Dont get tricked by fast hands (Wing Chun Advanced tips)

[@terencew.2918]

Great video. I've been doing Martial Arts for over 34 years and I can't think of anything I love more. There is a time and place for both the traditional and modern and both are useful and important. Too many people don't understand why things are done the way they are and they just do them. Understanding what you are doing and why it is done in that way is essential in understanding the difference between exercises, techniques and principals and how they can be used. Knowledge and understanding of why you do what you do are all too often overlooked because of the desire to advance as quickly as possible. Everyone is in too much of a hurry to get to their destination to enjoy the journey, in too much of a hurry to get into competition or get their black belt or whatever they are after that they don't take the time to relax, enjoy the learning process, ask questions and truly understand what they are doing, why it is done that way and how it can be used. Knowing the difference between exercises, techniques and principals is also important in understanding the difference between martial arts, combat sports and self defense and the different ways that you have to train for each as well as the different ways of thinking that each one requires. It is so important to clearly understand everything that you are taught to do and why in order to truly know what is useful in what situation and what to keep and what to throw away. Deciding that something could never work and throwing it away when it could be extremely valuable would be a great loss but if you don't understand something then it is easy to make that mistake. You will be able to perform better when you are comfortable with what you are doing and it is easier to feel comfortable with something when you understand it. You will be much better at what you do if you take the time to understand why you are doing it and how it helps you improve and grow. Take the time to understand what you do and you will enjoy the journey and arrive at your destination better prepared to take on whatever is waiting for you. You may also have a greater love and appreciation for what you have achieved. There is so much to love about martial arts whatever form it takes.

[@Getloose360]

Once you achieve your black belt you realize you know absolutely nothing.., the journey continues from there. 🙏🏿

[@questingQuentin]

​@@Getloose360What do you think of traditional martial arts masters who get their butts kicked by aspiring MMA fighters? It's like No contest. Makes it look like they've been a phony all along...

[@zyx7478]

After one minute watching this gentleman move I automatically subscribed

[@TheOGJeff]

So glad to see someone on KZbin who teaches very similar to how I was taught bagua

[@jasonrice2592]

Thats nice

[@Simon2k17]

General rule for empty hand forms. Any terminology that ends with hand, palm, fist, or leg is usually a technique. Any terminology that has stance, sinking, breath, or Chinese medicine is usually an exercise. Fancy elaborate Chinese names that's an analogy, I would say a majority would be techniques. Finally anything slow motion is mainly internal exercise. There are exceptions to all these rules, but I think it's fairly accurate.

[@sammread1623]

Breathing and stance are techniques though

[@sebobelzil4206]

1 year later! Just found your work and channel. I'm hooked! Yes. I totally agree also with the practical side of things that does consider an exercise for what it is. An other way of saying: be absolutely mindful, present in your exercise, so when the time comes, your body generates the flow, inner flow that you need. Thank you Adam.

[@jashardwallington]

Your channel is the best

[@origin4125]

Thank you, try to incorporate all aspects applicable. As soon as funds are available I'll be signing up. My aim is to maximize my potential in all aspects of life, learning to, anyways. Recovering addict so having to rebuild my life. Thank you for your knowledge

[@deepdwellerthekonundrum0029]

More awesome instructions from you guys. I've been a practicing traditional and syncratic Wing Chun systems for almost 30 years. Spot on! I love your channel. Keep up the great work.

[@halterrill9475]

This video was very helpful to me . It’s interesting that beyond being practical for self defense a lot of Wing a Chun movements have benefits to muscle memory and balance

[@romainverbrouck5147]

Awesome video adam, thank you :). I like the idea of getting the best out of the two different approaches...

[@DimO6L6D6]

Thank you for another AWESOME video!

[@simonlb6435]

I'm happy someone explained the difference between exercice and technique

[@blasgarcia1454]

You just got a subscriber, that was real talk real movements for those that are into quick hand martial arts.

[@shietiero]

Simply outstanding! Individual martial arts are not better or worse than one another; competency comes down to the practitioner. When we identify the crossover between training practices and practical application, a powerful and new product comes about! Thank you so much for breaking this down and connecting the dots below the surface-level. Wonderful content!

