Adding distance to the Forehand (Forehand Series Pt. 2)

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Josh (student) said that one image that helped him create the lag was envisioning the elbow going first. P.S. Thank Mikey for handling about 72 hours worth of footage on the edit for this video.

[@quakeworldtrickjumping693]

I’m hoping you’re doing angles, flightpaths and disc selection for part4 :)

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

@@quakeworldtrickjumping693 indeed. And touch shots.

[@joshwiesenauer426]

Wow. This video along with part 1 are hands down the best forehand tutorial videos I have seen. I have watch all of them that I can find on KZbin. I plan to spend the next week working in the field with these tips. Thank you!! 🙏🙏

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Thanks brother. We’ll catch you for part 3!

[@b-radg916]

YES!!! I've watched lots of others too, and yours are the most helpful... THANKS!

[@drewfasa]

This series has revolutionized my forehand. I was spending a ton of energy trying to snap my wrist and getting very little distance. Even just the mental image of throwing a hammer has made my forehand start to click and I'm getting way more distance with way less effort. Keep it up guys, you are the best disc golf teacher on the internet.

[@M0O0NM4N]

I’ll be surprised if yall don’t blow up within the year, all of these vids are top notch.

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Let it be written

[@85puppydog]

@@OverthrowDiscGolf So let it be done.

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Nicolas Barbeito yes! Haha. Thanks for getting that reference

[@shanecoleman]

This guy is so good.. honestly Every aspect of the game is A+ instructional. I have a hard time with forehand consistency, it's odd cuz when you take stills of me pitching a baseball up untill 20 years I have a pretty wicked sidearm... Only thing that helped me was lower body focus, and at the "hammer hit point" making sure my Palm / deep Palm.. pretty much the base of the wrist is projected in the direction I'm aiming.. this creates that lag, and boom rips your wrist action! Feels so easy when it all times up right

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

History of throwing ball sidearm? Huge advantage

[@wrappinggecko2517]

The production quality on these are amazing, I am genuinely suprised you guys dont have more subs!

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Thank you so much

[@Logansf410]

I agree. Not only did this series help me fine tune my forehand, but it was a joy to watch in terms of production value. Deserves way more subs. I think he'll get them.

[@prattacaster]

Well, cause I already forehand 500ft 🙄

[@bababoeba]

Way too many cuts imo. Good info but it's like you're watching a video with missing frames. Annoys the hell out of me. There's nothing wrong with a 1 second pause between sentences every now and again. Still good information though.

[@Railer61]

This clarified one thing I had always thought, it's not actually "flicking the wrist" it's letting the motion flick the wrist.

[@cheezywiz254]

These videos have made my forehand a new weapon on the course and as a result, I am finally starting to see myself be competitive in local tournaments. I'm a lefty so a forehand is crucial, but I learned backhand first and now I feel just as confident in each shot. Thank you for the awesome videos!

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Yeah brotha. Good stuff!

[@mitchellgeisler4577]

Im new to the game, but this is absolutely my weak point! I think with some practice and notes from your video it may become a strength! So excited to get out this afternoon and work on this

[@MsGJM2294]

Yeah these tutorials are fire. I have an ok fore hand but I'm excited to put these ideas into practice and get better at it epically with body movement and how that should work. Keep up the good work!

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Thanks mark. Hope it keeps trending upward for ya

[@jonbowman5647]

Awesome video! Thank you Overthrow disc golf! Cant wait for third installment.

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Practice and we’ll see you for footwork in the next one

[@jmwalls73]

Outstanding. Thank you.

[@sinceduden]

Started to play discgolf in 2020. My forhand was dog water until i startet to cock my wrist back (like the hammer of a single action revolver). Went from a wobbly 50 meters to 125 meters real quick, and the distance is increasing!

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Wow. That’s a jump for sure

[@sinceduden]

Have to say that it was not just like that. Spent hours upon hours. Not a very original saying but, technique > power

[@jeff-ji3kh]

very concise and practical thought process

[@Precisionmagert]

As a person who's forehand dominant 80% of the time.. This video is definitely helpful

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Thank you!

[@facelessce]

Used your advice you gave me on y I’m getting wobble when I throw and I must say thanks it’s working.

[@bosta84]

Great video(s)! I really enjoy and appreciate you breaking down step-by-step. Thank you!

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Absolutely

[@jbranco]

Some good swing thoughts in this video. Great job, keep it up!

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Thanks!

[@Nnubbs]

From someone who can’t throw this way, I’m excited to go try it

[@robroy_in_atx]

Y’all are both getting better at the same time.

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Me and Mikey? Me and Josh? Mikey and Josh?

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

I have questions and I need answers. Lol. Who’s getting better at what?

