Jazz Musician Sucks at Metal (w/ Rob Scallon)

[@AdamNeely]

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[@johnbuhrmanfegan]

Good looking out

[@Soundwrecker]

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[@darthpotato4599]

Rob has played so many instruments now he's moved on to playing musicians.

[@distantsails]

UNDERRATED COMMENT

[@metincanaknc8122]

damn dude so true

[@user-ni7ui7hs8c]

Hahahahahahhaha

[@thekylehighclub]

This comment deserves a Nobel prise.

[@thrash1337]

Dude you have me in tears

[@robscallon]

Ok, Adam looks awesome with a low hanging 7 string

[@ideitbawxproductions1880]

Adam: "I DID A METAL!"

[@eboone]

In before 12 year olds come with their “12 hOuRs aGo??”

[@5urg3x]

You look great without the tim pool beanie dude. Just saying.

[@Jeteso2009]

Muhamed Suicmez vibes

[@gitarisbat]

And that power stance tho

[@roodsound]

"That's all the time we have for bass" has most definitely been said in the studio while tracking a metal album

[@jedinxf7]

it was said at the beginning of recording ... And Justice For All

[@roodsound]

@@jedinxf7 the interviews about that album are hilarious. Lars had such a stick up his ass!

[@DaveYognaut]

The only thing that was different about this case is that it was said by the bassist themself

[@hman2912]

🤣🤣 every time

[@gandalf8216]

Depressed bass player: "why they give the drums three days? they hate it, but still prefer doing drums over bass, oooooh I'M A MESS"

[@marmiteghost]

*Adam's coaching style:* Music professor with degrees and plaques on top of his wall-to-wall shelf full of vinyl *Rob's coaching style:* Dewey Finn from School of Rock

[@James-nz5iw]

Both valid

[@Knifeawatermelon]

Hearing the very talented Adam Neely sound like a 13 year old at guitar center put a huge smile on my face.

[@jellyjub1690]

HAHA

[@joshhardin666]

"Musicians should go to a yard sale and buy an old fucking drum set and get in their garage and just suck. And get their friends to come in and they'll suck, too. And then they'll fucking start playing and they'll have the best time they've ever had in their lives and then all of a sudden they'll become Nirvana. Because that's exactly what happened with Nirvana. Just a bunch of guys that had some shit old instruments and they got together and started playing some noisy-ass shit, and they became the biggest band in the world. That can happen again!" --Dave Grohl

[@bapewizard]

@@joshhardin666 nah that’s more of ween.

[@tphtgm]

It's proof that everyone does start bad, even the greats

[@alwaysabiggafish3305]

It's us being taught Jazz

[@conorheduvan]

Rob’s double kick tap dancing needs to be addressed, it’s pretty impressive!

[@tito9107]

Rob Scallon Tap Dance Extravaganza

[@radutopor8389]

gangnam style

[@conorheduvan]

@@tito9107 coming to a venue near you this November!

[@DJKr15py]

Now I wanna see him do tap dance metal with tap shoes instead of kick

[@sagadiablo]

He's like a jolly leprechaun running away with that pot of gold, I love it.

[@ProgressiveBoink]

I can see Rob teaching midwest hardcore to a class of elementary school kids.

[@duon44]

School of Hardcore

[@XMarkxyz]

They should make a movie out of a similar idea, it would be an istant classic

[@Jmilillo]

Rob invented a genre

[@philobetto5106]

CRT...Critical...Rage...Therapy

[@RustyShackleford_]

This is literally a jack black movie

[@VaSoapman]

This sounded like a bunch of teenagers with guitars in a basement. The exact sound of someone's first Metal song. In other words, it is perfect.

[@clarkcant4818]

bury your dead sounded like a bunch of high schoolers that learned to play their instruments the day they recorded their first record lmao, you're spot on sometimes that sound scratches an itch other stuff doesn't

[@rinzler4841]

yeap

[@JonSudano]

Still a better drummer than 90% of first-timers

[@bandmember8720]

i love you

[@vecrisv]

Well, at least shuts up when bass/guitar are tuning lmao

[@ling2553]

@Qefna Ija That’s crazy bro, but I have no recollection of asking you.

[@Roxanneredpanda]

and 50% of actual metal drummers

[@aarondavis4341]

Of course he would be..THEIR FIRST TIMERS...1ST!

[@Looom.208]

you know he's not a guitar player because he's not rushing

[@LONGname46]

Rob said find the groove and Adam totally went for the pocket 😂😂

[@FizzyK-45]

Adam yelling "I love my mom" aggressively is amazing and hilarious, what a fun collab.

[@izzieh9342]

MOMMY! YOU'RE THE! BEST FOR! MEEEEEEEEEEE!

[@JacobLukasiewicz]

Would be more funny if he sang " I love YOUR mom!" XD

[@starbound03]

Was honestly surprised at how good he sounded. Wasn’t too bad.

[@LitCast]

He sounded a bit like Oliver Tree and it threw me off lmao

[@retrorebootmusic]

Honestly sounded weirdly like JonTron to me

[@jonathanpacemusic]

11:04 is a rite of passage for all new metal musicians: realizing that that cool riff you wrote has already been done by Metallica.

[@michaeltagor4238]

new? even Metallica themselves did this lol

[@cheskaarana6097]

Can someone please tell me which song Rob was perhaps referring to?

[@MrDistortion1]

​@@cheskaarana6097 I think it should be sad but true

[@DarkLordLinkOfficial]

@@cheskaarana6097 maybe harvester of sorrow?

