Meet the little-known "Soundblaster" Keyboards

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The 8-Bit Guy

The 8-Bit Guy

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@collinmcdonald83
@collinmcdonald83 9 жыл бұрын
I found a PSS-470 for sale at a yard sale today for 20 bucks. I saw it and couldnt remember whether or not it was one of the keyboards you had talked about, but I bought it and its awesome. All of this old technology is so interesting.
@The8BitGuy
@The8BitGuy 9 жыл бұрын
+collin m Great deal! I had to pay 3 times that much for mine and the PSS-470 is my favorite of all of my keyboards.
@stopfidgetting
@stopfidgetting 8 жыл бұрын
I just found one at my local thrift store for $9.99 and I couldn't convince my mom to buy it for me... so sad :(
@olivertaylor7247
@olivertaylor7247 8 жыл бұрын
+Caudex I know what you mean.
@TanjoGalbi
@TanjoGalbi 8 жыл бұрын
I still have my old PSS-580. I used to use it with my Atari STFM to try to produce music (I was not, am still not very good at it!) but my fondest memories was having games like Leisure Suit Larry use MIDI out to produce much better sounding game music through my Yamaha keyboard :)
@nokkusuu
@nokkusuu 8 жыл бұрын
I have Fruity DX10... is that good enough? xD
@tohopes
@tohopes 8 жыл бұрын
2:18 "It's a Sound Blaster with keys!" Funny because the AdLib and Sound Blaster were basically Yamaha DX-series synths _without_ keys. (Well, stripped-down DX series synths.)
@allaboutthatphatbass2968
@allaboutthatphatbass2968 8 жыл бұрын
tohopes true
@Sekeletu
@Sekeletu 7 жыл бұрын
Than you could say, that those keyboards were basically DX-series synths rebranded to PS-series? :)
@ian_b
@ian_b 7 жыл бұрын
I've never understood how Yamaha's FM synthesis took over the synth universe in the 80s. It was terribly difficult to program, and when you did, it sounded rubbish. All that tinkly bonk 80s stereotype comes from the DX series (to oversimplify a bit). Thank God analogue (at least soundwise, if digitally emulated) made a comeback when everybody sobered up from the DX-7 party. I really don't understand how anyone could like the sounds the DXes produced.
@ian_b
@ian_b 7 жыл бұрын
Well yes, but "outlandish" doesn't get used much in music. All the DX stuff sounded terribly thin, which is why nobody but the retro community use it any more. It just felt at the time, for me, like synthesizer music "died" when the DX7 came out, and didn't rise from the grave again until the rave community got hold of the TB303, heh. People had stopped using synths as a unique instrument. Why bother when you can just pull out the same 5 presets over and over again? I love the sound of a real Fender Rhodes. But that DX7 monstrosity of a patch brings me out in hives.
@MrHal90000
@MrHal90000 7 жыл бұрын
That's like, your opinion man.
@sbanner428
@sbanner428 Жыл бұрын
This inspired 9yo me to get a PSS-470 for ~$50, and years later I still love it :D
@bambel4997
@bambel4997 7 жыл бұрын
3:13 "I also wanna show you that it definitely has nine voices. It's actually kind of hard to do, but ill hold down nine keys." *plays nine keys with 5 fingers when he has 10 fingers*
@stevebez2767
@stevebez2767 5 жыл бұрын
nigh en nine -mozart
@shrimpfry880
@shrimpfry880 4 жыл бұрын
What a chad
@xyvillanueva4936
@xyvillanueva4936 4 жыл бұрын
With a mini-sized keyboard, assigning 1 white key (played side-by-side) for each finger is quite a challenge.
@afreezaphorogiancossack2194
@afreezaphorogiancossack2194 3 жыл бұрын
Waaaaa
@smuglife64gaming21
@smuglife64gaming21 3 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7
@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7 8 жыл бұрын
Fun facts for you: 64-bit Windows computers can't emulate DOS games, so sound chip emulators for those aren't bundled with those 64-bit editions. You'll need something else, like DOSBox. On a side note, many versions of Windows, both 64 and 32-bit, emulate a GS Wavetable Synthesizer, with samples from Roland's Sound Canvas GM/GS Sound Set from 1996, for when you ask your music player app to play a MIDI file. These samples were licensed to Microsoft and are bundled with Windows to this day.
@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7
@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7 8 жыл бұрын
Also, since Windows Vista, new models for graphics controllers were made, WDDM controllers. These can't jump into text mode or send DOS graphics data. So proper DOS emulation was broken in the newest editions of Windows.
