Advanced shoulder lock, Ura oni kudaki, in sparring - Ninjutsu technique for Akban wiki

[@princeigor1122]

Excellent demonstration of technique ! keep up the good work, you guys are one of the rare people who practice ninjutsu the way it should be practiced.

[@blackkoganinja5093]

this is effective unlike all others posting bad instruction. i have been training and teaching for 38yrs. thank you for your time with your tedious studies and sharing. you give hope when it is rare. your APPRECIATED:)

[@AkbanOrg]

Thanks @Edward Leffingwell

[@MVK_GS]

First of all, thank you for posting your technique on KZbin. The issue I have with this technique is that for it to work, the opponent throwing the punch must pause with his hand extended after he has thrown the punch. If one looks at frame 2:17, you can literally see the "uke" pause and look at the face of the "nage" until his arm is seized for the technique to complete. Mind you, the "nage" is already going pretty swiftly through the technique. You can see the same pause at 2:33 and so on. To me, there are scenarios where this is possible: the opponent is drunk, exhausted, or not really punching but actually "reaching" for his opponent. But, against a determined and healthy opponent who is actually throwing a combination of punches, I doubt this would be possible. Just my opinion, respectfully stated. Again, thank you for posting on KZbin - it is greatly appreciated.

[@AkbanOrg]

+Juan Perez I completely agree. Thanks

[@patricelemieux5259]

I think thats the point, to take advantage of a crucial mistake like leaving your arm in a dangerous spot for 1 second too long.

[@MVK_GS]

I believe that if this was the intention of the technique, it would have been explained that way. But, what you say is true in that it would be the only scenario where I'd see it working. So, it's not to say that it would not work. Quite the contrary, it would work, but only in the very specific situation where your opponent is tired, untrained, or hurt, and leaves the arm extended for you to grab and destroy. But, against a healthy and alert (and experienced) opponent, I don't think so.

[@mysty0]

Yes there is a semi beat missing in the count and I personally don't like moves like this in my own own arsenal. I'm actually more curious why you wouldn't just slip and uppercut like a boxer, exactly what he does here but instead of raising the arm to the outside as a block he should come straight up the inside. I'm 41yrs of age now and have a young lad I am transferring knowledge to, and in doing so I'm finding myself really stripping the junk out of martial arts. Even if I consider the Uke as a knifed attacker this move still doesn't make sense and would be potentially dangerous to Nage as blade would penetrate his abdomen in the hands of somebody skilled

[@mysty0]

Brian W you have a broken metronome! Uke throws first, Nage responds, there is a whole count missing here! Infact you are claiming Nage gets a whole beat and a half, minus the half for the disruption technique he still has a whole count somewhere in your book? Uke is in the perfect position for a spinning backhand/elbow to Nage's face with momentum on his side, if Nage is dedicated to this move he is going to wear the elbow to the side of his head and give up his back

[@skraddypoo]

I've dissed Ninjutsu as bullshido a lot in the past, and for sure a lot out there are - but this? This is THE GOOD SHIT, right here. Keep up the good work folks, you have a new believer in me.

[@geraldojunior1993]

As a Bujinkan practicioner, I do believe Yossi Shihan and others like Rob Renner and Nagato Shihan are the future of Ninjutsu. God BLESS YOU GUYS!!!!

[@AkbanOrg]

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[@CrystaTiBoha]

Oh, you are not the one that needs to do the thanking here! I learned much from the Akban wiki, the free knowledge there is wonderful. I just struggle with finding a training partner... and practicing the theory correctly. Thank you.

[@waedjradi]

He's amazing. Thanks for your advice.

[@AkbanOrg]

Thank you

[@frohnzy04]

Brilliant instruction! Thank you for the video!

[@AkbanOrg]

Thanks 🙏🏻

[@paulrodriguez1282]

Damn!!! That's just Beautiful!!! So fluid and smooth. Thanks for sharing, Sensei.

[@AkbanOrg]

Thanks, Paul

[@joshuaworman9829]

Thank you sir for the clarification. So this kata isn't just a whole thing you can use in a fight, but a string of movements that teach a principal. The first part teaches proper punch defense, the second part teaches how to transition from the armbar to the shoulder lock. If I am understanding this correctly.

