Addressing The Roster Change | The OpTic Podcast Ep. 205

[@ErickKhan]

Christmas Wish List: 1. Pred getting better 2. The downfall of Atlanta Faze 💯

[@e90addi]

This mf erick be watching cdl and optic??? No shot

[@MOB_JD]

@@e90addiit's him bozo 😂

[@e90addi]

@@StussyOG1 nah I haven’t I had no idea

[@e90addi]

@@MOB_JD aight mob_jd

[@g_on_cue7237]

Just drazah not the other 3

[@Reviqs]

Hitch is just sitting there like “I get paid to be here” 😂

[@azreal8169]

he’s been that way for years.

[@SCRIMS11]

Anyone would be like that at their job lol

[@Jaronable]

My issue is that optic is telling two stories here. They erased him from the org and it has already been confirmed he is a free agent and no longer with optic. Then hecz comes on here and says he been in constant contact and that pred is just having mental issues and then spends the 7 minutes of the Roster Update section of the video literly not updating us on anything we already do not know, but instead spends that time trying to shame the community for pressing to know more. It's all just weird. Idc to know there personal issues. But there’s clearly more to it and no one unfollows you on their social account if you’re just going through personal issues. Especially someone who wins your org a championship (LIKE CRIMSIX). Doesn’t make sense.

[@alcavila9613]

Probably has to do with sponsorship contracts. Like they can’t continue to have Pred’s face next to the optic brands amidst the controversy but they didn’t wanna address anything until pred does. On top of it being personal (none of our business) and not business/cdl related. Can’t keep him on the payroll after all the budget cuts this past year. They’re supporting AG behind the scenes and that’s what matters.

[@samba9224]

@@alcavila9613 why is struggling with mental health issues controversial?

[@keeganripley3118]

@@poorchrisdid you watch preds video?

[@DaZed_Visions]

That’s how business and sponsorships work, they can’t use preds face for Marketing if he’s not on the roster.

[@shotashifps6429]

Saaaaaammmeee

[@davidchoate8493]

Well here we go boys…

[@1jaedan]

7 mins of fluff but I sure clicked this pod fast lmaoo wp OpTic

[@crunchtimeplaya9784]

U really wanted attention just say it gey a job bruh

[@AdamYT24]

Here we did in fact not go

[@Oddly-SatisfyMe]

@@1jaedanthe guy has a gambling problem or some kind of mental problem. It’s clear now. Stop reaching.

[@jnewb]

They don’t owe you or anyone else answers

[@juanponce6284]

Big Tymer to starting roster confirmed????

[@Trap4DaysOfficial]

He already smoking thieves i heard.

[@alextv293]

Big T would go hard

[@TheShreddDude]

“Yeah I’m back on the team. Pussies finally decided they need me”

[@boomshot24]

that man somewhere trading stocks and talking abt bitcoin

[@jzam3220]

Big Tymer is blind as hell. He wouldn’t even be able to find bomb off the floor.

[@Creamyyeast]

“Random people wanting to know” but yet they want donations from randoms on their chat lol

[@PhoenlxResaIe]

slump wouldn't do any of this for a basic low end salary

[@607995]

OpTic's handling of the situation caused the speculation. also theyre acting like this isnt a big deal when this is the craziest midseason rostermania in recent memory and involves the biggest team.

[@patrickthomas2650]

When there’s no preview in the intro you know it’s about to be serious

[@TooSixx]

Should be titled “Dancing around the roster change.”

[@Illumangati]

You really missed the point

[@GioLovesYou]

Brain dead

[@RodieBeats]

holy shit dude how badly could u and the other 100 people who liked this comment miss the point? hes having mental health issues and its none of OUR business.

[@delly1845]

ayo maybe you should air out your dirty laundry for the world to know since you seem so nosy

[@tpriceee]

@@RodieBeatsit’s the avg social rejects that have nothing going on, they’ve got no respect

[@Niinjie]

the true OpTic fans know how you treat players, always the best and we know you wouldn't just kick pred to the curb

[@embracingpeace2509]

That's a lie. There Definitely lying. Pred said he doesn't know what's going to happen when he comes back. Which means he's a free agent and he knows he's coming back. And yet they didint save his spot for him. Plus in social media world when you unfriend somebody ,It's usually for a crazy reason.

[@jackalazzerking3219]

​​@@embracingpeace2509They didn't save a spot because Pred said NOT to save a spot for him lmao. You got concrete in your ears? How you going to claim that you know better, than the literal optic team lmao.

[@AJ-vc6dm]

@@embracingpeace2509 Dude let it go, he isn't coming back holy fuck.

[@YouGotTheFlue]

@@embracingpeace2509Pred said himself they offered to bench him but he refused, because he thinks it is unfair to Huke. Get your facts before spouting nonsense.

[@Jaronable]

@@YouGotTheFlue okay then why rush to erase him from everything optic than? Please do explain that one chief

[@finalskater]

why didn’t they address dropping him from the team when they could’ve benched him. and they didn’t answer why everyone unfollowed him

[@milkvalkiiry2424]

He said he didn’t know when he’d be back or if he would. Why are you going to pay someone to not do their job?

[@Casualviewer713]

couldn't uphold his contract how it goes

[@CamMackay96]

​@@milkvalkiiry2424 Hecz has done that multiple times before for other OpTic guys like Maniac and Boze. Why not for Pred?

