Advanced Mogul skiing Movements, explanation and visuals

[@michaelobrien2190]

Thanks! You are amazing. I've been watching ski videos for a while and somehow never saw any of your videos. They are superlative! So so so helpful. Thanks for these.

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Love it. Spread the word😉

[@deets29mtb53]

This has been a phenomenal last few days! Short, sweet and very instructional! Much love to you and Bobby thank so much for giving valuable information for free!

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[@cpalmedo]

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[@prospervandale8374]

deb, each of your videos has progressed my skiing more than days skiing hard on the mountain have. the technical explinations help me visualize everything like a thousand times better. you truly are a gift to the skiing community!

[@laglider]

Just a few main points, short and sweet, great demos and super camera work, absolutely loved it!

[@PaulPlaceway]

Wow, okay, I finally saw the movements that you and he are talking about by slowing down the video to 0.25 for those runs. Thanks so much; this is really helpful!

[@dougsheldon8970]

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[@dougsheldon8970]

@@oldskier3019 my head is spinning. Take a breath

[@bobdavis2689]

Yes, slomo ! And not only could I see the retraction, absorption up and back with the feet, but also that knees are bent almost all the time. I never saw a straight leg.

[@cjtathome]

I cannot believe this is your life .....living vicariously Keep the content coming

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Thank you

[@weirdbeard1980]

I love it! That "feeling" of the tails being light. Almost like a mini nose manual

[@joem8496]

maybe one of the best little things on all of KZbin right here

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Thank you!!!!

[@tinyskier6250]

great video ... square ... very important. and i love the "and you can do that extra turn ... " keeps the rhythm going.

[@cswalker21]

Really good stuff, thanks! I think that was a really good call to get that angle from the side. That was really great to see how Bobby kept his feet under him in the sagittal plane.

[@josephgdraper]

Thanks Deb! Loving this series. Nuggets of gold!

[@paulmorin2582]

Another great video, Deb. This series with Bobby, and the previous ones you've done with him, have been especially helpful. Mogul skiing is not particularly intuitive to those who weren't instructed in it from in early age, and the detailed explanation of the movements really helps. Thanks!

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

GREAT!!!! Thank you

[@mbfromatl3499]

I agree and particularly like the discussion about foot retraction. I was out at Park City the other day trying to improve my mogul skiing and this is the tip that gave me the breakthrough I'd been trying to reach for quite a while! I found this video much more helpful than the others I've seen on mogul skiing...

[@EventPerformanceInc]

Great side camera work. It really helped show what he is doing with retraction.

[@PepperoniPapaya]

Thanks!

[@justind1793]

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[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Thanks Justin!!!! Really happy you value the content.

[@lutze.schlange8693]

Hi Deb, I love your bumps series with Bobby! Throws me right back into my preferred skiing from the 80ies & 90ies. Keep up your great work!

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Awesome!! Thank you

[@datukalex]

That side footage is so awesome!

[@chuck3456]

Thank you for posting such great content. You’ve really helped me level up my skiing over the past couple of years.

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

GREAT! glad you are benefiting from the content

[@BaoTran-eu8bn]

Same!

[@justind1793]

Me too

[@discy12345]

Mogul skiing is like overdoing what you need to do learn. Really like the tips!

[@davotravel]

Love watching your videos and can't wait to ski again in December

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Love that. Thanks David!! Take care

[@davidhalesmith2491]

Can’t stop watching. Such a good lesson. Thanks again y’all!

[@quinnjones2886]

I love the dynamic with you both building off each other

[@billa5830]

I have always loved your content on Moguls as a mogul enthusiast. I was fortunate enough to work with olympian (2010) Pierre-Alexandre Rousseau this winter. He believes foot to foot is so critical in mogul skiing that we spent an entire morning (for our one day workshop) on the flats working on that before going to the moguls. Its great to see Bobby say the exact same thing here. I know I am in good hands!

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Thanks for the comment Bill. Fantastic!

[@tinyskier6250]

now there's a great coach ... people have no idea how important off mogul training is.

[@daviddunnigan8202]

Deb absolutely still has it…great rhythm and style. Awesome and still my bucket list person to take a run with before I catch the last tram outta here:)

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Nice!!! Thank you😉

[@kkrsnn5632]

It's hip to be square ;)

[@weirdbeard1980]

Nice!!!

[@brandoniananamoondo3083]

Big smiles. Having fun on the hill. That's what it's all about.