[@Archaeopteryxgordo]

@@cheskaarana6097 Sad but true

[@sungong8052]

I think Adam's background with Jazz would make him a natural at composing Doom Metal, but that probably wouldn't be as funny as watching him struggle to play Hardcore.

[@jamiel6005]

I need him to seriously compose a doom metal song, mainly because I have no idea where to look for good doom metal and have total faith in his abilities

[@kirehj_sm]

actually a Prog style would be like candyland for him

[@villutamm3895]

@@jamiel6005 Have you listened to candlemass?

[@jacobtapianieto9655]

Prog or jazz fusion (e.g. with a Holdsworth-like solo).

[@Skeleton_Dork]

@@kirehj_sm In terms of composition, absolutely. But playing... uh...

[@Irquiois]

Now Adam just needs fullsleeve tattoos and a completely unrelated PhD in natural sciences to become the guitarist in a progressive metal band that receives a 4.5/5 from Kerrang! for the debut album.

[@ardnys35]

and a blue 1960 fiat 500!

[@Irquiois]

@Paul Mina Storm Hey, I'm not making fun of Adam here, the man COMMITTED. I'm making fun of progressive metal!

[@JohnMicius]

​@@ardnys35 lmao

[@howtomeetwomen-]

Why is that PhD thing so true though

[@tysoncurtis2646]

“unrelated PhD in natural sciences” made me laugh

[@adriantomo5688]

seeing a proficient jazz musician so happy learning chugga chugga on a 7 string guitar made me smile

[@datutturugang666]

chugga chugga is love, chugga chugga is life

[@aidanmahoney9865]

Live, Laugh, Chugs McNuggets

[@tommylight1312]

@@aidanmahoney9865omg I need a live laugh chug sign in my house.

[@SometimesCompitent]

Listening to how good the guitars sounded with the drums sounding so ass was hilarious. It’s like his mom made him let his kid brother sit in during band practice.

[@soxpeewee]

Hence the song

[@reeceshaffer29]

Metallica

[@GreenGiant400]

Someone needs to give Rob Scallon a medal for bringing out the most emotion I've ever seen in Adam Neely during the vocals.

[@asherplatts6253]

Adam Neely loves his mom

[@PeterMetzger]

@@asherplatts6253 so was it Rob that brought out the emotion? Or Adam's mom?

[@asherplatts6253]

@@PeterMetzger Have you ever seen Adam interview his mom on his channel?

[@SEATACx]

Loving the "band practice after school" vibes this has.

[@SlyHikari03]

Hehe. Yup

[@Hainbach]

I love everything about this video.

[@dxtxzbunchanumbers]

Good to have you back

[@fernbear3950]

*Everybody's here!*™️

[@JESUSCHRIST-ONLYWAYTOHEAVEN]

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[@fernbear3950]

In all seriousness, this song from these two lovelies does have that feel to me like the elements you'd generally find within HeinbachSpace. It's a bit esoteric of a moniker. In short -- in a field I work in, we have a concept of an information space called a latent space. It's like a storage unit in higher dimensions, the higher dimensions let more concepts "live next to" each other without crowding each other out. Which makes it simpler to organize. You can move a thing to higher and higher dimensions, and it gets closer to basically having each dimension being a slider for each attribute, or you can be more space-efficient and pack it into lower dimensions, but your "volume slider" path for different attributes is quite wiggly and curvy because everything is squashed in. Okay now we can get to the mathematical concept of HeinbachSpace™️. That would be the area within a stylistic latent space that corresponds most to what you make, which is pretty unique. Interestingly, a synthesizer is a very constrained, disentangled subset of the full set of attributes of the infinite-dimensional universal stylistic latent space, with each knob adjusting one dimension. Getting more equipment lets you "map out" more possibilities in this space by "unlocking" certain dimensions. Some overlap, and some are new. And that is very cool. Since any song maps to a single point in the latent space, you can measure the distance from this containing area in the space from any particular point. The higher dimensional the space, the more meaningful (and clear) a straight line between any song and HeinbachSpace ™️ would be. In fact, if you played a song interpolating between any two point out of HeinbachSpace ™️ into HeinbachSpace ™️ for a given song, you would end up with something very similar to what your own unique rendition would be. That's one reason neural networks can be so uncannily good at times, because they're able to learn a good approximation to that latent space for whatever reason. Latent spaces are a fun tool for anything, though, as they allow for a lot of cool stuff. For example, letting anything (basically, in theory) to interpolate towards anything else. Neural networks are quite cool, and the recent work with unsupervised data stuff has allowed for excellent latent space interpolation stuff to happen. I'm not sure if it's entirely on brand, and I don't have an immediate recommendation, but I think you might enjoy having access to some combination of mapping of your current work to establish some particular subspace, PCA-type analysis to establish the primary dimensions, then discovery to find new dimensions similar to the areas you already know and love. This might help propel or guide a search towards a new instrument well as it plants a bug for a "particular sound" and motivates the hunt for the physical instrument around it, as opposed to the vice versa. And that can be very fun. If you're interested in the specifics of what that could look like, please do let me know and I can try to develop it out further. This is what my career is and has been (generally) -- complex NN solutions for odd problems, so I'm certainly happy to help somewhat with the discovery process at that frontier edge of musicality. If you somehow made it this far, thanks for reading! You can see how I clearly get passionate about this kind of thing, for whoever is reading this, hope you enjoyed and took something new away! Latent spaces are the future of a lot of things, and I think will change a lot of fields as NNs get much more well-established. (For more info -- "embeddings" will probably guide your self-search a bit better, this is more the general overarching conceptual framework behind how/why embeddings work.)