[@masoncoxon7216]

bro only the optic brand unfollowed him - all the players / all the optic members still follow him

[@xblessth3fallx]

And "benching" him means he still has to abide by contractual conditions practice , appearances , streaming etc whatever terms they agreed upon. They did what they did to let him be free of anything to focus on himself. Stop speculating stop talking shit . Worry about ur damn selves.

[@setitfree78]

The truth of the situation will come out in time.

[@PhoenlxResaIe]

someone will leak it

[@OctaneIsNot6ft]

Yo why the hell is Hitch repping a Bournemouth FC shirt lmaooo

[@RizzanalGyatib]

probably tyler adams

[@andrebaeni8129]

he is man of the world, he will rep any shirt xD

[@valeribajer1618]

Bandwagon vibes 😂

[@Nathan-eb7zu]

Who’s Bournemouth FC? I only see an AFC Bournemouth shirt

[@jakeonyx4775]

He’s been wearing Bournemouth tops for years, assuming he just liked the kit

[@lucerodelgado4130]

Tactical Rab licking his lips after he already released all those videos on the speculation

[@BreakingPointGG]

Bruh

[@0hJay]

@@BreakingPointGGlmao

[@WillyLionHeart]

@@BreakingPointGGdamm the channel it self 😂

[@mattdten2361]

I think rab has been pretty fair on the speculation, especially compared to some. He's been fairly impartial, hasn't knocked the org. I thought nades comments as an org owner, former optic member and close friend to the optic boys, was worse. The whole situation has been like mud clear.

[@reireiismeme]

@@mattdten2361 brother, hes posted every rumor, speculation and dumb allegation no matter how ridiculous they are. You're trippin

[@josephportillo8987]

It is not like most of us are trying to infringe on AG's personal life. Completely understandable to keep things private. But as supporters and people who give their hard earned money and time to watch and support Optic and its members, they should be able to know clear answers to questions such as, Is Pred apart of the org, why did "friends" unfollow him, is he able to come back, etc.. Not to mention as an org, you guys were very unprofessional not even announcing his departure or a thank you and such. I think it is wrong to tell people who are half the reason you guys have suched blessed careers and opportunities to not ask the simplest of questions regarding Pred. Again, unprofessional.

[@pumaesports5322]

OpTic*

[@josephportillo8987]

@@pumaesports5322 fr😑

[@ShmurkyDurky]

They don’t care about your opinion man. It’s professional to them.

[@kronicassault1374]

Yea he should have had a Thank you at the end for sure. Pretty trashy move

[@Pedro-yr6nk]

They dont owe you shit tbh. What are you going to do about it? Cant do anything but keep watching

[@aowisbeast]

2:40 did Boze lag out i swear mans didn't blink or move a inch

[@Huskers239]

Bro just smelling his upper lip 😂 must've ate some ass

[@terrazasd]

H3cz hit the lag switch

[@Jack_Mehoff]

Bro I’m fuckn dying How has nobody else noticed this 😂😂

[@SkimpedTerps]

Bruh I’m so dead Boze was in super deep thought 😂😂😂

[@Senad-t6j]

Booze holding back his thoughts so hard 😂😂😂

[@braydenjames21]

Nah. You don’t edit a guy out from everything, unfollow him, etc. if he is just having mental health issues. Optic has never been like that.

[@goonmal]

bro 🤦🏽‍♂️ yall can’t be serious 🤣

[@byStuhnz]

Weirdo activity.

[@braydonleffler3097]

Wdym? He’s not apart of the team anymore he doesn’t know how much time he needs off so they released him. They’re going to edit him out and unfollow him because he is not apart of the optic organization simple as that.

[@loresun1596]

Absolutely. It doesn't take a genius to see that it's obviously more significant than just oh he's depressed....

[@topnotchkeith8353]

@@braydonleffler3097 why make the decision to completely cut ties just like that, why not bench him for a few months and see if he can make it back? you guys are mad at ppl that can see right through the bs lol yall are too damn gullible

[@Cactus___Zach1]

There’s a difference between getting benched and getting dropped for personal reasons. Getting dropped implies there was internal conflict… they would speculate just as much if one of their favorite athletes was cut from their team without an explanation.

[@AlexWood66]

People respond very eager to know because it was not properly addressed and it looked like pred as basically blacklisted by the org being removed from everything. If a statement was released to the fans saying that pred is going back home to Australia to handle a personal situation that came up, and Huke is coming in as a replacement in the mean time until we know more, no one would have tripped out.

[@Alreadykn0w]

The chats were going crazy but wouldn’t been so bad if optic from beginning got ahead of it and tweeted officially saying pred stepped down due to personal issues and hukes being brought up instead of saying nothing and letting ppl speculate and unfollowing pred which makes it look like pred might have done something. Same if your favorite tv show main character all of sudden gets replaced middle of show, it’s a public organization with tons of fans invested. if ppl still spamming chats or saying fucked shit they gotta F off now.