@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7
@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7 8 жыл бұрын
Doddo MultiGamer​​​​​​​​ One word: *EMULATION.* Windows x64 itself may not be able to run DOS games due to a processor layer being unavailable, but if the processor itself is told to run 32-bit Windows or 16-bit DOS, that layer will be emulated and run just fine! DOSBox emulates this layer too, all the time. That's why it can run on a 64-bit Windows PC too. As for exactly what that layer... instruction thing is... I don't remember. Windows WDDM controllers may be unable to jump to text mode, but your computer's BIOS or EFI CSM module are still capable of it. But in EFI machines, their CSM module is also an emulator. EFI PCs have another set of protocols for console text and graphics display. In other words: GODDAMIT MS EMULATE THAT SUBSYSTEM ALREADY AND GIMME MY DOS APPS BACK!! If WDDM controllers can't run in text mode, then don't. Just pop a window in fullscreen exclusive mode (the kind videogames use) and emulate textmode instead of trying to pipe it to the system directly. That's what DOSBox does, and it works.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 8 жыл бұрын
WDDM is merely a Windows interface to the graphics driver, it says nothing about capabilities of the hardware. It was intoduced in Windows Vista, where some things like GDI acceleration and text mode were no longer needed and thus are no longer accessible from within Windows. But other operating systems, Linux, older versions of Windows, etc., can still support text mode, it's not gone from the hardware. Other peculiarity is that once a x86-64 processor has been reinitialized in long mode (64-bit support), vm86 mode is no longer available by spec. Vm86 is the mode that allows a protected-mode program to span a real-mode compatible environment inside of itself. DOS support in Windows 2000, XP was completely based around vm86 mode. So it made sense for Microsoft to start removing things that were needed for vm86 support. I don't know why Microsoft should concern themselves with emulation of older subsystems necessary for DOS games? They were never particularly thorough at that, in theory third parties can do a better job. But it's not a very commercially viable field, so that limits the effort put into that.
@skirmich
@skirmich 8 жыл бұрын
Why the Global Defense Initiative will have an Acceleration and Text Mode? Man that is why NOD kicks it ass all the time.
@AshBashVids
@AshBashVids 8 жыл бұрын
You could just build a retro PC and use it for DOS. Parts are fairly cheap.
@AdamTheAd-vanc3d
@AdamTheAd-vanc3d 7 жыл бұрын
Love this channel. The nostalgia trip is heart warming. Amazing how technology has come a long way , still these devices are very useful.
@jordanzish
@jordanzish 9 жыл бұрын
These keyboards sound great. So much better than the sample-based Casios I grew up with in the 90s. I would love something like this with a Commodore 64 SID chip in it. I converted an old Casio keyboard into a MIDI keyboard with a breadboard and a Teensy, and I have a SID chip lying around. I might just have to try and make that happen.
@The8BitGuy
@The8BitGuy 9 жыл бұрын
+jordanzish That would be cool. It should be possible to do using Arduino or something like that to substitute as a brain for the keyboard. You could turn any keyboard into a SID station.
@patrickmullen5167
@patrickmullen5167 4 жыл бұрын
As a child born in the 70’s, that grew up in the 80’s and 90’s, I absolutely love your channel 👍
@shmehfleh3115
@shmehfleh3115 9 жыл бұрын
I think it's more fair to say modern PCs still support the general MIDI standard rather than Yamaha FM synth chips specifically. Sound Blaster cards only included Yamaha's FM synth chips through the Sound Blaster 16 days. Starting with the AWE32, Creative Labs dumped Yamaha's chips in favor of the e-Mu line of MIDI synthesizers/DSPs. They kept support for Yamaha FM synth in their cards only until DOS gaming was dead & gone, and that level of hardware backwards-compatibility was no longer needed. These days, Windows provides MIDI playback via a rather crappy software-based wavetable synthesizer.
@CowboyGarage
@CowboyGarage 8 ай бұрын
Wowsers, I have a PSS-570 and PSS-270 sitting beside me as I watch this. They were my first two keyboards from back in the 80's when I was learning to play.
@RYN1980
@RYN1980 9 жыл бұрын
Cool. I love FM synthesis. Yamaha developed many FM sound chips throughout the 80s and 90s. Pretty much anything you heard was yamaha until the later half of the 90s when sample based sound was becoming common. Yamaha changed the world with its professional keyboard DX-7 in 1983.
@djdigital3806
@djdigital3806 6 жыл бұрын
Ryan Hurshman I used to own a DX7. Classic sounds.
@SPAZZOID100
@SPAZZOID100 6 жыл бұрын
Ryan Hurshman impossible to program. TERRIBLE interface.
@MrPoonmoon
@MrPoonmoon 6 жыл бұрын
Not quite, the market was pretty full of choice but yep FM was the 80's sound of choice, although I stuck with my Yammy Analogue synth for depth FM didn't have. There was a distinct difference between the big hitters in the 80's - I could hear whether a band used Yamaha, Roland, Korg & Casio etc. But really the kings of FM in the 80s imo was Roland; you can't beat a Juno ;)
@OlaftheGreat
@OlaftheGreat 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe it, but I found a PSR-11 at a Goodwill thrift store...with the green half-off sticker
@naoidfpaiourej3299
@naoidfpaiourej3299 5 жыл бұрын
I got a PSS 570 for my birthday in 1986. I loved it and made hours of cassette tapes of recording music with it. I thought I recognised the similarity between the FM sounds of the soundblaster cards in the early 90s and my old keyboard!!
@magicgiraffesoundworks4533
@magicgiraffesoundworks4533 5 жыл бұрын
I just bought one of these (PSS-470) for $60 after watching your video. Super cool addition to my gear!
@davidsantos1381
@davidsantos1381 8 жыл бұрын
What an outstanding piece of research you have done here... This is what youtube should stand for! And you are quite capable musician too... It would be cool to see the capabilities of this platforms with a little composition These have been 10 minutes well spent... Greetings form Colombia!!
@ArtoPekkanen
@ArtoPekkanen 8 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, that Ultima 6 intro sounded so MAJESTIC on this keyboard .... so nostalgic. I am shedding a tear :)
@xeostube
@xeostube 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed! I was always impressed by that intro tune.
@elviswjr
@elviswjr 9 жыл бұрын
Those keyboards sound deliciously retro. If I could play I would definitely buy one just so I could recreate old-school video game music.
