ADVANCED LAND NAVIGATION: NEVER GET LOST AGAIN

[@GruntProof]

Outstanding!

[@Rickflairshair]

Top, it’s been a very long time since I did any terrain association/map reading. This is such great education. So glad I found your channel.

[@STOKERMATIC]

Thanks Kyle!!

[@kullcraven]

Very good job, thanks for the video. :)

[@STOKERMATIC]

Man I appreciate that! Thank you. 🥃🍺

[@Passikoadhivasana]

Thank you that was awesome 😎👍

[@belayasmert9943]

1SG once again top-notch tutorial. Thank you for the time you spend, on making these videos

[@STOKERMATIC]

Thank you!!

[@radiationraven]

“Don’t try this at home…” If I were at home, I wouldn’t NEED this video! Then again, I only feel at home when I am as close to lost as possible. ❤️

[@STOKERMATIC]

hehehehe - so true!

[@justindunlap1235]

Great video and greetings from the dry side of the state.

[@MA-lq6eb]

NICE NAVIGATION VIDEO👍 KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK BRO & I'LL KEEP SUPPORTING YOUR CHANNEL...THANK U 4 UR SERVICE AS WELL!

[@STOKERMATIC]

Thank you!

[@Stone-Wolf-Outdoors]

great info i am loving these vids i learn a lot from some and a great refresh from others thank you :)

[@STOKERMATIC]

Right on!

[@rickm4295]

That is one gorgeous rock dude !! Helluva place to get lost , lol. Ive learned a lot from your vids so far. Especially plotting on the map with the protractor. Ive had to watch them a couple times but its right there for me.....thanks a lot. sub'd and bell'd

[@STOKERMATIC]

Right on Rick! Thanks for hanging out and glad the content is helping!

[@Sara-L]

Thanks for sharing! Your observations made it easy to follow along on Google maps to within a reasonable amount of accuracy - plus or minus 25 feet or so.

[@STOKERMATIC]

Right on Sara! Stay Stoked!

[@louiemorris9598]

Great video that's why I only buy analog watches to help find direction. I do mine a little different I shoot back azimuth. Both ways work great. Another tool in the toolbox. Keep the videos coming brother.

[@STOKERMATIC]

Thanks brother! Great to be able to use analog methods!

[@DannyKlaus-i6p]

I would you convert the magnetic degrees to grid degrees with the declination diagram?

[@chiosmet]

Thank you for your practical navigation course application which makes it simple for the"common man".My only question is this: Shouldn't we compensate for the magnetic declination for the transformation of magnetic azimuths to grid ones?Thank you in advance for your efforts and knowledge given through your courses.A fan from Greece.

[@STOKERMATIC]

Most definitely! Depending on where you are and the distance it can make all the difference in the world. The map I had had almost illegible and while I probably should have said something about it, I opted not too. Thanks for your generous words and Hope all is well on your side of the pond! Stoker

[@richtxn47]

On a (U S ARMY) military map, you have the declination diagram printed in the margin. It's there, just look for it.

[@timharig]

0:28 I've never really seen the advantage to having intro's to videos on KZbin -- much less having two. But, if you are going to do it, do it right by normalizing the audio with the rest of the video so you don't blow our eardrums out or force us to keep adjusting the volume. 17:12 I wonder if you have any tips for erasing on maps. I've gotten in the habit of doing my plotting mathematically rather than actually drawing on the map so that I don't tear them up very quickly. 18:17 If I had a reference point as prominent on the horizon as Mount Rainier is on your horizon, I would definitely have it's grid location and altitude recorded so that I could use it as a reference point -- even if it was not on my local map. 18:22 Actually, if circumstances permit, it is possible to get a position fix from a single reference point. You just have to be able to be able to measure your distance from that point. The distance and azimuth relative to that point will uniquely identify your location. The point just has to be close enough for the angles to vary enough to achieve acceptable accuracy. If you know the height/altitude of the reference point than you can measure it's distance using an inclinometer (which is easy to improvise) or by measuring its apparent height against a ruler at a known distance from your eye. If you do not know the height, then you could take a azimuth, walk a known distance perpendicular to the first azimuth, and then take a second azimuth.The parallax between the two azimuth's taken at a known distance apart can be used to calculate the distance to the reference point. There is a large section of national forest near to where I live that makes a convenient location to spend a lot of time hiking when I do not have the time to travel. During the great depression, the CCC installed a 100ft fire lookout tower on the highest hill within the section.The forest service has not manned the station in years; but, it is still quite visible for many miles from the high points within the national forest section. Knowing the dimensions of the parts of the tower, I can accurately fix my position throughout much of the section by the lookout tower using the azimuth from my compass and the distance measured using the reticle markings on my rifle scope.