[@XxKoRupTioN]

yes

[@DaZed_Visions]

Acting like people still wouldn’t speculate and make rumors, if they did that is insane. That would’ve brought even more unwanted spamming in chat asking about it when it’s not their business to speak on someone’s personal issues

[@Alreadykn0w]

@ acting like saying nothing is Better then something lol there’s a reason every major business/ company does. that’s just stupid to think, obviously the little kids are gonna still say something to troll but moronic to think woulda been way better not to

[@Chief_Soma]

​@@DaZed_Visions bro grow up lol

[@hashslingingslasher42]

​@Alreadykn0w this and adding fuel to the fire by unfollowing him on OpTic socials was also dumb. He doesn't play for the team sure but they still follow the halo team who were all dropped and follow courage and nadeshot who are owners of a different org. It was handled piss poor if this is all that happened.

[@vvocky]

There was a good amount of people donating to the watch party talking about, “I’ve been with this community for this long, and I’m so disappointed that Hecz hasn’t made an announcement about this yet.” When I feel like a majority expected Pred to make the first move to talk about it.

[@Metahlz]

Anyone that’s actually been in the community for “so long” knew Hecz was going to wait for said player to come out with their story. Same thing happened when Scump went to nV for a week, the dynasty squad broke up, etc.

[@bunnerrean]

That all makes sense but unfollowing and editing him out of pictures isn’t exactly waiting for him to make the first move

[@bryandedon7459]

Clearly a majority expected optic to make a statement first. They released a player, picked up a new one and didn't say shit about it except release a picture with the new player in it days later. Nobody expected hecz to come out and say exactly what happened but they did expect a statement clarifying what happened. Instead they left it up to speculation. An official statement should have been released saying pred is stepping away for personal reasons and huke is taking his place and we wish nothing but the best for pred. That would have fixed all this. Radio silence, taking his check mark, unfollowing him, altering pictures of him and not saying his name made things 10x worse.

[@vvocky]

@@bryandedon7459With it being a personal problem, we as random ass fans have no right to have to know what’s going on. Since it’s not league related, i would never ever expect them to speak on it first. I don’t know what to tell you about unfollowing him, other than he’s not on OpTic so he doesn’t need to have the checkmark… the altering photos tho I couldn’t tell you, and am not willing to speculate.

[@ElSanchoOnYT]

I love you OpTic. You guys are inspiring me everyday to continue my journey to the top. God bless the Greenwall, thank you for the great friends n memories I’ve made just being a part of the community.

[@ryanbryce3259]

Man you need to go outside and get some real friends wtf

[@Mossbergg]

Coming at passionate fans wanting to know the truth behind a beloved player being dropped is certainly a move. How can you blame anyone for asking questions on socials when you say literally nothing and letting the rumors go rampant

[@JonahTz]

Holy crap perfectly timed lunch break 👌🏻 Hecz LOVES that throat spray. Pause.

[@burkedigital]

This organization needs someone PR savvy in the mix because the narrative of the situation is already beyond OpTic’s grasp. They could have set it from the start. Now they get on a lil podcast to call the community stupid, insensitive and entitled. Great job - that will fix things, for sure!

[@LxttleSZN]

The problem is the community feels entitled to information and they are not. All of yall babies crying about what happened. If they don't want to talk about it they dont have to, because its personal. simple. stop crying

[@burkedigital]

@@LxttleSZN I hear you, trust me I'm not crying - more concerned about the way the org is approaching it. Both sides you're describing have merit here. The org doesn't have to do anything. The fans who show up and directly support the product are literally invested and want more transparency. I feel you though, people have been wild about this.

[@CarnageJesterX]

​@@burkedigitalstop sitting on the fence when confronted. Stick to your original statement. Both aren't correct. Full transparency when a player is removed from an organization. Shareholders, investors & fans need an explanation. Not a talking down to moment because you have no business sense to handle it before fans speculate. They do need pr training. They are drunk, high, unintelligent gamers, how they run an organization is why this is happening in their comments. They don't understand anything except hecz wants money & sponsors. Thats why there is no reason, just fake guise of mental health issues and personal issues. Just say it's gambling, but optic can't afford losing gambling sponsors. Simple. Everyone knows maniac Nick went to rehab, nobody cares. Pred & optic just trying to hide problems so no bad light is shed onto the organization. Since they promote unhealthy lifestyles of drinking alcohol, smoking weed, gambling, late night gaming marathons, ordering take out always. It's a frat house waiting to implode.

[@jacobwaddell6075]

Love clicking on Optic videos when they highlight something legit concerning and they don’t say shit about it but make an hour long video good god sheesh 😂

[@tylernelson4901]

Lmao. “Addressing the roster change” Still waiting for you to actually do that

[@PhoenlxResaIe]

100

[@anthonyruiz2420]

Keep waiting bum

[@cashconte2540]

Pred is gone, Huke is subbing in. What more addressing is needed bro

[@Jackie_Fhan]

@@cashconte2540 the funny thing is they didn't even say that

[@cashconte2540]

@ well yeah but anyone with eyes can see what happened. Personally if I was Pred I wouldn’t want OpTic talking about my stuff to millions of people so I don’t blame them for being vague

[@danielgarza6876]

Hecz is SPOT ON about that bee spray. Trust.

[@94nolo]

our speculation is gross? instead of releasing a general statement, you all unfollowed him. this is a spectator sport, don't lash out at spectators for responding.

[@adiddy707]

Optic could have released a statement the moment the roster changed happened that said, “Pred is taking a step back from the team to deal with a personal matter, we support him through this time.” That would have alleviated tons of speculation and rumor without putting his business in the street. Instead you wait for Pred to make a statement that didn’t tell anybody much anyway, and your org gets hit with a ton of criticism and rightly so. Then you attack the ppl criticizing how the situation was handled. Not a good look.