[@ChrisOakesCO]

If your opponent is faster than you use some sneaky tricks, set up with a fake to throw them off balance an distract them an then strike from another position. Only for protection of course! 🙏🏼

[@yisraelaker6825]

Thanks for valuable lesson sifu

[@dwayne7005]

Thank you. Once again your insight is extremely helpful. We are constantly doing the shift drills. I thought this was only to get us to coordinate our bodies and generate power. I never knew that exercise helps with speed also. However, this instantly made sense.

[@geldeddonkey7320]

Hi Adam Ive studied Tong Long and one master told me how the Chinese training on stoned floors over years have worn done the stones into dips due to their stance . What you showed with the twists would have to be one of those movements .when your whole body uses Chi it is very powerful. We use the horse stance a lot and it is very hard to move an experienced practitioner.Really like your videos Wing Chun has much similarity to Southern Tong Long. Hard to find a good Wing Chun master where I live so videos have given me a lot. Thankyou 🇦🇺 Scott

[@lionmartialartsacademy4014]

Agreed. TMA has a way of conditioning the body for certain movements in order to be able to pull off the technique and most times the conditioning has some technique in there but it’s not the totality of the technique or how it should be applied in fighting. Really basic is horse stance whether wc or other arts it helps strengthen the legs the abductors and improved flexibility in order to throw more powerful side kicks roundhouses or for takedowns and sweeps, gives you a great base but horse stance itself you can’t fight in it but i believe as you said if you can work from a weaker position and make that strong then you can definitely do it from a strong position

[@chrisipacs2091]

This helps my JKD .Thank you Sir

[@patrickgibbons4560]

Excellent explanation of wing chun. a matter of fact of martial arts on a whole that makes sense..

[@CasshernCasshern]

my lineage is wong sheun leung and most of other lineages videos that i see (exept chu song tin) doesnt make any sense to me,but your explantion and vids in me eyes are most of the time the wsl way.many similaritys!very well made vids btw,keep up the good work!

[@patrickgibbons4560]

Excellent explanation of wing chun. a matter of fact of martial arts on the whole.thats just sense..

[@thelittledojo]

Excellent.

[@robertbrozewicz8003]

Sure, very true... Like high kicks .. They may be used or not but are very good exercises for suppleness and so on..

[@shaolin7426]

Very well Explained... The problem with most of the Wing Chun & other Martial arts teachers is that they make things compilacated.. & @ the end of the day they r able to confuse rather than to educate.. This is were you stand out of the Crowd... Good job done.🙏

[@downloadqi]

Excellent information as usual. I am really enjoying the drill you demonstrated some weeks back of the pivoting in place. I combine it with Wing Chun knife defense blocks. I also appreciate the focus on body alignment & position. Connects alot with the wisdom I have learned from Chen Tai Chi & Aikido over the years. Respect!

[@simonross6201]

terrific lesson thanks

[@DavidStLoe]

Hey Adam, great to see that your still going strong! Your friend, David Polk.

[@Ten_Mil_Will]

Another great video, Adam! People are quick to discard "techniques" they do not understand the purpose of. I always remind myself - I might not see the point, but someone long ago did, they just might know something I don't yet. I hope to meet (and train with) you, in person, one day. Been showing my wife pictures of your city saying "wouldn't this be a nice place to vacation?" 😀

[@bigdog5177]

Thank you - this helps crystallizes a lot that I have learned. :)

[@Jungle.D.OutDoors]

Very well said master I am a Kung fu practitioner and teacher as well and I just love the way you put that out there. I would love to learn lot from you to help me grow. Thank you for your video .

[@kungpowchickenwing]

I think the siu lim tau twisting exercise is essential for the proper punch in winch chun. But this isn’t because of speed. It’s because wing chun sacrifices power and punch length for quickness and we need to compensate by generating more body force in our punch.

[@aguslugiman9067]

Thank you so much for the information 🥰

[@MasterOfMyUniverse]

I am constantly learning, thank you. I just subscribed.

[@hamadalrowaie6882]

🖐🤩 five stars !! 🖐👺 a new subscriber here 🤗❤

[@rodgerhempfing2921]

Good point.

[@palmer3977]

Brilliant Adam.

[@vinceparlante3723]

As always? Great video . I have a request unless ? You've already covered it? Could you do a video ? On the Qi gong and the principle and application when applied in Wing chun ? Thank you.

