Adapt Skates vs Levi Van Rijn. Rollerblading Mad Beef

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Tom Moyse

Tom Moyse

Күн бұрын

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@leviskate4life
@leviskate4life 2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys. I wanna clarify a few things about the situation between me and adapt: I wrote Pieter a letter to say I had thoughts on leaving because I had a few things that bothered me. At the beginning we were close but towards the end the strong family bond kind of faded. We didnt talk that much anymore and i felt like we wanted to move in different directions in the skating scene, and thats exactly why I wanted to have a talk with Pieter. So I wrote him a letter and said I wanted to talk, so I wasnt gonna leave 100% at that point(Roces asked me to ride for them at that point but I didn’t say no/yes yet). After a crazy response threating me and my two best friends I told him I didnt wanna talk anymore and he made my decision to leave way easier. I think one of the main problems is that Pieter doesn’t get that when people work together you both do something for eachother and that if a person works for you, he/she/they deserves to be payed. It’s weird he says he gave me so much all the time like he’s some kind of hero (I’m thankful for all the things he did ofcourse) but I also skated(worked) for him so it would be nice if he would also be grateful for the things I and other people did for adapt. Like how he gets mad that I wanted to talk about leaving AFTER I picked up MY money that I earned by WORKING for him. I think we both did eachother favors, like how it’s suposed to be when you work together in a company. Again, we could have talked about things like this beceause we both lagged somethings in the relationship, but if someones first reaction is exploding and aggressively treatening you , it only proves a point that there’s not much space for talking anymore. I knew Pieter can get angry and a lot of people who left are not in a good relationship with adapt anymore(so it kind of feels like “family” or enemy). So I chose to write him when he was gone so we both had some time/space to think about it and maybe get a reasonable talk about me thinking about leaving. I’m sorry that his mother passed away but he never told me about that, so I wasnt aware of that at that moment. I think its funny that he’s using the story about me stealing that hat when I was a kid as some kind of proving point. I agree that was a stupid move of me haha. But in the end this is again some kind of way of him to prove that he’s the hero in the game. Because some recent things that happend between two dutch guys and adapt I felt like people need to know about how Pieter treated me and decided to mention it in my podcast. Also to let other people know before they got stuck in a situation like this and are afraid to leave. I hope these words clarify the situation a bit and that Pieter maybe can think twice before he acts this aggressive and angry way again before thinking things trough, and that maybe he can see that everyone else but him is not always wrong all the time. Cheers!
@oghomelesskid
@oghomelesskid 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clarifying!
@dopetag
@dopetag 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for having a courage to speak about this. No one should be treated like you were. I have the whole picture now. Conclusions are drawn. I hope you have a great career and another pro skate really soon. Big L for adapt
@my-spinning-wheel
@my-spinning-wheel 2 жыл бұрын
I am older than you but new to skating and don't know much about this situation but your skating is very inspiring to me. Hope all is well and keep shredding my friend.
@SlugLord424
@SlugLord424 2 жыл бұрын
We got your back G
@LaLa4iZ
@LaLa4iZ 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I don't think It was a good idea for either party to say anything public. If what you said was true, you should have got legal advice at the time. Now that you went public, if that brand/company gets backlash for what you said, they could sue you. I just hope everyone just moves on.
@Igobyrik
@Igobyrik 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the dude completely discredits Levi being on razors before adapt and acts like the kid didn’t already have his own sponsors
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Haha
@mylesjohnson7351
@mylesjohnson7351 2 жыл бұрын
Pieter seems like a bad businessman he doesn’t have a contract with his teenage rider and when he leaves he threatens to break his legs i wouldn’t ever buy an adapt skate
@jacobs_quest
@jacobs_quest 2 жыл бұрын
There are better ways to quit but that’s no excuse for Adapt. Nothing in his response really made it okay. A lot of us were teenagers who would have acted the same way but for a skate company to react personally and make violent threats shouldn’t be accepted.
@NoProHarrie
@NoProHarrie 2 жыл бұрын
No, there isn't a better or a worse way to quit. Quitting is inherently bad for an employer. So you do it whichever way you can. Levi was not in the wrong for any of it.
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
🙌🏻
@user-se2zz5lb4e
@user-se2zz5lb4e 2 жыл бұрын
"Like sands in the hour glass....."