[@nicc745]

HAINBACH TF U DOIN HERE

[@Matteo_the_Plague_Doctor]

This video could be easily described as "two highly skilled musician friends act like dorks to write a metal song." This is so wholesome and fun I love it!

[@MuffinMan_Ken]

I love Rob's "Yes, and..." approach to collaboration/teaching. I wish more music teachers tried to instill a sense of joy and collaboration. Now we just need a reaction video from Adam's mom.

[@jp1freak]

i need to see mom neely :(

[@tenyako]

100% positive reinforcement

[@gesamtkuntswreck]

Double awesome commentary

[@AidanMmusic96]

Guest vocals from Ms Neely too!

[@nowheretocollapsethelung]

Rob reminds me of Jack Black here lmao.

[@ShaneDStein]

I'm 10 minutes in, and as a metal bassist who feels so inferior watching Adam Neely's other videos - this brings me joy. Love watching musicians step into other genres and out of their comfort zone.

[@mtlbstrd]

Metal (👆🏼) bassist also, with those same feelings watching Adam do jazz, and I experienced the same joy!

[@ArkhBaegor]

I've always been jealous of his music skills. I'm a metal drummer. I feel so vindicated!

[@judahgoddard7734]

@Qefna Ija this comment was so relevant to the current conversation

[@reneebear3641]

@@judahgoddard7734 It’s a bot

[@salottin]

Same!!!

[@TravisAlanHall]

Flashbacks to 2008 trying to teach your friend to play guitar so your band doesnt have to breakup

[@martellackerman3434]

I felt this comment in my soul

[@jaykeii]

this wasn't intentional but this reminded me of a certain anime with the same plot lol

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@jaykeii K-on? Or is there a newer one

[@jaykeii]

@@kaitlyn__L yeah lol

[@SystemOfALeo]

So true hahaha

[@sadface6635]

Adam Neely: I’m going to suck at metal Modern metal: play in 23/45 time Signature with an 8 string. Adam Neely:*Acts like he wasn’t born for this exact purpose*

[@colemantrebor6574]

*Modern prog metal

[@sadface6635]

@@colemantrebor6574 veil of maya is more metal core and they have some weird time signatures and rhythm

[@AlaiMacErc]

@@sadface6635 Mathcore+metal= methcore?

[@iantaakalla8180]

Jesse, we need to make a band that combines a metal sound and complex time signatures.

[@Djentmonkey998]

​@@iantaakalla8180 Animals as leaders does alot of that

[@treyxaviermusic]

having played in no fewer than 2 metal songs with Adam I can confirm he does NOT suck at metal

[@benhemsworth8555]

Dread Machine ripped.

[@treyxaviermusic]

@@benhemsworth8555 you sweet sweetie pie

[@rahulmenon4357]

Video title should be: Jazz Musician Sucks at Metal (Still better than your bullshit)

[@RockiesCanada]

Was he one of your nameless ghouls? 👀

[@icestorm_rb9057]

@@RockiesCanada Bass ghoul identity confirmed? 👀

[@NickGraziano]

I want more of these. I NEED more of these. Watching a successful professional musician do something new and struggle and push through despite seeming a bit embarrassed is hugely inspirational for a beginner like me who struggles with confidence when playing around other people. Thank you so much for doing this, guys!!

[@MrRAB1992]

I saw it as less embarrassed and more happy he had another opportunity to learn

[@pedrofrancisco939]

exactly! I really admire Adam and how much he knows about music. I've been an amateur for around 20 years, have no training in jazz and always thought less of myself, but after watching this, I realized that I actually know a lot of stuff

[@g0d5m15t4k3]

100%

[@happyraver1958]

I have never performed for others, I play bass for fun, but I do want to improve my skills until I get to have enough confidence to play for people, that would be so cool!!! I'm actually looking forward to being able to play for an audience.

[@SOLARRod]

this

[@mosselliadelt]

As someone who's drummed for.. 20 years now, i forgot how hard it must be for a beginner using double kicks lol. Excellent job for the first time on a kit Adam

[@Pyrochazm]

I had all but forgotten how difficult it was to balance.

[@mzxochitl]

Definitely not Adam’s first time on a kit, or guitar. He’s sucking on purpose and acting ignorant for the video.

[@thetreeofclues]

@@mzxochitlnot everything is a big conspiracy bozoid

[@garrettmehl1427]

Rob air drumming while standing up is my new favourite thing ever

[@andreimclive]

I keep expecting him to throw a chair at Adam.

[@Leviathandk]

Looked like gangnam style 🤣

[@Josev-TV]

Same!

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

He's the conductor.

[@bernhardhenkes]

As a drummer, I have to admit: I take great pleasure in seeing someone that I learned so much from and that is so clearly more than proficient in their instrument struggle with mine. Love seeing you have so much fun trying new stuff!

[@slizer452]

I love how universally reassuring it is to see an idol do poorly on something. It's nice to occasionally be shown that they are, in fact, human.

[@SapkaliAkif]

@@slizer452 Yeah especially since being the "übermench" of something is so widely marketed that we are not used to seeing these. Sometimes it is impossible for most and most of the time, it is impossible for all. E.g. Polygots who claim to speak 10+ languages.

[@v0id_d3m0n]

Hehehe ego is one hell of a drug

[@christopherjunkins]

The new title of the jazz/metal album: 737 to 7:38 I just took the likes from 737 to 738 but that sounds so badass jazz lol.