[@НадеждаБутенко-т3я]

It is more good elegant work. Thanks 👍

[@jeffstewart7105]

Great stuff Adam!

[@freddyr.753]

Good job sir. As always.

[@hosehuang8565]

🤓 It makes a world of difference 👍🏼 Wether or not you use the core is the difference between hitting with your arm strength or hitting with your entire body weight and chi (ki). Thanks again Senior Brother Adam, great explanations 😎

[@gimzola]

Great explanation regarding the pivot, also agree that the application of it is completely separate as to why one may also train this. I notice allot of these simple exercises then translate later to the Muk Yan Jong form.

[@nestorreyes5253]

well said!

[@alswedgin9274]

Beautiful 🙏

[@ChrisOakesCO]

Awesome thanks!

[@geldeddonkey7320]

Adam thank you, I do beach walks doing single hand techniques doing breathing / chi exercises it works core and gives me a deeper understanding of the techniques . It also adds to speed and timing with feet to hands . looks nutty to most but it is a great opportunity for practise. 🇦🇺 scott

[@craneandcobraclosecombat]

Excellent!!

[@mattpatterson6219]

In Certain schools this is simply called Grounding, when I went from Wing Chun to Kuntow Silat, they taught us to also use Bagwan, which is really good training.

[@robertmedsker5305]

I said this many times I've been involved in the martial arts for about 40 years now ultimately it's about movement you simply have to find the best way for yourself to move and then decide what is that movement for as you said exercise or fighting

[@calmwater2529]

This is dead on.

[@angelorosini4326]

Can you make a video on how to move forward attacking angling zig zag footwork punching instead of just moving straight forward with chain punching?

[@stevemcgowan9420]

I give the same analogy Sifiu in my class to my students.

[@mistermindahenziandalasnus3754]

1:10 is impressive. 👏

[@Darkfredor]

Merci.

[@WingChunBoyz]

When I first started wing chun, all I did was pivot shifting with punches and hitting the wall bag. My teacher just told me to practice it. There’s hitting fast with no power and there’s hitting with structure. And also don’t look at your hands but look at your target as it will engage your spring.

[@jarrodpelrine7229]

I noticed your weight is on your heels while shifting is that a strict law for you and is it ever on the center or balls of the feet please create a video on this topic I've been asking different Wing Chun Sifu's on KZbin this exact question and can't find consensus thanks 🙏

[@joe3973]

Looks like snap of the hips to generate power through the flow of hands explosive’s .

[@fabianoaq4777]

Brow !! invites Jeff Chan to spar with him and shows that Wing Chun is efficient

[@Hotpocketmountiandew]

Exactly

[@ivebeensick]

Hi Adam Do you recommend the rattan rings for Solo Training? Thanks and regards Robert

[@johntay3831]

If u look at how Mas Oyama punches, it is not fast. It is perfectly timed, accurate and good technique

[@jashardwallington]

Interesting

[@jmrd070191]

Kata Kiron Kumite - we can learn that from karate and apply to wing chun ! Shifting is the first thing we learn in my academy !

[@Alistair7195]

Is your course translated into Spanish and other languages? or just english? Thank u

[@TheLuconic]

My mentality is this is my training. Now many people say oh I’m using traditional or the modern strikes and such. To me it’s all training. Different? Maybe. Effective? Depends on what you are using it for. When in a fight, you not gonna say ok I’m going to use this modern strike here but use a traditional strike when he comes at me. No. It’s just training at that point. You shouldn’t group your knowledge like that in a fight of any kind. Let a strike be a strike and a grab be a grab. I’m not saying completely abandon what they are, no. You should give credit when it’s due like when someone asks, is that traditional you can say yes. But in the end, we all have arms and legs. Don’t focus on titles. They have their place but don’t let it be dominant.

[@thevillageyid]

Question about shifting. Do both of your feet move simultaneously or does one move first then the other moves a split second later? I'm currently training and as a beginner when we practice our shifting we move one foot first then the other almost a split second after. Once there is progression it becomes one movement. Do different schools/teachers teach shifting differently?

[@a.i.s.musicgroup577]

They both move simultaneously

[@anatoliyminchev9671]

The mane idea in Chum Kiu...

[@freddavis6348]

I've practiced a wide variety of Martial arts for most of my life. My favorite motto: Tread carefully and carry a big stick.

