Adding An X-pipe To My True Dual 4 Cylinder Exhaust - What Will it Sound Like?

I add an x-pipe to the dual exhaust on my 2002 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V to see what it sounds like.
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[@RastaMouse1234]

X-pipe does sound a lot smoother , but without it was much cooler

[@KurumaDesigns]

The true duals sounded awesome! Kinda like a small v8 or an inline twin motorcycle, great video!

[@JB_Lego]

Agreed

[@spsproductions2614]

Awesome experiment and good work man! I still wanna hear 4 pipes all the way back😁

[@bryanbissell2915]

SAME!!!!

[@TheJEJster]

Check his most recent

[@dickkickem5277]

I wonder what an H pipe would do for the sound. Loved this experiment.

[@HatersGarage]

I'm wondering that too, I'm adding one soon

[@johns818]

The x pipe needs to be designed based on the firing order of an inline 4 cylinder engine 1-3-4-2. The two cylinders in the middle fire together against the outer cylinders. Meaning that the middle two cross into the outer two. Your design is blending the opposite firing cylinders into one before it even hits the cross section... which will make it sound like a single exhaust.

[@josephmiranda4568]

Really appreciate the content! Here's another thought for a potential future experiment. You're currently routing the runners from cylinders 1 and 2 together, and then 3 + 4 together. What if you instead combined runners from cylinders 1 and 4 together and then 2 + 3 together, since their pistons coincide with top stroke? Might give a different exhaust note. Then record what that would sound like with and without x pipe. Hopefully you give this a shot. Huge fan!

[@HatersGarage]

Thanks, yeah I made a video doing exactly that a couple weeks ago kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHanpYSmbdWibpYsi=jlOWjcokoyFhS27x

[@lazo1995]

I love your energy bro! You should definetively have more subs Keep the content coming

[@AIKA17R]

Saya baru selesai pengerjaan header, dan lanjut pengerjaan triple x pipe, terimakasih atas riset anda selama ini❤

[@jimmybritt9537]

I like it better without the x-pipe too 👍👍🇺🇸

[@SkylerB17]

The x pipe just makes it sound more like a basic 4 cylinder. albeit it did sound smoother. But yea no x pipe sounded super interesting. would love to hear it in person

[@guitrz000]

keep up the great work

[@HatersGarage]

Here's the other experiment videos True Dual: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5eVq4h4l8R0qqc H-Pipe: kzbin.info/www/bejne/noeun6msjrF3eac Changed Cylinder Pairing: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHanpYSmbdWibpY True Quad: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppangId5oMh_gMU

[@u.e.u.e.]

Very nice! 😃👍 I like the smooth sound.

[@greenblue980]

Thanks for filling my curiosity

[@Christdeliverme]

Got a sub for doing things differently. I've got lots of fun things for you to try.

[@terrynester]

Still sounds pretty good

[@billionllc]

Sounds great! 💥

[@jackrm8]

Time to make one of these

[@toyotabrony]

I honestly would love to have a full custom true dual exhaust on my 2015 lifted Scion xB. And I honestly see that make it sound more unique. Just two new magnaflow high-flow cat and two vibrant performance ultra quiet resonator. A full 2.5” exhaust. Now that I can see make ur more unique. More custom work but it be worth it.

[@GeekBabbling]

Sounds like a pair of motorcycles going together. Definitely an improvement over a regular 4

[@therealdaniel901]

X pipe refines the noise, true dual is just raw though. Great Video

[@BigDonkMongo]

ooooh, yeah better without the x pipe but i respect ur channel subbed cause this is gonna pop off

[@spectrospirit]

That true dual sound GLORIOUS!🤩🤩 I really wanna do this on my 4 other cars which I have in storage, just different ways of doing it for each and everyone! Can you please try to create a true quad exhaust going in to 4 more with more length on the tubing for the next 4 making the total of 8? I think having the regular outlet close to the bank and 4 more further out will make the sound of this 4 cylinder sound like an 8 cylinder with additional spacing of the next 4 exhaust pulses😃 Wanna give it a go?

[@fireblow6842]

I've been thinking about something similar for quite some time now. Would be epic to see

[@seppo1659]

With the X-pipe it sounds like in Live For Speed when you make a custom engine sound and turn the roughness all the way to zero

[@Drunken_Hamster]

So, I remember asking in the last vid if you did left half/right half, or inners and outers. You first replied the former, then made another comment correcting yourself saying it was the latter... However, based on your diagram in this video, it would be left half/right half. This is the traditional pairing for making a UEL, and if you made one pair 50% to 2x as long as the other, then joined them up into a single (or did an x-pipe) you'd get a subie rumble. On the other hand, if you changed it to inners and outers pair, it'd sound even more different (like a vintage British twin or BMW R1200), have better scavenging than left/right pairs, and subsequently doing the UEL thing to it might even make it sound a bit like a GT350 or a mid-80s Honda v65 magna with a MAC or Kerker 4-into-1 header, which I have videos of if you want to see/hear.