[@eugenesis8188]

From personal experience, this is exactly how 90% of metal demo tapes are actually written. Just add cheap beer.

[@CK-3K]

don’t forget the obligatory arguing with the sound engineer!

[@bodyheat1990]

truth so much

[@SlyHikari03]

And the even cheaper album cover.

[@Towalak]

Rob is like a kid showing his friend his new video game that he's already super good at lol

[@riffmania]

Seeing a jazz musicians uncomfortable and also humble while learning is a breath of fresh air

[@riffmania]

@@aaaaaa2206 maybe not fully but in my Experience yes

[@noahporter4487]

@@aaaaaa2206 no, probably just that it's assumed they're the most versatile/prepared and therefore other musicians can feel intimidated by that.

[@heavenly2k]

This whole song is really charming, and has this fun garage sludgey vibe. I like it. F*ck metal elitism. Just pick up some instruments and start making noises.

[@fclefjefff4041]

I identified as a "metalhead" from age 15 to approximately 45, when I realized how goofy it is for grown adults to think that way. Metal elitism is even more absurd and hilarious 😄

[@SlyHikari03]

@@fclefjefff4041 exactly. Screw the rules.

[@misternarwhalart]

hell yeah

[@norbertonicenstein5333]

in order to have fun, sure; but you will admit the less focus the music has, the more it really becomes just noise. Theres a lot between reharmonizing Necrophagist songs at double speed and throwing fish at pianos, but the closer you get to one of these poles, the less likely it is that anybody but yourself can relate to what you are trying to express

[@StefanCreates]

@@norbertonicenstein5333 but now you're putting all the importance on the outcome, yet you forget a very important part, that music is to be experienced and lived, and enjoyed in the moment. It's what we've always done, recorded music has been around so short in comparison to how long music itself has been around.

[@MillerCustomGuitars]

It’s so weird to see Adam Neeley struggle to play a stringed intrument. Playing outside of your normal genre is a real thing man.

[@pizzzaeater1425]

i love how you can physically Adam's different comfort/experience levels throughout the video. he clearly knows the standard way to wear/hold a guitar, and he can definitely play, but he's less familiar with some of the more niche technical stuff and has to be coached on those things (like the strap length, attack strength, and stance). then he moves to drums and his limbs are stiff and he has to focus more on getting the timing and amount of force right. but then you see him on bass and it's the most fluid and natural thing for him. i don't know if there's really anything of technical value to be gained from this, it's just endlessly fascinating to me to see the human brain's learning process manifest itself physically like this.

[@muttenmagroo]

This is me as a metal head stepping out of my comfort zone trying to learn the blues. It's a totally different skill set.

[@Bartman61911]

@@muttenmagroo If you want a tip for playing blues less is more try to partially outline cords while once you get used to that then you can move on to improvisation.

[@jfar3340]

@@Bartman61911 Not sure he's looking for a tip

[@gatergates8813]

@M. Magroo as a blues player who has tried to jam with metal musicians- it was like we were talking two different languages

[@LedWolf7]

Wasn’t half bad actually, very wholesome metal, the “I LOVE MY MOOOOOOM” was legit amazing

[@HofTheStage]

Never seen Adam laugh so much! Such a wholesome video, love it!

[@Ana_crusis]

I've noticed when people like videos on KZbin the word "wholesome" crops up a lot. Seems a very popular word

[@SlyHikari03]

@@smthnew861 true. The golden retriever of musician youtubers

[@NightDocs]

The drums had me on the floor lmao

[@danielshaw2406]

Thankfully he's willing to show the rough grind it takes to actually learn to play and instrument. Too many people don't wanna show the fails and want to make it look like they've been pro all along. Everyone starts somewhere and this is a good representation of it.

[@TheBigburcie]

@@danielshaw2406 Given his overall musical skill already, I don't think it would take that long to get proficient enough, except for the double bass. That's a different animal altogether.

[@jarunia17]

Got thrown in the deep end with the double bass haha

[@heavenly2k]

Fancy seeing you here mr. night man

[@tysoncurtis2646]

i’m in tears😂

[@uncle-epicurus]

Favorite part: Rob's "air" double kick drum! It looks like some kind of leprechaun dance.

[@jackwebb3868]

gangnam style

[@TheLilRedPig]

Demented flamenco dancer

[@enricoboldrini5350]

Lmaaaooo

[@johanneswerner1140]

A bit like the dancing in Debussy's scandalous sacre du printemps....

[@DeffoZappo]

This comment should be pinned

[@adikickass84]

Adam was hitting that China cymbal like it owed him money

[@datutturugang666]

yea but that’s not a china..

[@fifanmennensu]

@@datutturugang666 You’re not a china

[@datutturugang666]

can confirm i am neither china intended as the country nor chinese. for being precise im not even a china cymbal as well

[@kennethhughmusic]

Did anyone else here the sigh of relief when Adam got a bass in his hands? This was loads of fun to watch, nice one!

[@maisumvictor]

Yea bro, looked like "I'm in home" LOL

[@fromulus]

I love seeing Adam experience the joy of playing a simple distorted chug. It's a pretty sweet feeling.

[@starbound03]

It really is. You don’t even have to be that good for it to give you the brain happy chemical.

[@aniquinstark4347]

There's something visceral about controlling such an aggressive and dangerous feeling sound. It's like shooting a gun. Or revving a really powerful engine.

[@roachcuca3190]

@@aniquinstark4347 3 tube screamers in a row and a compressor is jediflipping without drugs

[@davidelder6028]

Hearing Adam try to metal scream "I love my mom" brings me immeasurable joy. I can't stop laughing.