[@kungpowchickenwing]

That was from Theodore Roosevelt. He was a boxer

[@axelstone3131]

Sounds like you were doing it wrong

[@perrypelican9476]

You said something so important that the training, including forms are part of becoming a good fighter. Doing nose things train you to have better skills. You don't fight using forms and push-ups. But doing those things improve and strengthen your fighting skills. Just do the training because the movements have been proven over centuries to be effective to make your fighting skills better. Read Bruce Lee's ideas. He was soooo smart.

[@Winnie_ThePooh8964]

real fight with MMA fighter?

[@natalefroia5236]

Yes be like water Move as one ❤️

[@raylouis6798]

*COOL LESSON BRO. THE GREATEST EXERCISE TO PRACTICE TECHNIQUE IS TO CONDITION YOUR BODY IN A POOL OF WATER. WHY OR HOW YOU MIGHT ASK? SWIMMING IN WATER AND PRACTICING TECHNIQUE IN WATER WILL STRENGTHEN ALL THE FINE MUSCLE FIBERS IN YOUR BODY( YOUR BODY IS ONLY AS STRONG OR AS FAST AS YOUR WEAKEST MUSCLES) AND AT THE SAME TIME YOU ARE GAINING STAMINA AND WORKING ON YOUR BREATHING. ANOTHER BENEFIT OF SWIMMING IS TO SWIM AFTER LIGHT WIEGHT TRAINING OR BODY EXERCISES TO HELP RELAX THE MUSCLES AND GAIN FASTER MUSCLE TWITCH.*

[@rainguy2411]

First!!! There could be only one

[@bugnyablasta8783]

Ali jumped that rope-a-dope in tha ring

[@stevenedmund5680]

I also think he shifting is good for multiple close opponents in a closed space ...elevator ...bar ...dance floor .....haunted fun house with zombies ? last one was to be funny.

[@outofthebox7]

Actually you are moving your body real fast, it's just point A and point B are very close and it might give the wrong impression of being slow. Explosion of any body part (waste, knees, elbows, etc.) is ALWAYS FAST. Please do think about it.

[@filmawayvlad]

🙏

[@misterlau5246]

Fast hand to distract but I'm kicking opponent's knee, or easier, keeping distance and observe.. Going like Pegasus meteor punch with only what, elbow power, I've seen that. And there's no way to generate power without ROOTING, the force transmits from and to the GROUND so without correct structure and everything else that seems to be boring, makes the difference between effective and efficient movement, 🖖

[@SUF-py4ix]

Examine what are exercises and what are techniques. Wish you had of expanded on that more. I can think of 1000 chain punches as being an exercise. In the knife form each section starts with 4 biu’s or Kwun’s they are exercises. Double fak sau again an exercise.

[@MustAfaalik]

Think of the last few punches of the 1000's as the most important. How do you FEEL when you stop thinking.

[@roninnovastar1321]

Adam your a great instructor !!! I would like too see you & students in formal kung fu apparel when training in school, jeans and tee shirts just seems too casual looking, just my opinion, also I have not seen any dummy instruction from you, can you show ? Thanks for good instructional videos !!

[@asrandomastheycome82]

It may be cause he's teaching more realistic and practical use of the art and training the art in tradition kung fu clothes is unrealistic... just my opinion

[@roninnovastar1321]

@@asrandomastheycome82 So are you saying that people that wear uniforms in martial arts are practicing unrealistic martial arts ? If you do, then I think that is an absurd assessment, the uniform give more credibility to teachers & students in my opinion.

[@palnagok1720]

You train in gear that you wear every day , no special clothing is necessary , to do the moves. It depends upon the individual. Who cares about how you look ? ...only people who are into style. Substance is important , not style.

[@roninnovastar1321]

@@palnagok1720 Once saw a video of a girl doing Samurai moves really outstanding display of skill !! in a Mary Popins outfit, the mary popins outfit destroyed the whole look of it, and harmed the appearance of the art. Serious skill stupid look. Professional schools should aim for professional look, student chef are required to wear chef uniforms, pro football players have uniform, basketball, nascar, soccor players, ect ect the uniform signifies a higher standard than the regular old joe street mentality, of course people should be able to fight in the clothes they are wearing at the time of an incident but thats not the point,, Anybody that's providing professional services generally strives for professional appearance to boot,, to set themselves apart from the ordinary. Style plays a big part in martial arts thats why they call it Martial ARTS not just Martial.