@TinchoX
@TinchoX 9 жыл бұрын
+APPLBL00M You can do that via software nowadays.... but I guess it doesn't "Sound" the same.
@ozzie_goat
@ozzie_goat 9 жыл бұрын
+TinchoX That pun was bad.
@TinchoX
@TinchoX 9 жыл бұрын
Blowtorch the Robot Lol!! Haha no it was not a pun but I just realized it made it sound that way xD.
@TorutheRedFox
@TorutheRedFox 8 жыл бұрын
+Elvis S Same. Sega Genesis-like music here I come! Also I think the YM2612 is a cost reduced version of the YM3812. Both even end in 12!
@thealternativej7994
@thealternativej7994 8 жыл бұрын
That depends on how accurate the YM FM emulation is.
@elmosexwhistle
@elmosexwhistle 8 жыл бұрын
Hi @The 8-Bit Guy, the top of the range Yamaha home keyboard at the time was the PSR 36. It is a PSR 32 with the 470 sliders added back in, AND ALSO MIDI!
@jackispax1633
@jackispax1633 4 ай бұрын
The PSR-41 is actually one small step above the 36, adding a melody sequencer and a transpose function. Otherwise identical.
@tubeularfag
@tubeularfag 8 жыл бұрын
So excited to hear the new music channel. This is just the material I would wish to produce. Looking forward to some create sounds from the past.
@jamgard3
@jamgard3 2 жыл бұрын
I found a PSS 470 at a thrift store a few years ago. 20 bucks in the box, adapter included. I had no idea about the history of it's sounds! Such a cool little synthesizer.
@80ssynthfan48
@80ssynthfan48 2 жыл бұрын
That's a good find. The 470 gets quite a lot of love on YT.
@asdfasdf4345artsdfg
@asdfasdf4345artsdfg 9 жыл бұрын
I saw this video of a live performance from 1987, where the (extremely skilled) keyboardist was able to rock his fingers side to side in order to produce a fluttering sound - similar to one you'd hear if you were to do the same on strings. It must have been an extremely advanced keyboard for its time, and it definitely was a nice performance. It seemed to have plenty of synths as well. It would be cool to identify.
@ronniepirtlejr2606
@ronniepirtlejr2606 4 жыл бұрын
I found a Casio CTK-611. It had been sitting on the side of the road in the rain for 2 weeks. I finally stopped and picked it up. When I got home and let it dry out for about 2 weeks, I took the back off cleaned and oiled everything. Upgraded it with some 18650 batteries. It's not a bad keyboard. Has plenty of sounds with midi inputs.
@gideonwaxfarb
@gideonwaxfarb 8 жыл бұрын
I had the Yamaha PSS-470 back in the day. Had no idea it was an FM synth. Guess it was a poor kid's DX7 :)
@djdigital3806
@djdigital3806 6 жыл бұрын
Gideon Waxfarb Love that DX7
@EmmanouelKatsoulakis
@EmmanouelKatsoulakis 6 жыл бұрын
I still have my Yamaha PSS 470 around and keep it for my nephew to learn playing. I admit I had a fun go at it recently. But I didn’t know that it was basically a sound blaster with keys. Thank you for the info Mr 8bit guy
@pnky81
@pnky81 5 жыл бұрын
My first keyboard ever was the Yamaha PSR-16 that uses the YM3420AD and YM3420BF chipset. It also has the "digital synthesizer" FM operator controls, which I loved as a kid.
@Cheyne_TetraMFG
@Cheyne_TetraMFG 4 жыл бұрын
07:17 just a fun fact, the synth used by Van Halen on "Jump" was the Oberheim OB-X, which was analog. Still, sounds fine if a little tinny on this Soundblaster chip.
@my_beer_stories
@my_beer_stories 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact 2: Modern Yamaha keyboards have a voice called "Jump Brass" which imitates the sound exactly.
@kajeellworth4746
@kajeellworth4746 5 жыл бұрын
PSS-470 was my first keyboard as a kid, it was great for a beginner, had so much fun with that little keyboard
@SilverShrimpTX
@SilverShrimpTX 9 жыл бұрын
As a fellow Pianist,..you sir,...are a very good piano player :)
@SilverShrimpTX
@SilverShrimpTX 9 жыл бұрын
Also, I live in HOUSTON....the best city in TEXAS!!!!
@Khyree_Holmes
@Khyree_Holmes 9 жыл бұрын
+SilverShrimp TX I don't consider myself a concert pianist, I'm more a synthesizer guy... been playing [practicing] for years and make beats, too. Concert pianists are too structured in my opinion, people expect perfection in that area of music, don't get me wrong when I say I love classical music, I'd listen to ANYTHING.... I don't like to read sheet music.
@Khyree_Holmes
@Khyree_Holmes 9 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@nonproquoloremipsumdolor7626
@nonproquoloremipsumdolor7626 7 жыл бұрын
I live in 2010 texas avenue
@aretard7995
@aretard7995 4 жыл бұрын
@@Khyree_Holmes "I'd listen to ANYTHING" would you REALLY listen to Canon in D?!
@thesemenincident
@thesemenincident 9 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks! I really appreciate the time and effort you've put into documenting these YM3812 devices.
@human.earthling
@human.earthling 9 жыл бұрын
It's always worth watching your videos. Thanks!
@amberisvibin
@amberisvibin 2 жыл бұрын
after seeing this video YEARS ago, I finally have one of these from ebay. it's so fun
@jonathan_herr
@jonathan_herr 5 жыл бұрын
Who's here in 2019 and remarking at how EMPTY HIS WALLS ARE?!?