[@HatersGarage]

I was incorrect in the pairing of the headers, they were paired 1-3, 2-4. So the pulses were not even, which was the main reason for the choppy sound. I actually just finished changing the pairing of the headers, I'm editing that video right now.

[@ben2turnt713]

Xpipe raspier v6 trumpet Straights clappier v8 rumble I like both 😂

[@ridinglacs]

I like both sounds, I built a twin turbo 4 cyl and it could have used this x pipe

[@georgiaboy1579]

I like both but the x pipe sounds so much better

[@KeaganExtremeGaming]

The no x pipe reminds me of my forester when it had the stock na motor and exhaust

[@buildaboiworkshop]

That sounds so good now 😂😂😂 Seems like it revs slower with the x pipe

[@billionllc]

I think it sounds better now

[@Luminous.Dynamics]

Pls make unequal lenght header + the dual pipes

[@rootbeer666]

Nice weed trimmer sound

[@sinformant]

Are both of these just straight pipes? If so I think without the x pipe it would sound better with a couple mufflers or resonators to get rid of the rasp.

[@Gunny426HemiPlymouth]

Be neat to hear this on v6s

[@caboose22320]

Aye under 1000 subs club I WAS HERE YOURE GONNA GO FAR AS FUCK

[@matt16438]

Try true dual UEL length headers, basically an UEL length header split in half with one tube larger than the other and then the same for the other 2 tubes

[@HatersGarage]

Yeah I'm thinking I may make some EXTREMELY unequal length headers.

[@riogrande163]

@@HatersGarage have one pipe straight and the other go ROUNDROUNDROUNDROUND for a hot minute and then have it exit out-

[@braziliansheetbox2497]

​@@HatersGarageif you're going to make a uel header you May try a unique one, i've seen a lot of subaru style uel (1-2/3-4 1-3/2-4 2-4/3-1) all of then should sound like a subaru, but i never seen a 2-3 1-4 style, it should sound like 2 MT07 engines 😂

[@HatersGarage]

@@braziliansheetbox2497 I've had a lot of requests for headers, some crazier than others. Whichever I decide to go with it will be one-of-a-kind, that's for sure.

[@joshdaniel7894]

@@HatersGarageI’ve messed with unequal length headers and it made my ford sound like a boxer Subaru absolutely insane. I’m experimenting with a custom 4 to 4 header and 4 pipes all the way back. It’s got 4 1 3/4 pipes grouped together in twos routed like a dual exhaust about halfway back but I can’t even describe the sound it makes my crappy iPhone cant record it without brapping out lol

[@samuelasquith1151]

I’ve just watched your last vid and now this one, I wanna learn to weld to do this sort of stuff aha. Idk if you’ve done it but what about if you did 4 single pipes with 2 x pipes? So it would improve the flow and sound like the last vid? Thinking about it now I’m most likely wrong but hey ho

[@matthewmoore661]

Much better

[@user-sm9xd5gf9b]

Do a true quad exhaust but with 2 coupe’s one for each side

[@bigchi7635]

Straight to hell with the X PIPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@DavidHadden]

I have a 2014 Focus ST and I'm thinking I should throw an X pipe on it. Nothing I could find on KZbin about what that set up would sound like on my car so now I'm dead set on x pipe for my car.

[@charlieandersson4069]

subaru style headers next also callen un-equal headers

[@ACupOfDuck]

It does look like it runs a little better than dual? Like 0-60 looks like allmost 2 seconds faster with x-pipe? Would be cool to dyno this and really find out!

[@skyrfelkin]

Do individual exhausts from header back plzzzzzzzzz

[@LaZarusXtnct]

You cant. Theres only 1 header.

[@skyrfelkin]

@@LaZarusXtnct custom header

[@chasevollbrecht8085]

Theres some options that i just thought of i wonder if it would have any effect. H pipe? True duals with cylinder split 1,2 then 3,4 Patern change 1,3 then 2,4

[@niharkotyan7106]

Make twinturbo with k&n air filter and straight pipe exhaust

[@halfkoreanboy]

No x pipe sounds really good

[@dabreadman6567]

Can you do a pipe for each cylinder?😅

[@tptrsn]

I think maybe I prefer the X-pipe of the three.... At least from the video. Excellent job making interesting content, BTW!!

[@pottasium7117]

i kinda find this sounding like a cross between some sort of v6 and a b-series civic. Not a bad sound, but without is much better

[@joshrodgers9366]

Personally I like the true duals over the x pipe sound

[@spenceronni7]

Do a true dual by merging the outer two cylinders into one pipe, and the inner two into another.

[@lemon_w0ter196]

Ferb ik what we’re gonna do today

[@I_ammm_mojojojo]

try a boom tube

[@tmanrogers95]

I'm kind of curious what an h-pipe would sound like

[@davidwarland2680]

1-4 and 2-3 is the better connection, equal timed pulse

[@FlatEarthCracka]

Without x pipe sounds like the Subaru rumble

[@bass4life294]

X Pipe sounds like Need For Speed Underground ✅

[@Drummerdude686]

Sounds better without X pipe, What about a 4 cylinder turbo?