[@jeff-ji3kh]

@@OverthrowDiscGolf the last step to mastery is teaching. when you teach other players, your comprehension of the game is improved

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

zach makes sense

[@nicholasboucher4071]

This is just so difficult for me. I tend to try too hard to muscle it and throw it up instead of out. I keep coming back to these videos and filming myself.. slowly making progress!

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

that's how we do it. Slow and arduous lol

[@jimmymullis4655]

Great video. i struggle with my forehand and this helps a lot!

[@davidmcarter7031]

Excited to try this stuff soon! Thanks y’all

[@CrowHagen1986]

i just have to say, I LOVE the way you teach, very very good :D , i have shwon your videoes to many new players, and i altso use your videos to help teach new and up and coming players get better, WE NEED THIS!!! THANK YOU

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Thank you so much! Sharing the content helps us out A LOT!

[@CrowHagen1986]

@@OverthrowDiscGolf Dude! you guys need to be shown to the world, btw, from Norway here so you have come FAR ;)

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

@@CrowHagen1986 we’d like to make it out there someday

[@CrowHagen1986]

@@OverthrowDiscGolf if your ever here, then hook me up, having you at the local course would help you, your channel, and us players in a huge way

[@CrowHagen1986]

i might even pick you up in the family limo for show too :P

[@markhumphrey8894]

I like the keeping the head down looking more at the hit and not looking up to see where the disc goes. That's what I am guilty of. What is the Maroon disc with the orange OT logo. Beautiful laser and low flight!

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

It’s a leopard

[@bepriceless]

You're a good teacher; I'd love to take a lesson from you.

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Thank you. You can catch us on Patreon or I’m in Lynchburg, Va if you’re local.

[@plainAssK]

Easily the best and most informative disc golf video I have ever watched. You broke everything down perfectly and I actually feel like I learned lots of helpful tips that will improve my game.

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Thank you for the kind comment

[@biggiebutters2251]

Just got back from a round! I really need to work on my forehand!

[@Sapfo26]

Hello, great explenation series about the forehand💯%👍 But I have one question about the nose angle, I can throw flat on forehand but to throw nose down is hard. Are you suposed to throw nose down on forehand and then bring the disc upp at the same time and then release the disc🤪? How does that work? I have tried but, is it even possible? I think maybe this is why I'm lacking in distance? Gratefull for some answers or a fifth video about that, thanx in advance👍🙏

[@konnerkennedy1869]

LOVE IT! These vids are so clean and se helpful

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Thanks Konner

[@birdieran876]

Thank you for the video-well done and very helpful!

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Thanks for tuning in

[@clawshooter5867]

I always thought that the pro pull was a gimmick for backhand. However I tied some exercise bands to a goal post and felt the disc lag on forehand by trying to pull the band just with my hips

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Smart. That’s probably the correct way to do it

[@danlewis1885]

@@OverthrowDiscGolf There's a video on ProPull website of Kevin Jones showing this lag action. Helped me...

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Dan Lewis good look!

[@davidcurrie5619]

More great content! Keep up the great work!

[@Cabelly]

Great video!! (Immediately heading to the field)

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

May the odds be ever in your favor

[@traceturner3329]

You talk about having the front/lead arm at that 90 degree angle. I wonder if as disc golf forms advance, you'll see something like MLB pitchers do with their glove/lead arms. Where they throw it out straight and then rip it back towards their bodies to get more torque. In Eagle's video on sidearms, you can kind of see that change depending on how hard he is throwing the disc.

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Maybe! I should experiment with it.

[@zachkeene212]

MLB pitchers don't do that

[@traceturner3329]

@@zachkeene212 kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4OzpYmcet9nm9U

[@zachkeene212]

@@traceturner3329 he's not pulling the glove into his body I was a pitcher and what u do is leave ur arm there and turn into it which is what's happening it gives the illusion of pulling the glove in but that's not what u do

[@marttireineholm4065]

Thanks for a truly great vid, and very instructive, among the best i´v seen so far:). What discs are you throwing with at this lesson?

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Just whatever fairway and distance drivers we had between the two of us. Not focused on flight but on release so stability wasn’t that important

[@turgeonphysics]

Lag! I've been watching slo-mos of pros and also baseball sidearm tutorials. It's the lag. Even Sexton, who seems stiff like maybe he's pushing, he's got a lot of lag at the hit. Everybody also seems to have throwing elbow up to start, then swings it down and forward to leave disc behind. A good elbow "swing thought"?

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Yep. A lot of guys do it that way with the elbow swinging in and down. Good thought

[@mercthelurk11dg]

Another great video.- The first video helped me and my buddy immediately just thinking about the hammer (as we like to say... "Hammer Time").- Now we can use this to build on the first one.- The idea of keeping the elbow and wrist inline is just hitting me in the face like "YEA! Try me out!!!".- I can't wait for the next.- Maybe you can do a backhand breakdown like this too...

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

So glad to help. We plan on hitting some backhand aspects hard in future videos. Not sure when we will build one from scratch though.