@subzakk4226
@subzakk4226 5 жыл бұрын
You beat me to it
@montruo000000007
@montruo000000007 5 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, didnt even notice till I read this!
@kurtownsj00
@kurtownsj00 5 жыл бұрын
the "iBook Guy" thing was odd, then boom, empty walls.
@awilliams1701
@awilliams1701 5 жыл бұрын
all his old videos are going to look empty now that he has that gigantic 1 million subscriber plaque. lol
@thescreemregular5168
@thescreemregular5168 5 жыл бұрын
Me
@id104335409
@id104335409 8 жыл бұрын
Hearing those sounds made me roll back my eyes with joy! I thought I'd never hear anything like that again!
@allwrathnograpes
@allwrathnograpes 8 жыл бұрын
BRING BACK THE FM SYNTH CHIPS
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 5 жыл бұрын
Knobs and sliders and switches, for us physical guys.
@danalog76
@danalog76 5 жыл бұрын
Has anyone been able to convert the sliders to rotary pots?
@Geo-wc7jc
@Geo-wc7jc 5 жыл бұрын
@@danalog76 you could probably just bypass the connections
@danalog76
@danalog76 5 жыл бұрын
@@Geo-wc7jc You get some very cool glitchy sounds with some of the presets when you quickly slide the Attack/Decay and other vertical faders up and down. It would be cool to see if a rotary controller would expand this effect at all.
@DJDigitalJosh
@DJDigitalJosh 5 жыл бұрын
@@BrunoidGames make a video of you using your mega drive as a keyboard. 👍
@tiengtructiengdong
@tiengtructiengdong Жыл бұрын
RIP Sim Wong Hoo, the father of Sound Blaster.
@nicechordwiwi
@nicechordwiwi 9 жыл бұрын
Wow the iBook Guy plays the piano!
@Knight465
@Knight465 6 жыл бұрын
NiceChord (好和弦) !看舊片也能發現好和弦!
@luigikoopa8771
@luigikoopa8771 3 жыл бұрын
I guess he had not made 8-Bit Keys yet...
@luigikoopa8771
@luigikoopa8771 3 жыл бұрын
nvm I just read the discription
@kurotoro_official
@kurotoro_official 3 жыл бұрын
This aged well
@bfapple
@bfapple 3 жыл бұрын
@@kurotoro_official How?
@NoNonsenseKnowHow
@NoNonsenseKnowHow 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man!!! Really brings me back!
@Dave_thenerd
@Dave_thenerd 8 жыл бұрын
Dude, you are great at playing the synthesizer !
@MrTrollinglol
@MrTrollinglol 8 жыл бұрын
I want him to review a fully fledged synthesizer at some point
@beybladeguru101
@beybladeguru101 8 жыл бұрын
+MrTrollinglol Go to his other channel! 8 - Bit Keys.
@MrTrollinglol
@MrTrollinglol 8 жыл бұрын
+Raptor I'm aware of that channel, I meant review a vintage synthesizer marketed as a professional instrument instead of a kids toy. like a Juno 106 or something
@beybladeguru101
@beybladeguru101 8 жыл бұрын
+MrTrollinglol Oh, I see. Sorry, I just misunderstood your comment.
@bambel4997
@bambel4997 7 жыл бұрын
If you can play the piano you can play anything with keys, lol
@TheThorns
@TheThorns 8 жыл бұрын
I remeber my dad getting our IBM PS/1 upgraded with a soundcard & a CD drive. was amazing back then.
@justanotheryoutubechannel
@justanotheryoutubechannel 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I’m so glad I didn’t grow up in the eras where soundcards were necessary. That would be awful! I’d be stuck with PC Speaker as I’m an idiot and wouldn’t know how to install a better card.
@antonnym214
@antonnym214 5 жыл бұрын
I've decided yours is the best channel on youtube No matter the subject, you make it very interesting! Thank you for your efforts.
@Spike7547
@Spike7547 5 жыл бұрын
You should get out more.
@thegardenofeatin5965
@thegardenofeatin5965 8 жыл бұрын
That "piano" music is so very SNES. That is the sound of a town in a 16-bit JRPG.
@dizzym9554
@dizzym9554 8 жыл бұрын
Oddly enough, the SNES was actually using more "modern" PCM music, the Genesis would be a closer comparison as it used FM synthesis and a very similar chip to the YM3812 (specifically, the YM2612)
@Mr1p0d
@Mr1p0d 8 жыл бұрын
Also it would be the PC-98 that actually used the YM2608 most commonly known as OPNA, and that chip is basically the so-called "complete version of the 2612 that the Genesis/MD uses :3
@alandunaway3000
@alandunaway3000 6 жыл бұрын
The SNES was soundfont-based fart sound.
@nos1000100
@nos1000100 6 жыл бұрын
still one of my favorite videos from this channel
@dragonfly_bry
@dragonfly_bry 5 жыл бұрын
Damn man...all this AND the Slurm tee? Instant sub!!!!
@gradycothren2267
@gradycothren2267 3 жыл бұрын
Holy crap I had a PSS460, got it for Christmas that year! I loved it, used it in a teenage band with some spliced 1/4 inch cables to run through a Crate G60 amp with a Celestion speaker. A year later I ended up buying an Ensoniq ESQ1 and retired it. I had a lot of fun with that 460. For what it was, it sounded pretty decent, especially being able to mildly tweak the sounds with the sliders. Thanks for the video and trip down memory lane!