[@convincingmountain]

loved this. so used to seeing adam in scripted, well composed thinky-man mode... watching him start somewhere out of his element, get deeper into it, and make something silly at the end of it was really fun to see. big tom scott plus vibes, great vid.

[@ГеоргиХристов-д6ж]

Sounds about like the absolute best effort of every local band in my small Eastern European hometown

[@t3hgir]

:DDDDD

[@Adefesio94]

lol !!!

[@ShanevsDCsniperr]

lmfao

[@bacicinvatteneaca]

My western European metropolis probably has less bands than your eastern European town

[@ГеоргиХристов-д6ж]

@@bacicinvatteneaca Damn :/ that sucks to hear. Well... if you're free in the summer, come visit Bulgaria. We have great beaches, trashy local bands and crime.

[@sunnyday6133]

Adam: *tries metal for 30 minutes* Rob: You just made a Metallica riff I’m done

[@bradleyduer]

sad.. but true

[@sunnyday6133]

@@bradleyduer Nice.

[@ericstearns170]

@@bradleyduer You win the interwebs.

[@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721]

It's like carcinization but with Metallica.

[@naiknaik8812]

@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 everything returns to metallica

[@lineshawn4819]

I love how the guitar solo is exactly how I would imagine a jazz musician playing a metal solo

[@tfwnoyandere]

misha mansoor type beat

[@SlyHikari03]

@@tfwnoyandere oh hey

[@Computertypad]

Hmm listen to Chris Polands solos for Megadeth, there you have a Jazz Guitarist in a metal band. Also a jazz drummer in the early days :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnmldYKcrL6Cnbc kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4ekg32Bm5iHm8k

[@unduloid]

Well, jazz metal _is_ a thing.

[@Johnkiernanmusic]

I love Adam and Rob for doing this on both of their channels. Both phenomenal musicians and always putting out great content. Real talk - In this video, Adam is the manifestation of all of the jazz heads in my music college experience getting into metal for the first time, going to metal show, etc. . This hit my right in the college. 😂

[@maltezachariassen7496]

Seeing Robs constant optimism and encouragement paired with Adams openness and drive to learn is so motivating. I wish everyone had this type of of learning environment in their life

[@KnapfordMaster98]

Hearing Adam scream at the top of his lungs is so weird, he's always so soft spoken.

[@SlyHikari03]

Yup

[@lucaspintooc]

like when you find your college teacher on a hardcore show

[@MissPoplarLeaf]

Same here, I loved that we got to see a new side of him!

[@JeremyForTheWin]

that's just for KZbin, in real life he's a belter

[@jaredbobier2844]

The vocals absolutely sent me. I haven’t laughed that hard at anything in a while. But absolute kudos to you Adam for just going for it!

[@heavymachete6235]

funny tho too that the breakdown callout sounded like early knocked loose LOL

[@carlsong6438]

Same

[@hiotsobo]

I love the concept of Rob just saying " Do a Solo." and Adam is just like "yea, alright." Amazing showmanship right here. Love the crab stance too

[@alper.tanrisever]

adam's gymnast split with the low hanging 7 string + rob's air drumming and kicks = perfection

[@gustavocaceres5728]

His little tap dance lmfao

[@LucasLaffineur]

I love how Adam is so humble and devoted to the task. So much music in his hands and mind, I bet he could djent with a flute, just give him a minute or two alone in a room, loved this video !

[@AlexMaskill]

Incredible how with an adult life full of professional jazz playing under your belt, just a small amount of tuition from Rob Scallion can get you sounding as good as four teenagers who played as many as three shows opening for Dr. Acula and The Agony Scene in the Dallas Fort Worth area in late 2007 before pretending to be Christian so they could sign to Solid State Records.

[@davisginn1298]

😂That coming from experience?

[@AlexMaskill]

@@davisginn1298 who's to say? many such cases!

[@defeatstatistics7413]

why would you call out The Devil Wears Prada like that

[@___xyz___]

Hahah you'd never believe how many kids grow fond of different kinds of metal for the opposite reason. Metal has been going through a transition period, especially these past 15 years, closing in on the jazz and experimental/electronic ends of the spectra. Shredding isn't what it used to be. It's deliberate and musical. Metal in its most evolved form is without a doubt one of the most technically challenging genres. And most of the time it's for silly reasons such as teens wanting to look cool with a guitar.

[@underwoodvoice9077]

Surprisingly specific scenario...

[@leviathan0232]

This is the most jazz metal song I’ve ever heard..that double kick pattern was a very jazzy choice 😂

[@ArxxWyvnClaw]

lmfaooo

[@niamhoconnor8986]

A lot of people don't realize this but Adam didn't actually fail playing the kick drums, he just played a 7:11 polyrhythm like a real 2020's jazz guy

[@violencefight9557]

It's metal in the 21st century, its impossible to fail with the kick drum: just replace all the hits with samples and snap to the grid like everyone else does.

[@visualdarkness]

Okay, Rob is officially a great teacher! This whole episode shows how music is supposed to be fun.

[@Bluebuthappy182]

He's a pretty dam good producer also.

[@mr_torle]

He is in many other videos too! He teaches a skateboarder how to play guitar and random people how to roller blade. He has a talent for that!

[@kidkangaroo5213]

Music is supposed to be fun? That would explain alot

[@PLively]

I hate to admit it, but I enjoyed watching Adam being out of his comfort zone. But I bet, after about a week of doing metal he could do an album that would put most bands to shame. Really looking forward to watching Metal Musician Sucks At Jazz.