[@joshdchiefman1]

❤

[@Jslangner]

The disc lag absolutely happens in the backhand as well. You also want the hips to lead the torso to lead the shoulder to lead the elbow yada yada very similar really.

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

It does! Hopefully I didn’t say that it doesn’t happen in the backhand. If I did it was unintentional

[@waynejimenez9243]

Any suggestions on the " level" of shoulders... looks like you dip the back shoulder a bit... wouldn't that send the path of the disc up?

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Since you’re dropping your elbow down a little bit to get into the slot it makes since for the right shoulder to drop and left to go up a little bit in their rotation. If I were throwing an anhyzer you would see the opposite happening. Maybe not so important to worry about the shoulder angle but instead allowing them to rotate fully and naturally

[@kieronmckay4276]

How do we square comparing to Eagle's technique with the fact that he's recently hurt his arm doing these and the guy is so young? Not asking to be a jerk, asking because I think doing this and not destroying your shoulder and elbow is a really important part of throwing far...

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Right. That’s a tough one considering how Eagle got hurt. He wasn’t doing a normal forehand and didn’t warm up properly. Add to that he throws absolute bombs and you’re left guessing. Injury happens to the best athletes in sports and sometimes it’s not due to faulty form. Sometimes it isn’t. Sorry for the non answer answer but I don’t think eagles throwing mechanics are bad.

[@randydueck8400]

So would you still advise the hammer drill from the first video or is that not a good idea either?

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Hammer is a good drill to get the feel and to loosen up the wrist. In other words it wasn’t a mistake to teach it, but rather part of the progression

[@randydueck8400]

@@OverthrowDiscGolf Got it, thanks

[@MichaCnk]

Great stuff guys. Really changed how I think about the sidearm throw quite a bit. Quick question: Did you ever have a breakthrough in your form which you then lost after some time? How would you go about getting back to the better form? Cheers from Germany and keep it coming

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Usually when you lose the breakthrough you lost track of the mindset that got you there in the first place. For example, if you were a good putter and thought “shake hands with the basket”. You did that for a couple months and then you learned something new and replaced the image that worked. Like “make sure my downswing does this.” You need to go back to the original image that created the right action whatever that was. Usually people lose it when they replace or add something to the thing that already worked.

[@MichaCnk]

@@OverthrowDiscGolf I tried focusing on the mental cues yesterday and it did wonders for me when it comes to driving and putting. Great advice!

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Good!

[@TheSully4545]

How would you address someone with a good forehand and no disc lag like Ezra Aderhold? Him and Tristan Tanner discovered this in their new video together

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

I saw that! Interesting since he can get it like 70 mph. I’d have to talk to him to find out what he thinks the motion is. I generally try to get someone’s understanding of the motion in their own words and then address the way they visualize the stroke. Usually there is something wrong with their understanding so you have to overwrite that before trying anything. Most likely he is trying to push the disc or he doesn’t understand how spin is added. Then it’s a matter of finding out what pictures and drills work for him.

[@Steinrotic]

My middle and index fingers are so much further up the disc than my thumb...how do you get the pinch between the thumb and index finger? Curl the fingers or is my thumb way too low?

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

It's more like the index knuckle that's the pinch point.

[@Steinrotic]

@@OverthrowDiscGolf got it, thanks!

[@OkieTradez]

you can tell guy is trying his hardest but juuuuust cant get his forearm to level out with his bicep on the full extension before he goes forward with throw! probably a lot harder than it looks will have to start working my forehand game!

[@CentralOSurvival]

Thank you for this... how do I get a form check?

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Hey Jason. We shifted form reviews to Patreon benefits since we were becoming quickly overwhelmed. The link is in the description

[@CentralOSurvival]

@@OverthrowDiscGolf sweet! Thanks man..you've helped my game a bunch!

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Our pleasure

[@blakesides6558]

@@OverthrowDiscGolf Can i pay you for a private form review?

[@BillFromAZ]

What discs is he throwing? And what is the distance?

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Fairway and distance drivers. He’s probably getting them 250+ here

[@chrispenick3078]

[@jjw6961]

So the whole premise of the first video is bs? Hope that doesn't become a regular thing; last thing people need is another Danny teaching bad habits.

[@OverthrowDiscGolf]

Nope. Not bs. Sometimes in coaching you start with an over exaggeration to break bad habits.

[@jaymcmorris1629]

@mike honcho When does Danny teach bad habits?

[@jeff-ji3kh]

eh. lots of mechanically sounds information here. form is art not science. you take the bits and pieces that work for you and leave out the stuff that doesn't. I throw garbage forehands anything that isnt an upshot . theres 2 specific things in this video that reminded me why they suck. 1. dont push the shot. 2. clear the right hip

[@pookiefromtheheights1109]

Literally building technique with hammers over here!🥇💪🏽🔨 The proof is in the POP ay Josh?!🥏😎easy