Adobe Creative Cloud isn't worth it

[@MsCristina38]

The Adobe subscription fee is such a rip off. I hope even more competitors come out with new apps.

[@seriouslyoverit]

Thank you so much. I'm getting sick of constantly losing my work with Adobe.

[@ascricco987]

From a newbie’s point of view on PS vs ProCreate…I am a “mature” artist that has discovered the tremendous value of using them as an aid in creating my artwork. I had PS for over a year, my special introduction price expired, and I had no use for the many features…not to mention the learning curve. Canceled it, because I’m tired of everyone having more of my money than me. I’ve bought an iPad Pro and Apple Pencil & never looked back. The app was $12 🤣 I find little gems I didn’t know I could do with it from people like you, so thank you for sharing your knowledge…it’s definitely appreciated!

[@DigitalArtGuru]

Replace Photoshop with Affinity Photo. Replace Illustrator with Affinity Designer. Replace Premiere with DaVinci Resolve.

[@legendjxli1266]

Replace After Effects with what?

[@legendjxli1266]

Also the big problem for me is, that there are far more, better and in depth or better say a huge variety of tutorials. For someone who does all the learning by himself it is so hard finding good tutorials for doing special things in affinit altough it gets better. Next things After Effects - as someone who starts with motion design and has ideas but does not know how to make them come to life tutorials are a must and there are simply a quadrillion out there for nearly anything in after effects and illustrator... Any ideas on that?

[@jirehla-ab1671]

​@@legendjxli1266same, i just pirate it, paying the subribtion is expensive for my family.

[@Ozzoutre]

Davinci Resolve comes with fusion inside, it's a node-based system compared to the compositing system of After Effects @@legendjxli1266

[@isaacbedford3644]

@@legendjxli1266fusion w/in Resolve. Better than after effects for VFX composting

[@joshymcdaniel9233]

Most don’t realize the “annual subscription monthly” It’s like a cell phone contract you have to keep it for the entire year’ What a crock! If I want to cancel 3 months in you can’t

[@DigitalArtGuru]

I left Adobe 4 years ago and I never looked back. There are lots of better options available with no subscriptions. Affinity Software, DaVinci Resolve, etc etc etc

[@KIP_KnowledgeIsPower]

Literally the ONLY reason people, including me are jumping ship with Adobe is the price!!!! Even the errors they haven’t fixed for years would be forgiven if the price wasn’t so greedy!!!! For such an “intuitive software”, you’d think their “intuition” would tell them that greed is the #1 killer of business & relationships, hence why my “business relationship” with them will be ending ASAP!!! I felt like I was already getting ripped, but now just discovered when my latest payment bounced that they’ve put up my CC subscription by around $35 extra a month!!!!! Chomp one Adobe, I’m gone!!! Stop being so greedy & you wouldn’t have any truly threatening competition!!!! 😤😤

[@jaywalkerpictures]

Wow sorry to hear it. What a sneaky price bump. Escape with the rest of us!

[@yakinbozek]

You are totally right, if you are a hobbbiest or an amateur its not worth it, as you can do with the copycats and the weaker free tools. But if you are a professional its more than worth its value to use the best software that the market can offer, and Adobe is the indisputable leader on making tools for creators. If you are a designer or professional artists and can't pay for a tool subscriptions, that is a sign that you are doing many things wrongly. If you use these powerful tools for work, $50 a month is really nothing compared to what you earn out of using them. if you are a proficient designer, illustrator, photographer, videographer or whater creative discipline you pursue it won't hurt to pay for the best tools.

[@daveindezmenez]

Indisputable leader for bugs from what I've heard about Premiere. Using Adobe doesn't automatically equate to "professional" if you don't buy Adobe's propaganda.

[@Yunhaisongtao]

Walk away from all subscriptions, all users should say no to subscriptions.

[@strlke]

im still young 14yo but ive been looking only FOSS = free open source software for very long, and i really think open source is superior becuase if you learn them and only use them, even if big companies acquire them, they still been open source so you can always use the last source code of that software was :). linux fan here.

