Admiral Spruance - The Forging of a Quiet but Deadly Leader

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Today we take a look at the career of Admiral Raymond Spruance, from his birth to when he took a lead role in the Battle of Midway.
Sources:
The Quiet Warrior: a biography of Admiral Raymond A. Spruance - Buell, Thomas B.
Admiral Raymond A. Spruance, USN; A Study In Command - Admiral E. P. Forestel
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@Drachinifel
@Drachinifel Ай бұрын
Pinned post for Q&A :)
@WarrantOfficerWill22
@WarrantOfficerWill22 Ай бұрын
Did anyone else aside from Japan have any I-400 sized submarine Projects during the time period this channel covers? I’m aware of the Soviet P-2 (a very ambitious predecessor to the Zulu V) but did the US or Germany or anyone else have any major plans for very large Diesel Electric submarines? And If not, what do you think either the USSR or the US could have done on a hull of around the same tonnage with ‘end of channel period’ tech? During the Cold War the US and USSR never built any diesel boat that even approached half that tonnage.
@darrenblake2362
@darrenblake2362 Ай бұрын
Could the IjN have operated jets from there carrier fleet that existed would they have /or where they developing carriers that could?
@gunnerholley4872
@gunnerholley4872 Ай бұрын
I’ve recently read that Japanese bombs, like American torpedoes, had quite a problem with reliability. Is there any other nations who had experienced really bad reliability problems / did rates?
@danielregnard882
@danielregnard882 Ай бұрын
I assume you have heard of the IJN Kaneda design for a behemoth 500,000 battleship with over 50 16inch guns. Would this have been physically possible to build? And if the IJN had this vessel in 1941 (magically without having other historical vessels construction cancelled because of resource conflicts) would it have been able to play any sort of role at all in the Pacific campaign? (At least beyond being a giant torpedo magnet)
@admDanRyan
@admDanRyan Ай бұрын
During the Battle of Manila Bay during the Spanish-American War, why was the gunnery so poor? I'm assuming that there was a lack of training but are there more factors?
@Blockio1999
@Blockio1999 Ай бұрын
Responding to news of Pearl Harbor with "Thank you, you know what to do" is a special kind of power move
@EShirako
@EShirako Ай бұрын
A slightly EPIC power move...wow. Because they, indeed, DID know what to do!
@stevenrobinson2381
@stevenrobinson2381 Ай бұрын
Command 101.
@ph89787
@ph89787 Ай бұрын
Say what you will about Admiral Halsey. But I believe recommending Spruance to Nimitz as Task Force 16's CO for Midway was his best one in the war.
@d.olivergutierrez8690
@d.olivergutierrez8690 Ай бұрын
I will take Spruance over that senile bull every time, Spruance was the ideal admiral on leyte gulf, he would have stayed on mission and not send half the available task force after a so obvious decoy.
@EpicRenegade777
@EpicRenegade777 Ай бұрын
Halsey was a great commander, but with how things do sometimes you get unlucky, what could be seen as a Bold move if you succeed can be seen as reckless if you happen to fail, there is sadly some luck that stopped some commanders from getting the praise they deserve.
@Subpac_ww2
@Subpac_ww2 Ай бұрын
Spruance was, by far, the better commander. Analytical. Calm. Collected. Never put ego above mission. Unlike Halsey. Who did that often.
@timothyhouse1622
@timothyhouse1622 Ай бұрын
@@d.olivergutierrez8690 it was an obvious decoy ONLY to those of us viewing it with the lenses of hindsight. It was NOT so obvious then. UP to that point the primary weapon of the Japanese Navy was the carrier. Also, the intelligence report that the Japanese lost so many pilots and planes at the Battle of the Philippine Sea was just too good to be true. To Halsey, the main Japanese fleet was NORTH and threatening that flank. Besides, the Japanese had already lost Musashi and got a bloody nose, their last course of action was away from Leyte. It is funny that Halsey gets so much grief for chasing down the Japanese carriers but Kinkaid, commander of 7th fleet, isn't given any for moving his battleships south chasing the Japanese SOUTHERN force.
@tombogan03884
@tombogan03884 Ай бұрын
@@EpicRenegade777 Halsey was a Destroyer commander, in the mold of Cochrane, or Pellew. Spruance, like Nelson, did well in destroyers, but he was adaptable enough for other tasks as well.
@williamcostigan91
@williamcostigan91 Ай бұрын
Got a good chuckle out of his very thorough solo inspection of his Battleship. I bet his men loved him for that bit of cheekiness.
@mechakid
@mechakid Ай бұрын
It was TECHNICALLY an inspection
@patrickocampo494
@patrickocampo494 Ай бұрын
@@mechakid Given that he was an avid hiker I'll bet it didn't take him very long.
@user-mp3eq6ir5b
@user-mp3eq6ir5b Ай бұрын
Imagine your Admiral jogging a full circuit around his Flagship.
@fabianzimmermann5495
@fabianzimmermann5495 Ай бұрын
Love these videos about the lives of US admirals. They're all so interesting people with interesting careers. I really hope Frank Jack Fletcher is on the list of admirals you will make videos about. He definitely deserves some spotlight.