@juanQuedo
@juanQuedo 2 жыл бұрын
I am about to enter my 40's and if I have learnt something is to run away every time a business/company says, "we are a family here", or something along those lines. Any job relationship is a two-way stream, and that is often "forgotten" for the same side on those relationships. That letter basically implies that what Levi said it was real. You do yourself and your brand a disservice if after the years you say you would do it again. Don't burn bridges kid...let me serve as example. 🤔
@iRollerboot
@iRollerboot 2 жыл бұрын
10/10. Knocked this one out of the park. ⚾️
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
⚾️
@mr.rodriguez5099
@mr.rodriguez5099 2 жыл бұрын
the long story short..do not Adapt!
@lucaswalker1777
@lucaswalker1777 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t let this stuff happen in our industry, and stop it if you see it. Love each other and roll and let live.
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
🧡🧡🧡
@o.a.c-r2207
@o.a.c-r2207 2 жыл бұрын
7 Characteristics of a Narcissist. ... They seem perfect at first. ... They talk about themselves almost all the time. ... They are sensitive to perceived criticism. ... They give backhanded compliments. ... They manipulate your feelings. ... They are arrogant. ... They cannot stand rejection.
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
🙌🏻
@o.a.c-r2207
@o.a.c-r2207 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomMoyse Adapt should "re"-launch the Graahls Carbon.
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
@@o.a.c-r2207 hahaha I’d like to see it
@lesoir26
@lesoir26 2 жыл бұрын
thank you Tom for taking the time to deconstruct that pathetic e-mail
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Thought it was worth looking into a bit more
@rickyp976
@rickyp976 2 жыл бұрын
Levi needs to invent a new trick and call it "Special Cake"
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Haha
@brett.anthony
@brett.anthony 2 жыл бұрын
What you said from 5:12 is exactly what I was thinking: he makes it sound like he gifted things to Levi when it was actually a partnership they both benefitted from. If he hadn't have been profiting off of Levi's work then he probably wouldn't have had such a strong reaction to him quitting.
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
🙌🏻🙌🏻
@aaronschultz3256
@aaronschultz3256 2 жыл бұрын
Great video per usual but the little intro had me lollingggggg 😂
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Haha 🙌🏻
@hotpocket1551
@hotpocket1551 2 жыл бұрын
Waiting for a Lifetime docu series
@hypercutz7883
@hypercutz7883 2 жыл бұрын
that snippet of I guess a grime song "all of your cd's back" which song is this?
@aaronpeters6482
@aaronpeters6482 2 жыл бұрын
Not watched the vid yet but based on that line I’d say tempa t - next hype
@fromportugaltotheworld3580
@fromportugaltotheworld3580 2 жыл бұрын
The adapt letter is clear that all they did was for sales
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
🙌🏻
@oghomelesskid
@oghomelesskid 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid and again, jokes hitting the hard as usual. Its good this info is out there, hopefully it signals other brands to fix up, especially if they got some bs going on behind the scenes. Wish adapt nun but the best.
@tjl3979
@tjl3979 2 жыл бұрын
Is anyone surprised? Adapt hasnt been able to keep a rider other than Bah, Russel, and Deck. There's got to be a reason why.
@kevincollins8620
@kevincollins8620 2 жыл бұрын
Which makes me sad for Bah and Day. They are both great skaters in their own right that deserve to ride for a legit company. I hope both the homies jump ship soon if they haven't.
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
🙌🏻
@thegreatbarrerquief7473
@thegreatbarrerquief7473 2 жыл бұрын
The editing in your vids is outstanding. Spotty Dog.
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you - really appreciate that, it takes me a fair bit of time haha
@thegreatbarrerquief7473
@thegreatbarrerquief7473 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomMoyse time well spent. Appreciate you. Spotty dog.
@lustforlow-end6022
@lustforlow-end6022 2 жыл бұрын
“Mr Kiplings exceedingly broken legs” 🤣🤣🤣 this dude always makes me giggle!
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man
@Leatt25
@Leatt25 2 жыл бұрын
Sad to see Adapt go under because their skates look dope and they are a quality hand made product. You could say they would be a victim of the current skate bubble but their owner really shot himself in the leg here.