@megabyte01
@megabyte01 3 жыл бұрын
This and your other videos helped me to understand how the music from the games of my childhood worked. Thanks for all your hard work!
@ChrisJones-md9jz
@ChrisJones-md9jz Жыл бұрын
I had a PSS-560 back in the day. May have to get another one! And I use a SoundBlaster ZxR today. Thamks for taking me back 😊
@greenaum
@greenaum 8 жыл бұрын
Bit disappointed there's no actual Sound Blaster involved. And technically I think the chip would be more accurately called an Adlib chip, since the SB contained it for Adlib compatibility. As well as a way of having synth sounds. The Adlib was an earlier "standard" as much as there was one back then, still most PCs didn't have sound cards at all til the early 90s. I remember playing Doom with my SB16. Doom is 50% of the reason I bought a PC, and that's true for a lot of people. It had the same chip, I think, or a compatible one. Nowadays sound is all synthesised on your CPU, the PC's built-in sound chip is just a DAC, it can only play back samples, generated on the fly in software. Some more expensive cards have DSPs to generate those, cheap or built-in ones use the CPU. Still nice to see some of the cool old keyboards though. I managed to find the old demo tune from my old Casio keyboard and used it for a ringtone. Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go! Used nearly every instrument the little keyboard could do, and there were like a hundred!
@stevebez2767
@stevebez2767 5 жыл бұрын
in yer phase out char null gen timex root no swing quiz 0 THE way stars bluey stage com pass map 8bit mug off yankee slap kuddy toy chap iff tree hang hitlaa key C black white racey car boo tup shop clised wits food eh?
@half-assmusic6553
@half-assmusic6553 3 жыл бұрын
It's literally the core of the sound blaster lmao
@Masamune0191
@Masamune0191 5 жыл бұрын
Music from the Sound Blaster board will always hold a special place in my heart. I remember playing those old DOS games with my brothers when I was a kid...
@kshinokevin
@kshinokevin 6 жыл бұрын
I totally remember the "Sound Blaster" sound card ! I still am using my late cousin's "Creative (Labs)" small speakers (for a laptop).
@BurleyBoar
@BurleyBoar 4 жыл бұрын
The new 2020 google algorithm suggested I rewatch this. After 4 years you can see how much the production has improved with new videos but quality content is still the same. Glad to be a patreon and nice to have a reminder how much the production has improved!
@MrBenMcLean
@MrBenMcLean 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks to this video, I got my own! Now I love my PSS-570 soundblaster keyboard :) It is difficult to exactly match the sounds I remember from my favorite DOS game Soundblaster soundtracks though.
@dvwelch1
@dvwelch1 8 ай бұрын
FYI VanHalen used the Oberheim OB-8 61 key keyboard
@TinchoX
@TinchoX 9 жыл бұрын
Ahh... that 8-bit keyboard sounds is hitting me right at my nostalgia hahaha. The only keyboard I ever played was an actual virtual keyboard that came with my old "Soundblaster Live! Value" soundcard software, it was a good piece of software, it allowed you to do a lot all sort of things. The good old days when MIDI music was the rage!!
@VideyoJunkei
@VideyoJunkei 8 жыл бұрын
I have a PSS-470(partly bent) and a PSS-570 in the box. I initally thought a 570 was a "470 with all the bits in" but I quickly realized they were wired totally different in spite of looking much the same! I like them-the colored panel really stands out!
@dadgumit2505
@dadgumit2505 6 жыл бұрын
glad you can still get the YM3812 chips on ebay! for cheap too. I will definitely do some projects with them
@someguystudios23
@someguystudios23 4 жыл бұрын
Arent those the same ( or similar) to the ones found in the sega genesis?
@angledcoathanger
@angledcoathanger 8 жыл бұрын
So stoked for that music channel!
@chocolateshake4917
@chocolateshake4917 9 жыл бұрын
Okay, in the last four hours you've not only convinced me to get back into game dev as a hobby, but also get a PSS-470 because that Ultima 4 intro was sick. I guess thanks; I've subbed and so have my friends. Great videos man! Annnnnd all your Futurama shirts kick ass.
@holdengreen8793
@holdengreen8793 7 жыл бұрын
Craig Grey same
@fredpayette5146
@fredpayette5146 8 жыл бұрын
Getting a PSS-570 tonight ! Excited. This is perfect for old school pc / console music.
@vwestlife
@vwestlife 9 жыл бұрын
Keyboards that use square wave tone generators can also sound very similar to 1980s computer sound chips, such as the C64, Tandy 1000/IBM PCjr, ColecoVision, Atari ST, etc.: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYXOioeqa6aMqJY
@DerpProductionz
@DerpProductionz 9 жыл бұрын
Hi vwestlife
@MaximNightFury
@MaximNightFury 9 жыл бұрын
hey vwest!
@gabemarthepro6391
@gabemarthepro6391 7 жыл бұрын
hi VWestlife!
@SettimaLegione
@SettimaLegione 6 жыл бұрын
but C64 doest use square wave, it has a sort of hybrid analogic output
@qix6424
@qix6424 6 жыл бұрын
The C=64 had a sound of its own.
@FinalBaton
@FinalBaton 7 жыл бұрын
In retrospect this video was so important in the lore of David's KZbin content. It announced the launch of the much-loved "8-Bit Keys" channel #anewera #yuge
@ImplosiveCatt
@ImplosiveCatt 4 жыл бұрын
When Creative Labs were creative.