[@JSTJAGE]

They all literally said that it was personal issues

[@HaIIoweezy]

its very simple, not your business

[@robert1757]

@@HaIIoweezy Hecz said he can't speak on anything that isn't his business but shouldn't he speak on his business (Optic)

[@bryandedon7459]

​@HaIIoweezy they are a professional org. Imagine Patrick mahomes steps down for personal reasons and the chiefs don't say a word until a week later when pat says something. This is a business and a professional organization with tons of fans who support them and made all this happen. The least you should do is make a statement. They never even made a statement. It got leaked and then days layer they show a picture with huke in it. Literally all they had to say was pred is stepping down for personal reasons, we wish him the best and huke is coming in to take his place. Instead it was radio silence which led everybody else to fill it with speculation.

[@JSTJAGE]

@ they literally said it was for personal reasons, the fact that people speculated is on them, people hate taking responsibility for their own actions

[@adiddy707]

With all respect to Hecz. Gotta disagree with him on the way the situation was handled. Any public facing sports franchise would have to released a statement the moment a star player is removed from the team. But to wait a whole week to address what’s going on is very amateur like way.

[@DsoundsOfficial]

I suspect that this is a situation they have never come across and do not have a past blueprint to navigate it. I suspect Pred has done something very unprofessional but under the guise of mental health. A bit like cheating on your girl whilst drunk or high.

[@lagunacinematics]

bro nobody owes you anything lmao. if you don't like how optic is handling it then just stop supporting them? lmao.

[@Oddly-SatisfyMe]

Buddy a situation occurred that is not good to share with the masses. You are the masses, stop expressing your parasocial relationship by expecting stuff from ppl who don’t owe you something like that. They gave you answers you just don’t want to hear it….

[@the.jonfernandez]

Good thing this isn’t a sports franchise

[@Metahlz]

Not at all lmao. Lebron James just recently didn’t play for multiple games for personal reasons, and you didn’t see anyone calling for the Lakers to come out and say what is going on with him. You don’t need to know everything personal going on in someone’s life especially from another persons mouth. If Pred wants to come out and say what the personal issues are then he is free to do that, but if Hecz comes out and says it for Pred, that could pull Pred away from wanting to be in OpTic if the team wants him back.

[@dallinw8592]

i think the issue is probably a bigger deal, thus the vagueness from optic and pred. it seems like theyre just putting everything on pred a bit

[@YouGotTheFlue]

Hector, socials nowadays are chalked. There are always entitled people or people looking to put others down. But if anyone in life would have 1 person like you in theirs, they are blessed. You go above and beyond for your friends and the people you regard as family behind the screens, without seeking any form of validity. You are a gem of a person, and we will always love and admire you. You choose to be the best version of yourseld every time and inspire people to do the same. You are truly one of a kind. Much love 💚

[@OrionInSpace]

I certainly agree with your point about social media I think for the last 6 or so years it has progressively declined in the kind of stuff that we see of it online. Like I remember Twitter, and all these places were so much better but then you started to see these platforms progressively get worse because of all the monetization policies and the algorithms and what not. it has made people act worse on them so that’s why you can’t really take anything seriously anymore on them. Especially Twitter man it has become a dumpster fire.

[@MrCornaldo]

Regardless… y’all mis handled the situation by not releasing a statement!

[@MrCornaldo]

Could have been so easy!

[@GamingWithHerbo]

Optic doesnt owe you a statement you, you dont work for them

[@Quintin15]

Yes just tell everyone he’s gambling screw up and is under investigation by the CDL 😂 that will sit well

[@CarlitosPR94]

Pred not playing for Optic again makes no sense so I don't blame all the Optic fans who were upset or confused thinking their being lied to on what exactly is happening with Pred. Alot of misleading behavior to be honest. What does his mental problem have to do with the org, why does deleting his Optic Badge?? Is the unfollowing from X false or fake news?? I would argue Optic fans are super supportive but not with this lying because some of this has to be lies.

[@richm5719]

The claim with the badge is that they'd have to pay for additional badges, so they took off Preds in favor of Huke, as Huke is actively playing for OpTic.

[@cheflazy]

There was no misleading behaviour on Optics part at all, this was on the community bringing bullshit up and running rumours (other than gambling) to the point where it was seriously psychotic. Its nobodies business other than those personally involved to which the community is not

[@cleanestkarma367]

My issue with the whole pred situation is when Maniac had has issue with addiction nobody unfollowed him, he didn’t get dropped from the org, everyone rallied around him and took him to get help. When it came to pred everyone is being radio silent(not meaning they aren’t talking about everything going on with him bc that’s wrong it’s preds issues), they are dodging and banning everything related to pred, removing him from EVERYTHING optic, and all optic accounts unfollowed him. There’s more to it than mental issues we’re skeptical bc we’ve been here since maniac and seen the way yall handled that. I don’t condone everyone coming into chats and spamming about pred or getting upset that yall aren’t speaking on the mental and personal issues pred himself is dealing with. But I do believe there’s a lot of other questions that can for sure be answered. Like why optic unfollowed him and erased him from everything. I truly pray that Pred gets better, everything gets resolved and he gets perfect healing! Ready to watch his comeback!