[@crowhp3145]

Well with Rob as a coach/producer everyone can make a killer album.

[@KL-tn1xc]

i believe so too, and i would fcking love to see that happen.

[@VArsovski10]

Looks like video was already uploaded lol

[@MNmetalhead]

Yeah, I felt like Adam had to play ignorant for a lot of the video. He's talked about djent/periphery/animals as leaders, and I'm pretty sure we've seen him at least holding a guitar at some point. idk we

[@cheskaarana6097]

@@MNmetalhead That's just natural instinct to be, for lack of a better English word atm, polite. I am an artist and even do that whenever I talk to someone about a medium I know they know more about than me.

[@kennyboy6325]

This made me so happy to see! Been watching you guys for years, I'm a jazz/classical trumpet player...and a metal guitarist...this was like everything I needed. I really appreciate that you guys did this. Tons of fun!

[@MissPoplarLeaf]

It is SO cool to watch two really skilled and accomplished musicians explain their genres to each other, because you get a glimpse into the sheer depth and complexity of what they're doing. Also love that Rob and Adam just have great chemistry going on, they're quickly picking up what the other person is saying and just overall having fun. Love this collab!!

[@g0d5m15t4k3]

Agreed. This is a fantastic collab. Pros explaining their specific genre to each other. It's so enjoyable to see them have that light bulb moment with each other.

[@bipbipletucha]

I love it!

[@theharvardyard2356]

When I was learning metal after playing classic rock I was surprised how hard it was learning parts that have like 3 notes, just because the muting and rhythm can be so tricky

[@Esrom_music]

6 minutes in and im thinking "how to give a jazz musician permanent carpal tunnel syndrome" is a better title

[@SirMethos]

Major kudos for this. Far too many people are afraid of failing, or doing something badly(at least in public, as with a video like this). But it's honestly inspiring to see someone in the process of doing something completely new, flaws, failures and everything. It's so much fun doing new stuff, and people tend to forget that, because of that fear of failing or sucking.

[@brenomordida]

True

[@akifhafie8561]

Oh man that's so true. Especially with internet, everyone seem to be so much better than you that you can be terrified of making a fool out of yourself. I remember being so afraid of going jamming with some college seniors because they've been jamming for years, and I was too embarrassed thinking that I'd suck in front of them. Well turns out, stage fright aside, I was actually a tiny bit better at guitar than them. I think it's great that these famous youtubers are making videos like this so that more kids realize that many people aren't as godly as they may seem especially out of their comfort zone. It's ok to suck, as long as you're having fun with music!

[@ridleyroid9060]

Yeah, "failing" while being coached and encouraged by a pro. Most people that fail get laughed at and discourage. This shit wouldnt be possible if Adam wasnt good already in Jazz and people liked him.

[@leparraindufromage366]

I feel like losing that kind of innocence you had when starting out sometimes really stifles the natural creativity one had. When I listen to some of my first stuff it's so unrefined and sloppy at times but it has so much charm because you didn't feel like you had to conform to how something is supposed to sound, you just tried to make music with the limitations you had

[@julienlewis347]

This brings up the question: Why doesn’t Adam have a signature bass?

[@Emmettdoesstrongman]

I was wondering that too.

[@Telopead]

Maybe because I don’t see him as the bassist, I see him as a good jazz musician who knows his craft and good at communicating ideas and theories.

[@kankanmwah]

I mean, can you REALLY look at a Kiesel JB5 without thinking of Adam?

[@schaddalton]

12:38 "I have no drumming experience whatsoever." *sits sideways on saddle-style drum throne* Your claim is verified, sir. :)

[@TheRumpletiltskin]

it's crazy that just tossing an amazing musician into another genre can make them seem like beginners in a sense. this was a great crossover. loved both so much, and learned alot myself.

[@jadedandbitter]

Should've started him with old Megadeth, it's practically jazz anyways

[@barkon34]

well its also the fact that he dosen't play guitar or drums

[@carlsong6438]

I mean, I'm sure he could learn metal convincingly on bass a lot quicker than he could learn anything up to pro standard on an intrument he doesnt play... but i see what ur getting at

[@Elintasokas]

@@jadedandbitter Lol, no, old Megadeth is as far from jazz as you can get. It's much more like blues on steroids.

[@jadedandbitter]

@@Elintasokas Chris Poland's leads were very jazzy, to the point where if you played them without distortion by themselves, they'd sound like jazz solos

[@demezzerate6769]

lmao Rob Scallon is the guy you NEED in the studio. at 20:12 where he’s punching at every note Adam’s playing looks like it’d rly help get into the metal mindset lol

[@D1570R73D]

@Qefna Ija Kids, just say no to feminism

[@Matt09pearce]

He's certainly a feckin good teacher hey

[@jessenguyen3012]

I’m only halfway through the video so far, but I would’ve liked to have seen Adam try to compose a metal song from scratch with all of his jazz influences, rather than just him learning what is essentially a pre-baked metal song hitting on all the generic tropes. Would love to see Rob do the same by composing his idea of a jazz piece with all of his rock/metal predispositions. That way we could hear what a jazz musician thinks metal sounds like and vice versa and get some cool fusion tracks in the process

[@OrgaNik_Music]

Sure, but I think you need a bit more than an hour and a half for something like that.

[@heavenly2k]

I actually really like the chugging scheme for the halftime breakdown. Implementing ideas common in jazz can work REALLY well for mediums like metal. Just ask Meshuggah - they're basically death jazz.