@Ricky40369
@Ricky40369 Ай бұрын
I totally agree. I believe he was much underappreciated.
@charleslarrivee2908
@charleslarrivee2908 Ай бұрын
I was literally just going to say something along those lines.
@kennethdeanmiller7324
@kennethdeanmiller7324 Ай бұрын
Yes, I agree! Fletcher & Spruance together made Midway happen the way it happened! I seriously doubt that if Halsey had remained in charge that the USA would have achieved the major victory that it achieved at Midway! However, also, the Doolittle Raid on the Japanese Home Islands, I believe, Led to the response from the Japanese with them trying to quickly take Midway Island. Cuz they thought that if they took Midway, they could force a quick surrender from the USA. Not realizing that the USA was going all out, and the bombing of Pearl Harbor had sent America into a rage that the world had seldom seen! And the USA',s rage would envelope the entire nation & it would take numerous years to cool down.
@spudskie3907
@spudskie3907 Ай бұрын
I was going to post the same thing. Fletcher has been criminally under appreciated by historians. He fought in 3 of the 5 carrier battles of WWII and didn’t lose.
@EliteF22
@EliteF22 Ай бұрын
It's terrible what they did to Fletcher.
@johnfleet235
@johnfleet235 Ай бұрын
I have studied Admiral Spruance for years. It is not often talked about, but I have always thought Spruance was lucky to have the first 6 months of the war commanding the cruisers/destroyers screening Enterprise. He was able to be learn how to be a wartime Admiral, without being in the spotlight.
@ewok40k
@ewok40k Ай бұрын
I was not aware Nimitz gave those secret , by spoken word only, orders. This puts Spruance truly into another light at Midway. He was actually going very risky considering his main objective was actually force preservation. Considering both Enterprise and Hornet were invaluable for the rest of the time before Essex class started coming into service, I completely understand Nimitz's way of thinking.
@johnhallett5846
@johnhallett5846 Ай бұрын
Nimitz understood That Midway was NOT REALLY THAT IMPORTANT. Good to have but not critical. Keeping his fleet intact if no chance to ambush the Japanese was simply the smart play
@wolftamer5463
@wolftamer5463 Ай бұрын
@@johnhallett5846Also that Midway would be comparatively easy to retake since it would stretch the Japanese supply lines while the Americans could just hit it with land based bombers from Hawaii and use submarines on transports.
@SoloRenegade
@SoloRenegade Ай бұрын
correct, Midway was all about taking out the Japanese carriers, not about actually defending Midway itself, which Japan had no serious means of holding onto anyways.
@jimstanga6390
@jimstanga6390 Ай бұрын
@@SoloRenegadeThe Japanese felt the same way. It would be desirable to have Midway as a base, but the real value was its proximity to Hawaii and the American tactical response, which afforded an opportunity engage the American Carriers in a decisive engagement.
@workingguy6666
@workingguy6666 29 күн бұрын
Does anyone else suspect that some form of intelligence KNEW (strongly suspected) that the Japanese were on the move to Hawaii, and that this is why the cruiser, battleships and destroyers carried on to the operating area? Seems like the separation was the stance for a fight that didn't happen. The separated force of non-carriers were the seekers (or 'bait') - whatever it took to engage the Japanese away from Pearl. Withe the admitted numbers of ultra-secret by-word-of-mouth intel and orders of this era, and Halsey's command to General Quarters upon the separation, it seems to be a strong possibility.
@grahamstrouse1165
@grahamstrouse1165 Ай бұрын
You’re commitment to putting out professional quality, exquisitely researched content week after week after week is kinda amazing, Drach.
@theleva7
@theleva7 Ай бұрын
27:00 "And that's what you're going to command, officer, the air station with the best foundatuions in all of the Carribean" - the bright mind that decided to build a -castle- naval air station on a swamp
@blshouse
@blshouse Ай бұрын
"... So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up."
@notshapedforsportivetricks2912
@notshapedforsportivetricks2912 Ай бұрын
​@@blshouse I bet that all the other Admirals said you were daft to build an airstation on a swamp, but you built it anyway. Just to show 'em.
@species3167
@species3167 Ай бұрын
@@blshouse AD&D Castle Builders Guide? NICE
@martystrasinger3801
@martystrasinger3801 29 күн бұрын
And no singing!
@johnfowler8330
@johnfowler8330 Ай бұрын
I love the fact that you mentioned his use of maneuvering boards at the end of the video. As a former US Navy CIC crewmember, we used maneuvering boards extensively 👍 Yet another excellent video, Sir. Thank you.
@rackstraw
@rackstraw Ай бұрын
Because shiphandling by eye is impressive...until you f**k it up. The Maneuvering Board allows you to come up with a solution to get it right the first time. An outstanding old analog tool. 🙂
@RetiredSailor60
@RetiredSailor60 Ай бұрын
I am a retired OS1. Taught OS A School twice at Dam Neck in Virginia Beach.
@Wolfeson28
@Wolfeson28 Ай бұрын
Definitely an admiral I'm interested to learn more about. Nothing flashy or flamboyant about him, but just a calm quiet competence with clear-headed assessment of the situation at hand. He's not the sort of commander that people make action movies about, and his quiet nature did lead to him being a bit overshadowed at times, but I'd consider him a model of effective leadership.