@mcrsit
@mcrsit 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks to your video I bought a splendid PSS-560! Sounds, looks and feels terrific, thx 8-bit Guy! And kudos for the new channel, 8-bit Keys! ^^
@psuadonym4740
@psuadonym4740 9 жыл бұрын
damn i remember back in the day i had to buy a sound card for warcraft 2 to have sound.
@Trancelistic
@Trancelistic 9 жыл бұрын
Psuado Nym Ye. I bough a like 2000$ dollar pentium 75 mhz pc. It didnt had a soundcard NOR a cd-rom. So I had to buy that later and it was my first time installing it in my pc. I was so scared to break something haha. It took me maybe 4 hours to install a card in its isa/pci slot lol. ( now its takes me like 5 sec ofcourse) AH good old days.
@psuadonym4740
@psuadonym4740 9 жыл бұрын
trancelistic yeah bro, I remember the first time i had to install ram, i was shook i was gonna break the desktop lol
@ashleyhedges
@ashleyhedges 9 жыл бұрын
Psuado Nym I remember doing the same to play Doom. First PC upgrade was for a 486 SX 25, 4meg to 12meg RAM as well as the Sound Blaster. Having to manually set jumpers for the port and irq, wow, times have changed.
@Trancelistic
@Trancelistic 9 жыл бұрын
That reminds me of a story. A friends dad had 4 Mb ram and I had 1 mb ram total. So we couldn't play doom. My friend advised to switched my ram with his dad so we could play sneaky. What a hell that was. Those fast page ram/edo ram was anoyingly stuck. Took us hours and pain in our finger nails ( on the first try haha)
@NakedSnake85
@NakedSnake85 9 жыл бұрын
+Psuado Nym "Your soundcard works PERFECTLY! It doesn't get any better than this!"
@Corbs_vinyl_and_cassettes
@Corbs_vinyl_and_cassettes 9 ай бұрын
i have the Yamaha PSS 460 from 1986. i got it from a goodwill for $10
@PeteKowalsky
@PeteKowalsky 8 жыл бұрын
LOL @ 7:20, yeah I'm pretty sure it was an OB-8 or OB-Xa or something... :D
@SiliconBassist
@SiliconBassist 8 жыл бұрын
Yes, the OB-Xa!
@zibbybone
@zibbybone 8 жыл бұрын
OB-X on recording, OB-Xa in video
@dabistudio_japan
@dabistudio_japan 8 жыл бұрын
Very nice video! I also loved the one you made explaining the synth sound on each one of the consoles and old computers. It is really illustrative to learn how to compose that kind of music from the bases.
@benbenpotato
@benbenpotato 8 жыл бұрын
oh my god the soundboard looks like the soundcard I tore up last week for an art project
@faithbrackenhooper9550
@faithbrackenhooper9550 7 жыл бұрын
Great vid, i just bought a Yamaha PSS680 today for ten quid, gonna keep me and my 7 year old daughter busy and entertained,
@inversephase
@inversephase 9 жыл бұрын
Great video! Space Quest 3 and Ultima 6 were some of my favorite games to play as a kid, so I highly approve of the example songs. =] I have a few comments: At 8:10, you mention all voices on the YM2413 / OPLL have to use the same instrument, but that's not actually true. It's just that you can only define one instrument. Each channel can play that instrument or one of 15 other instruments that are not definable. The other instruments are generic stuff like "Trumpet" or "Vibraphone", and on keyboards that contain a YM2413 (I believe the PSR-6 has one?), the instrument chooser doesn't have to do any real "logic" to choose an instrument. A button can just send "switch to instrument 7" or whatever. For reference, here's a track that uses a YM2413: inversephase.bandcamp.com/track/token-ringfinger Anyone mentioning they have a different keyboard with potentially a different chip that "sounds the same" might be interested in knowing that they're probably still Yamaha keyboards with Yamaha OP-series chips, which means they're still built around FM. The underlying process with building music with FM is mostly the same regardless of the chip, which is why. Lastly, as for "having a keyboard with a Soundblaster in it"....you know that the gameport (that 15-pin thing) can double as a MIDI port, right? So you can connect any dumb MIDI controller with no output of its own to that and "play the soundblaster" if you like. Extra bonus, if you have some outboard gear like a Roland MT-32, you can use that soundcard selection to send music data from the same port.
@Sauraen
@Sauraen 5 жыл бұрын
:wave:
@TheRepublicOfJohn
@TheRepublicOfJohn 8 жыл бұрын
just in case anyone here is interested in circuit bending or modding: The Yamaha YM chips found in these keyboards have an 8-bit parallel data bus that runs to other chips on the PCB. One really effective modification is to cut the circuit traces on the PCB and install switches to allow you turn off each line in the data bus. Or if you really want to get nuts, you can cut all 8 traces and install a socket/jack to each side of each cut trace (total of 16 jacks) and then freely scramble the 8 data lines however you want. I did this to a PSS-170 and it's wicked! It gets pretty gnarly sometimes, but often results in very playable and pleasant alien timbres. If you're interested in trying it on your YM-chipped Yamaha keyboard, just look for the data sheet for your particular YM chip and find the pin-outs for the 8 data lines.
@MrROTD
@MrROTD 8 жыл бұрын
Add some guitar effects pedals and the possibilities are nearly endless
@TheSdzisuaf
@TheSdzisuaf 4 жыл бұрын
You won my heart with SQ3 main theme! 0:25 for trip to the childhood. Thanks!