[@HatersGarage]

That would require 2 turbos. Same sound but extra turbo noises.

[@oscarzt1652]

all youve done here is re-discover the 4-2-1 manifold. the true dual sounds good though almost like an old alfa romeo or lancia rally car.

[@HatersGarage]

Sort of. It still a dual exhaust, it just sounds like a 4-2-1.

[@TeaganGagne]

how did you true dual pipie a 4cyl

[@Tyresong]

it sounded better when it had the nonturbo Impreza sound. the Xpipe made it sound like a honda

[@Richardp860]

The true duald sounds like an old Porsche boxer

[@danielhildebrand6892]

Now do a 1/3 2/4 split.

[@dawsonjackson1328]

can u get a v8 and put a shorty header on one side and a long tube on the other side

[@grantmills4184]

Sounds like a k20 with the x pipe

[@DTM.Desperado]

Hear me out, 4 pipes off the block, one per cylinder. Two pipes side exit one side, two pipes side exit the other side. True quad exhaust. How would it sound?

[@HatersGarage]

I did a true quad, I put them all on the same side though. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppangId5oMh_gMU

[@bladesbox10]

when from a subaru to a k series

[@accordv6er]

So xpipe here is like a mega long tri y header

[@flamespirit1]

Is that a song from Postal 2? 😅

[@4_14_fan]

Sounds like a baby gen 4 NASCAR

[@THESLlCK]

the true dual sounded WAYYYYYY better

[@cafn8ed74]

Yeah, definitely better without. I'll add, though that I'm the type who keeps driving his NA Subaru for another few years after the exhaust rots and falls off because it sounds good.

[@eliot3122]

h pipe maybe?

[@bomna5860]

The x pipe would sound like a v8 in qn engine that goes 11000 rpm

[@herbienbrian2]

This is sort of how BMW does it on their inline 6's.

[@HatersGarage]

Yeah they use the weird split manifolds, my E30 has it.

[@Atrociousa3]

What about twin turbos

[@HatersGarage]

I would totally do it. That would be a more "high budget" video for another time, though.

[@thatautogarage3644]

Damn, the X-pipe sounds way better and less inefficient.

[@HatersGarage]

It is definitely more efficient with the X-pipe. Personally I don't like the buzzy sound.

[@thekornrole]

went from a subaru to a 4 am neighbour civic

[@THEDnARACER]

Sooooo now unequal length headers

[@williamwebster2211]

sounds more luxury sport tone, don't know what your looking for, maybe just cut mufflers and run x-pipe open exhaust. it will kill all the power under 3500 rpm

[@moedog07]

No X pipe sounds best!

[@NewHamburgShenanigans]

Have to say no x pipe is more the sound I like

[@frightenedskillet1051]

I think so an x then shoot it out the sides and it’ll sound different

[@paullastname474]

H-pipe for the win!!!!!!!! try it bro

[@HatersGarage]

I probably will.

[@kccarranza2750]

Aight so... individual pipes for each cylinder but then x-pipe pairs.

[@kccarranza2750]

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[@HatersGarage]

200lbs of exhaust pipe later.. That's an idea though.

[@Bigbigpoopi]

​@@HatersGaragedo eet

[@giuliozappata1280]

I kinda prefer without the X pipe 😂

[@mattiasljus9423]

X-pipe a 5 cylinder just for the lols :D

[@raymondchen6720]

I wonder what a H pipe would sound like

[@johnpulei7916]

You forgetting the H PIPE🤦👍🥲

[@JB_Lego]

Pipe sounds like a honda

[@TransAmDrifter]

Now it sounds like a honda. Without xpipe was better

[@TheS1PikesPeak]

Do a ignition following header, you will get surprised..😎

[@KareemFloat]

1-3-4-2. like almost every other i4 engine both outer and both inners move together, you cant really do a set of headers like you can with v8s in a 8 into 1 to get that smooth f1 like sound as there's basically only 2 ignite cycles. he essentially made what you're asking for already. since both 3-4 and 1-2 ignite at the same time at tdc. if hooking up 1-2 and 3-4 is the header you want, its just gonna further sound like a less thumpy harley/2 cylinder and have worse exhaust flow than 1-3|4-2 headers he made.

[@BretButlerSr]

Add a h pipe

[@taliesinangling3564]

Pretty sure it isnt a true duel once there’s an X pipe or h pipe.

[@omalleyc068]

H pipe time? 😂

[@HatersGarage]

Lol. I'm guessing it would sound the same as the X pipe, but deeper.

[@Camarosindahood]

This kinda defeats the whole point though doesnt it? the fake duals of most 4 cylinders are just basically a long X pipe

[@1988silverado]

hear me out x pipe to h pipe or h pipe to x pipe

[@LuisELopezGarcia]

You probably have too large of a diameter for the dual without x pipe.

[@HatersGarage]

Oh absolutely, I just used 2" so I could put it on other stuff later.