Kamijou Touma's Sad Past/Childhood (Removed from Season One) | Toaru Explained

[@AeonofHorus]

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[@ri-mf4jq]

Where i can read latest manga of index tnx..... By the way I'm new here

[@drsonaligupta75]

@@ri-mf4jq the Actual source is Light Novels, The Manga is an Adaptation like the Anime.

[@K-o_S]

I love your intro, it’s amazing! 😁

[@tuckerjohnny9351]

Coz that was the writer make him 😂😂😂

[@integral772]

Touma suffered a lot even in his childhood yet still managed to become one of the most kindest characters I know of

[@anonymous9843]

@Kamijou Medi well imagine breaker did not choose hos it was placed on him to nerf his real powers that can destroy the universe

[@idharpatangari9988]

@@anonymous9843 actually it did choose him. It was said in NT14.

[@Xen0411]

Sounds like naruto right there

[@Oueenazolatigressgina]

@@Xen0411 he is better written than Naruto

[@windahcatterpillar8519]

I hope touma will meet with accerelator when they are still a child since they both have a dark past, because that kid who pull accerelator arm looks like touma.

[@idharpatangari9988]

Maybe that's why he always tried so hard to save people. Everyone in his childhood always snapped at him for causing misfortune, making him then also believe it himself. And when he saw someone suffering, he probably thinks he's the cause of it and tried to help them cuz of guilt. That's why he was so happy when he saved Index, considering he's the first one he actually saved and the last one before memory wipe. (Ayu was "dead" to him, and he didn't remember Misaki)

[@acrsclspdrcls1365]

A tragicomic tale of misfortune.

[@Weedweaver0]

His childhood of saving people did affect future and caused him to be almost the same person

[@shironeko1843]

This is one of the biggest problems with the anime. People tend to call Touma a "gary stu" not only for his power, but also because none of his inner thoughs, monologues or feelings are shown, so it's not only they didn't understand the character, the anime cut a chunk of his personality, a big one. It made him look like a Kirito

[@antoniogrady5954]

I've heard kirito is better in the light novel's so and honestly after reading the first two volumes I kinda believe it

[@antoniogrady5954]

So I wouldn't say kirito

[@dienstaghd5815]

Isn't that almost 90% of the case when a studio adapts a ln or something?

[@antoniogrady5954]

@@dienstaghd5815 yeah

[@markjohnhumilde9758]

It's kinda funny how you explained how Touma isn't a Gary Stu because of the cut inner monologues that flesh out his character, and then say Kirito is a Gary Stu, another character portrayed as such because of cut inner monologues that flesh out his character.

[@icchan5289]

This is definitely one of the reasons why Touma fascinates me more than the other two protagonists. Despite him experiencing all this situations cuz of his so called misfortune, he always tries to find a way to be what he wanted to be and what he could be even in these desperate situations.

[@AeonofHorus]

Accel is my favourite out the three, but all of them are amazing characters.

[@acrsclspdrcls1365]

@@AeonofHorus For me at least Kamijou was instantly my favorite, at least the LN version, initially I liked AniTouma, til I read the LNs. The difference is night and day, I even thought Kamijou Touma was very similar to Percy Jackson (another book hero which I saw butchered).

[@loothanger642]

The anime made him just a generic protag, but when you dive deep into the novels, you see the true aspects of his character. I read ot in the past and had nearly forgotten this, thanks for bringing this back.. And great video as always.

[@AeonofHorus]

Thank you!

[@deuce5546]

The type of characters like Touma or Shirou need stuff like inner monologues, characterization, tics or subtleties that add depth to their characters, and in anime adaptations they are often removed from the source material without reason and so make them seem dull, basic and generic. A shame really.

[@micahlindley7515]

I actually prefer the Anime to the LN. It ended at the WW3 arc, and I think that the series would have benefited from being built around ending at that point, rather than a new arc being created to infinity and beyond. That and I tend to get exhausted by reading books. It might be a me problem.