[@rafikiAli]

Many years in and many more experiences of real-world conflict, confrontation, violence, and combat... I DEEPLY APPRECIATE this. While many may speak of the likely ineffectiveness of the technique, i believe in the BREATH, the TECHNIQUE, the RHYTHM, and the FLOW of LiFE and with that combat. As one evolves and masters the BREATH, the TECHNIQUE, and the RHYTHM, we should arrive at a personal level of evolutionary FLOW. NO technique works in every situation. FLOW works in EVERY situation i have ever experienced. Most often, i am able to perceive the level of my attacker's proficiency and respond with appropriate violence. However, i confess, i have NEVER been randomly attacked by someone whose skillset and proficiency has exceeded my own. Operating in FLOW is what i consider as the Martial Artist's Creative. This series of moves fits squarely in the category of the "statute of liberty" play in an American football game. It is unorthodox, should never work, and most often does! So, maybe this creative series is one that fits into your FLOW... maybe not. I am grateful for this eternal journey of the student. Arigatou gozaimasu, for sharing!

[@giovannimulas9540]

Good evening sirs , so many times i saw your techniques about locks and strikes that i think are very good for sel defense ; i started Aikido so l'ing time ago but i got Just Orange belt , i never forgot about Ikyo and Nykio but the most that i learnt Is Aiki Jutsu . Now i do mostly grappling i got First degree of White belt in Gracie Jiu Jutsu but now i got also Blue belt about Brazilian Jiu Jitsu . My favorites tutorial are tours with also Grappling Academy in United States , Knife Jiu Jitsu and a Judo Sambo Ju Jutsu Academy in United States where i saw same techniques about Brazilian Jiu Jitsu we talk about arm bar they talk about juji gatame . We all came from the ancient Ju Jutsu like : Aikido , NinJutsu , Brazilian Jiu Jitsu , Judo. Very complimenti for your techniques dear sirs about NinJutsu martial art . I please you to excuse me for my english language very cheap relative yours . Thank you very much sirs

[@AkbanOrg]

Practice safely, Giovanni, and keep on training.

[@spookz1300]

Perfekt! Thx for your technics and your explosiv way to show us your Art. Greetings from germany /Hamburg.

[@AkbanOrg]

Greetings Sir. I love Hamburg

[@danielwater282]

Thanks for this series! As a long time practitioner of Hap Ki Do I can see exactly where the techniques demonstrated here can complement my own in important ways. Yes, there are some pauses in this particular video, but the whole point of learning techniques is not to apply them mechanically but for the body to be able to adapt them spontaneously. What I particularly like in this series are the techniques for positioning the opponent for a throw using reflexes. The low kicks look very practicable. And I see Judokas use them a lot, although they are not actually allowed to punch or kick they can sweep and feign. Using Hap Ki Do wristlocks and elbow twists is almost impossible with a boxer or someone who has easy kicks. You need to get in close and then you are within range. So you need to have the moves for when you are either locked or grabbing onto something and that is when these techniques will be very effective.

[@AkbanOrg]

Thanks

[@marthaluntz1508]

I have been watching AKBAN for awhile- i like to view the various techniques and take what helps me teach.Some of techniques are complicated but doing them even slow motion helps one see what can be done .Ari of Don't be a victim/executi8ve self defense

[@AkbanOrg]

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[@daffybigbear]

I am glad to see there are still people who train realistically in the Bujinkan, I have seen several schools here in the states that have strayed away from practical applications and more towards commercialism.

[@AkbanOrg]

Thanks. All our research is freely available online www.akban.org/wiki/Portal:_Ninjutsu

[@davidbarnwell_virtual_clas6729]

Very nice ....very good explanation.

[@AkbanOrg]

Thanks. That’s what we do

[@multidinero]

In a full speed altercation, the throw may very well dislocate the shoulder on impact with the mat. The way the Headmaster stops is for 2 reasons. 1 being control, the other being for tutorial purposes. As for preventing the shoulderlock in this case, you can experiment with ways to stop forward moment. Maybe stopping the arm crank with a gable grip while dropping to one knee(the front moving leg), and when the momentum is slowed move into a fireman's carry. The Waki Gatame is the problem...

[@joshuaworman9829]

Hi I have a question. I have one major reservation with this move. The initial striking defense looked great. My issue is, after you parry the second punch, he just leaves his arm out there wait for you to spin around and scoop it up for your move. I am new to training in Bujinkan(not the same but related) but have experience with mma.(I did it for weight loss) I was always taught to retract my arm asap. How would that work if someone retracts there arm quickly?

[@AkbanOrg]

@kboy70 Thanks. We stepped up the documentation of our perspectives and will post these online.

[@AkbanOrg]

channel moderator here, we actually think our instructor looks more like Bruce Willis

[@geraldojunior1993]

LOL!!!! He's such a nice guy, Yossi Shihan.