@michaeldebellis4202
@michaeldebellis4202 Ай бұрын
Agree. He’s always been one of my heroes. Unlike other commanders, he went out of his way to avoid the press and publicity and just focused on doing his job over personal glory.
@henrivanbemmel
@henrivanbemmel Ай бұрын
Yes, indeed. Effective leadership avoids crises of your own making.
@dmacarthur5356
@dmacarthur5356 Ай бұрын
"The Quiet Warrior" by Thomas Buell is an excellent read about Adm. Spruance
@michaeldebellis4202
@michaeldebellis4202 Ай бұрын
@@dmacarthur5356 I agree, it's a great book.
@geradkavanagh8240
@geradkavanagh8240 Ай бұрын
Probably should be a series about him. A movie wouldn't be long enough to develop his character.
@JoshuaSigloch
@JoshuaSigloch Ай бұрын
Talk about a compliment from your father in law. "You're too honest and upstanding an individual to work in business".
@darkgalaxy5548
@darkgalaxy5548 Ай бұрын
Says alot for capitalism
@ph89787
@ph89787 Ай бұрын
Also, for anyone who wants to research Spruance further, Check out his Biography, "The Quiet Warrior." By Thomas B Buell.
@jh93989
@jh93989 Ай бұрын
Agreed, found a copy at a Goodwill of all places and its been a great read.
@ph89787
@ph89787 Ай бұрын
@@jh93989 I got the audiobook.
@JackNiles-hc8yz
@JackNiles-hc8yz 7 күн бұрын
Buell's bio on Ernest King is even better.
@bagoquarks
@bagoquarks Ай бұрын
Thank you! I was not aware: A. how early in their careers Spruance and Halsey had started operating together; B. how Spruance had to maneuver to get a sea command out of Pearl Harbor vs. being a paper pusher for King at the outbreak of WW2. Always learning with Drach!
@Redlin5
@Redlin5 Ай бұрын
One of the most important admirals to ever defend my continent, thank you from Canada Spruance! I always held you in high esteem when I first learned World War naval history.
@johnbeauvais3159
@johnbeauvais3159 Ай бұрын
Using an out of date officer device and basically waiting for someone to say something about it is peak E-4 behavior
@johngregory4801
@johngregory4801 Ай бұрын
The E4 Mafia doesn't exist. Really! 😂😂😂
@bandit6272
@bandit6272 Ай бұрын
E-4 mafia, assemble!!! Sham like you've never shammed before!!!
@jefferyindorf699
@jefferyindorf699 Ай бұрын
​@johngregory4801 As a former E-4, I can neither confirm or deny the existence of the E-4 mafia. 😊
@DTinkerer
@DTinkerer Ай бұрын
E4?
@dougjb7848
@dougjb7848 Ай бұрын
@@jefferyindorf699 And even that cannot be confirmed.
@animal16365
@animal16365 Ай бұрын
Dangnabit. I was so enthralled in this video and it had to end when things were getting very interesting.
@stamasd8500
@stamasd8500 Ай бұрын
What a cliffhanger. Who the hell can anticipate what happens next. :)
@stephenkayser3147
@stephenkayser3147 Ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly.
@spaceskipster4412
@spaceskipster4412 Ай бұрын
Dah, Dah, Dah…! And in the next thrilling episode… 💥🇺🇸 🗾 🤫
@bbbabrock
@bbbabrock Ай бұрын
Same here . Tho we should of known. It says right in the thumbnail "From birth to Midway".
@santiago5388
@santiago5388 Ай бұрын
I haven't commented in a long time. But thanks a lot for the video, really like the detail and information that you put into every video.
@b.thomas8926
@b.thomas8926 Ай бұрын
I second that. =)
@user-zq4zi3dy3c
@user-zq4zi3dy3c Ай бұрын
Thank you for your service! I served on a Spruance class destroyer the USS Fife DD991 from 1985 to 1990.
@RetiredSailor60
@RetiredSailor60 Ай бұрын
USS Kinkaid DD 965 1987-89
@rafaelj.benero4880
@rafaelj.benero4880 Ай бұрын
Thank you for your service!...
@georgelite2494
@georgelite2494 29 күн бұрын
@retiredsailor60 My first ship! 1997 before heading off to FC A school. Never got to deploy on the old Kinky-D (coed ship by the time it came out of Long Beach with the Mk41 VLS upgrade), but I’ll always have fond memories of my time there.
@RetiredSailor60
@RetiredSailor60 28 күн бұрын
@@georgelite2494 I never deployed on her either. 17 of my 24 months onboard were in the shipyard
@johnwalters1341
@johnwalters1341 26 күн бұрын
I was your friendly PACE instructor on Fife in 1985.
@raymondtonns2521
@raymondtonns2521 Ай бұрын
thank you for this biography. may men of his character and verve be with us and all free people.
@timwerner7771
@timwerner7771 Ай бұрын
DRach;s VERY dry humor just kills me. @10:20 I have to pause and laugh so hard my eyes water. So great.