[@MorganBrown]

I love how he’s holding the camera in one hand, straightlining that bump run. And doing a great job filming. Ridiculous

[@jordangaeth]

This is my main focus for next season, once I can ski moguls Im sure my skiing skills will be fulfilled...always improving but knowing I can ski them I'll be happy

[@stevedoe1630]

Fashionable skiers have the most current gear of the season. Good skiers have gear for utilitarian purposes (0:10, Canada 2013 sleeve, rockin’ it !!!)

[@erikdarosa659]

Another great video! I love how Bobby talks about pulling the tails back using the hamstrings and glutes. It' all aboit keeping your feet under you. 🤗🤗🤗

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

YES

[@simonwalmsley7670]

Loving this series! One day I might be able to ski moguls with a modicum of success! 😁

[@urbanrunoff]

Excellent video. Now I want to see you guys ski even more technical/advanced terrain a typical tracked out double black diamond with obstacles. Same approach with occasional double pole plant jump turn and more washing out of the tail to control speed?

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Very good. Ill see if I can get that videoed. I am not able to video everything I would like. I have very limited access to a videographer and I can not video myself. I try to video all the content I can and I will keep this request in mind!!!!

[@jackjr1]

I have fairly good foot-to-foot technique, the part that got me on moguls was the absorption part. Ever since I've been hitting jumps on the snow and working on my landings my mogul skiing has become A LOT better. I also don't fear gaining some speed on a mogul and jumping off of it a bit. I also will sometimes practice simply skiing across the fall line and absorbing the moguls(as instructed by Deb as a drill), working on my absorption technique. Working on the whole absorption thing has helped me a lot.

[@dougsheldon8970]

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[@jackjr1]

@@dougsheldon8970 cool, looks like drills from a mogul coach

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Ya, in this video I show traversing in the moguls to learn absorption. Have fun!!!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/laqulq1ogpp6atk

[@zakingle1420]

I really love this video. I’ve must of watched it a million times now 😂

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Love it

[@filmic1]

Deb ROCKS!! being square is good...

[@annluark4104]

Looking good Deb!!! Love your enthusiasm, that big smile. Keep putting this content out there. Great reinforcement for what I’m teaching day in and day out at Beaver Creek. Swing by and make a few runs if you are in the area! 👍🏻😎⛷❤️ Ann (Harmon) from back in the day....

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Thanks Ann!!!!! Appreciate it.

[@AnonymouSRU]

ood afternoon Deb. Earlier at 2:30 you were talking about "glued" legs - which is very old school, etc. Do you mean recreational moguls riding? At the World Cup, it seems to me that everyone wets very tightly and only increases the width of the ski line when entering the jumps

[@tbotiOG]

FYI for me it was way easier to see what he’s doing following him from the back the side view was much harder to tell what he’s doing with the skis

[@elainenilsson5472]

I noticed it looked like his skis came around quite a bit. Not sure if that is called a complete turn or what. I slowed it down to .25 and watched both of you. Great video.

[@cliff6918]

Deb...Love your videos. How do you translate these movements when the bumps are not small and round but are tall and diamond shaped? I am beyond the zipper line stage of skiing moguls. Would love to see a video on icy moguls.

[@sandratessem9980]

Great video

[@rontruong]

wow I LOVE THESE VIDEOS!

[@guofuchen2308]

Great Great Video! now i have a lot better understanding how the body parts align to ensure flexibility

[@rafaburdzy449]

Like it and this foot to foot drill Great!

[@mrsmartypants_1]

Deb if i randomly happened to get behind you 50 yds or so on some slope I would guess I was following a very talented 28ish-year-old woman. No BS. You have young blood coursing through those veins. Skiing is such a great sport. 😎

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Thank you Pete!!!!!

[@davidhalesmith2491]

So helpful, guys! I have a challenge of letting my pole plant hand get behind me as I pass it and this drags my shoulder back on steep turns. Any tips for hand positions with pole plants on moguls? Thank you for these GREAT videos.

[@tinyskier6250]

You have to have your hands in front of you when doing moguls, like a boxer getting ready to do short jabs ... not punch, not rearing back, like you would when punching, cause that will twist your shoulder. but like short jabs .. your hands are already out front when you jab and you have to keep them in front, pole plants are jabs, not round house punches.

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Check this video out David. I hope it helps!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZiTeYSml5qeatk

[@davidhalesmith2491]

@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong Fantastic! Thank you, Deb!