[@elmago5548]

@@micahlindley7515 I don't think it would work to end the story after the 3rd world war, several plot points would be left unexplained. The main one is Aleister Crowley who was simply the one who moved 90% of the plot, ending the story without explaining who he was, and why he is doing this makes no sense. Without telling the plot of who or what Kamijou Touma is, they would end the story without explaining the Imagine Breaker, without explaining why Touma has monsters on his arm or why his name means the person superior to God, the one who purifies Gods and kills Devils. Honestly, if it ended without explaining important things like this, I would feel like I wasted my time watching a series that didn't go anywhere, a series started and ended the same way. One Piece follows this method of creating arcs infinitely, and for some reason it worked. Although I have the impression that the One Piece treasure will be something very mediocre, something that won't make up for the time lost watching 1000 ep. And the phrase: "the true treasure is the friends we meet along the way" will be real.

[@Ww_Epsilon_wW]

The fact that he was avoided and called a plague has been passed around in fanfics so much that I forgot that it was canon in the first place. Thanks for sharing.

[@callump1996]

Touma's childhood is one of the main reasons why he is my fav character in the series if not my fav character of all time! Because as mess up as it sounds, I can honestly relate to his past a lot. As a child due to my health problems, I was treated awfully by kids and some teachers (not all of them) at my schools, forcing me into things I didn't want to do such as PE. In fact, the bullying got so bad that on the way home from school sometimes, I would wet/mess myself due to my body was drained, I tried to tell my family but they didn't fully understand all the time (I love them but I wish they could have seen through how awful some of the teachers truly were). I was not even safe at home as the next-door neighbors would make up fake stories of me being some brat or monster (lucky that time my family knew they were lying). Even the kid who lived next door I tried to make friends with and share my toys with was nasty to me...He ask me to pick up his pet rat so it would bite and attack me and then he kept asking me to go on top of the roof to play with him because he planned to push me off and kill me as he was secretly jealous of me. Thankfully my mum knew what he was planing, and stop me from going up. Much like Touma, my life has been a road of misfortune and hell but it has also made me want to help improve myself and others around me.

[@abrow300]

I’m glad that I’m not the only one who wants to help people and hope your life is going well these days.

[@TrainerRad164]

Damn that's a messed up childhood, hope that you feeling better today!

[@AeonofHorus]

Sorry to hear that. It's good to see you still are a positive person even after all that.

[@idharpatangari9988]

Sorry to hear that bro. But look at the bright side, you could be an anime protagonist!

[@iamnowhere5678]

Damn that's saddening... Sometimes humans can be such assholes. Hope you're having a great day man and don't let those types of people change your positivity! ❤

[@legend1385]

This just adds to the suffering Kamijou has to go through i mean sure he doesn't remember it but wow the mental strain needed to live the life he does is just non existent. I don't think any other character could do the things he does he is his own person now he no longer cares about the past its all about who he is now. Of course his suffering is not over but I do hope he will be able to smile when the series concludes because God knows this man needs it.

[@acrsclspdrcls1365]

Touma: "I used to think my life was a comedy, othertimes a tragedy. But if I were to pick one, I'd call it a "comitragedy"."

[@YoungmanDolphin]

It's a damn shame hearing about what the anime did to Touma. While I was watching through the anime for the first time, I originally perceived Touma as some boring anime protagonist. But now, after seeing this video and hearing about what was cut from the anime, I now know why I felt this way.

[@professional-amateur]

Alt Title: Why Kamijou Touya is the best dad (Removed from Season One!!!) | Toaru Explained

[@J6Hydra]

Its a shame that one of the moments they removed from the LN from OT4 was the fight against the Murderer

[@AeonofHorus]

Yeah I liked that plot line, reminded me of JoJo part 4 a bit lmao

[@mikk818i]

Dont understand Who was the Murderers why is it important?

[@J6Hydra]

@@mikk818i Spoiler if you didnt read the Light Novel: He is a one time character who appeared in the Angel Fall Arc, His name is Hino Jinsaku and He was the first suspect for causing the Angel Fall spell since he was one of the people who didn't have their outside appearance swapped. He was the Main Antagonist for the first half of volume 4 of the novel. But he didn't make it to the anime unfortunately and Im sad cuz I actually liked his presence in the arc.

[@Magic.God.Othinus]

It always bothered me that the anime never covered this. I get removing the serial killer part, but Touma's backstory? They just shoot themselves in the foot with that. Then again JC Staff does have a bad habit in omitting important details when the source material is a light novel (the Shakugan no Shana anime being an example). I also liked your comment about Touma being his idealized self since that's what he can be without his memories of the stigma of living as a level 0 in Academy City. Funny since that's what Thelema and the Book of the Law is about in real life. Being your true self (true will) without any external influence.