@DiodeMilliampere
@DiodeMilliampere 9 жыл бұрын
YO if you like controlling OPL2 you should check out adlib tracker and control OPL3!
@holdengreen8793
@holdengreen8793 7 жыл бұрын
Diode Milliampere yo
@GrahamMilkdrop
@GrahamMilkdrop 8 жыл бұрын
I had a PSS-470 and a PSS-780... both are now collectable. I had hours and hours of fun with those as a teenager...
@mutedsounds2k
@mutedsounds2k 5 жыл бұрын
How funny that Yamaha used Yamaha chips for its own keyboards...
@stevebez2767
@stevebez2767 5 жыл бұрын
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@topsecret1837
@topsecret1837 6 жыл бұрын
So this was the beginning of 8 Bit Keys... cool. Gonna binge watch them all.
@edherdman9973
@edherdman9973 5 жыл бұрын
What video cards (even in 2015) are still emulating CGA / EGA modes for compatibility? I don't think the pixel clock goes low enough to drive those signals...
@stevebez2767
@stevebez2767 5 жыл бұрын
sbc,besides,mac,raspi...billions of mainframe terminal busses of supercomp data centers,stalleites round mars, trains,busses,kiosks,etc etc,puggy cell,eh...yes pixel yuh say
@BWPT.
@BWPT. 5 жыл бұрын
The PSS-470 was my first keyboard, got it for xmas back in '86 and still have it. Also managed to pick up a PSS-460 on the way too, pretty much the same thing.
@deadmallmusic
@deadmallmusic 5 жыл бұрын
Me too! I got my first keyboard, a PSS-460, in 1986 and still have it. Good little keyboards
@crimsun7186
@crimsun7186 8 жыл бұрын
Van Halen most likely used an Oberheim synth for Jump.
@ischmidt
@ischmidt 8 жыл бұрын
OB-X on the record, OB-Xa on tour, IIRC.
@5roundsrapid263
@5roundsrapid263 7 жыл бұрын
Ian Schmidt Rush used it, also. "Subdivisions" has that synth all over it. Queen used it, too. "I Want to Break Free" has a solo with it.
@ischmidt
@ischmidt 7 жыл бұрын
I'm very aware of Rush's usage - it's all over Moving Pictures and Signals. And most of Styx's hits were Oberheim-powered as well.
@Ba1k3n
@Ba1k3n 6 жыл бұрын
Love your music videos now and always, cool that you have a Soundblaster in a Keyboard. Honestly though I could listen to you play music all day.
@TheBcoolGuy
@TheBcoolGuy 7 жыл бұрын
I wonder if my Samsung Galaxy S4 emulates that Yamaha chip.
@Frostfly
@Frostfly 7 жыл бұрын
I love that you feature the Ultima games....First game i ever purchased was ultima 3 and they were a highlight of my computer life growing up. Thanks for the memories.
@LegoWormNoah101
@LegoWormNoah101 5 жыл бұрын
The captions are very screwed up. It says English, but it's either Spanish or French!
@kozegwaard2264
@kozegwaard2264 8 жыл бұрын
Oh man, hearing the SQ3 theme took me way back! Like how you make this informative even for people who are that not much into hardware.
@davejanssens7490
@davejanssens7490 8 жыл бұрын
Hey man, i love your videos. You should do a review of Windows 1.0 Hope you reply
@party4keeps28
@party4keeps28 Жыл бұрын
I had that same keyboard he introduces at 1:44. My parents probably have it in their attic somewhere. I did notice my keyboard sounded a lot like some of the computer games I had, and now I know why.
@guts2048
@guts2048 Жыл бұрын
Keep it it's getting more expensive and rare
@party4keeps28
@party4keeps28 Жыл бұрын
@@guts2048 Next time I talk to my mom I'll ask her if she has it somewhere. I know she's held onto a lot of my childhood stuff so I wouldn't be surprised.
@guts2048
@guts2048 Жыл бұрын
@@party4keeps28 best of luck
@whatsf2
@whatsf2 8 жыл бұрын
1:21 COMIC SANSSS
@theLuigiFan0007Productions
@theLuigiFan0007Productions 7 жыл бұрын
I can't see that font without thinking of Sans from Undertale. XD
@lancer6643
@lancer6643 4 жыл бұрын
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@aleksavasic2612
@aleksavasic2612 Жыл бұрын
What is wrong with comic sans (if it's readable, that makes up for the ugliness).
@karlhaese7183
@karlhaese7183 5 жыл бұрын
The PSS-460 without those hideous orange, green and violet buttons, was my first keyboard, then I upgraded to the PSS-560 with PCM drums. Got me to program serious FM sounds on my DX100 and DX11. Really inspired me to delve deep into FM!
@pesokpesok
@pesokpesok 8 жыл бұрын
the extreme closeup of your face makes me a bit uncomfortable since it is literally life sized on my 34" UltraWide screen:) Move back a bit guy! P.S. Still glad i found your channel since i also appreciate and interested in old computer tech. Wish you had more videos though - keep up a good work!
@jelpy
@jelpy 8 жыл бұрын
Pesok lol
@GamesFromSpace
@GamesFromSpace 8 жыл бұрын
He would look like Zordon on my 144" projection screen.
