Advanced Diploma vs BTech and the NDip

[@ethanpillay7628]

I completed my N6 (electrical) - I want to get my advanced diploma, I have to do it part time as I'm currently working. Where can I study? And secondly, how long will it take to complete it? Thanks in advance.

[@solomonngwenya767]

Hi Zanele, Please compare Adv. Diploma vs B-Tech Vs B-Eng Tech, and also what would you recommend for a N.Dip holder between Advanced diploma and B-Eng Tech. Please take note that it will take 2 more years if a technician enrolls for a B-Eng Tech as opposed to one more year for an Advanced Diploma. With everything considered, I don't know which of the 2 would be the most beneficial to me since I have a National Diploma.

[@solomonngwenya767]

Also can you explain if one can be employed abroad with these qualifications (B-Eng tech, Adv. Dip, B-Tech).

[@khomotsophukubje9127]

@@solomonngwenya767 SA is a signatory of what are known as the Washington accord and the Dublin accord. Read up on them. These accords basically allow SA engineering degrees, and diplomas, to be recognized internationally by other countries that are signatories of these accords as well

[@khomotsophukubje9127]

For a national diploma holder: an Advanced diploma can be done part time. So if you are working, this might be a good idea for educational progression. A BEng Tech is currently only offered full time. So if you are working, it may not work out. After obtaining advanced diploma or BEng Tech, one may progress onto a BEng Tech honors in some institutions such as UNISA and UJ or Post graduate diploma in some institutions such as VUT, which can be done part time

[@solomonngwenya767]

@@khomotsophukubje9127 thank you so much for the information, I wanted to understand the difference of ratings in terms employment in the industry, for instance, who's more likely to be employed between the two qualifications

[@molepakay]

I have got a National N Diploma plus GCC Factories(Mechanical Eng) and I have been advised to apply for my admission to Adv Dip through RPL process @UNISA. I have completed and sent all the necessary documents and I'm waiting for their response.

[@freddymokoto6751]

How’s it brother. I’m on the same journey but Electrical. Busy with in service training to get my Nated Diploma. I also want to apply for the adv dip at unisa once I’m done. Would be nice to know how it goes with your application

[@mashudumudau]

@@freddymokoto6751sure bro, did you qualify for advance diploma at unisa?

[@khomotsophukubje9127]

Great content Zanele! Loved it!

[@sibusisovezi1783]

I get that students currently doing their N-Diploma can advance to Advance Diploma, I assume that is for students explicitly doing an N-Diploma; so what does this mean for those of us who are doing N4 - N6, do we still get the N-Diploma after 2 years of post grad work experience or do we get the advance diploma. Also does the National Higher Diploma get phased out too.

[@zanelenkomo]

National N Diploma is at NQF level 6 (having completed nated courses up to N6), as are the Diploma or Advanced Certificate. One would have to study further towards a Bachelors Degree in a related field or Advanced Diploma which are at NQF Level 7. The aligned framework is now (NQF 5-7): Bachelor’s Degree (360 credits) NQF level 7 Bachelor of Education (480 credits) NQF level 7 National Diploma (360 credits) NQF level 6 Diploma (360 credits) NQF level 6 Diploma (240 credits) NQF level 6 National Higher Certificate (120 credits) NQF level 5 Higher Certificate (120 credits) NQF level 5

[@liciushindjou4224]

@@zanelenkomo Good day Zanele, I am actually an inmate in Namibia doing my BTEC Level 3 NDiploma can you please tell me more about this qualification from UK.

[@alexurwand9004]

Hi Zanele, Plz can Unisa provide an extra time extension maybe for 2years to either national diploma or BTech due to the pandemic covid illness that took over 2years for things to be stabilized. This will be greatly appreciated

[@robtop1641]

Thank you so much for the clarity. You should take Mr Nzimandes job hahaha 🤣

[@givenxolani1517]

Thank you for information

[@bogosimakgale3833]

but now what is I have to apply for a job outside of South Africa would they recognize the differences in the qualification??

[@El_Chicco]

After completing your N6 along with the inservice training, what are the minimum requirements to applying for BEng or Btech?

[@khomotsophukubje9127]

Sometimes institutions have slightly different criteria. It would be best to consult the one that you are interested in

[@ZakBux-j2l]

Is nated diploma recognized internationally

[@princediago8679]

Can you please explain the Beng Tech hons qualification!

[@khomotsophukubje9127]

It's a NQF level 8 qualification after the B. Tech or Advanced diploma

[@renejoubert3873]

Is the Advanced diploma in Australia the same level as the one in South Africa? (Advanced Diploma in Industrial automation through EIT)

[@IreneThomas]

Not sure whether I should do an advanced diploma or a BEng

[@modisaotsileraymond8946]

Same here. With which institution are you currently doing your Diploma?

[@khomotsophukubje9127]

Depends on your interests, abilities and where you would like to go with your career. Advanced diploma qualifies you as a technician/technologist. A BEng qualifies you as an engineer.

[@shakeeledwards1238]

Hi Zanele, are there any intuitions that you know of that offers advance diploma online/correspondence? After research on my side I am yet to find a place to offer this. Course: Civil Engineering

[@annieagabu1406]

CPUT

[@thembelanizondi981]

Hi Zanele, so now that Btech has been phased out. What happens to those who still have outstanding modules for the Btech......do they start from scratch with Advanced Diploma or will they be credited the modules

[@khomotsophukubje9127]

Some universities are still offering the Btech until 2023, only for those who had registered for Btech in 2019

[@lethud4133]

Hey, I have an advanced diploma and it is not recognized as a degree in China. I applied there for the Epik program and I was told I need to have a Bachelor's degree even though they're both on NQF Level 7. I was even told that I would get hired if I had a btech but not an advanced Diploma meaning Btech is better than advanced Diploma. My question is, do you know of any university's in SA that I can convert my advanced diploma into a degree? Thank you in advance.