@proffessasvids
@proffessasvids Жыл бұрын
He broke his own legs? Lol xx
@RollerbladingwithRoss
@RollerbladingwithRoss 2 жыл бұрын
Gosh there's more drama in this 14.36 minute clip than their is in a year's worth of Eastenders. Waiting for next week's episode 😂
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha yes man
@PhilipLemoine
@PhilipLemoine 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t heard “Boston Crab” in ages.
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
It’s often on my mind
@j4nk3n
@j4nk3n 2 жыл бұрын
Levi didn't thank adapt for the cake so that justifies the leg break threat!
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Good manners make the world go round
@j4nk3n
@j4nk3n 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomMoyse especially when it comes to cake, maybe not jaffacake, but nobody knows how to actually classify them 😂
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
@@j4nk3n hah
@aldolega
@aldolega 2 жыл бұрын
The cake tangent 😄
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Built the video around that
@juancsmix
@juancsmix 2 жыл бұрын
this is getting funnier and funnier. I had to watch again the "holes" part! hahhah
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers
@joshuaevans5265
@joshuaevans5265 2 жыл бұрын
I have been telling people the guys at Adapt are too high on their own farts for years. Not to mention they handle any customer grievances like autistic jerks. I had a conversation with Pieter at the very beginning of the brand about improvements that could be made to the skates after my friend had ordered the Ben Harmanus skates and absolutely wrecked them in a matter of like 2 months. The conversation basically equated to them telling me that my friend must have been skating them wrong because their design was brilliantly thought out, and any ideas I suggested they had already thought of and ruled out. Jump to a year or so later and Improvements to the shell floor plus the 6 mounts appear then eventually the strap protectors (all sugestions I willingly offered in their first year and was told did not work for the skate). I Love symetrics frames and have skated them for years but I make sure every pair I buy is second hand because I dont like the idea of suporting those guys.
@NoProHarrie
@NoProHarrie 2 жыл бұрын
I am certain you don't need to call people autistic for being bad at something :)
@joshuaevans5265
@joshuaevans5265 2 жыл бұрын
@@NoProHarrie Much is not ever truly needed just as I am certain you did not need to try and make that heroically condescending point. None the less my choice of words served as an accurate description of the encounter and was in no way generally pejorative of autistic people. As someone who struggles with autism, I approve of this statement.
@NoProHarrie
@NoProHarrie 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuaevans5265 and as someone who has struggled with autism, I do not believe using someone elses mental health as a stab makes any sense what so ever.
@joshuaevans5265
@joshuaevans5265 2 жыл бұрын
@@NoProHarrie I agree. So I think we can both beathe a sigh of relief that has not happened in this instance.
@pouringblue7
@pouringblue7 2 жыл бұрын
yup the first adapts hard the rough part of the velcro that holds the tongue in place touching your skin and socks. my left skate was fucked. in order to avoid the rough part of the velcro, I had to have my tongue completely sideways towards the outside. they stitched the velcro off centered on that one boot. it cut through my sock, jeans, and skin. my left skate was covered in blood. was told by them to fix it myself with an exacto knife or pay to ship it back to be fixed. this is after I waited 6 ish weeks a d paid $540 ish for boot only. long story short I said fuck that. went to cults then them skates. don't skate adapts cause stone cold said so!
@NoProHarrie
@NoProHarrie 2 жыл бұрын
So this person has known about his bad attitude, his bad tendencies and done what? Please say you are sorry for threathening someone and let people know you are going to change when this comes out. This is Bananas.
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Banana 🍌
@NoProHarrie
@NoProHarrie 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomMoyse at the least banana, close to pineapple!!!!
@pouringblue7
@pouringblue7 2 жыл бұрын
You adapted to the the allegations well, Tom. Alleged bad words rather. this is why I love this channel, bruv. pure entertainment. a cure for the Boston crab is grabbing the bottom rope or nearest chair or barbed wired bat cactus jack style and for the figure 4 you turn over you're belly. I would have quit in person, act scared, swift kick to the belly after beers cheers, and stone cold stunner. and that's the bottom line cause van rijn said so. Levi 3:16
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha cheers for the Boston crab and figure 4 tip. That’s the bottom line chase Van Rijn said so it’s brilliant!
@GeorgeWPush
@GeorgeWPush 2 жыл бұрын
Adapts will stay overpriced..