[@ericwiles2257]

Djazz

[@tuttosalve8352]

Early megadeth

[@newusernamehere4772]

Also Mastodon, Primus, Tool, and Opeth use jazz concepts in metal all the time. Ozric Tentacles uses metal concepts in fusion.

[@jacobtapianieto9655]

Imperial Triumphant and Meshuggah are other two big examples.

[@shadow105720]

You can tell the music video wasn't made by professional video makers because they actually matched the drum parts right.

[@TomBombadil515]

Lol

[@theovergoat]

Adam yelling "I love my mom" at the breakdown sounds so different to how we're used to hearing his voice, I had no idea it can go so high

[@lexx.wangmusic]

Ikr. It was so awesome

[@SlyHikari03]

Yup. It sounds like a voice he would just for a gag in a vid. Where he just screams a part of the script.

[@UnitheCatbird]

It was frightening in the best way possible

[@vnllawytchkltblndie]

I know right? He must really love his mom ❤️🥹

[@rijntje73]

The "I love my mooooooooooooooom" vocal part was seriously brutal. 😂

[@jonnydent825]

Adam being ass at drums strangely warms my heart.

[@hesofrynia]

lol

[@Mutantcy1992]

Still pretty damn good for not being a drummer

[@mitch5944]

Eh decent for literally his first or one of his first times imo lol

[@blackmamba5659]

3:05 Jazz musician: For "chugging" what pick up should I use? Metal musician: ..... pick up?

[@LONGname46]

They'll always tell you to cross that bridge when they get to it

[@nelvsonshine3917]

LMFAO good one

[@Kaleil]

Yeah, metal guitarists aren't gear obsessed at all /s

[@trevorford8702]

@@Kaleil Guitarist have to be gear obsessed. It’s the natural order of the world.

[@AcornFox]

i used to tape my selector i didnt accidentally pop into my grandpa pickups 🤓

[@theoptimisticmetalhead7787]

Deathcore was a good style for a jazz musician to break into metal with, considering how groove centric it is. Find that pocket and just make it all about dynamics. I can not tell you how much I've enjoyed both of these videos.

[@tai-bere3500]

Genuinely curious as I’ve never really thought of deathcore as groove centric, can you give me some examples of deathcore songs that are heavy on the groove??

[@jonathanpetrucelli7269]

@@tai-bere3500 The Alpha The Omega - Tony Danza Flourish - The Contortionist

[@cuntcrusher9546]

@@jonathanpetrucelli7269 those are more on the prog/math side tho

[@lukedp6896]

@@tai-bere3500 mainly its influence from hardcore where riffs tend to be more about the syncopation of the rhythm- metal and deathcore coined the chugz

[@DankFloyd-fe9bi]

@@cuntcrusher9546 The mathy prog stuff does tend to groove pretty hard tbf

[@deinstrumens1177]

28:00 That's the kind of sound my dad makes whenever he's playing with a dog and pretending to be bitten, just to kid the dog 😂😂

[@divinasi0n]

Ok, this was actuality a brilliant video concept that you pulled off really well. I especially like the guitar solo that straddles the line between awkward and totally inspired.. 😅

[@emanggitulah4319]

Faaakin nailed it... Not sure what the notations for that

[@AlexMaskill]

I like when he was trying to figure it out, accidentally finds a scare chord and suddenly sounds like he's about to start playing early Converge before moving on immediately. Didn't know what he'd stumbled upon!

[@itsaUSBline]

It actually kind of sounds like a QOTSA solo, just played with less confidence.

[@pure.panic.productions33]

1- This is like some of my favorite content. 2- as a metal musician/ sub par audio engineer this is EXACTLY what the first band I recorded sounded like so its accuracy is on point haha.

[@brassinyourass18]

I love how different this video is compared to everything else Adam has done, felt like he was getting out of his comfort zone here and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

[@viktorjacobs]

Incredibly impressed with the guts to put yourself out there like this Adam. It takes courage to do something adjacent but VERY MUCH different from something you’re otherwise an expert at, and in front of the internet at that. Kudos!

[@jakubSwaps]

"Love you mommy you're the best for me" had me wincing so painfully. Absolute masterpiece, well done guys.

[@zaazazza6555]

*bestest

[@soxpeewee]

Hilarious and yet better than many metal songs

[@jarcophagus]

Hey that’s weird this sentence rhymes!

[@edwardclark6731]

that sounds like it could be a sus song

[@sound5cap3gaming39]

I absolutely love seeing Rob’s face like “oh no this part sounds like Sad But True” 😂

[@Allardje10ifly]

"Look mom! Pinch Harmonics!" is the exact way someone shows their parents the new technique they learned and it gives me massive flashbacks

[@talaniel]

Lol, I experience such things even nowadays - me (43) showing a riff from an old song to my mum (64) for the first time and she instantly recognising it :-)

[@horseradish4046]

Adam can keep doing jazz to demonstrate harmony stuff but he could totally start incorporating metal when discussing rhythm.

[@aaaaa111aaaaa]

I dont know how Metal Fits into sungazer

[@Sergio-nb4hj]

​@@aaaaa111aaaaa Didn't he say some of their stuff takes influence from djent?

[@Duncan_Idaho_Potato]

I'm a guitar player. I sat at a drum kit exactly one time in my life, mostly as a joke but also fairly confident that I could play a very basic rock beat in a few minutes. It only took 30 seconds for me to realize that my feet have exactly ZERO sense of rhythm and I gave up pretty quickly. In hindsight, I figured out this is probably also why I don't dance.