[@solomonngwenya767]

Thanks for your question hey, so helpful as i'm a N.Dip holder and I was debating on whether to do B-Eng Tech or advanced diploma .

[@khomotsophukubje9127]

If your advanced diploma is an engineering one, I think your best bet would be to do a BEng Tech honors. An advanced diploma qualifies you to be accepted into that program. I know UNISA has it. UJ possibly has it as well.

[@A---AbhirajParmar]

I am planning to pursue my advanced diploma in mechanical engineering in canada , would i be able to apply for masters directly after course or not?

[@nomkhithas7752]

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[@clementpetersen9606]

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[@SAMINUHAMISU-zv5di]

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[@uphokodevelopmentprojectsp1198]

How possible is it to move from a N.Dip Eng to a Bsc Eng part-time while working ?

[@lukealadeen7836]

Not possible at the moment. NEng is full time and theory heavy

[@vinnidavinci3932]

Will the advanced diploma be recognized in the US?

[@zanelenkomo]

They have Advanced Diplomas outside of SA - Yes!

[@mapasekaseleso5910]

@@zanelenkomo Does a person holding an advanced diploma stand the equal recognition as the one holding B-tech or bechelor's degree? Especially internationally? Do they hold the exact same value?

[@lukealadeen7836]

@@mapasekaseleso5910 Yes they do

[@khomotsophukubje9127]

@@mapasekaseleso5910 all three are at NQF level 7 according to SAQA. Advanced Diploma is replacing the Btech which is being phased out. Although Btech, Adv diploma and B. Eng are equivalent at NQF7, they are not necessarily equal. Having a BEng makes you a qualified graduate engineer. Having a B.Tech or Adv. Diploma makes you a graduate technologist. In the workplace, the two don't necessarily always do the same thing, although sometimes their functions may overlap

[@floydthangwane5763]

With a BTech one can do Masters after completing a few bridging modules

[@elainepillay8525]

Do u know how many years it would take to go from diploma to BSc?

[@khomotsophukubje9127]

@@elainepillay8525 normally SA universities don't credit you for a diploma. You do the full course. You start afresh. I know of UP that can credit you with the first year of BEng, if you have a B. Tech. Last time I checked, university of Stellenbosh can credit you up to the 2nd year of B.Eng if you have a B. Tech

[@mturawa]

If you have a BTech, you can do a BEngTech Honours (NQF Level 8) which generally takes one year and then do Masters.

[@fromthesouthofafrica6815]

@@khomotsophukubje9127 Does Stellenbosch recognise Advanced Diplomas as well to qualify for second year?

[@zenzokubeka2075]

Good content, but please try not to speak very fast and lower the background music.

[@zanelenkomo]

Thank you for the feedback 😊

[@molefirammoledishatty3413]

I'm currently studying diploma in Mechanical Engineering, can I study BSC in Mechanical Engineering?

[@khomotsophukubje9127]

If you meet the minimum acceptance criteria, you may do so but you normally won't be credited anything that you have done so far in your diploma. You will be starting afresh

[@arnoldkabuya5969]

What is the minimum number of credits required to graduate from the Advanced diploma in general? Does it vary from institution to institution or is it standardized?

[@zanelenkomo]

Advanced Diploma is NQF 7 , 120 credits

[@freddymokoto6751]

144 credits at Unisa.

[@tebohomathe3462]

@@freddymokoto6751 how come people do it in 1 year but unisa doesn't allow people to register 6 modules?

[@dariandavies2768]

Hi, currently I am 3 modules short of completing my BTech and was planning on resuming next year. Will BTech still be offered in 2023? If not, will I be able to study an Advanced Diploma and be credited the modules passed in my Btech course?

[@mositoonafrica8299]

Can an N.Dip do a BEng Tech?

[@kgee3605]

Yes.

[@freddymokoto6751]

How long is the advanced diploma course in engineering?

[@khomotsophukubje9127]

12 months if you pass all your subjects. And of course Entry requirement for advanced diploma is a diploma

[@prudencelove3869]

Is it advisable for someone doing NDip to go into Beng?

[@lukealadeen7836]

No I would rather do BTech

[@khomotsophukubje9127]

There's a number of factors to consider. Firstly I would say, your academic abilities. Secondly, where you would like to go with your career. The theoretical content and complexity of a BEng is not the same as a N. Dip. The N. Dip is two years theory and 12 months service training. The BEng is four years theory.

[@sbongakonkesbongah1798]

Is a diploma worth it?

[@kevinhart8609]

Of course.

[@khomotsophukubje9127]

Absolutely. Depends on what you want to do with your life and also in the environment you find yourself in. I know people who have a National Diploma in different fields of Engineering earning very well in mines and smelters industries. And in many cases, they earn the same or more than some engineers who are in other environments

[@johnngoyi6679]

Why are ignoring some other question or comments ?

[@zanelenkomo]

Hello, let me know which question in particular - I try to get to as many comments as I can

[@johnngoyi6679]

I liked to know if universities of technology can credit National N Diploma holder to further to advance diploma. Thanks

[@khomotsophukubje9127]

@@johnngoyi6679 yes they can

[@FutBrix1096]

I see no difference between the BTech and Advanced National Diploma....except more theory that ventures more into more Math,going more into the Traditional Degree realm..why?...the lectures or people applying this new system .are the same administrators...who are more academics than people who have extensive practical experience in any Engineering field.