[@Magic.God.Othinus]

@Kamijou Medi I rarely follow fight discussions in anime, so I didn't know that people underestimate Touma that much. Like do people really think Saten can fight Touma? Even if Saten used her bat, she would lose in seconds. There's also Touma's fights with the terrorist in the airplane. He held himself well despite the airplane staff getting in his way. Not to mention all of his physical feats throughout the series.

[@iamnowhere5678]

JC Staff&Nishikiori : No no no the thighs and beach scenes are more important.

[@birb9501]

@Kamijou Medi why can i see this as a possibility :')

[@acrsclspdrcls1365]

@Kamijou Medi It is rather frustrating to see that. Due to this I can safely say that anything relating to Magical Index and Anime I immediately get turned off. I have no hope for JC Staff whatsoever. They fucked over Magical Index, all for Railgun (which I do enjoy quite a lot), focused more on developing supporting characters rather than the MAIN PROTAGONIST (who himself is just as interesting as the supporting and side characters) and they have the gall to expect us to wait for NT Anime like good little boys!? Fool me 3 times, I'm fucking done. I'm sticking with the Manga and LNs over the anime any fucking day. That's all for my TED talk. Go away now.

[@acrsclspdrcls1365]

@@birb9501 Because it's JC Staff.

[@silverring3169]

So glad to finally see a video shedding light on Touma's past! It always pains me to see people discredit Touma so heavily and call him a typical, uninteresting one-dimensional character, so this makes me very happy! Still can't believe that the anime excluded this ;-; Fantastic work as always Aeon!

[@toumakamijou4878]

They included but didn't portrayed the whole thing correctly, they just standing in the beach talking, no flashback

[@AeonofHorus]

Thank you!

[@deuce5546]

Upbeat and kind MCs are becoming underrated more and more lately. People want edgy serious masterminds for MCs now. Ironically enough Kamachi would later parody them in the Kamisato arc lol

[@deuce5546]

Upbeat and kind MCs are becoming underrated more and more lately. People want edgy serious masterminds for MCs now. Ironically enough Kamachi would later parody them in the Kamisato arc lol

[@yakirussketchbook6905]

Despite the anime missing many (many..) details, Touma still is my favorite character ( My profile picture proves that... ). He had earned my respect so many times, especially since I'm currently reading New Testament ( BTW, thank you for getting me to read the novels, their awesome! ). Anyway, Great video Aeon! Keep shattering those illusions! ( I always wanted to say that ).

[@yakirussketchbook6905]

@Kamijou Medi NT volume 10, I can't wait to see my boy, Touma against the world!

[@iamnowhere5678]

Are you reviewing volumes on twitter?

[@yakirussketchbook6905]

@@iamnowhere5678 No, sometimes I tweet when I read certain volumes for fun

[@Lightning-gf5ry]

Being Touma is just pain and suffering

[@shauqiharris2772]

If JC Staff don't remove Touma's backstory in the anime, people will probably understand his character and motivations better.

[@imaginebreaker6360]

They should make an OVA regarding his backstory

[@shauqiharris2772]

@@imaginebreaker6360 No. I want a full remake that is faithful to the source material itself

[@imaginebreaker6360]

@@shauqiharris2772 Totally faithful adaptation of This series which is vast is quite impossible but near perfection adaptation could be adapted by Ufotable studios but I don't like their art style this art style is good or Maybe MAPPA but not possible maybe JC STAFF will re adapt this series properly who knows?

[@kashrimu6148]

He lost his memory regardless

[@paulsison5086]

In SS2 even Touya said he wanted to rid some of his problems with his own hands but doesnt know how due to something misfortune

[@AlanLiebheart]

Currently reading the novels after the anime, and I can't beleive this past was cut off!

[@EmeraldRambles]

Great video, and super helpful for someone who hasn't read all of OT yet like me! It baffles me every time I learn about important info like this being entirely cut from the anime. You'd think mentioning the main character's backstory would be a high priority to adapt, but I guess not lol.

[@iamnowhere5678]

You should read OT once you're done with NT. There's so much internal monologue and exposition that was cut out in the anime

[@AeonofHorus]

Glad you found it helpful! Yeah, some of the decisions made in the anime kinda baffle me.