[@jaywalkerpictures]

good on you, open source is awesome and great for innovation

[@leandrusguy144]

Adobe is just too expensive man

[@madhuvantipatil4708]

This is valuable information. Many thanks

[@VesuviusAntaria]

The big problem is also that schools present such expensive software to students. Students grow up with it and often do not want to switch to alternatives. And they use the expensive programs for free. While an alternative is better because there are enough cheap or free programs where you can design everything.

[@jaywalkerpictures]

Agree this is a big problem :/

[@artokmt]

And now got Universal licence to Affinity 2 and get Photo, Designer and Publisher same basket.

[@hcmac100]

Thanks for those wise tips- It's plain greed with Adobe

[@Heleous281]

What about After effects and adobe reader pro? Any alts for those?

[@daveindezmenez]

It depends on what functions you are doing but there are some ways around a lot of what these apps do. I've found I can edit text in PDFs directly with Affinity Designer. As long as you have the same fonts as are in the PDF you can perform that function. I've got an app on my Linux machine for adding, moving, deleting PDF pages. As for After Effects, there are things within DaVinci Resolve that can do many of the functions of what it does plus there is the free app Blender which can go things too.

[@roggos3668]

Also a heads up, I have only been able to download 10 files at a time from the cloud. So if have hundreds upon hundreds of big files, Good luck

[@circamagic]

proud adobe-walkaway here. BYE BYE ADOBE. get with it, homie

[@Crusader-Ramos45]

I want to get a job as a graphic, as well as an illustrator, but those jobs call for Adobe. And they’re too expensive. The programs I use instead of Adobe are Sketchbook Pro, Inkscape, and GIMP, the last two since I took Digital Art class.

[@NYVoice]

I pay a $ 250 annual subscription fee along with $30 a month package, plus charges for additional Cloud space (oh, do they push that) and any upgrades to your apps they charge you as well. I don't want Adobe to have that kind of access to my bank account. Thank you kindly for the information.

[@jaywalkerpictures]

Ouch that is too much

[@animatewithdermot]

Good advice is to pay the sub with a one-off visa card, put whatever your total will be on that; that way they can't roll you over for a second year on a higher rate.

[@T4RC]

I really wanted to know your thoughts about Davincie Resolve and you cut it out...

[@macgamer1973]

I hate Adobe they killed my favorite company Macromedia

[@katakis4525]

Adobe realized that their flagship products, GoLive and LiveMotion, were falling behind Macromedia's own products. Their solution: kill Macromedia. What's worse is that the Macromedia logos for Dreamweaver, Flash, etc. were superior to the ones that Adobe use now, with their 2 letter rubbish. I lost respect for Adobe since then. Now, I use Studio 8 to work on my gaming review website, and have been happy with it since.

[@animatewithdermot]

@@katakis4525 I used Flash since 2000, very early adopter. I was sad to see how awful Macromedia was in their own right towards the end; their only updates were on the script side, there were little to no updates for animators - and as a result they opened the ground for Toonboom Harmony (another alt. to the Adobe AnimateCC app). When Adobe bought M, they rushed out Flash CS3 as a glorified bugfix - one of the best Flash animators I knew swore by it, kept using it - probably still does! Those old Flash progs, Macromedia v8 and AdobeCS3 were the fastest and most stable. Since then it's been bloat and bugs all the way. CS4 was a horror, 5.5 usable, but noticeably slower. I haven't used it in a while, and don't want to.

[@bigman7856]

If you ever get directed to their community page on Adobe, they will always shut the conversation down with the same old explanations. One of the more interesting defenses is that Adobe isn’t for mere “hobbyists.” It would give off the same vibe as calling smaller creators peasants. Others would say it lessens the competition pool and removes small time creators from playing on the same field as bigger companies(it’s implied as a good thing by these weirdos). One things for sure, there will be a time when 1 or more companies create a similar service that is better and far more affordable to finally blow Adobe’s monopoly out of the water. When getting CC teams is literally more than some people’s rent in my area, there needs to be a solution.