[@palnagok1720]

@@roninnovastar1321 ...your badges , uniform ,belts , sashes , certificates ,trophies will not protect you in the street but superior skill is all that counts...believe whatever you want. Fighting is for fighting . Martial arts is a general term. There is too much bullshido around with all the macdojos. Style is just about marketing which is fine if you are selling a label .I will leave you to your Gucci martial arts. Style is a mindset that is often limiting.

[@danielchow1975]

Excellent, false dichotomy between modern vs traditional.

[@KeithMosherSifu]

Chi Sao is not fighting. ;) (Exercise versus Application.)

[@HENZI-cv7re]

1:08

[@christinehanson8627]

That's only external wc. Not internal wing chun. U been had pilgrim

[@mirkopanichi461]

I am a scientific guy, but I do not think that a scientific, modern approach in martial arts is the only way... if decades (if not centuries) of "traditional" use of the body in fighting has worked well, specially in wing chun, there is not a valid reason to throw it out the window... if it works, it works, even if the ancient masters did not know even a bit of anatomy, muscular biochemical, etc. Simple like it seems.

[@kracksmith4ejm1]

not sure how you train your hands so fast.

[@RAPINCITE]

Do the basic reps slowly. All the work $ exercise that no one wants to do.

[@michaelbradley7529]

This all looks great when you're going against an opponent that freezes after the first movement and attacks exactly the way you tell them to. smh Which is why Wing Chun is never used in full contact pro fights. We've seen many times what happens when a Wing Chun master who goes up against an MMA fighter. I'm confident the same result would happen against a proficient street fighter.

[@Murcielag0scuro]

Then please take a look at this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/laWpkmCJe8xqn6M Qi La La has only trained Wing Chun and a bit of BJJ because it's sort of a necessity in MMA, but he's all Wing Chun striking. Wing Chun works, but it just needs to be trained the right way.

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

@@Murcielag0scuro yeah every art works if you train it right, and that's kind if what "Michael Bradley" said! He said that wing chun trained agaisnt someone that freezes and that attacks you in a fixed way will not work, which is true to some point

[@wingchunkungfuwins]

This chris dude always acts like it hurts.....there is no pain if you turn it into something else

[@stevelawson911]

Big motion. speed??? A contradiction Speed is relaxed simple direct

[@ad846]

Echo and no diction... Difficult to follow....

[@illuminatedperspectives2894]

ALL THAT SLAPPING AINT GONNA HELP U IN A REAL FIGHT. LEARN TO THROW REAL PUNCHES WITH POWER AND SLIP AND BLOCK PUNCHES. THIS IS WHY WING CHUN IS GARNAGE. BOXING IS SUPERIOR

[@paulogrady5081]

This is external wc not real internal wing chun This person is a fake

[@santanav.4504]

Respectfully, this fancy stuff would do a better job of getting you hurt than actually helping you survive a real fight.

[@thedarkkontroller8160]

U better off trying than just up and fighting

[@mightymeatmonsta]