[@rakataharjuna6754]

To be honest, one of most frustrating thing that index s1 gives is that they cut important flashback that will easily gives more depth in stories. Those flashback is not filler scene, its IMPORTANT scene! For comparassion, just imagine you cut itachi flashback from naruto or sabo flashback from one piece. Yea, thats how bad they screwed it up. Index arc, deep blood arc, & angel fall arc stories should be more deeper than what anime gives to us. Heck, even 3 stories & Kazakiri hyouka arc should be far better if JC adapt it properly.

[@rakataharjuna6754]

@Kamijou Medi yea indeed. Thats why I somehow understand why anime only says index 1 is boring despite it has good story. If only JC gives proper time & animation for trio index stiyl kanzaki and touma past flashback, I believe that anime only watcher will understand how good index are

[@Chinese_Name]

@@rakataharjuna6754 Blame the director why are you talking like JC Staff is a person who controls everything Anime studio doesn't get to decide how many arcs they will adapt and how many episodes they will get and in the end it's all left upto director and staff members

[@deuce5546]

I thought Index arc was made very well though? They gave time to each important scene, I can't think of a scene they skipped that was important to the overall plot, it's also the lengthiest single-volume arc on the anime with 6 episodes

[@arruhunahya7593]

Index was good, deep blood was okay, sisters was so-so, angel fall was meh, three stories was good, kazakiri was meh, overall still better than index III, i could say the peak of Index(Main Story) Anime was Index II, and the peak of the entire Certain series adaptation was Railgun T.

[@spyshark_5002]

Ooo, didn't know his past was explained in much detail at all!

[@toumakamijou4878]

@Hunterkage Joestar he knows how to used his disadvantage to become his advantage in a fight plus he might look like it but he's alot smarted on what the retards implied him to be

[@LongX49]

props to Touma parent for not giving up on him

[@Mosdra_Kazuma]

also for touma not turning evil

[@Mii_kan]

touma's past has always been a mystery to me, cause i only watched anime. Thanks i have a little more insight of his character

[@KamiJoJo]

There's a lot of times that I come to the conclusion that Index Season 1 had so much to take in and yet they chose a way to make things simpler, in comparison to the Sisters Arc in Railgun S they sure made it seem a lot more inspired by the source material in reguards to major and minor details that the first season didn't catch up in the first place. While being a slow paced for story telling and focusing on a lot of battles I still like the first season a lot for Touma's character development, but then soon after the 2 seasons released the show started to feel like your average Super Sentai show where the main character beats the evil guy and moves on, while the 1st season had some inbetweens of Touma's past that wouldn't be as relevant to the future yet seemed really interesting to know and learn (even if the anime was half-baked the info that was in the LN).

[@patrickjakobs5624]

I liked his past during the time I did read up all the old novels. In retrospective I should have memorized it better since it hints alot to KnT being the thing it is. Its also funny that misfortune also surrounded him and the people around him during his time before he entered Academy City since I had the impression, that only happens in Academy City. So he has that theme always around him which is also on the plus side of Aleister containing him in Academy City to limit his influence only to Academy City to a degree. Also good video as always.

[@emmanuel319]

LN Spoilers And this is the same boy who befriended saints magicians many espers including the number 1 himself also a magic God

[@idharpatangari9988]

Yeah. His misfortune now only affects him for some reason, and it's been like that only when he entered AC.

[@Magic.God.Othinus]

@@idharpatangari9988 I've always thought that Aleister made Imagine Breaker give others misfortune in order for Touya to send Touma to Academy City. Aleister could do it with Archetype Controller.

[@idharpatangari9988]

@@Magic.God.Othinus I think he use Archetype Controller to make people in Touma's hometown blame him for everything. Than in turn make Touya send Touma to AC. That made more sense to me.

[@saintgeekSG]

Is touma's misfortune really not working on others anymore though? You could argue that the reason why the characters around him always gets involved in crazy shit is because of touma's misfortune. You could also say that all of the suffering in academy city happens because of touma since the city was built for him in the first place. What's the best place to hide a guy that causes crazy shit and suffering to happen around him all the time? A place where crazy shit and suffering are constantly happening. Also, things around touma keep getting bigger in scale (church -> fiamma -> gremlin -> othinus -> true gremlin magic gods -> AIWASS and corozon, etc...), so he's getting more and more people involved in his problems as time goes. Maybe it has something to do with imagine breaker slowly becoming stronger.