@martinswiney2192
@martinswiney2192 Ай бұрын
Drach had me laughing at 1:10 by mentioning Indianapolis and intellectual scene in the same sentence. 😂
@TheIndianalain
@TheIndianalain Ай бұрын
I always considered Ray Spruance one of the greatest US commanders of all times, and unjustely rather unknown to the public. Your documentary really matches my expectations! Detailed, greatly narrated with the occasional touch of humour (the dummy torpedoes affair!), and showing not only a very intelligent and competent officer, but also a caring and wise husband and father. Can't wait for the next episode(s).
@mencken8
@mencken8 Ай бұрын
One of my two favorite USN admirals. Spruance’s bust is in the Naval War College for a reason.
@Everywhere2
@Everywhere2 Ай бұрын
You've fascinated me with things I'm not interested in - or wasn't. Now? I'm a drachaddict.
@mrz80
@mrz80 Ай бұрын
Eagerly awaiting part two of this! I've always held Spruance in very high esteem.
@sfs2040
@sfs2040 Ай бұрын
Halsey getting 5 stars and Spruence not is one of the great injustices of the WWII US Navy
@fredsafarowic3149
@fredsafarowic3149 Ай бұрын
You can thank Carl Vinson for that abomination.
@JackNiles-hc8yz
@JackNiles-hc8yz 7 күн бұрын
Bradley getting 5 stars because he was MacArthur's boss is equally as bad, if not worse.
@jdrobertson42
@jdrobertson42 Ай бұрын
Little did the navy realize that their practice torpedoes were as dangerous, if not more so, than their real torpedoes.
@notshapedforsportivetricks2912
@notshapedforsportivetricks2912 Ай бұрын
To be fair, they probably weren't Mk 14s.
@jophussaurus2450
@jophussaurus2450 Ай бұрын
Everyone talks so badly about the US navy but why is their combat record so good? I honestly don’t get it, maybe I’m not in touch with the jokes
@matthewjohnson4800
@matthewjohnson4800 Ай бұрын
​@@jophussaurus2450As an organization, the US Navy is just fine. But even they have the occasional screw up due to total incompetence. The mk 14 torpedo is one prime example. Drach has a video on it if you want to know more.
@JoshuaTootell
@JoshuaTootell Ай бұрын
The USN is an amazing force ​@jophussaurus2450 The people who supplied some of their weapons is a different story. Look into the MK14 torpedo.
@adambebb99
@adambebb99 Ай бұрын
@@jophussaurus2450 the Mk 14 is the joke
@danaohlson3316
@danaohlson3316 Ай бұрын
Most excellent Drach. Looking forward to the second part.
@w.osterberg9385
@w.osterberg9385 Ай бұрын
Me too!
@user-bh1lk9rj7j
@user-bh1lk9rj7j Ай бұрын
Thanks for a very informative and occasionally humorous history of admiral Spruance rise in the American navy.
@genebohannon8820
@genebohannon8820 Ай бұрын
For a simple maintenance ship the USS Vestal sure does show her prow identity quite often. Good girl.
@m.r.donovan8743
@m.r.donovan8743 18 күн бұрын
If a nation is very fortunate, a man like Raymond Spruance comes along once about every hundred years or so. The United States was doubly lucky to have Chester Nimitiz come along at the same time. If you count ALL of their mistakes throughout the entire Pacific war, you can do it on one hand... with fingers left over. Thanks Drach for reminding the world of this great leader.
@stargazer5784
@stargazer5784 Ай бұрын
Drach old boy... Having followed the growth and development of your channel for a number of years, I can state with confidence that of all of the different kinds of videos that you produce (ship guides, dry docks, battle scenarios, etc.), your biographies of the officers and sailors who've served throughout history are the best. Although obviously intended to be serious in content and historically accurate, your sense of humor makes them fun to listen to, and your insights into the subject's quirks of personality adds to the enjoyment. Your 'Voyage of the Damned' and several other story telling videos (the great dane video, cats as ship's mascot video, etc.) are also outstanding and well produced. Thx.
@CaptainKirk1963
@CaptainKirk1963 Ай бұрын
I did not know Spruance was Born in Baltimore. Samuel E Morris said he was sharp as a razor under pressure. The 76 Movie Midway is my favorite Movie, it nails him and Halsey,great casting. Halsey was from Elizabeth NJ. And played on a. Navy football team that went 0 and 10. Our anti aircraft guns became lethal as hell. The 40 mm Bofars fire control and the proximity shells in 43.
@ktinsley4579
@ktinsley4579 Ай бұрын
Late night listening is appreciated. From vegas with love.
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen Ай бұрын
Patrolling The Mojawe almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
@The_cestelin_Holland
@The_cestelin_Holland Ай бұрын
​@@PalleRasmussen I just knew someone was going to make that joke
@PalleRasmussen
@PalleRasmussen Ай бұрын
@@The_cestelin_Holland you have to. It is almost as inevitable as arrows to the knee.
@ktinsley4579
@ktinsley4579 Ай бұрын
Where is the rest bro?