[@Mitch-l9r]

No one cares about your issue and what you think you sausage, Pred has given his story and so have OpTic there’s nothing more to be said, difference between Pred and Maniac, Maniac wasn’t competing on a pro team and wasn’t on 6 figures a year plus maniac took the help they offered him, Pred didn’t want any help and it was his decision to step back from the Org, actually listen to what they’ve both said instead of giving your dumb opinion you spanner

[@bobjofinn12345]

addressed nothing.. just some political side stepping. all we wanted was a statement or something not radio silence. Now we’re left more confused than we started.

[@byStuhnz]

“Nade was right WE NEED MORE information because none of this adds up” 😂

[@goonmal]

@@bobjofinn12345 yeah you clearly didn’t listen to shit and are so out of touch and terminally online that you don’t even understand the simple shit that was said my god yall need to deadass touch grass

[@MoTiioN14]

someone is going though something personal. theres nothing to address. you're and i (the viewers) not affected by this by any means. move on

[@bunszheider376]

Cry some more. You ain't owed any explanation whatsoever. Yet you got one and are still crying!! LOL

[@alejocald9356]

there is nothing to address, we dont need to know more, optic is there for Pred, Pred is going through personal stuff, Huke is now in the roster, thats its.

[@anthonymittiga7214]

I wanna hear about the Optic Halo drama. I know most don’t but hurricane Piper and the aftermath in the scene is pretty wild. To split up ssg who just won 3 of 4 majors and take worlds like it’s just crazy.

[@ImReflexess]

You could always address the issue by shutting down certain rumors and not exposing the truth tho.... Seth, Optic, Hector couldve nipped the gambling issues immediately if they weren't true. "Was Pred gambling on CDL matches?" OpTic: "No" or how it went down "Was Pred Gambling on CDL matches?" OpTic: "................................" I understand not addressing personal friends and business relations but Seth banning the word instead of just clearing up major rumors couldve been plenty helpful and helped douse the fire.

[@altonmartin-y6j]

aye hecz that was me! it was a blessing to meet you in japan man. last thing i would expect haha

[@flanask6677]

but whats crazy is you just tried to erase pred and hes an OpTic Gaming CHAMPION!! and to just blame us??? cause we want to know what the truth is... cause it seems like way more than mental health Illey situation you kept him on OpTic and tried to help him but just trying to erase pred is wild to me...

[@holyperspective]

Been with the greenwall for the longest. Seen players come and go and even if it took time there's always been some sort of explanations from the org or players on the roster moves. This pred situation has been shady from the start. You can't compare yourself to chase or other private companies. You're the biggest eSports league in the game and you just released a world champion. The fact that you can't recognize that and the fact that your fans have also developed a bond to him over the past year is insane. You think you can just say it's "personal," and sweep it under the rug and we'll be cool with that? No man, not cool at all

[@DreammakerDev]

I respect HECZ for allowing Pred to get his side of the story out first (even tho I thought he kinda made OpTic look sus unintentionally lol) OpTic handled the situation well compared to how they handled roster changes in the past however them acting like the fans are tripping from speculation when they acted like he was a murderer or something is odd . They didn’t say his name except for Ant which was weird asf 💯💚

[@Lowns_300]

How lmao he literally said everyone tried helping him and was great to him....

[@zaucy_]

​@@Lowns_300 he meant because it was radio silent until Pred did his stream instead of announcing anything right away. Not that Pred made it sound bad by what he said

[@embracingpeace2509]

Yeah they definitely capping. You don't win a champion and kick somebody for a dumb reason. Plus they officially kicked him from optic. They didint even save him a spot. Pred said it himself. He's coming back. I agree with it being sus

[@Z3v_vv]

@@embracingpeace2509get a grip bro. He said he doesn’t have a clear time line when he’s coming back even after major 1 he said he isn’t 100% sure. If optic benches him for 3-4 months that money they can use to pay Huke. It’s not that fucking hard.

[@HunchoCorleone]

@@embracingpeace2509he’s a lying gambling addict let it go lil bro he’s never coming back 🤷🏽‍♂️🤣‼️

[@qstar710]

Still remember the video after merk got dropped back in the day. It’s Been a fun crazy ride to watch optic grow into what it’s become.

[@iMixMaSteR1]

Talk about your sponsorship deal with Fanduel

[@Gnorde]

You know damn well that's why they cant talk about the real reason. They have a sponsor that is a gambling website. That would be VERY bad for business. Which is why they cant be honest about it because that would be super scummy and hurt the brand image. What is crazy is OG must be getting SERIOUS paper from the sponsor to go through all this. Wouldn't be worth the headache if not.

[@iMixMaSteR1]

@ bingo

[@bulllwinkle]

I disagree with Hector. You want to be taken seriously as an org or business, yet you behave like youre high school kids. How can you seriously think that saying absolutely nothing, after dropping one of your top players out of nowhere is the right thing to do. Not only did you not say a single word about it (as an org) but it was forbidden to even ask or speak his name on the watch party. This is ridiculous. You could have just released a statement advising that due to Personal issues, Pred will be replaced by Huke, we will keep you updated. Done. Step out of your little greenwall bubble, you are grown men, act like it.