[@idharpatangari9988]

@@saintgeekSG Nah. Its already said in OT1 that Touma actually absorbed other people misfortune. And frankly, Imagine Breaker is actually getting weaker since the "thing" inside Touma is getting easier to released.

[@shuvodev7888]

Tbh I think J.C thought this was gonna be a 1 season anime with no fan base and discussion so the 1st season was handled like this leaving important information behind.

[@shesk5950]

i never read this volume, but for some reason i remember this backstory clear as day

[@drsonaligupta75]

Magic?

[@johnbash-on-ger]

@@drsonaligupta75 Episodic memory about what happened to you in your own life is separate from factual and other types of memory.

[@williamruiz4571]

Having his memories get erased was kinda a gift. Also every single girl that falls for him is well deserved.

[@waynewilliams9388]

Granted that the above item, as was clearly pointed out, was omitted from the anime adaptation, and does serve well to give more substance to understanding what drives or moves Kamijou Touma to think, speak and act as he has been depicted to date, I personally find one flaw with the suggestion or implication that Touma would willingly sacrifice all to reach out and help another in trouble, as a response to the pain, isolation and brutality he experienced growing up. While that may indeed seem noble and admirable, spending your life in self-sacrificing mode with little or no concern or drive to advance yourself or your own life is ultimately no way to live. In my opinion, it would inevitably result in the rest of the world moving onward and upward, while you remain where you are. In fact, in the so-called real world, no living being stays as they are; you either progress (go forward), or worse, you actually regress (go backward). Perhaps in the so-called idealized fictional world crafted by Kamachi and company, that could work, but that's only viable if the intent is for Touma to remain in a dead-end existence for the duration of the story. And that would truly be misfortune on an unprecedented scale.

[@AeonofHorus]

Spoiler NT9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The Othinus arc shows it is ultimately no way to live. Because you end up neglecting yourself and living in depression at the thought you are not good enough to become this idealised version of what it means to be a hero. Touma learns to be selfish and prioritise his self interests as a result, even going so far as to sacrifice the happiness of 6 billion people for his own. So yeah, Touma probably would have remained in a dead end existence if he did not change. One thing I love about Index is that even Touma can be morally grey and his obsession about saving others is seen as more of a negative than a positive.

[@jadams7961]

His past speaks to a lot of people. Everyone gets bullied and harassed at some point in their life. It seems Japan has a more extreme version of those happenings to others. He still lives on. Most people need therapy though. Thank you for the video 📹 sir!

[@waalex11]

I wish they included this, because I felt it was irrational how selfless he was to help Index. Now it makes more sense.

[@_ZeroSixteen]

Giga Chad Touma Kamijou

[@alyseleem2692]

The word some of us are looking for is " Ubermensch". In contrast to the black and white worldview of Accelerator,Touma doesn't care about the morality or principles of others. He simply uses general concepts like justice or kindness when talking to his adversaries because that's what people say. He doesn't have a wide imagination, mind you. He simply lives by his own principles, ones of his own creation, defined by him. He is the Illusion Destroyer. The Imagine Breaker!

[@iamnowhere5678]

Touma is a chad even after he lost his memories. If i called my father a bastard regardless of the situation, he would've beaten the shit out of me. 😂

[@pierocolombo2643]

I still dont get how both in index and railgun they had the time to animate absolutely every bath/shower scene in existence but 0 for putting Touma's childhood which wouldnt even take long to animate😔

[@johnbash-on-ger]

How dare those perverted perverts only care about their perversions and not about good storytelling, true art!

[@pierocolombo2643]

@@johnbash-on-ger funniest part is that i dont mind it lol i like toaru girls a lot specially later in the novel but damn is that bad for the studio getting some time to actually care about the development of your mc? 😂😂 specially when its already laid out in the books

[@crazycrazywelch7252]

while I've not read the manga I have seen the anime. To me Touma was born as he was with the magin breaker. The world in nearly all instances desires balance. with all the espers in academy city and the magicals that pop up at times, something was needed to balance the powers. But like with all powers there is a price to be paid. Touma balances out the espers and magicals by being able to negate their abilities but that power comes at a price of seeming 'bad luck'. The 'bad luck' may get him into situations but it's also what often gets him out of it.