@arunta5
@arunta5 Ай бұрын
Spruance was a destroyer flotilla commander but Chester Nimitz saw qualities of leadership in him and was totally vindicated. I read somewhere that he was a hypochondriac but that did not stop him. He was in charge of the three carriers at the Battle of Midway the initial turning point of the Pacific Naval Campaign.
@Robin35758
@Robin35758 Ай бұрын
I believe that Spruance commanded the Enterprise and the Hornet and that Fletcher commanded the Yorktown.
@arunta5
@arunta5 Ай бұрын
@@Robin35758 Yes I believe Nimintz placed him in overall command of the US Forces for that battle.
@ErikHare
@ErikHare Ай бұрын
If you come to San Francisco I can take you to the grave of Admiral Spruance. It's very close to me in San Bruno. He is buried next to Admiral Nimitz
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 Ай бұрын
I had no idea. Heck, I’d do that in a hot minute if I wasn’t disabled.
@antoninuspius1747
@antoninuspius1747 Ай бұрын
His career highlights an important aspect of career advancement and good advice for the younger viewers out there. Get exposed to a wide variety of aspects on how a company works. I spent 30 years in engineering advancing up the chain in an aerospace company. Early/Mid-career I was asked to become a purchasing liasson. My initial reaction was "Why the heck do I want to do that?". But had a great boss who told me getting exposed to a variety of company OPs was extremely valuable and recommended I do it. Well, kind of told me to do it. I did it for a year and it WAS absolutely invaluable. Did a similar rotation through QA and it was just as valuable. The US armed forces do that well. In fact, if you're NOT moved around into positions you may not think useful, your career is stalled and they don't think you're top notch.
@hookalakah
@hookalakah Ай бұрын
Thank God we had Admiral Spruance.
@douglasharley2440
@douglasharley2440 Ай бұрын
i absolutely *love* these in-depth looks at these ww2 naval figures, much thanks! lol, i listened to a whole mob of 'em over the past two weeks while on vacation, driving 5500 miles to 8 different national parks. pre-download ftw! ✌😎
@Squirrelmugger
@Squirrelmugger Ай бұрын
When Time tried to portray him as the hard driving hard fighting workaholic admiral, his chief of staff Charles Moore thought that was so funny that he had to replace the copy Spruance had thrown away so he could show it to every sailor that happened to step into flag country on the Indianapolis and have a big laugh at the thought of Spruance being a workaholic.
@timwerner7771
@timwerner7771 Ай бұрын
RE: Uss Iowa.."Her job was to wander up and down the east coast of the United States" Ha!
@kennethdeanmiller7324
@kennethdeanmiller7324 Ай бұрын
Yeah, I actually thought we would get a video from Drach on Fletcher before we got one on Spruance but I guess I was wrong. Not disappointed cuz he's probably going by requests & I believe Spruance deserves recognition as well. But the things I've heard about Fletcher on this channel I'm fairly certain Drach thinks that Fletcher has gotten a bad reputation from some of the people in the US Navy ie: Turner blaming everyone he could instead of taking responsibility himself. Which actually would have made people think more highly of him imho. However, Fletcher was under orders to not risk his carriers unless he knew he could deal the enemy significant loses. And having his carriers at Guadal Canal for extended periods was a major unnecessary risk. Especially considering how vulnerable carriers and their escorts are during the night hours and if they are guarding a certain land mass they are easier to find. And with the Japanese having the type 93 torpedo in their arsenal that vulnerability was even more than realized at the time. And presence of the carriers would not have stopped the Japanese force that sank the numerous American cruisers during the first Naval Battle of Guadal Canal. The American Cruisers & Destroyers that night made many mistakes. And paid dearly for it. And the fact that going to action stations meant a game of musical chairs while the Japanese used those precious few minutes to tear their ships apart was also a hard learned lesson in futility. The US Navy would have to enact a lot of changes to finally be ready when the Japanese came calling again. And would also have to realize the Japanese had some very deadly torpedoes.😢
@robertf3479
@robertf3479 Ай бұрын
Congratulations on topping 500k subscribers Drach. Let me dip my oar into the argument on Spruance being a more capable Fleet Commander than Halsey. After the Battle of Midway, Spruance took flak from Admirals and "Armchair Commanders" who felt that withdrawing to the East and out of reach of possible Japanese reprisal was the wrong thing to do. Carrier buffs point out that in Enterprise and Hornet, even with depleted airgroups Spruance would be "unbeatable" and could destroy the remainder of the Japanese fleet at will, an argument that continues even today. A Surface Warfare commander himself (using today's terminology) Spruance foresaw that continuing to the West through the night after the carrier action might very easily result in the two irreplaceable surviving USN carriers with only cruisers and destroyers as backup finding themselves under the guns of the Japanese Heavy Cruiser Bombardment Group and possibly even fast battleships. Enterprise and Hornet would very quickly find themselves the focus of heavy gunfire that neither could survive.
@mikespangler98
@mikespangler98 Ай бұрын
Even more so since Nagumo was hoping for a nighttime gun and torpedo fight.
@SS-ec2tu
@SS-ec2tu Ай бұрын
Also remember the Japanese submarine threat.