[@jeffspaulding9834]

Same here, but as a bass player. After two minutes my drummer was all, "OK, gimme my seat back." Given how much bass and drums work together I figured I'd do better.

[@krs695]

@@jeffspaulding9834 i could do triplets with the kick while doing a basic 4/4 on the hihat and snare then the drummer told me to switch it up and it all went to shit. Drummers deserve more respect

[@jeffspaulding9834]

@@krs695 Normally I'd agree, but then again I watched that same drummer sit in my kitchen and huff a gas can for thirty minutes. No surprise he didn't make it to 30.

[@dagonzalez1757]

I play drums and can't dance for shit

[@krs695]

@@jeffspaulding9834 nitrous or literal gas Anyways that's fucked

[@torbenstegmuller329]

Adam playing the drums with the most aggressive expression on his face breaks me up haha But well done stepping into new territory!

[@tomvesely4008]

Reverse Sungazer when?😂

[@MancoBlanco]

The Collab we never knew we needed, but we are not complaining

[@Power-9Hunnid]

✔✔✔✔✔✔✔✔

[@TotoDG]

Honestly, I'm surprised it took this long for it to happen. But hey, I'm not complaining either.

[@ArielMarey]

I was actually waiting for this since sooo long, they are some of the best musicians here on yt :D

[@LynnHermione]

I love it when metal guitars do the thing. You know, "wheEWOO"

[@igrobens]

This makes me want to start a hard core metal band called Jazz Musicians Suck at Metal

[@The0Stroy]

Even funnier if they play mix of jazz and metal...

[@LONGname46]

Exclusively play djazz

[@H34L5]

@@LONGname46 djental djazz

[@worldssmallestfan]

@@The0Stroy BTBAM and other prog metal bands are good for reference.

[@c.nelson3747]

That could double as the name of a Midwest Emo song lol

[@andreimclive]

well THIS is something I really always wanted to see. Adam bringing the riffage, chuggage and the high wattage

[@GeoffBosco]

"What is this, a crossover episode?" Rob is definitely Mr Peanutbutter in this scenario.

[@Schattenhall]

doggy doggy what now????

[@McDoinky]

Adam is Yolanda Buenaventura

[@GeoffBosco]

@@McDoinky Lolololololol. That is cold and hilarious on so many levels.

[@McDoinky]

@@GeoffBosco I mean they’re the same person no?

[@GeoffBosco]

@@McDoinky True that. Lol

[@arayazn]

I already play metal and Rob has taught me so much here. Especially about guitar positioning and strap length

[@joshuascott1266]

I definitely could have found about 100 bands that sounded exactly like this in 2005 on MySpace, lol.

[@SlyHikari03]

Including the vocalist that sounds like Adam screaming before the breakdown. Like there’s probably some guy in a band that sounds like that.

[@Adrionic]

@@SlyHikari03 in 8th grade I was the vocalist (with ZERO prior training) for a band called The Bowlz Of Mounty Crisco, and I'm pretty sure I sounded exactly like that thinking back on it. We had 2 practice sessions and never met up again 😂

[@SlyHikari03]

@@Adrionic that’s funny. I feel like Ive heard a band who’s vocals sounded like his. No idea if a band out there has a frontman that sounds similar.

[@TheDarkMessiah]

I like how whenever Rob does a collab and we get the patreon early peek, we also end up getting the collaborator's video early (at least I also donate to Adam on patreon, so this doesn't feel too much like cheating)

[@aidantalbot9495]

and vice versa : ))

[@TheDarkMessiah]

@@aidantalbot9495 True. Usually, I get patreon emails about adam's new videos at the same time they're published to youtube in the first place. I guess Rob forced his hand a bit on this one :P

[@samsam2235]

Rob pretty much nailed it as a jazz musician, Adam's performance on the other hand gave me a warm feeling of acceptance.

[@WookieWarriorz]

technical metal incorporates such a huge amount of jazz among other genres that rob would have learned a lot of the basics from that, as well as being a multi instrumentalist, where as adam just wouldnt have spent as much time with the elements that are unique to metal as an accomplished jazz musician.

[@JoelSalazarM]

Well. Adam doesn't really play half of the instruments so the challenge was harder for him.

[@davidmcleod1760]

Infinitely better at the drums than I could ever dream of. Rob really gives off the energy of an older brother teaching his kid brother to riff for the first time here.

[@Sean-Ax]

Watching this makes me forget that Adam is a very skilled, technically proficient, and professionally accomplished musician. lol

[@DJsocial7102]

It definitely make me feel better lol.

[@PotmosHetoimos]

This video was delightful, yet at the same time super painful as someone who’s been learning from Adam’s videos for years and applying jazz technique to metal in my own compositions. You don’t have to play power chord phrygian breakdowns! You can just be Adam Neely but with distortion! xD

[@nerothos]

In fairness the point was to keep the technical requirements low.

[@lucasthemycologist]

Yeah, but the point was to emulate the sound of that subgenre of metal Rob grew up listening to.

[@hrothgarnogar]

That would defeat to purpose of the vid though haha. That'd become prog metal but this is supposed to be a form of metal Adam would know nothing about like hardcore.

[@ChaosPootato]

Adam doing the splits while playing a breakdown with Rob air drumming besides him is what we all needed

[@slightgraph89]

this was actually so awesome. enjoyed every second. if you think about it, quality per time invested makes this an insane track, and the scream at the end was no joke so sick. also very inspiring to see someone keep a level head and just keep moving forward while cringing and being visibly uncomfortable and the bit at the end where you were able to sit through the embarrassment and still laugh at yourself was inspiring, love you man