@kevincollins8620
@kevincollins8620 2 жыл бұрын
If they hit the 200 dollar range imma try some out though... never gunna happen though. I always ride on cults so I'm scum.
@GeorgeWPush
@GeorgeWPush 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevincollins8620 yoo cults are dope my boy.. All skates fall apart..im not about to spend 600
@OliBenet
@OliBenet 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know where anyone gets the patience and energy for all this tomfoolery (not talking about the video, talking about the drama).
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Internet energy
@kaylobaines73
@kaylobaines73 2 жыл бұрын
Right……..mf need to get off the couch and skate
@NoProHarrie
@NoProHarrie 2 жыл бұрын
Some people care about others for some reason.
@DashDrones
@DashDrones 2 жыл бұрын
I've got holes in different area codes too..
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@mean-genes
@mean-genes 2 жыл бұрын
It’s got holes 😂😂😂
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
In different area codes
@fullframepro
@fullframepro 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just here for the cakes talk.
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Plenty of that
@1joespray
@1joespray 2 жыл бұрын
Those Mr Kipling apple custards were lit
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Hahah next level
@NoBuddyz
@NoBuddyz 9 ай бұрын
The edits are at Kreachure lvl and I love it
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 9 ай бұрын
🧡🫡
@thatmountain
@thatmountain 2 жыл бұрын
I really like Brandon but he strikes me as the kind of guy who doesn't want to get into any conflict and make everyone happy which are admirable characteristics. But when we're talking about whether or not Pieter is a fuck head I think you have to stick to the facts. Also given that Brandon, such a nice guy Pieter going to him to release the letter seems calculated.
@sandbox5722
@sandbox5722 2 жыл бұрын
I think Brandon sees himself more as a reporter giving unbiased info while tom gives his biased opinion. We need both types of people.
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
I do a bit of both. I alway try to back up my opinion and show how I’ve come to that conclusion, it’s not biased as it’s not unfairly prejudiced
@Yabanmf666
@Yabanmf666 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not here to take sides or defend anything that was said. The Dutch are quit extreme in the way they speak to each other so I'm not shocked or upset in the slightest. They cancer, typhus and other diseases when cursing at each other, a threat of broken legs is bad but not even the worst thing you could say to someone in their language. I personally feel the linguistic context has been missed and I only think this because of the amount of time I've been in the Netherlands and interacting with the people.
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting - I think the Uk probable Great Britain on the whole are far more extreme than most countries when it’s comes to severity of language. Saying this, it’s still not the one for an adult to threaten a teenager - if the allegation are true
@Yabanmf666
@Yabanmf666 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomMoyse We Aussies may have the edge on you guys when it comes to vile use of the english language. The Dutch always make me question whether what they say is too much. That being said it's a shithouse situation that a face to face sit down could of helped avoid it turning into what it did. Anyway keep the videos coming, love your work
@Yabanmf666
@Yabanmf666 2 жыл бұрын
@@TomMoyse ok turns out he's a massive kunt, in light of recent new information my perspective was wrong.
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
@@Yabanmf666 there is defo a few peoples experiences that’s don’t sound good at all, Adapt did themselves no favours with their reply
@bladingisdad
@bladingisdad 2 жыл бұрын
I'm having my cake and I'm eating cake I'm having my cake and I'm eating cake I'm having my cake and I'm eating cake I'm having my cake and I'm eating cake I'm having my cake and I'm eating cake Yeah. Lost inside a whirlwind Eating cake Sending kids of girlfriends Eating cake When I lay back in my bed cool Eating cake She set my mood, I push back the ropes Eating cake And when I see no whispers in our friends' ear Eating cake His lust is just so sincere Eating cake Got the feeling she be right out Eating cake As the prevailer of the tight song Eating cake In Brasilia, off the balcony Eating cake It's spending, the falconer Eating cake Lord, forgive me all these pleasures Eating cake He said, my son, just do what thy are Eating cake Will I ever have a clear mind while Eating cake Simple pleasures equal a fine Eating cake No matter, gold mine Eating cake Reverend days in mind Eating cake I bet this is always on my mind Eating cake I'm having my cake and I'm eating cake Why rise the sun and not dance in its light Make the gods laugh at such questions with the light And inside, inside I'm always late up high on pure blends Eating cake Trying to bend me is a dead end Eating cake Times I rock it as a sorcerer Eating cake They gonna always slice my portion, bro Eating cake Since they gunned me to a smirk Eating cake I get to dreaming, pain, hurt Eating cake I drew it up and put it in a tray Eating cake I was filthy playing low Eating cake To all my hustles good as a tsar Eating cake Secret meetings in the stratosphere Eating cake Let's feel in all the clear and let it leave The gift, walk, let it waver Why not save the flavor
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Cake cake cake
@Kj16V
@Kj16V 2 жыл бұрын
1:36 This clip killed me. I'm now dead💀 Thanks, jerk.