[@jaywalkerpictures]

Great points and fully agree. There are so many much better alternatives out there. Right now Adobe is dominating the professional category filled with older millennials, but the younger generation is growing up on better alternatives. Once they grow up, reach the workforce and make decisions about software being used in companies, Adobe will loose their cashcow.

[@carnmarth334]

Well said. In enforcing these insane subscription prices they are stopping individual designers and small companies from working with their software. Adobe appear not to realize that most of their customers ARE individual designers and small companies. Bloody idiots.

[@jirehla-ab1671]

​@@jaywalkerpicturesi have no probs pirating it, its the only industry standard that works and used by most studios in the 2d motion design ibdustry.

[@jirehla-ab1671]

​@@jaywalkerpicturessince adobe after effects doesnt have a comparable alternative to it.

[@jirehla-ab1671]

​@@jaywalkerpicturesOing the switch would be more time and costly for most studios in my industry, they have no choice.

[@anthonywall1228]

I've been using CS3 since it came out. I know I'm light years behind. But it does everything that I need to do, which is making book covers and editing.

[@animatewithdermot]

100%. I bought CS5.5, and glad I did. I still use it every day, solid as a rock. Photoshop CS6 does everything I need. I'm lucky that I don't need the bells & whistles of CC, and have had so many issues with the cloud stuff (as in PS crashing every time it opened a psd or png file). Couldn't justify paying for it at that point.

[@daveindezmenez]

@@animatewithdermot As long as your OS supports the earlier, non-cloud apps you should be fine. Of course Adobe is trying to find ways or squeezing you out of those an into their cloud apps so they can start charging rent.

[@Ringa_fr]

Alternative Adobe Photoshop 👉🏽Affinity Photo

[@jaywalkerpictures]

Affinity is great but hard to beat photopea which is free

[@Ringa_fr]

@@jaywalkerpictures Normal, Affinity Photo is unbeatable, Photopedia sucks. 👎🏽

[@KillerTacos54]

Fantastic video! Very very helpful

[@jaywalkerpictures]

Glad it was helpful!

[@mrmalio]

Penpot, Lunacy and the Pencil Project are all alternatives for figma

[@jaywalkerpictures]

Thanks yeah Pen pot looks good since it’s open source

[@EduardoRamirez-em5qw]

Just for curiosity. Did you tried opensource software like krita or gimp? Whats your opinion on these?

[@jaywalkerpictures]

Haven’t tried but heard good things about them. So many good free options is great for us

[@animatewithdermot]

@@jaywalkerpictures Krita can be glitchy but it's very good. I've had a very quick learning curve with it. If you animate with it, it's also pretty decent - the krita timeline is definitely better than PS.

[@daveindezmenez]

I've heard that Gimp can run kind of sluggishly because of lack of hardware acceleration. But there are people who like it.

[@cenecirojason]

Wow Thank you so much! God bless

[@jaywalkerpictures]

No problem 😊

[@CaraMarie13]

My brother is looking into learning video editing and I set up a student account for him since he's still in school. I was trying to learn about what each application does and noticed a lot of the negative feedback about adobes payment system. I would like to know if the issue for a lot of you is the monthly subscription or a quality issue? I will only pay $20 a month once the trial ends next and thankfully for me that's not a lot of money. I saw for non-students it's almost $60 a month for the same plan. Like is it really that much? Specially for people who use those applications for work. Like am confused any the backlash.

[@jaywalkerpictures]

The backlash manly comes from those that remember when adobe was not a subscription. But the crux of the matter is value - when you consider there are free (or non-subscription, one-off payment) alternatives that can do just as good as adobes software it really makes you question what one is paying for.

[@daveindezmenez]

For video editing forget Adobe. Beyond the rental fee it's known to be buggy. Consider the free version of DaVinci Resolve instead.