@warrenjones744
@warrenjones744 Ай бұрын
Oh man is this good stuff Drach...More please
@w.osterberg9385
@w.osterberg9385 Ай бұрын
I agree, would love a part 2 with his wartime career and life after the war
@nathangillispie51
@nathangillispie51 Ай бұрын
Great choice for a video Drach
@lloydknighten5071
@lloydknighten5071 Ай бұрын
Drachinifel, this "Storytime With Uncle Drach" on Admiral Spruance was A1! I enjoy your admiral biographies. I hope you will do one of my favorite US admiral; William "Bull" Halsey.
@johnmoore8599
@johnmoore8599 Ай бұрын
Ended on a cliffhanger! Nice touch! Thanks for telling us about Spruance and his life! He seemed to have an open mind.
@TomFynn
@TomFynn Ай бұрын
And later those sailors on the lower yardarms would tell stories how a young Admiral Spruance had once vomited on them from above.
@stephenmcguire7801
@stephenmcguire7801 Ай бұрын
Yes, it puts a different spin on kicking down to get ahead.
@stuweiss-zi9rc
@stuweiss-zi9rc Ай бұрын
Can’t wait for the next installment! Lots of insights, reminds me of some of the discussions in Unauthorized History of the Pacific War with Seth and Bill.
@andrewgraham6006
@andrewgraham6006 Ай бұрын
These videos on notable admirals are without question some of the best material you have produced thus far ( up there with the 3 Jutland videos ) They give incredible insight into the lives these men led and put into context some off their actions both good and bad , it also allows for some less notable actions / events to be covered in a manner upon which they’re normally glossed over . Have you ever considered delving into the traditions of the various navy’s of the world as I can see such content having the same effects of allowing for some truly interesting but small aspects to be discussed .
@PupthePitbull
@PupthePitbull Ай бұрын
Congrats on 500k subs Drach
@huskergator9479
@huskergator9479 Ай бұрын
Drach i thoroughly enjoy these views into the important people in WW2. I appreciate the large amount of work it takes for your viewers to feel like they know these guys when we’re done watching. Thank you so much. Love and respect from the Great Plains.
@WilliamSmith-zk4tj
@WilliamSmith-zk4tj Ай бұрын
The holiday incident it must have been something interesting for him to call that holiday I'm pretty sure of it I think the runaround was something the crew needed I would love to have known that little scenario and story
@Thoofdecay
@Thoofdecay Ай бұрын
Fascinating video! Although I am certain all of human warfare has shared the same trait, it is so fascinating how the minute details of ww2 are preserved to history: talk back to ones captain here, attend a dinner there, another person catches a fever there. And all of a sudden some of the wars major personal decisions are slightly changed. Often to a great change in outcome!
@-r-495
@-r-495 Ай бұрын
I find these character profiles very interesting and a logical continuation from your excellent description of the assets and rules of the big gun game.
@-r-495
@-r-495 Ай бұрын
I‘d probably have a questionable temper in an environment of lead paint fumes..
@markhaga8408
@markhaga8408 18 күн бұрын
"Thank you. You know what to do" is British levels of stoicism
@markstott6689
@markstott6689 Ай бұрын
You know that you have watched a great video, when at the end, you feel great disappointment that it's over. 😊❤😊
@EllieMaes-Grandad
@EllieMaes-Grandad Ай бұрын
Spruance is mentioned in the movie "Hunt for Red October" in that Marko Ramius states that he has read Jack Ryan's book on the admiral. In the novel itself, however, Jack is said to be still writing the book at that time. In the most recent Clancy book, "Act of Defiance" (2024), it receives another [incorrect] mention. Not the end of the world, but I offer this as an interesting quirk . . .
@vollelektrolysierer5773
@vollelektrolysierer5773 Ай бұрын
Ryan wrote a book on Halsey which Ramius dismisses as "Your conclusions were all wrong, Halsey was a fool.", proably on Leyte Gukf
@sandrodunatov485
@sandrodunatov485 Ай бұрын
Great video about not-so-often remembered minutiae about such a great Admiral.
@66Grudge
@66Grudge Ай бұрын
Having served on a Spruance class Destroyer, I found this an excellant video. Bravo Zulu!
@admiraltiberius1989
@admiraltiberius1989 Ай бұрын
Spruance did screw up during Hailstone, he almost cost the US Navy one or two brand-new Fast battleships. But thats still nothing compared to what Halsey did. For 42 and for most of 43, Halsey was a better Admiral, better suited for the brawling kind of fights the Navy was involved in. But by 44 Spruance and superior intellectual and patience were perfect for how the war was going.
@peterkoch3777
@peterkoch3777 Ай бұрын
Wasn't Halsey very sick when Spruance got his chance to show his qualities in 44?
@admiraltiberius1989
@admiraltiberius1989 Ай бұрын
@peterkoch3777 no he was on the beach as it was Spruances turn to take command.
@VersusARCH
@VersusARCH Ай бұрын
​@@peterkoch3777That was at Midway at 1942.
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 Ай бұрын
25:03 USS Mississippi was gorgeous!
@NormanSilv
@NormanSilv Ай бұрын
Another "Old salt" Jesse Orendorff. He led the trap in the Surigao Straits with a fleet of 40+ year old warships. My uncle was the Fire Control Officer on the USS Tennessee.