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
😁🙌🏻
@CanadaBladers
@CanadaBladers 2 жыл бұрын
One of us has had a bad story with adapt. Pieter is well known for his bullying on this side.
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
It seems that way
@studiohyden
@studiohyden 2 жыл бұрын
You guys should see Mark Korte´s email i got when my brother (as a funny revenge) wrote him I`d quit USD when I was 12... :) haha. You go Levi!!! Love you man.
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Haha 🙌🏻
@softlk8810
@softlk8810 2 ай бұрын
this video takes the cake…
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 ай бұрын
Thank you
@GeorgeWPush
@GeorgeWPush 2 жыл бұрын
You're expecting him to basically fess up and put himself in jail??? These people arent dumb dude
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
If the allegations are true they are not too smart either
@mean-genes
@mean-genes 2 жыл бұрын
You had me dying laughing. 😂
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers dude
@Harleywayne
@Harleywayne 2 жыл бұрын
How unfortunate ✌️
@AmassMoreMoney
@AmassMoreMoney 2 жыл бұрын
Don't hate on the special cakes !
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Never
@kamilciura7953
@kamilciura7953 2 жыл бұрын
Special cakes were most likely made with weed xD
@afusake
@afusake 2 жыл бұрын
hahaha shit im not surprised, those flying dutch ego's are through the sky.
@BackLogH3ro
@BackLogH3ro 2 жыл бұрын
At least they enjoyed a special cake together.
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Always time for cake
@zekwilt
@zekwilt 2 жыл бұрын
Ore 😆😆😆
@Harleywayne
@Harleywayne 2 жыл бұрын
Soooo yeah, custom Adapt skate here I come. I’m not about all the drama, I just wanna skate. Great video and content as usual. Cheers
@livibam
@livibam 2 жыл бұрын
Tedious
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
⚾️
@proffessasvids
@proffessasvids Жыл бұрын
Not a very nice chap this pieter fellow. Good on you levi. Watch their ship go down from the upper deck of the roces super yacht with a smoke and a pancake. Peace xx
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse Жыл бұрын
I’m amazed that even with hindsight he still thinks he’s done nothing wrong
@proffessasvids
@proffessasvids Жыл бұрын
@Tom Moyse yeah man.. I recon autistic with a high level of psychopathic behavioral traits. I have aspergers syndrome and have a brutal temper... but I know the value of my fellow man and am good at separating my situations so I don't have a moan at innocent folk if something else has gone wrong. If something has seriously gone wrong I avoid everyone until its fixed. Sorry I had to use you yacht analogy. It was proper funny. Xx
@ma7939
@ma7939 2 жыл бұрын
You need to try stand up comedy
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man
@climbtheskyspine5748
@climbtheskyspine5748 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahaha!!!!
@dmgd509
@dmgd509 2 жыл бұрын
Boring
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
What is
@yogiwildfire3127
@yogiwildfire3127 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter
@sicilianknicca_mickygreeneyes
@sicilianknicca_mickygreeneyes 2 жыл бұрын
if he has a temper grow some chutzpah and stand up to them. bullies i find,( being small and always the new kid ) dont like people who stand up to them that is the only way to stop a bully to stand up and take the blows if they come. win or lose they will either respect fear or like u but you wont have to deal with thier projections any more
@kevincollins8620
@kevincollins8620 2 жыл бұрын
So true. I had to deal with a weird situation. He initiated. I told em jump. Now he begs for forgiveness. You really have to walk a fine line and stand your ground.
@citizenoftheninthdivision
@citizenoftheninthdivision 2 жыл бұрын
Adapt have always been overpriced shite.
@TomMoyse
@TomMoyse 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
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