 ай бұрын

I hate is anti-fouling paint?

@David-xl6vk 3 ай бұрын

I feel his pain, people hate it when you tell inconvenient truths

@daniellarge9784 3 ай бұрын

Back in the day of the spice trade the cargo was so much more valuable than the ship and crew combined losing the odd ship through overloading was a totally acceptable risk. Take Magellan. Left with 5 ships, only one returned. Still made a profit for his backers. Sure Magellan died and that one ship did the first circumnavigation of the globe but to his backers all they cared was the venture was profitable.

@simplyme8593 3 ай бұрын

And now we should all thank him for his idea & remember him (and all people who contributed in safer voyages) 🙏

@AwakeAtTheWheel 3 ай бұрын

We just refer to them as load lines now. Good information. 😊

@theITGuy-no3nt 3 ай бұрын

Holy shit! Thanks, man! This is not only something I didn't know, but it makes me curious to learn more. The world is a tiny bit better for your actions, and that is all we can ever hope to achieve.

@zacmumblethunder7466 3 ай бұрын

Google "plimsol line" to see the symbol itself, it surprised me to see what the hirizontal lines denote.

@ZzigZaG00NIN 3 ай бұрын

GRRRRRR how dare he save lives and money

@Dokattak 3 ай бұрын

Hated for saving lives… Damn greed clouds people’s eyes in horrible ways

@buddywhatshisname522 3 ай бұрын

I learned about these markets very early on as a marine engineer. I appreciate his service every time I join a ship.

@MrQuantumInc 3 ай бұрын

The actual sailors loved him, the investors who paid the sailor's salaries are the ones who hated him.

@davidmarchant9386 3 ай бұрын

Love this fact always wondered where it oringinated from

@David0lyle 2 ай бұрын

Sailors didn’t particularly dislike him. An old ship that had to be scrapped was an expense, an old ship that sunk was an insurance payout. 😕 Most sailors actually couldn’t get life insurance of their own but the shipping companies could actually insure the crew so that they could get paid if they were killed 😳. (Really!! As if there wasn’t enough incentive to skimp on life boats!) but what we can see is a nice example of just how untrustworthy the newspapers were in that era. Plimpson was painted as everything except a cannibal and they just suggested that.

@g.herbert3810 Ай бұрын

He may be the villain to Villains, but his actions saved lives. But those greedy, powerful people are where they worked Soo hard to be⚰️👹

@indoroyale7848 3 ай бұрын

Plimsol : Why are you booing me I am right ?

@MinaOmega 3 ай бұрын

Oh my God! The shoe wrapped up and baby swaddling about killed me. That was funny! Loved it!

@peterruiz6117 3 ай бұрын

WOW..I allways wondered about the painted hulls.

@Thatguy-kg3tz 3 ай бұрын

Nowadays that line is mostly for anti fowling paint which prevents barnacles from latching onto the hull

@zacmumblethunder7466 3 ай бұрын

It's not the plimsoll line, which is a whtie symbol.

@Thatguy-kg3tz 3 ай бұрын

@@zacmumblethunder7466 true, but he never actually shows a plimsoll line only anti-fowling paint

@zacmumblethunder7466 3 ай бұрын

@@Thatguy-kg3tz Yeah, it's an unusual approach to take, almost like he did minimal research before making the video.

@Thatguy-kg3tz 3 ай бұрын

@@zacmumblethunder7466 True, could have phrased my reply a bit better

@The360MlgNoscoper 3 ай бұрын

Why can’t it do both?

@1337fraggzb00N Ай бұрын

"This is where I draw the line!" - Samuel Plimsoll, Linebacker

@AceKite00 3 ай бұрын

Great minds are always persecuted.

@dnoel11 3 ай бұрын

The guy was HATED for trying to save lives?!

@therealrtx5645 3 ай бұрын

Why surprised? That's the rich after all

@alphonml6220 3 ай бұрын

Bro did what had to be done. And they hated him because he was right.

@Gum167 3 ай бұрын

That's the rich for Ya

@crazyblockkanaal 2 ай бұрын

I love these shorts

@cojuk7 3 ай бұрын

Quite a good analogy about how those that have money want to break the backs of those to don’t to make more!

@charliemcgee9803 2 ай бұрын

That red paint is a deterrent for barnacles because it is made with oxidized copper. It is called bottom paint.. Lines on the bow are for measuring draft.

@jo-we6696 2 ай бұрын

I’ve always wondered why ships painted the bottom part red. Very interesting. Thank you

@riverresident4769 Ай бұрын

Salinity and water temperature affects water density, which in turn affects buoyancy. Thus, it was relatively common to see British ships sink on there trade route with India, which start from the colder, saltier Atlantic and ends in the warmer, less salty Indian.

@jirvine00 3 ай бұрын

We once went to an odd little museum, and in one of its packed display cases was one of his jackets. I was so thrilled as he has always been one of my heroes but no one else knew who he was

@Ridz149 3 ай бұрын

Well it depends- If the owners had insurance on the ship and cargo then it makes a bit more sense to be mad at him!

@cindy.6118 3 ай бұрын

Yeah the sailor are just jetsam.

@KraftyKreator 3 ай бұрын

Well more flotsam as many were stuck going down with the ship.

@Casual-Netizen 3 ай бұрын

"Why are you booing me? I'm right!" ~Plimsoll

@williamcoon3724 3 ай бұрын

Plus the paint was eventually compromates to keep barnacles off making it even more useful

@blitzsturm5614 3 ай бұрын

He is the reason why we seafarers are safe. I mean our ultra large crude oil carrier is so sunken enough we can almost touch the ocean 😂

@edwardbeveridge2968 3 ай бұрын

This also misses that there is the plimsoll mark, which has different heights according to different waters, the idea that is is the different colour in the lower hull is i think a misinterpretation

@KraftyKreator 3 ай бұрын

How did they determine where the line should be drawn?