@peterbrazier7107
@peterbrazier7107 Ай бұрын
Admiral Spruance didn't smoke, yet in the 1976 film Midway Glenn Ford was smoking a Cigar in the bridge of the USS Enterprise.
@VersusARCH
@VersusARCH Ай бұрын
This programme had been brought to you by British-American Tobacco...
@genericpersonx333
@genericpersonx333 Ай бұрын
Not that I am saying you are wrong, but I am curious where you heard he was not a smoker such that it would be inappropriate for him to have a cigar. I mainly ask because I know people who didn't smoke habitually, but rather treated it as a special treat to be indulged on rare occasion, sometimes just a handful of times a year. Indeed, I knew a fellow who only smoked the one or two cigars gifted to him by a specific friend; otherwise he never touched the stuff.
@Vito_Tuxedo
@Vito_Tuxedo Ай бұрын
@@genericpersonx333 - Indeed, the occasional use of tobacco as a celebratory or bonding ritual has a long history, and is something that is completely beyond the comprehension of those who have been programmed to adopt a knee-jerk attitude of deprecation and condemnation that insists it can only ever be "a filthy habit". In fact, a habit is precisely what it is NOT; that is why it has value and meaning.
@genericpersonx333
@genericpersonx333 Ай бұрын
@@Vito_Tuxedo Indeed!
@TheBasil36
@TheBasil36 Ай бұрын
No, but it's a slippery slope to becoming a habit. Hence the standard reaction of "your all in or all out." I'd love to casually smoke a cigar but I'm not dealing with quitting smoking again.
@jannarkiewicz633
@jannarkiewicz633 Ай бұрын
Cripes Drach... You ended with a cliff hanger... You're killing us.
@steeltrap3800
@steeltrap3800 Ай бұрын
Very pleased to see this. Spruance strikes me as an outstanding senior officer often overlooked other than Midway, where sometimes he's criticised anyway (and entirely unjustifiably IMO), but of course that's just my view.
@Historyguy-xu5ht
@Historyguy-xu5ht Ай бұрын
Whoop whoop! We are so back baby!
@daduck8792
@daduck8792 Ай бұрын
Duck's are people too
@dreddfan01
@dreddfan01 Ай бұрын
30:09 a rare photo of the battleship crosshair in action.
@user-sq4yl5nf1d
@user-sq4yl5nf1d Ай бұрын
Good video. Thanks Drach.
@thcdreams654
@thcdreams654 Ай бұрын
Great content. Thank you. Hope all is well with you.
@NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek
@NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek Ай бұрын
Brilliant Video, Illustrating that Spruance was Far More Than Just a Cruiser Admiral!!!
@gjf984
@gjf984 29 күн бұрын
Very fine job with this. For me, this posting has filled out my understanding of Spruance's career ascent and of his oersonal life.
@drpepperr
@drpepperr Ай бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this. Thank you.
@ianday5583
@ianday5583 Ай бұрын
I can't wait untill part two. A masterful documentary of the US Navy's finest carrier admiral.
@Vito_Tuxedo
@Vito_Tuxedo Ай бұрын
Brilliantly done, Drach! Your biographies are among your most engaging videos, full of fascinating and previously unknown (to me) minutiae that bring these characters to life, and offer a valuable perspective that a non-historian (like myself) would otherwise never have seen, much less appreciated. Now I see your sinister mind - subverting us all into an ever deeper appreciation of naval history! I doubt I'm alone in my perception that your work qualifies you for an Admiralship among naval historians. 😎
@jackr2287
@jackr2287 Ай бұрын
The story of the double pace inspection shows a few things: 1. His command was light. He could trust his men to do what needed to be done. 2. It wasn't too light though. Clearly he ran a good ship, and ensured his folks were doing what needed to be done.
@davewitter6565
@davewitter6565 Ай бұрын
Great story telling of the making of a Naval Hero.
@patrickwentz8413
@patrickwentz8413 Ай бұрын
love it. My second favorite admiral after Fletcher.
@warroompainstate2661
@warroompainstate2661 Ай бұрын
Once again Drach you give us another great video. Keep up the good work and you will have an excellent fitness report.
@vernonfindlay1314
@vernonfindlay1314 Ай бұрын
Thanks bud,awesome, just awesome,American,Japanese naval ww2 I eat it all up. Historical I love,but naval and the great depression video are awesome. Thanks again, a Canadian here,keep it up,we have a new car sales manager from England who was in the military. God bless from🇨🇦
@Handcarvedbyrandy
@Handcarvedbyrandy Ай бұрын
I love your videos. My Dad served on the seaplane tender USS Currituck and has long downplayed the importance of this type of vessel because of its relatively unknown status. From what I've been able to obtain and read, the seaplane tender made an important contribution to the war effort and to operations in the early part of the cold war. My humble request is that you might do a video on the contribution made by and the history of this overlooked type of ship. Thank you for what you do.