[@markdezuba]

Love it

[@stevedoe1630]

“Tight feet” and “independent feet” simultaneously seems almost contradicting. Thanks for explaining 👍 ... I will be digesting that in the off season. Any recommended drills for this?

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Ya, correct. Tight and independent are two very different things aren't they. Ya, I will put a drill video for this.

[@steveliberman3000]

Deb and Bobby, I didn't get that "lifting the tails" and "pedaling backward" thing. Could you expand on that?

[@bladereenders]

Deb, what drills can I do to learn that foot containment/backward pedal motion? I struggle to do that motion while I'm skiing unless I'm just going straight.

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Good question. I will look into that. I actually have some older footage of Bobby showing the foot containment action. I will look for that. Watch for another video. Take care

[@jeffbarrie8576]

Hi Deb, can you ask Bobby to talk about Uphill Hip Drive and the timing of it in the moguls? t's a huge part of skiing direct in the moguls. Thanks!

[@margaretreid6570]

Love it and get the foot to foot which for you both is so subtle. I am not getting the retraction. When does that happen? You are both so good, hardly notice these events :)

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

The head never mores up and down because the legs retract. At the trough or bottom of the bump the legs get long. At the top of the bump the legs get short, or absorb, or retract.

[@bobdavis2689]

And when they retract, you were pulling them up and back, so the tips will be ready to follow the next downward face, right?

[@BaoTran-eu8bn]

Amazing!

[@juliancohn7662]

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Of course and spread the word Julian.😉 And consider giving the video an applaud from your desktop or laptop Cheers!! Really glad you like the videos.

[@inkwell101]

What mountain is this? Looks like a nice gentle run to learn moguls on

[@faing4923]

This pulling back movement is trying to get the skis to stay contact with the snow, right?

[@dougsheldon8970]

Keeping your feet under u will keep u from getting in back seat and stay centered and ready for the next bump. You tube dolphin turns. They r not easy but help work on what bobby is discussing.

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Correct. How is your bump skiing coming along?

[@faing4923]

@@dougsheldon8970 yes, I've seen those evil ish dolphin turns 😁. Maybe I need to start doing my ployometric with my ski boots on. Thanks.

[@MrPeacefulness]

I'm really appreciating your videos and firmly believe they have taken my skiing to a new level. I'm a little confused about the "reverse pedal". Have I been pedaling in the wrong direction for all of these years?

[@hayleypbop]

Can only imagine the core strength it takes to be that soft AND active.

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Hi Haley, are you a skier? If so where do you ski. I am happy you found my channel. and Yes, skiing difficult conditions does take core strength and coordinated body movements. I call it "lifelong learning". Enjoy and take care.

[@hayleypbop]

@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong Hi Deb, I was very late to skiing (started at 40) and only really got into it about a year before lockdown and then became somewhat obsessed. We have a good indoor centre nearby and I get away as much as possible but the alps are the nearest to us here in London and I cancelled three trips in 2020 due to travel restrictions. It’s good to keep watching videos as a way to remain engaged and I hope it keeps the brain-body connection going. I really enjoy the variety of stuff you put on KZbin, it’s a great mix. ❤️

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

@@hayleypbop hi Hayley. So our have an i door facility near by? Wow. Keeping the mind body connection happening is very beneficial. I hope you can get back to skiing next year. Take care.

[@bruceyeremian9036]

I always find it difficult on the pulling back move when getting to the top of the bump. I think if I could grasp that feeling of pulling back instead of feeling like I’m pulling a wheely over the bump I can finally enjoy fall line through the bumps in complete control as an old guy… any drills I can use to not only sense that movement but help lock it in to muscle memory?

[@Osnosis]

Donna Weinbrecht taught me that backwards bicycle concept 20 years ago! Very cool. BTW, NEVER have your feet more than shoulder width apart. Natural stance is best.

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

natural is generally hip width. Did Bobby say shoulder? meant hip I am sure

[@Osnosis]

@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong Here, the resort teaches the 'cowboy' stance, which is WAY too wide (for so many reasons), and I believe it gets beginner/intermediate skiers in the wrong position, and with the wrong ideas. There is always the schism about separation in the vertical vs. horizontal plane. I recognize that at 60-75 mph your legs will be fairly wide coming out of a high speed turn, and almost immediately heading into another, but that's not most recreational skiers. With varying width skis and different body types, people will ski slightly differently in a 'natural' stance. You both look fantastic in the bumps; that bicycle concept is difficult to assimilate, so I teach it somewhat differently.