[@WillyLionHeart]

You sound like the creepy boyfriend who wants to know everything his girl does and stalk her even lol you deserve to know nothing that is not your business get over it kid pathetic actually

[@PhoenlxResaIe]

they think they can do whatever they want, which is true. But I no longer like them

[@SneakyCellCuts]

So fuxking true man. This is dr disrespect ban kinda situation not in terms of the allegation but dropping them without any explanation kind of situation

[@booky8148]

that’s all that needed to be said. nobody in optic including Pred (before this happened) owes anybody an explanation on the situation! just wish him well, and keep supporting all of them. GREENWALL FOR LIFE 💚

[@Gnorde]

so support them but dont ask any questions? got it lol

[@Quintin15]

@@Gnordenever said you couldn’t ask question but stop whining when you don’t get the answer you want you people don’t care about the issues for good reason just want to be in everyone’s business

[@zerofive439]

They addressed it by saying they aren’t addressing it. You don’t need to get into the specifics but you don’t make someone that’s dealing with mental health that’s hoping to get back after major 1 a free agent. Seems like we are only allowed to support and not voice opinions. Ya’ll get mad and say they aren’t part of the greenwall? Those are actually die hard fans. Look at literally every sports team out there.

[@inmemoryofjcapisawesome6119]

It feels like yesterday. 5 years since JCap and I finished up at World Champs 2019 UCLA. Still watch you guys. We played a Great Game didn't we? Absolutely NO Regrets!!!

[@chucklespapi5782]

Scump “it’s not about me”… continues to make it about him

[@Blaze_XIII]

H3CZ owner and leader of a professional organization thinks they can’t say Pred is no longer a part of the roster….bc he wants the individual to say he left and wanted to hang his boys Scump and co out to dry during the watch party by not having a generic PR statement to direct all the BS towards!! I don’t need the details on Pred’s issue, I need the PROFESSIONAL ORG to make a PROFESSIONAL statement.

[@robert1757]

Exactly he said he can't speak on someone elses business but shouldn't he speak on his? We didn't need specifics we just needed something to acknowledge it. They really need a pr person in the org because this podcast coming out attacking those people is just silly

[@kontro11a]

Clickbait ass title. All they told us was they can't tell us. Good shit. Fyi: pred not talking about is is why he won't be back in the league this year. Because now all the rumors are what people will believe instead of being professional and just telling YOUR fans then fucking truth.

[@croczOTK]

Imagine a professional football or basketball team cut a super star player from their championship winning team and then proceeded to pretend like nothing happened for days and then blamed the fans for speculating

[@Quintin15]

We’ll most of the time the star player isn’t a gambling addict who owes money and destroys his life as well as the put the org in a garbage situation for his own screw ups

[@reireiismeme]

@@Quintin15 nmah thats BS its happened heaps of times before in sports and its addressed like an adult every time.

[@emptinessatethewitch]

"i don't want to make it about me" proceeds to make it about him

[@Thane1904]

U caught onto that 😂

[@Trismhmm]

He's a delusional fool. God doesn't give him favor. Satan, of this world, offers him fame and "seeming Good". I hope the dollhouse is clear for everyone to see with these fake ass streamers

[@About36Greekss]

Classic scump

[@diahlect4635]

scump is always the victim

[@richm5719]

He was, and arguably still is, the face of call of duty, and definitely OpTic. He has 10's of thousands of views to his streams at any given time, and all of them wondering about Pred. He tried to distance himself from the situation by nipping it in the bud. Scumps point is valid.

[@prestoiidx]

I will say, the way it went down all suddenly with everybody avoiding talking about him like hes voldemort in the optic camp did make it seem like you guys dont fuck with him anymore and the unfollowing it did seem like there was bad blood that went down, i get that you wanted pred to tell his side first but i think atleast saying you guys are cool with pred and theres no bad blood, would have made this process go so much better. Still do wonder if there is bad blood between him and shotzzy still, cause it seems that way based off how shotzzyy has been speaking about him. thats the only thing hanging me up on this team right now

[@travisjohnson311]

I think pred may have asked him to borrow money and didn’t pay him back or sowmthing

[@falconhoward4032]

Shoutout to them for not burying the lead and starting it off with what we all came for

[@marcuscain9150]

It’s fine to not comment on someone elses business. But not talking about what effects you guys (the roster change) is weird. We literally got confirmation from the match tweet with hukes pic instead of pred

[@jaskiranbedi1]

Yeah they completely dropped the ball professionally and tbh if their reasoning is what they said in the video, then its quite juvenile. A vague statement to announce the change and just "personal issues" would suffice. People would still speculate but that would be OG job done. But... OG will continue to gaslight fans who wanted a simple vague statement

[@whitebreadddd]

Losing mad respect for yall with this one man 😔

[@thescapeartist]

Expecting fans not to speculate after not saying anything for nearly a week is wild.

[@J_Nephilim]

They thought they’re beloved OpTic fan base were different 🥺

[@mango2538]

Shoutout FedEx guy at 26:23

[@-dmm]

something definitely happened. You don't just get cut off like this lmao. Also the way the streams on scump they weren't even saying his name. I hope OpTic isn't trying to scoot around this by essentially making its fans feel stupid. You know for a fact eventually it's gonna come out.

[@francosmith6190]

Dropping & Erasing a player from the Org so quickly is sus as hel...if that is the "real" OpTic and how the "show runs" it's a very shady fckng show.