@bluelemming5296
@bluelemming5296 Ай бұрын
A video would be great. Until it appears, you might check out the book "Eyes of the Fleet: The U.S. Navy's Seaplane Tenders and Patrol Aircraft in World War II" by David Bruhn. I'd love to find a book or paper that covered non-US ships of this type, including some of the Japanese cruisers that doubled as seaplane tenders. FYI, the 3d printing crowd does have some relatively inexpensive models for WW2 seaplane tenders and seaplanes available for purchase. There are also kits for serious modellers who want to build their own.
@Handcarvedbyrandy
@Handcarvedbyrandy Ай бұрын
@@bluelemming5296 I've read several, including that one. I scratch-built a model of the USS Currituck about 30 years ago as a present for my dad. I've got a resin kit I haven't built yet too. I'd like for there to be a video because my dad could watch it. There are actually a few films on youtube of seaplane tenders in action.
@GG-yr5ix
@GG-yr5ix Ай бұрын
Excellent history. It is interesting that Spruance was the only person that Admiral King would shut up and listen to without the usual "sparks". Nimitz had a stroke of genius about people, Spruance was the strategist. Alternating Spruance and Halsey put the Japanese in a tailspin late in the war.
@Smannellites
@Smannellites Ай бұрын
Thank you for a brilliantly researched and detailed history. Very interesting and thorough.
@stflaw
@stflaw Ай бұрын
This is some wonderful writing. Just finished reading Pacific Crucible, so it is interesting to listen to a profile of Spruance.
@ottomeineke9230
@ottomeineke9230 Ай бұрын
Thank you Drach.🫡
@chipsawdust5816
@chipsawdust5816 Ай бұрын
As usual, the best documentary about Fletcher you will find on YT.
@CrazyPetez
@CrazyPetez 27 күн бұрын
This is an excellent report about Spruance.
@lzappa9109
@lzappa9109 Ай бұрын
11/10! Again. Thank you really appreciated.
@GrahamWKidd
@GrahamWKidd Ай бұрын
78% is a huge pass rate. In the 80's Duntroon graduation rate was around 60%!
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 Ай бұрын
Excellent deep dive!
@mrpete5482
@mrpete5482 Ай бұрын
Drach, this is a gem of a biography. It is extraordinarily well crafted and... CLIFFHANGER!😄
@RayBecker
@RayBecker Ай бұрын
Shipmate!! Thank you so much for making this video. Admiral Spruance was one of the great leaders of WWII. More people need to better understand these incredible Commanders because most of what they've done was not in Mahan's book. Our Navies; The Royal Navy and the US Navy owe these people everything we did when we were on Active Duty. As always, love what you put out. Enjoy the rest of your week!! If you ever get close to WV here in the States, look me up.
@swiftmatic
@swiftmatic Ай бұрын
@12:15, "...glowing fitness report." No fkn doubt! 😅
@bholdr----0
@bholdr----0 Ай бұрын
I have really enjoyed all of the vids about the various admirals of consequence in the period that the channel covered- the ones about King, Cochrane, and Willis Lee in particular (the Nelson series, too, but his career has been far more widely covered, so that was less unique/consequential, even though it is also excellent. Anyway, Since I've always been a fan of biographies and (obviously) naval history, I would appreciate anymore bios along these lines. (McCain? Farragut? Keith? At. Vincent? Etc...) Thanks, Drach- Cheers!
@TonyAz71
@TonyAz71 Ай бұрын
The narrative came to a halt. It was essential to resume with his command during the Midway battle.
@slartybartfarst55
@slartybartfarst55 Ай бұрын
1:15 Baby "Bouncing Back & Forth between Indianapolis & Baltimore" Immediately saw one of those Monty Python Cartoons ! 😂😂
@maryholder3795
@maryholder3795 27 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@jameshannagan4256
@jameshannagan4256 Ай бұрын
I'd love to see Fletcher get his day in court so to speak. I'm still puzzled as to why he doesn't get a lot more credit for his work in the very difficult early war period. I wonder who it was who hated Fletcher so much (King) it certainly wasn't Nimitz.
@michaeloswalt3809
@michaeloswalt3809 Ай бұрын
I think we can blame Samuel Eliot Morison. Morison asked Fletcher to reconstruct some of his wartime papers that were lost (in battles?) along the way, Fletcher refused and could not be bothered with it. Morison gave Fletcher the short end when he wrote his Magnum Opus on the history of US Navy Operations in the war. Other historians followed suit. I think only now some have come to appreciate Fletcher's contributions. He had no problem giving operational command during Midway to Spruance when he lost Yorktown. imo
@JackNiles-hc8yz
@JackNiles-hc8yz 7 күн бұрын
I don't think that King was ever impressed much by Fletcher, but "hate" is a pretty strong term here, even if we're talking about Ernie King.
@caboosehelpsu2840
@caboosehelpsu2840 Ай бұрын
The silent but deadly. Keep it!
@ColonelSandersLite
@ColonelSandersLite Ай бұрын
Gotta respect a man that can clear out a whole battleship.
@maxcleveland3446
@maxcleveland3446 Ай бұрын
Douglas SBD Dauntless
@christianhaupt2637
@christianhaupt2637 Ай бұрын
Absolutely love these videos drach! Please keep these coming!
@legiran9564
@legiran9564 Ай бұрын
The closest thing we got to a T800 with an admiral rank.
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