@GhostyOcean
@GhostyOcean 7 жыл бұрын
he has another channel, 8-bit keys. it's all about old keyboards
@GhostyOcean
@GhostyOcean 7 жыл бұрын
he has another channel, 8-bit keys. it's all about old keyboards
@Domarius64
@Domarius64 7 жыл бұрын
Louis Move back a bit? Maybe he should move back 8 bits? :D
@sebastianelsasser8128
@sebastianelsasser8128 8 жыл бұрын
This channel is awesome! It really gets me fascinated about how that good old technology from the 80s and 90s worked. Amazing!
@mitchmatthiesen5845
@mitchmatthiesen5845 9 жыл бұрын
@ The iBookGuy The Yamaha PSS-360, PSS-370, VSS-30, VSS-100, and VSS-200 seem to be based on the Yamaha YM-3812, because they are based on similar FM synthesis.
@The8BitGuy
@The8BitGuy 9 жыл бұрын
+Cheryl Matthiesen It's possible. I can't find any information on them that definitely answers that question. I think somebody would have to attain one and disassemble it to be sure. Lots of Yamaha keyboards used FM synthesis, but not all of them used the YM-3812.
@therealdeal6659
@therealdeal6659 9 жыл бұрын
+The 8-Bit Guy Why did you rename your channel?
@The8BitGuy
@The8BitGuy 9 жыл бұрын
+SutorippuDotCom The PSS-100 is already documented as having a YM3427 synth chip.
@Barnaby71
@Barnaby71 8 жыл бұрын
+The 8-Bit Guy Hey, You know what's cool? You have the same glasses as me XD.
@YannisAggelakos
@YannisAggelakos 8 жыл бұрын
+Mitch Matthiesen read here: www.dtech.lv/techarticles_yamaha_chips.html
@jorgerezg4068
@jorgerezg4068 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent tutorial! teh 80 decade was the best in hardware..music..!!! Cheers from Argentina!!
@Magnymbus
@Magnymbus 5 жыл бұрын
Sees the empty walls. "Holy $#!+, this is an old video!" Checks description. "Yep... 2015"
@sam64evo
@sam64evo 8 жыл бұрын
i love old tech and keyboards is one of them love how you record keyboards at high quality really shows how great thay still sound after all them years now you are making me want Soundblaster now :)
@basicforge
@basicforge 8 жыл бұрын
Cool video, but wouldn't it be more accurate to call them Adlib keyboards? The SoundBlaster was more than a music card.
@BertGrink
@BertGrink 8 жыл бұрын
A bit off-topic, but are you the Liberty Basic/FreeBasic guy? If you are, I've been using FreeBasic for some years, just for various small hobby projects, and i think it's great.
@basicforge
@basicforge 8 жыл бұрын
Hi, yeah I'm the Liberty BASIC guy (also Just BASIC and Run BASIC), but not FreeBasic. :-)
@BertGrink
@BertGrink 8 жыл бұрын
oh yes, sorry, i got my wires crossed, i DID actually mean JustBasic. I hope i didn't offend you, i certainly didn't mean to. One of my projects was an emulator for the Texas Instruments TI Programmable 57, which progressed quite nicely until i started on the calculating engine, at which point i realised that i didn't have enough information about the inner workings of the calculator chip. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted, and hopefully one day i'll be able to continue :) Thanks for your reply, and greetings from Denmark.
@basicforge
@basicforge 8 жыл бұрын
Hi, no offense taken at all. :-) Have you had a look at Run BASIC? It's a super easy web programming system.
@BertGrink
@BertGrink 8 жыл бұрын
Yes i did take a look at it a year ago or so, but to be honest, i'm kind of an old school guy who perfers programming in the old-fashioned way ;)
@madfzr
@madfzr 4 жыл бұрын
Mindblown! I remember those late 80s early 90s sound blaster adlib days PSS-470 is dope
@rootvalue
@rootvalue 5 жыл бұрын
The “English” captions for this video are in Spanish or Portuguese?
@emojisafadodozap5960
@emojisafadodozap5960 5 жыл бұрын
Spanish
@rootvalue
@rootvalue 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t think this guy gives a fuck about his audience
@stevebez2767
@stevebez2767 5 жыл бұрын
HEY en-gb includes alphabet & all symbols used by thise if that then,if yer continually singuluzing like info using you inkine lie line singsong nags yooz iff too no note why dint yer kniw watt dont travel2av c key ream direct as discussed that after encryption with that synchronic whole mass media why no theres not loonys zombie wandering trance but if yooz insys'niw-wot-r-we qui manuals play place fuck art ling gone 'key if c'computers knows?
6 жыл бұрын
Love this! Those were amazing times of discovery. Look forward to your music channel.
@TheTrollik75
@TheTrollik75 8 жыл бұрын
Yamaha is the greatest music instrument maker! I have Yamaha Clavinova and Pacifica guitar. I feel obliged to tell everybody: Yamaha is the best.
@MaesterPeemore
@MaesterPeemore 8 жыл бұрын
k
@yoianrhodes
@yoianrhodes 8 жыл бұрын
wow that's a huge statement... I'm not so sure about that.
@nos1000100
@nos1000100 8 жыл бұрын
maybe in keyboards but for guitars. i think gibson and ibanez are the best
@TheTrollik75
@TheTrollik75 8 жыл бұрын
Oddball gamer Of course gibson, ibanez, fender etc. are the best about guitars but Yamaha is still in the bussiness.
@MrTrollinglol
@MrTrollinglol 8 жыл бұрын
ibanez? Not martin or something?
@klausb.7505
@klausb.7505 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks 4 showing all the gr8 Stuff, which we missed as kids ! keep it up !
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