[@AkbanOrg]

🙂

[@trinicosasorendano4747]

Im practice bjj and this and other technics works..thanks

[@AkbanOrg]

Thanks 🙏🏻

[@kmirallia]

A pretty tech, here in kurokawa Brasil, we just do the sokuho ukemi on the lock army or use the lock with ashi wasa kaiten stopping in a very low base and a tekube gaeshi to down in the vertical forearmy. Thank´s a lot. kleber mirallia.

[@JasonSpiffy]

Looks like a good transition into an ude hishigi juji gatame.

[@alejandrobautista6877]

Exelente Teacher

[@AkbanOrg]

Thanks 🙏🏻

[@Brainwave36]

I like it, my friend. It has a good Aiki flow to it. I think it also offers several levels of control. You could take a person off of their feet and stun them, or you could break several things on them. ;)

[@chemagagomozo5378]

Excellent!!

[@AkbanOrg]

Glad you like it. Thanks 🙏🏻

[@AkbanOrg]

Thank you Sir. Train safely.

[@AkbanOrg]

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[@grigoriskps8256]

AKBAN Your tecnhiques are epic, much respect for the skills too, but I would like to ask something, do you believe that in a street fight these techniques would be effective? Against a kickboxer or something..

[@AkbanOrg]

At least some of these will www.akban.org/wiki/Portal:_Ninjutsu

[@grigoriskps8256]

AKBAN Thanks, i'll check it out. I have to say your videos are really inspiring!

[@Dolphin00-1]

Super cool

[@AkbanOrg]

It works 🙂

[@ninjatears]

i like practicing this in my ninja trainging, but have u been able to use it in an mma fight and whats a good defence counter for armshoulder throws?

[@AllShivaPhotography]

Thank you this is really a wonderful video

[@victorribeiro2431]

If the you drop-off your body weight in the Waki-gatame stance should it do any damage or you will just trow the oponent at the floor?

[@AkbanOrg]

@princeigor1122 Thank you my friend. We are trying to document what we do. Keep training..

[@AkbanOrg]

Thank! You can get a better perspective on our project by searching google for: "AKBAN Ninjutsu portal"

[@stefan1977full]

put a video with this technique from a sparring session too

[@AkbanOrg]

@Bullshitvol2 This is a kata. In randori several of it's parameters change.

[@joshuaworman9829]

I didn't mean any disrespect in my question. I was really hoping for some clarification on this. How does this movement change when the opponent retracts his arm? I think it could work, but your going to have to be quick and not pause after the second parry.

[@victordefilippis4030]

elbow to the chin or neck

[@CrystaTiBoha]

the angry tiger stance (doko ichimonji no kamae)

[@Satwuhugl]

good skills and great vid

[@victorribeiro2431]

Well... Seems cool to use into MMA Fight or even into streets... I'll keep training... Thnx fella.

[@xfunnystuntsx3503]

where do you teach

[@xxNeosxx]

excellent really great job

[@abwatson100]

this is awesome... im subscribing.

[@AkbanOrg]

right, thanks CrystaTiBoha

[@AkbanOrg]

It necessitates an attack by an unsuspecting opponent.

[@wunikianimistic7171]

Any demonstrations for multiple opponents>?

[@AkbanOrg]

There you go, www.akban.org/wiki/How_to_fight_off_multiple_attackers_the_AKBAN_way_-_Practical_Ninjutsu_training_lessons

[@wunikianimistic7171]

Thank You. You are very good! You are! However, in the video, I don't think running would be the best course of action. In moments of troublesome or other, running draws too much attention, and they do see you and are aware, and are aware that you are getting away in plain sight. This can cause them to go after you, or create a panic. You run from a dog he or she will chase ya. My cat will stay still because she knows that running causes more harm then good. What if the attackers had a gun, and weren't afraid of using it. They'd get a clear shot. Only run when they aren't looking. I think walking away in a very causual way is most appropiate. Observing, but not letting them know that you are observing them, through peripheral vision. Remain still, walk away when they aren't noticing, and only run when they aren't seeing. It is always dangerous to run from a confrontation. Also, not to think what you are going to do. This usually fixes ones actions and narrows potential. Thinking too much can get someone killed. One must move naturally. There is no way to know what the moment can bring, and if one is thinking too much on this, that will be the opposite. You got to feel it out, and react. That is what I have come to learn. The rest though I loved, and it was very insightful and enlightening. Very useful. I like how you described the circle, and narrowing it down. Escaping the circle, because the circle is key aspect of awareness, and that is in their advantage, shifting to narrow and escape it, is a must. I like the position, and action that needs to be taken place. Your videos are very good. Do ya have any videos in regards to stick fighting bojutsu? I would like to brush up on new techniques.