[@STOKERMATIC]

Cool story about the tower Tim - thanks for sharing so much!

[@TheFreedomCast]

For the triangulation, do you have to add the G-M angle since you're converting magnetic to grid?

[@STOKERMATIC]

I was so stoked about this one, until I realized I didn't mention declination.....such an egg head...but yes - every time you go from compass to map, you gotta convert.

[@Yasharala_Unidos]

holy shit ur almost in my back yard!!!!

[@Rickflairshair]

Hey Top, this resection method you used is the straightedge method right? To use map and compass ( which you didnt have) you would have to use 2-3 points, then find azmuth and subtract and add to and from 180 to locate spot on map? Can you go over that on a video?

[@STOKERMATIC]

I can try to find a better location - but what you saw was resection. Rather than use two fixed points I could identify on the map, I used a natural terrain feature and use the two edges to work an azimuth from them to me. I can work up something more classic though.

[@Rickflairshair]

STOKERMATIC: no worries man. It’s just there is so much that I have forgotten and when I start seeing your videos, I start remembering some details and its kinda sporatic. But please keep on with the awesome info. Your troops must be proud to have you as their 1SGT

[@shayarhashim7567]

Hello, can you just use your compass without the protractor? I mean you convert it and then use the side of the compass and move until you hit the point and draw a line?

[@STOKERMATIC]

You can but it’s not going to be accurate unless your using a baseplate compass.

[@rickm4295]

This was super cool man...I bet your wife doesnt say "stop and ask for directions" to you !!!

[@STOKERMATIC]

So true! Hehehehe

[@action55jackson]

You plotted mag azimuths onto your grid w/o accounting for declination?

[@TacticalRick507]

1sg, have a question. Why are you the only person on youtube who actually gives more than just pointers? I mean most vids will explain just enough to put you in a 5 digit grid, (yes I know there is no such thing. I am referring to the content of the video. It seems that ppl will only give generalizations of ideas. Not walk through processes to the end. Thereby leading to an incomplete understanding, and often false confidence) that's why your channel is programmed into my DAGGER. it has 10 digits for your channel, and book marked under "actual learning". Keep it up 1sg. Mad props.

[@STOKERMATIC]

I dunno amigo...just glad I can, and hope it helps others along the way. Stoked it resonates!

[@petermarchi1935]

How do you use the site of a military compass To determine height and distance?

[@STOKERMATIC]

There is no inclinometer on a lensatic to determine height. On a map, there is a 1:50 scale. I suppose you could use some algebra as well.

[@alphacharliedelta7470]

Why u didn't use to declination diagram?

[@disgruntled181]

I'm going to assume you ate every wild mushroom you saw before and during this! Lol good tutorial though! 👍

[@STOKERMATIC]

👊

[@rexcure655]

Good video.I have a question.I'm trying to mark out and document an old railroad grade built in 1890 about 45 miles long.Michigan's UP mostly on Timber Co. owned lands.Where there are rock cuts it's obvious but start going through some of the low lands and river crossings you can still make it out barely.What is a good way to mark it on the ground with out being to obvious.Being on timber land sections of trees could be cut at anytime.

[@STOKERMATIC]

Rex, what an awesome project! Sounds pretty interesting. Flags and engineer tape are go to’s. But issue would be if they are messed with. Could use a stake in the ground or use GPS to set waypoints.

[@rexcure655]

@@STOKERMATIC Okay,thanks.Ive already set the waypoints with a GPS.Maybe I can stake out the open areas and machete a path through the thicker bush.

[@twhite19782012]

When taking compass bearings for resection, wouldn't you need to account for declination?

[@STOKERMATIC]

Trevor, I definitely should have at least mentioned declination and considerations for when you should take it into account or when it’s not a big deal....sounds like inspiration for a future video! Thank you!

[@twhite19782012]

@@STOKERMATICthat would be amazing! I'm just trying to piece together Land Nav from the MANY you tube videos that are out there. There is another older you tuber that is instructing people to just draw declination lines on their maps to make the whole thing easier...which yeah I suppose it would but he's also saying that you'd not have to ever mess with it again. I believe that to be a false statement. Doesn't the declination change a little bit each year? In my area it changes about a half a degree which in a short amount of time over somewhat long distances that could really get a person lost. Or am I getting that wrong? Regardless I and I'm sure everyone out there is very grateful of the instruction that people put out there to help teach us something new! Thanks man!!!