No traditional?? LOL! YES, there is traditional and it's way better than your system because it is COMPLETE, unlike your system! You know why? It's because your system is incomplete, missing crucial elements that makes it work properly, including the angled footwork and body rotation towards the attack, and the use of ALL TEN CONCEPTS! You know, the ten concepts, that are the guideline, or outline for the systems PROPER USE? It dictates the proper response to any attack! It also takes out ALL initial flaws and stiffness found in your system and ALL BOXING DERIVATIVES! It also gives this system AMAZING FLEXIBILITY that your system doesn't have because you only use six or seven concepts instead of ALL TEN AT ONCE, which adds flaws and stiffness. Bruce Lee himself even said that EXACT SAME STATEMENT, and he was right. But he was WRONG trying to add flawed, stiff and rigid boxing systems to his MODIFIED WING CHUN. That only added MORE flaws and stiffness to his SECOND-RATE SYSTEM! YOU CANNOT ADD ANYTHING THAT IS NOT WING CHUN TO YOUR WING CHUN, IT DESTROYS THIS GREAT SYSTEM, ADDING UNWANTED FLAWS AND STIFFNESS (this includes using the hook, which is not Wing Chun because of the outward elbow)! THE ONLY REASON HE WAS ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH IT WAS BECAUSE OF HIS SUPER HUMAN SPEED AND POWER, WHICH HE LEARNED FROM WING CHUN!! All boxing derivative systems have inherent flaws, such as overcommital of a response, having to torque up and go way past center (which causes an opening you can exploit), and putting some or all of the weight on the front leg, making it easy to unbalance him and break his structure, and the use of LINEAR (straight in) footwork, which leaves them (and you modified guys) vulnerable to the hook. And the use of techniques instead of ten concepts to dictate response also causes tension in the muscles that slows speed and response time, and causes fatigue. This is why, if you know the whole system in Wing Chun, you don't have to be in great shape, because the system is so efficient, you use very little energy. Another difference between both systems (the traditional and the modified) is the traditional is complete, and has Wing Chun grappling that uses Wing Chun's ten concepts, again making it more efficient and effective for the streets. Also, we are taught to watch the front elbow and knee, which moves first, telegraphing the attack. This is because the elbow and knee move at HALF SPEED to the hand or foot when doing a jab or front kick, and ONE QUARTER SPEED when doing a hook or side kick. If you watch the hand or foot, it is too fast and you won't react in time to catch it. If you watch the eyes, shoulder or waist, you can be fooled by a feint. That is another reason that makes traditional so much better than the modified version and why it works much better in the streets than modified does.

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

Noooo! Now i gotta read all of that :'(

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

I disagree in so many things lol To be honest, you sound like someone that has never sparred. Look, for starters: not every boxing stance puts weight on their front leg and even when they do it doesn't mean that you can just unbalance them! I started Judo when i was 4 years old and let me tell you that there are ways to balance while being in many kinds of stances, those include the boxing ones. Bruce lee did not have super human speed or super human strength, he wasn't that great of a fighter either. He was a good performer and an awesome martial arts philosopher (at the time, because the stuff that he spoke about doesn't seem all that great when you look back on it), so saying that he only got away with modifying wing chun because he had super human capabilities is down right wrong Adding techniques from other arts doesn't mess up wing chun, that's super untrue in so many ways, like for example: A: if you add standing grappling techniques (like ones from Judo, Sambo or Taijiquan) you can just shift from Wing Chun to your grappling art when needed, which will not mess anything up B: Wing Chun doesn't incorporate ground fighting, so Judo or BJJ techniques will need to be used if you ever find yourself fighting on the ground. C: Jab punches are necessary (try to prove me wrong, i dare you) when fighting an skilled individual, and those are not present on Wing Chun (at least not on the style i practiced) so you'll need to take them from another martial art like Boxing. D: "you can find stiffness and flaws in all boxing derivatives" that's arguably untrue because every good boxer will tell you to not be stiff, so if you find a stiff boxer, it just meas that they need improving. While the "flaws" are just a weird concept, you can't posibly perform perfect attacks/moves/defenses, such things do not exist in any art. So you're saying that every move of your system is flawless and that there is no way of countering them? Is that it? Anyways, like i said, i'm mainly a Judoka but i have practiced many, many martial arts. Anyways, i do not know about the 10 concepts that you are mentioning so much. But the angled footwork is already found in martial srts like boxing lol, you even said that their footwork is direct which is is arguably wrong because not every boxer fights in the same way, did you see Muhammad Ali fighting with a direct footwork? No? Lol exactly, and that was why he was such a great boxer. The "body rotations towards the attack" principle is already found in many martial arts like Aikido, Judo, Boxing and System so yeah, you're super wrong in everything i can remember you said.