[@Quintin15]

Or the person is shady and doesn’t give af about the org and the people around him cause clearly pred doesnt

[@Jackie_Fhan]

@@Quintin15 pred cares pred, scump cares scump and hecz cares hecz. Who would have guessed

[@justsa25]

so why is pred a F/A and he is open to competing still lool?? Something does NOT add up here..

[@t.j.canese1814]

Honestly I think the only thing that’s strange is that they unfollowed him… I’m very pro optic and I agree no one’s entitled to an answer about things that aren’t their business and that you didn’t want to be misquoted on things. But you don’t usually unfollow someone you’re showing support and love to. Even if he had gotten dropped due to a skill issue you wouldn’t unfollow…

[@Gnorde]

That whole "its not our business to know" is BS. Don't act like we are the "green wall" and then turn around and say someone who is apart of the very org we are supporting is insta gone in a flash after winning a ring and its crickets. NO, its called gaslighting and its annoying.

[@PhoenlxResaIe]

Addressed nothing. Address this: These questions may not directly address the specifics of press issue. 1. Why is he a free agent? 2. Why were you silent? 3. If it was for a sponsor, why? People > Sponsors 4. Are you waiting for 4th place finishes to consider bringing him back? 5. You owe us nothing but we owe you nothing when your manipulating donations and merch sales, you never forget its the fans that make everything work.

[@siliveliosagato92]

With the line up we have now looking foward to watching the boys carve up!! Big ups to pred for even voicing that he has mental issues hes dealing with, even though he didn't need to. Whatever he's dealing with, pray for a speedy recovery

[@voolian]

if ya’ll buy this COD will really never beat the warehouse worker game allegations

[@MateoOld]

There’s always three sides to every story… Preds side / optics side / the truth

[@94nolo]

if he's still your friend, why did all of OpTic unceremoniously unfollow him? I admire the decency angle you're taking here, but we are left to speculate.

[@sandydebeer3963]

You are good hecz I know you for years but I feel scump is the two face

[@SilverLumberjack]

My biggest question is why did you drop him and not just move him to the bench for the time being?

[@nsrvtqc]

So you wanted them to pay him for a job he wasn’t doing? You must be new to business.

[@vurrucct8625]

@@nsrvtqcyou must be new aswell because there are plenty of players that get benched and have to deal with personal issue and other shit.

[@SilverLumberjack]

@@nsrvtqc I am sure they could have restructured his contract for the time being on the bench.

[@Oddly-SatisfyMe]

@@vurrucct8625this is the year of budget cuts buddy. Name a team in the league with a sub. You’re talking about a time when they all had subs…

[@andrewhucks9579]

@@nsrvtqcand then sold his contract for $1mil to the highest bidder when he returned. He was an optic business asset. That’s business.

[@Positively_well]

GG Hecz. So much respect for the way you run your business.

[@HeskethMatt]

Hecz out the gate pissed here we go

[@ItssGrimm]

You also have to realize a lot these kids saying this stuff they are young immature KIDS who have no sense of boundaries. They are just little gamer kids who feel entitled to everything and have probably never been told the word “no” before.

[@harleyd_dnb]

Why unfollow him and just not do a tweet or something when he left to say thanks for the championship, good luck etc still strange nonetheless

[@BSGRoyalHD]

yet another tinfoil hat, you people are relentless

[@keeganripley3118]

he did not get blacklisted by optic. he resigned from the team so the team removed him from their social media. he did not get blacklisted from the CDL he is not on a team right now and I imagine when he’s ready he will find a team pretty easily

[@Editss213]

why is following someone such a big deal?

[@CallMeKakarot-nu3lb]

@@Editss213it’s not exactly, but the same could be said why would they go out of their way to unfollow him

[@Editss213]

@@CallMeKakarot-nu3lb because he's not on the team?

[@sleepforeverzzz]

Shoutout the Propolis throat spray btw. I got it myself after seeing it on a H3CZ vlog. It actually works!

[@Blaze_XIII]

H3CZ blaming the community for the Pred issue is a manipulation tactic. So very disappointed in OpTic and H3CZ over all of this.

[@Quintin15]

Not manipulative at all stop using words you don’t know what they mean and stop pretending like you guys actually care about what’s going on for good reason just want to be nosey and in everyone’s mess and just care about drama. There isn’t an optic issue there is a pred issue he’s the one the with a problem he’s the one with the addiction

[@wansvans7500]

@@Blaze_XIII ?? what

[@devithius9396]

these news orgs dont realize that people dont go to the movies anymore because of how expensive it is. most people pay for streaming service so they just wait till it comes out on there to watch things.

[@billyhammons2494]

Addressed nothing. Just defended themselves for their lack of transparency.

[@3DiFilms]

cmon bro what's the tea in your life then? Since everyone owes you transparency apparently

[@troy6686]

@@3DiFilmsdeadass people be mad entitled

[@byStuhnz]

Tell us everything about your life then

[@bunszheider376]

Cry some more. You ain't owed any explanation whatsoever. Yet you got one and are still crying!! LOL

[@Avaxity]

how much money is your best friend in debt?? pls tell me, or how about your family?

[@hydrosoulz3075]

I understand they could not go into detail about Pred’s situation but when all the leaks and rumours came out , optic as an org needed to address he was stepping away for personal reasons to end speculation instead of making Pred front 20k+ viewers to explain himself

[@mikeystapleton]

Fans literally pay ur bills

[@beamer2088]

Wait...so they said they couldn't speak on it because they were waiting on pred to say something...yet the were quick to announce the roster move. Why not say "we're here for pred, we hope he gets better and he has a spot waiting for him"...but no, he's a free agent and like completely wiped from OpTic. I get OpTic waiting for pred to say something 100%.