[@wunikianimistic7171]

Very nice!!!

[@DethbyMasamune]

nice moves

[@echo1nyc]

You might be able to get this of in a MMA fight! It has to be done very fast tho! & by the way are you GSP's twin. haha

[@palaceofwisdom5968]

Where is your dojo ? I wanna come over and learn

[@AkbanOrg]

Google the nearest place. If you’re in the states, you’ll have to travel though.

[@palaceofwisdom5968]

@@AkbanOrg ok thankyou for replying sir

[@AkbanOrg]

Pulling the arm is accomplished by the Kuzushi, but if the opponent retracts his arm then there is no technique.

[@diegognoatto590]

Thanks a lot Its a pitty a live so far, i'd like to train. I think in the first & Last part when you do it in full speed you should try to show as it was real, your studant stoped the arm on air waiting for you to complete the motion. Its just a sugestion to the improvement of you videos because i think it would tease more the viewers so see something that is not 1,2,3,punch,punch,grab,turn,drop. in the openning at least ;)

[@philcloete]

Very good

[@AkbanOrg]

@Satwuhugl Thank you friend. Keep training!

[@232323C]

good one!

[@joshuaworman9829]

Why not?

[@BrokenTengu99]

SWEET ! Sub'ed !

[@scottharradine2792]

It's a good technique would need to be drilled. In item words drill the movement so the issue of having a person over extend and wait as some have brought up is not necessity...This could be adapted to a wrestling 2 on on that can be obtained from shrugging a collar tie...So in other words look at it and adapt it to your style as it does have merit.

[@mushintora2758]

realy good !!

[@AkbanOrg]

@yakuzafour We love Ninjutsu too :)

[@LMAN3780]

I think their Hakamas are tight to show the footwork.

[@richardluntz6169]

Ari of don,t be a victim- good one.

[@AkbanOrg]

👍🏻

[@AkbanOrg]

yep

[@AkbanOrg]

The Waki Gatame will break the elbow

[@alejandrobaquerazambrana]

Muy buena

[@iitim2152]

Ok so not only do these shoulder locks almost never work, training them is very dangerous. The risk of life long shoulder injury is massive. Now for the actual critique. Staying at maximum measure to set up a joint lock/ throw is the only way either of those work. However it requires significant physical surpremecy to pull off. In my life I've only done joint locks or throws to neutralize an aggressive party who was just posturing, catching them off guard. You'll never manage that however on someone whose already fallen for that trick. Occasionally shoulder locks have come in handy when someone was trying to fight me but had no chance whatsoever, still there are simpler ones that are much faster to pull off. There is a kongfu one involving a check quick step behind guard and headlock. Again will only work if your far superior to your opponent but is much faster than this one.

[@AkbanOrg]

Respectfully, I disagree with most of your insights. Shoulder armlocks work, or else they would not be banned from many contact sports. Nobody bans Chigong.

[@iitim2152]

@@AkbanOrg see the danger of life long injury. They aren't banned from MMA though no one uses them because trying to do that to a professional fighter will get u killed.

[@AkbanOrg]

With respect, we don’t share the same perspectives.

[@AkbanOrg]

For various reasons I don't think one can do this in MMA

[@UlichnaMisla]

is this budjinkan?

[@GoldenGate003]

done.

[@Kaysar777]

He strikes and waits. Leaves his hand straight and waits...

[@Jiyukan]

For the camera ... moron.

[@eneruginonagare6068]

Right, who punches like that? None but a kid.

[@Jiyukan]

Then show us your video of an interesting throwing technique where on is attacking with full speed. And then: don't forget to repeat everything in slow motion. I mean: edit the video to slow motion. And then again: don't forget to redup the slow motion part with understandable speech. And then tell us: would the video have been 100 times easier to be filmed in "slow motion" in the first hand instead of editing it a week?

[@AkbanOrg]

@ttNeosxx thanks

[@JP-fx1xi]

何これ古武術ではなくなってる、シラットになってんやん。

[@AkbanOrg]

Maybe this will help www.akban.org/wiki/Portal:_Ninjutsu

[@JP-fx1xi]

失礼なことを言ってしまいすみませんでした、ポータル流忍術ですか？、忍術の中でも実践的な技が多いですね。

[@AkbanOrg]

@ttNeosxx thanks