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

LMAO, if you ask anyone with common sense, they will tell you that looking at the knees or at the leg will yield the same effect when trying to react to a kick, which also means that looking at their elbows, arms and shoulders will also do the same. I also must disagree with the whole "watching the shoulders makes you fall for feints" thing. Because while watching the elbows during a (good) feint, you'll see the same motion of a real strike so you will fall for it anyways lmao. You're saying that your system allows you to not have tension in the muscles so you get faster reaction times and will generate less fatigue, and you know what? Doing that is legit!! But what you got wrong is that every other style does that same thing LOL. Look at any MMA or Boxing Gym, at any Karate dojo and you'll hear the instructors shouting "relax! You're too stiff" or "you're too tense! Relax that guard!" Being relaxed is not a secret, everybody knows it, so it is only natural that the other martial arts also train such thing. Now then, you said something about "having torque up and go way past center (which causes an opening you can exploit)" and you are once againt only right to a certain point. Creating torque is also present in traditional Wing Chun, you dummy!! And anyways, if you torque past center then that's because you over committed to a strike (which depending the case, might be a good thing to do) but if you are just throwing a "one, two" (jab, cross) then there is no reason to torque past center, making your statement fall once again in the "you just saw a bad boxer" category. And overcommital is not exactly a bad thing, it depends on the scenario and momment. You can't over commit to an attack if your opponent is just standing in a perfect posture because they will use your strenght agaisnt you and unbalance you! But if they are block too much or slowly backing away, it might be just the right thing to throw a over commited punch to go through their guard or to catch them while they move backwards!

[@mightymeatmonsta]

@@jestfullgremblim8002 No you won't. Watching the front elbow and knee is the right way because the elbow and knee travel at half speed during a straight punch or kick, and one quarter speed during a hook or side kick, which allows you to see the attack coming, otherwise, if you watch the hand or foot, it will be too fast for you to catch up with. No, you won't see the same motion watching the shoulder because it gives you a fake attempt that will cause you to react. If you watch the elbow and knee, you will be able to catch up with it and the front won't be effective. WRONG!! ONLY WING CHUN TEACHES THE PRINCIPLES OF RELAXATION BEFORE HAND! All others that use the HORIZONTAL FIST are dislocating the arm from the shoulder socket, causing a major drop in power. This is why boxers need to torque up to get ANY power, and WING CHUN does not!! This is why we can produce power from ONE INCH AWAY, and boxers cannot! We don't need to torque up to make power because of the VERTICAL FIST, which keeps the arm in the socket, allowing for full power to flow down the arm to the fist. No other system uses this along with ten concepts, which takes out ALL INHERENT FLAWS FOUND IN ALL BOXING DERIVATIVE SYSTEMS!!! This means that there is no stiffness either, again, like All boxing derivative systems!! This is what makes TRADITIONAL WING CHUN (AND TRADITIONAL WING CHUN ONLY!!), THE BEST, AND MOST COMPLETE, SYSTEM ON THE PLANET! Over Committal is a bad thing because you are committing yourself to one move. This means you must finish the move, pull back the hands to the starting position, reset the stance, then throw the next technique. In WING CHUN, we NEVER over commit, always maintaining balance, so we can change our technique in mid-stride, without having to reset our hands and stance, something NO BOXING DERIVATIVE can do!! Again, this is one of MANY reasons why Traditional WING CHUN is superior to ALL OTHER SYSTEMS,!!

[@jestfullgremblim8002]

@@mightymeatmonsta bruh like i said, Wing Chun also teaches to torque up while punching. And relaxation is indeed taught in every other style, how can you say that that's wrong when that's the first thing that they teach in so many Karate styles? Lol Looking at the elbows yields the same result, stop saying nonsense and look it up! That's just common sense, do you really need something to be slow for you to react to it? Unless it is a small insect that moves super fast, you won't need it to be slow. If you already know what your opponent is gonna throw (which is usually unrealistic), you can react to it with the slightest move they make, not just by looking at the elbows. And remember that you can not look at the elbows and knees at the same time, you gotta learn to react without doing any of that. Please listen to yourself, you are never inmune to feints! If you are looking for a expecific move of my elbow, i can replicate that move but not throw any attack! And if you try to wait for the last minute to be sure that it is a real attack, you will not have enough time to defend agaisnt the attack. It literally doesn't make any sense! You will have the same reaction time no matter what part the *upper* body you look towards! Your explanation is "the hands will be too fast so you will not be able to catch up with them" but that is dumb, you don't need to know exactly what they're doing, you just need to react to it. That's exactly what you do while you look at the elbows, you dummy! As you are looking at the elbows, you aren't catching up to what their hands are actually doing, so you end up in the same situation. Stop saying nonsense and do your research

[@jimgray3136]

Thank God your student stands still, Kung Fu hahahahaha

[@bustamango863]

Sorry but this is nonsense I don’t doubt you are pretty tough but this is cosplay.