[@forresthalyard6575]

It’s crazy cause if they just told the truth then it wouldn’t be as big a deal as it is.

[@liam200012]

Fr

[@yerrr2792]

Don’t come and call people names because you blackballed the kid and had radio silence for the last week. You couldn’t come out and say he’s dealing with something? Whats the point of unfollowing the guy and banning his name in chats?

[@kobe6363]

Boze saying “I could do that” when he hasn’t competed in the CDL era is mind blowing 💀

[@topnotchkeith8353]

he also called optic fans random ppl, he dont fw the fans lmao

[@nuggetboyyy397]

Prayers for pred ! Yall are the greatest example on how to deal with situations like this! Green WALL FOR LIFE! 💚✅

[@adderall7104]

Prime gaslighting bruvs just be honest about what happened it don’t need to be weird

[@AdamIsmail905]

41:30 they’re positive because they have the soccer (football) fan mindset, always supportive of their team no matter their result. The pride is in the loyalty.

[@About36Greekss]

Didn’t really address anything. You don’t have to go into detail about preds personal issues but you can say why you dropped him completely and erased him from basically everything so quickly

[@GamingWithHerbo]

then go watch preds video on pred's channel

[@youngjanski8237]

I think you guys in optic have to understand that us fan are wanting to know the same way as Seth would want to know if Jalen hurts was dropped with no context. Can’t put it in the fans to much especially with the screenshots that people have came out with regarding the situation.

[@Messi46359]

Complete bs , there’s more they are hiding. But we bow

[@Slayer-tv8ub]

You act like you gave any statement at all even if it was a “Thank You Pred” and tell us it’s personal like you did Huke,Dashy,Ghosty,Clayster. At the end of the day if you are a die hard fan you are going to be concerned and will want some sort of statement but I guess when your favorite team drops a player you truly care about without a single statement you should automatically assume oh it’s personal and move on. Good logic guys 👍

[@ShaveItDown]

Hecz is the 🐐 , but I disagree with his logic here. All this insanity could have been avoided with a simple official statement like: “ Pred is dealing with personal matters and he is no longer part of the OpTic organization. We love and support Pred and wish him the best with what he’s dealing with. Any additional details are not our business. Huke the Nuke is back. Ok love you greenwall, bye”. That’s all that needed to be said. It makes it APPEAR that there are missing pieces here but I don’t care. Not my business, I love Huke so let’s get it.

[@clivemagowan8822]

Hitch rocking the Bournemouth jersey nice. Never doubted you guys over the whole Pred situation. Anyone with half a heart and a brain could tell why you weren’t saying anything. Hope pred gets better soon and hope Huke and the boys can continue the run. Merry Christmas to all the OpTic boys 🎅

[@RevolutMe]

This story makes no sense. This is honestly a case for Sherlock Holmes.

[@DeeVect]

Makes no sense because it aint for you to figure out, plain and simple.

[@FpsSundayGaming]

You do the same to pro athletes......... ​@@DeeVect You're in the spotlight that's what comes with it how you gonna act like a professional organization hahaha crazyyy

[@Shortstahp]

Its because drugs are involved and they are able to save face by not bringing it up

[@brownshit1]

Some of you need to take a good hard look at yourselves.

[@zyhru]

😂😂

[@drorig9034]

And what is the fu..ing reason not to say good bye ? I never ever saw a org which dropping a player not saying "good bye , wish u all the best"

[@garbear22]

this is such bs LMFAO, he already plans to come back after major 1?! and he says he is a free agent?! something happened obviously, he got cut from team and they swept it under the rug to save everyone’s face, who takes a break for mental health but already plans to be back after major 1. im sorry im not buying any of it.

[@gyalchester4781]

CoD fans are legitimately mentally ill lol. you guys are nuts

[@sinfulhawk4210]

We need OpTic Tumors on a podcast now 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@TMRWmourning]

If it's all love and they are constantly checking up on him, why did they completely cut ties with him on everything? Twitter, pics for brand ads, etc. Very fishy business going on but I'm not gonna draw any unnecessary conclusions. Just an odd one here. It's seems almost like they completely erased his digital footprint with ties with optic

[@SliPsHoTiFc]

Hecz people are curious. Stop being a child. Optic has routinely done things a certain way, this was different, this was unusual. Accept that and stop treating the situation as if the scene can't ask questions and be annoyed. The news channels you speak so ill about are the only resource we have to try and understand the unknown that has been presented with us as fans of call of duty and optic. You act like news channels shouldn't speculate and can't question things. You are acting weird and people are calling it out. Actions speak louder than words and your actions bring about questions. I would remind you of the genuine reasons to be curious of things. We hold a high regard to you, optic and the call of duty players. It's absolutely odd that nobody replied to him, it's odd that nothing has been said, it's odd he was dropped instead of benched and it's been an unfollowing chain reaction. Especially if this was only about health issues. It's odd for him to be a free agent after the money you likely spent on him. It's fine if you want to say nothing about it until pred does, everybody respects that. You can also acknowledge that this is weird. That is okay. But it brings questions and speculations that you shouldn't put much effort into responding too because they are valid and you can't answer.