[@STOKERMATIC]

Trevor, it does change all the time. If concerned I’d use a baseplate, as you can preset it and not have to worry about converting at all. 10 degrees off will put you around 177 meters off after traveling 1,000 meters. While that is a lot, the odds of that actually happening is slim to nil - plenty of natural markers to push us in the right direction Challenge accepted! I’ll work on a declination video! Hope the content is helpful.

[@twhite19782012]

@@STOKERMATIC thank you for that! I do have a couple compasses with declination but I also have the Cammenga 3H lensatic without any declination settings so if I use that I'll have to accomodate for it. One thing that has confused me was the true north and Grid north. Mostly I got confused due to an old military training video that stated to use grid north vs. magnetic north when doing the declination calculation. I noticed everyone else referring to Magnetic vs True north for the declination calculation. That might be worth mentioning in your update video if you make one. Thanks for your help Sir!

[@cabeith]

​@@twhite19782012 I'm pretty sure you'll want magnetic north and grid north. It's my understanding that true north is fairly irrelevant when dealing with declination adjustments. But double check that cause I'm fairly new to land nav myself.

[@twocyclediesel1280]

Great video but there’s no need to tilt the sight wire down and the lens forward. All you’re doing is shortening the sight radius and hurting accuracy. Sight wire should be at 90 degrees and lens tilted all the way back, as stated in the Lensatic instructions.

[@mehGyver]

Do you have a link to where you print your own maps from?

[@STOKERMATIC]

Great timing JR! New content dropping today on ordering, making, and printing your own maps!

[@mehGyver]

@@STOKERMATIC Awesome! I'm planning to set up a geocaching-type game at a nearby park for my 9yr old son to practice his compass and pacing skills. Would like a printable map wit grid lines to work from. Thanks.

[@TacticalRick507]

Love the intro brother. And your right I used to do SAR. You would be amazed ( well maybe not You, but most would be amazed at how often Emergency Services are needed. And the time has alot to do with the status of how we would find a person or group. Especially in the desert. Lot of disgusting finds]. But anyway, I can tell you what KZbin and Prince Humperdinck have in common. Neither sent notices they promised to send. Not the four fastest ships, nor the fastest notification. So I unsubbed and re-subbed and redid the bell. And now am getting notified. So that's a simple fix. But you may want to check if your views have dropped.

[@STOKERMATIC]

Hope it works! Yeah, I don’t know about my viewership, I’d think there should be more but, it is what it is I guess. Lol. I can imagine the stuff out in the desert! Whew!!

[@georgehartwig1865]

My battery is going to run out following you than I’m lost also 😳

[@STOKERMATIC]

🤣🥃🤣

[@marktownsley1171]

I have to laugh Brother, we used to use the term "book it" when we were lads. 😎

[@STOKERMATIC]

Right on!

[@TacticalRick507]

Now let's go back to fort lewis and get to work.

[@zachaliles]

Don't try this at home. I'm going to Letchworth state park tomorrow to try this. So it's not at home, haha. Fortunately I have a topo map that covers the whole area, haha. I actually had to do exactly this two or three days ago. My GPS was acting up and I had no idea where I was, Lima Lima Mike Foxtrot. Walked until I found train tracks, oriented my map and walked till I found another feature. Kept track of my pace and triangulated my position. Probably within about 50M. Got me close enough and found my way back. I was a bit too quick on making this comment, I used pace count and terrain features to find where I was the other day. But I've had to do this method in the past during land nav training in the service too. Works really well if you read your azimuth right.

[@STOKERMATIC]

Awesome stuff! So many ways to figure out where we are if we keep our wits about us! Appreciate your service and thanks for sharing your time and your story!

[@zachaliles]

@@STOKERMATIC exactly. Like you said in your video, calm down and keep your wits about you. Not exactly what you said, but close enough. So many mistakes are made from not staying calm.

[@dma67111]

Man went and intentionally got lost to shoot a vid lol

[@STOKERMATIC]

I do what I can.

[@TacticalRick507]

Legal disclaimers mean better vids.

[@STOKERMATIC]

I do what I can!

[@TacticalRick507]

Topo would be cheating...... lol nothing like saying, I could have but that would be just soooooo easy.

[@StevenSiew2]

Buy a god damn hiking GPS. Even a secondhand 25 year old GPS will tell you where you are!!! It may take 6 minutes to get a fix but hey it's more accurate than DEAD reckoning.

[@STOKERMATIC]

That's a way.

[@ravenflight88]

hey are you still doing this? that's some really simple common sense stuff, now for those that generally get lost they don't have a map or a compass, so what's the solution for that. what if you lost your map or your compass or any number of stupid human things happens 😂 now what?