[@Yunhaisongtao]

It adds up, although 50/m, it’s 600/yr, 10 years 6000, a lot of money. Mind you that people not in us pays a lot more than that due to the exchange rate.

[@DanteMishima]

The moment they bought, it's become really slow

[@kerawelt2008]

Thank you very much !

[@kostasvoulgaris]

What is the alternative to Adobe animate? I was using macro media flash until Adobe bought this brilliant software. There is not alternative this quality at the market. On the other hand all that knowledge that I had through years of flash user now is inactive. I suppose purchase is the only solution instead of using pirate staff

[@r2r90]

sir i used without sign up adobe software but his asking me to sign up again and again so please help me to do it without sign up

[@cherriepie]

If you set your location to Turkey you can get your prices down massively. Shhh🤫 you never heard that from me...

[@tinas6459]

Can you create puffy 3D designs on affinity designer?

[@matiasperez3158]

thanks tis video helped so much ur a g

[@macgamer1973]

8:18 I can a Mac server 200, Mac Pro 2013 for that price,Wacom , Mac Pro 2010

[@quincyblue5098]

60 bucks per month is just 2 dollars a day. This is just a deductable business expense for me. Also...when things are for free....how are they funding the development of the products? Adobe has everything I need, and the integration between the apps and third parties are well worth the effort. And if you are struggling to pay 60 bucks per month as an entrepreneur?, you might get yourself a 9-5 job

[@carnmarth334]

This is all very well, and thanks for doing all this research. But what about compatibility with other users? If you're using InDesign and Illustrator, you might need to send files back and forth to/from clients, and those clients need to be able to open and edit files before sending them back. So you have to be using the same software as them. So there doesn't seem to be any way out. I agree that the subscription amount is insane.

[@Aspen.Denney]

I haven't needed to share files like this with other people, but I have had to go from app to app to finish a project; for that to work, I just had to make sure the file formats were usable in all the apps I planned on using. Even "Adobe" file formats [like PSD] are compatible with the vast majority of related external apps, just because they are so widely used, so I can't see file sharing as something that would become an issue. [Unless I'm just misunderstanding what you're talking about, and you're talking about some sort of collaborative workspace that Adobe has specifically? ]

[@maravreloaded]

This is why you should pirate Adobe software. It isn't worth it.

[@aarongoozman]

Affinity for life.

[@kose9199]

seen penpot as a great open source alternative

[@jaywalkerpictures]

Wow! Looks like a potential Figma replacement

[@theamateurwithaccess]

Doesn't Affinity Designer offer UX design features as well?

[@jaywalkerpictures]

Not that I’m aware of but I think figma definitely better on the UX front

[@aaronlee7991]

I can give adobe cc full license ☺️

[@stevearroyo4716]

Hey can I use these on windows 11?

[@animatewithdermot]

Yes

[@MrCarlinios]

Getting adobe adds btw

[@sohappyilltry]

its not worth it because of the ridiculous monthly subscriptions, still adobe is the best, ill just go broke if i keep using their apps😢😢😢😢😢

[@VistarCreative]

If you think the Adobe software is a rip off, then you are poor at business. That’s OK. A lot of creative sort. I’ve used Adobe for 30 years and made hundreds of thousands of dollars that I would probably not have made without access to this software. The amazing software that Adobe provides is by far my number one tool with a video production company.

[@PrimoKadro80s]

That's your opinion. My opinion is the opposite of yours.

[@VistarCreative]

@@PrimoKadro80s it’s mine and 30 million other subscribers.

[@daveindezmenez]

If your aim in business is to drain your bank account as quickly as possible then you're a business genius. Considering that you've used Adobe products for over 30 years it goes to follow that most of those years were rent free and if you'd compare the CS years with the CC years you'd find those earlier years to be more profitable for you and less for Adobe.

[@VistarCreative]

@@daveindezmenez it’s only January and congratulations, that’s the dumbest statement of the year.

[@daveindezmenez]

@@VistarCreative Adobe loves your position and your money.

[@josephlemons]

This aged poorly lol 😂