[@henrygonzalez3842]

Wish I could just control myself in moguls. Here in mammoth they’re everywhere and massive in some spots really annoying when you have to get through them to get to where you want to go. It’s either ski around them or over them right?

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Yep, ski around them or ski over them. Practice short turns on steep groomers. make sure you are able to make short turns exactly when you want to. Then move into the moguls

[@henrygonzalez3842]

Thanks Deb, appreciate the common sense answer. I noticed pointing my toes allowed me to turn almost exactly when I wanted the other day in a mogul field.

[@rcva000]

The one followed you took an zmazing video

[@lawrenceyoo1044]

Hopefully this message finds Deb. Thank you so much for these videos. Question: when you talk of " foot to foot" skiing, which side has more pressure on edge. For example, when turning on mogul to the left is pressure on right leg( downhill ski) or left leg? Thanks!!

[@bobdavis2689]

The pressured foot becomes your downhill ski.

[@sunvalleylaw]

Nice!

[@vrsurgeon]

It’s hip to be square, Deb.

[@PR-rh9qm]

Such fun to watch, but confusing. At about 40 s in, Bobby says like pedaling a bicycle backwards, but the motion he executes is the normal rotation for forward pedaling on a bicycle. I hope Deb and Bobby don't mind me suggesting this video, which explains the role of backpedaling in absorption: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpvPg4OtfdGZg8U Watching this frame-by-frame in slow motion shows WHEN to pull back: about the same time as you make the turn, coming out of your absorption. Also, you can see Bobby's hips push forward to make it work. So the sequence is: from home position (see Dan DiPiro's book) of standing more or less upright in the trough of the mogul, you switch weight and compress to absorb the next mogul. Now with most weight already on outside ski, execute turn while pulling back and pushing hips forward. I think if you can CONSTANTLY feel pressure on the shin and do your foot-to-foot weight shifting, that's most of it. "It's not the 70s." Indeed, but I still miss the elegance of Stein Erickson with his leather boots nominally affixed to (probably) 215-cm wooden skis, feet, and skis exactly parallel and close. Well, I guess that was the 60s, and don't forget to counter-rotate! For the 70s, there's a nice video of Jean-Claude Killy blasting through some bumpy powder. If you were on a chairlift and saw someone skiing like that today, you would still watch.

[@gregy1194]

Also loving this series but my knees say "no". 😁😁😁

[@victorskovorodnikov1150]

If moguls are high and icy with icy chunks, can I do jump turns? P.S. it sort of works.

[@kentroberts8853]

How I prep my level III candidates on a flatter mtn.... "Get in the bumps or the gates"

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Perfect

[@stevedoe1630]

3:48, Deb is a foot-to-foot gal. Everyone who know me knows I am a foot-to-mouth guy.

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

HA

[@jtwoolley]

awesome

[@rahkinrah1963]

I used to have a pair of those Scott Racers.

[@keithantonius4131]

Easy on a Green run with soft snow and perfect bumps. How about a steep slope with marginal snow and horribly cut bumps? You know, like what we see pretty much everyday.

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Where do you ski Keith?

[@keithantonius4131]

@@DebArmstrongSkiStrong Crystal Mountain, WA. You know the place well I think. Bumps on Sunnyside or Green Valley Bowl are fairly steep with Cascade Crud for snow. And cut like every one is on 140's.

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

@@keithantonius4131 AWEAOME!!! yes. I remember that well. Love it!!!

[@davidfillmore3151]

If this guy thinks his explanation for advanced mogul skiing is making sense, he's in lala land.

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

I would love to hear what you have to say about advanced mogul skiing

[@jtwoolley]

Tell him I said hello

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@eyeojo]

I understood nothing.

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

I'm sorry for you. I try to reach as many folks as I can which is why I put out such a variety of videos.. i hope i have a video out there yiu can glean a nugget from.. if not at a minimum I hope yiu fi d a bit of entertainment 😉. Happy skiing💪👍

[@josiahupton9723]

Not much of a mogul patch

[@paulmorin2582]

Super video! I applauded for $10.00 👏👏👏

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Thanks a ton Paul for supporting this channel. Really happy you appreciate the content!!! Take care.

[@paulmorin2582]

My pleasure, Deb. Thank you!!

[@halfskip1785]

Thanks!

[@southerncross201]

Super video! I applauded for $5.00 👏👏

[@DebArmstrongSkiStrong]

Thanks Raymond!! Your support goes directly into future video production. huge appreciation.