@Theplanettera 3 ай бұрын

He and those sailors that drowned were first victims of uncontroled capitalism

@Twin_peaks93 21 күн бұрын

I hated those plimsolls too thanks guy! 😂

@thomashisey6416 3 ай бұрын

The way this is presented may leave some people with questions as the idea here seems clever and nothing that should have offended anyone, but the reason he may have been disliked is that he was endorsing the state threaten and/or punish operators for not adopting the idea.

@Croatoan140 3 ай бұрын

If you wonder what ship art he kept using in the background it was the SS Great Eastern one of the largest ships built in the 1800s and a true marvel of engineering

@rubberneckinc.8937 3 ай бұрын

Well done Plimsoll. (Sorry if I spelled it wrong) Why to do the right thing even if unpopular.

@dwilcox3309 3 ай бұрын

Tue trade was insured, so losing the crew was no bother to them. This guy did it tonsave lives, and it took a long time to get implemented because many MPs were trading and claiming themselves

@prodbys0da 26 күн бұрын

I got bullied for wearing those in elementary school

@h0nk584 3 ай бұрын

I noticed you used the ss great eastern for the sinking ship however it didn’t sink but was scrapped

@frzstat Ай бұрын

He was probably popular with sailors

@bolam20 3 ай бұрын

I'm not entirely sure which part of a ship's hull you're talking about? If it's the waterline, that's probably what they're there for, I haven't researched in a while. If it's the often red or blue part of a vessel that is, again, often underwater, then no. That is not to mark if a vessel is too heavy. That serves as protection against barnacles, and other sea-life that can damage or cause drag against a ship's hull.

@Fishycheese99 3 ай бұрын

Small fact: the ship used to depict the greedy business owners and shown sinking is the ship SS Great Eastern, which had a comedically awful career. I won’t go in full depth but if you’re curious go look on Wikipedia or something idk.

@ScotiaAusländer 3 ай бұрын

Everyone hated margret thatcher too

@DIYToPen 3 ай бұрын

Who's the random girl shrugging? Surely it's not the narrator?

@formulahonse8696 3 ай бұрын

Please note that the thing you are talking about is called anti fauling and It was used and still is for Barnacles and other sea life not to get stuck on the bottom of the ship The more you know

@cheesenoodles8316 3 ай бұрын

Dont forget the band.

@ChristopherGriffin-ee2ol Ай бұрын

Imagine making a history-changing thing so good that everyone hated you just for existing

@TheRealRusDaddy 3 ай бұрын

Lmao im wearing that style of shoe right now!

@waldemarkirszniok298 2 ай бұрын

Poor fellow. I use the term „Plimsol mark” Frequently in my scope of work and I never even knew

@Powersnufkin 3 ай бұрын

They overloaded the ships because they were insured. IF they sank, money would be paid out for ship and cargo. Very similar to car insurance fraud today.

@christopheredwards9904 3 ай бұрын

I've noticed that many advancements made in human history required generations of development and resentment, only for them to be appreciated hundreds to thousands of years later because of how better it was.

@bluezero8557 3 ай бұрын

Losing your entire ship and cargo is awful. You can always hire more sailors for the ship though

@mjc4942 3 ай бұрын

I'd bet a few boat owners added more paint top side.

@ZowyWowy 3 ай бұрын

They made the paint they used out of copper to also keep barnacles from sticking to the bottle of the ship

@TheGentleboy13 3 ай бұрын

Poor Mr. Pimsoll, Hated by everyone for his simple idea in the Victorian Era. I like his simple idea but Man, He was ahted by Everyone in the Victorian Era.

@chickenabuser5474 3 ай бұрын

Not by everyone, only the rich who owned those ships and committed insurance fraud using them.

@Connar 3 ай бұрын

That is absolutely not the reason why ships' bellies are painted red. The plimsoll line was a circle through which a line ran and was painted near the center of the ship.

@tt8807 2 ай бұрын

I’m mostly deaf in one ear, distorts sounds. I’ve thought until this video that it was called Pimp’s sole!😂

@norwegianroads2152 3 ай бұрын

I'm not sure how the original Plimsoll line looked, but today there are usually more than one line. There are separate lines for Tropical Freshwater, Freshwater, Tropical seawater, Summer temperate seawater, Winter temperate seawater, and Winter North Atlantic, with the first being the highest on the hull and the last being the lowest

@robvilla622 2 ай бұрын

You can see an example of the Plimsoll line towards the end of the video engraved on his memorial.

@WeekndWarriorrr 3 ай бұрын

Me: Vans! Him: The Plimsoll.

@zerobomb0 2 ай бұрын

I always thought the plimsoll line was am English line on glasses in pubs. The beer has to at least hit the line to be considered filled

@aotearoa24-79 3 ай бұрын

"Makes law to save lifes a product" Companys: nuh uh !!

@jrw2electricboogaloo411 3 ай бұрын

U, what's the fact of the reason that bottom of ship is red?It's not for that it's far keeping l.G mold rot in plant life off the bottom

@nix1059 3 ай бұрын

Ah I wondered what the connection between plimsoll line and the footwear was. This is a bit quickly spoken and I find it hard to keep.up.

@williammills5597 3 ай бұрын

This is how they titanic sank. They switched the titanic for her sister ship that had gotten damaged and changed the name. Some of the wealthiest people against the federal reserve were on the titanic and their families that didn’t make it. So their wealth went away as well as their ability to put a stop to the federal reserve. The other wealthy people supposed to be on the titanic but didn’t make it J.P. Morgan. He was for the federal reserve.