[@ryanrodriguez2498]

Touma deserves more respect due to what he did to sacrifice himself and nearly died to save the world. The people should realize not everyone is not lucky I’m not lucky I’m like Touma but hey I’m like by others.

[@blackstar4330]

great video, I would love to see more videos on what details they missed in anime. I would really enjoy a recap of the Battle Royale arc to explain to the anime onlys whats actally happened.

[@AeonofHorus]

I'm actually gonna make that video soon!

[@deutsch7078]

EYOOOOOO SHOTA TOUMA?????????? DID HE HAVE A LOLI HAREM TOO DOE??????????

[@idharpatangari9988]

Unfortunately, everyone hates him at this time, so unlikely....... Wait, Awaki what are you-

[@deutsch7078]

@@idharpatangari9988 why touma respects women the way he does: awaki touch child touma

[@shelbybayer200]

This actually explains his Iconic phrase that even he doesn't understand why he says it "Such Misfortune"

[@xnortheast1106]

No the backstop isn't needed to explain it

[@T29hotrod]

Kinda full circle on how similar Touma and Accelerator are. Both outcasts both treated like monsters , one accepted it and became a monster and one denied it and became a (Hero)

[@kitsune2152]

I think more like "embrace it?" For the touma part

[@revialter9561]

touma and hamazura have family but accelerator back story like shounen manga character

[@bernkastel7435]

@@revialter9561 Accelerator also has family. Touma's family is abusive unlike Accelerator's family.

[@kamijounotouma5596]

@@bernkastel7435 How is Touma's family abusive?

[@bernkastel7435]

@@kamijounotouma5596when i Said "family" i was talking about Index and othinus who are staying with him.

[@zgiove674]

welcome in a new video of " fix index anime because cut off important details for give 5 more minute of random fan service"

[@AeonofHorus]

Basically 😂

[@TheNVTrashMan]

Wow the part about the guy with the knife was rather specific, real shame we never got that in the anime. They could have done that in like a literal short flash back when Touya was touching on Touma's childhood. Touma is one of my fav characters in anime.

[@revilily9922]

Can you make an analysis on kamijou no touma (nt 22 reverse)?

[@AeonofHorus]

Maybe one day

[@orboakin8074]

Thans for explaining this. I only watched the anime in 2020 and never knew about his backstory. I recently bought the LNs digital and now I am excited to read them.

[@4wheal]

Honestly Index needs a remake as so much of it was missed out and badly done. Can't we get Index brotherhood soon

[@4wheal]

@Kamijou Medi yup that's an awsome title and links more to the LN

[@jtamiing559]

New testament is getting an adaptation this December, I'm just waiting for volume 9 with othinas

[@4wheal]

@@jtamiing559 that's good but let's hope it's handled better then old Testament was

[@revialter9561]

@Kamijou Medi at least they should make nt manga

[@idharpatangari9988]

@@revialter9561 They need to finish OT manga first, and by the looks of it, that's gonna need 2-3 years alreast.

[@georgeadusei1003]

I think a reason for the current Touma's action and why he gets mad at his dad is why he has Imagine Breaker. Touma doesn't do what he does for reason, but as a rebuttal for reason. He doesn't want to use his past as an excuse to help people. If he did, he'd acknowledge that he had a misfortunate life to begin, therefore succumbing to that illusion, therefore insulting not just his parents' love but also the past Touma's actions and existence. Accelerator, because of his power, is deemed the "strongest," but is alone cause of it. To fend off the isolation, he has it in his head to become so strong that no one would dare challenge him again. To do so, he kills 1000s of clones, while subtly reaching out, showing cracks in his mindset. Wanting and yearning for equal footing, not realizing he was blinded by his own illusions. One shattered by the "weakest." In general, I think Touma's actions are a result of not wanting to just sit back and let be what be. He makes his fortune in this unfortunate world without losing sight of what makes him special. Not one to be pitied, or praised, but seen.

[@mhicorivera7802]

when you think about it there is noway that they are afraid of touma bc for him being bad luck maybe the children but the adults its too suspicous but there is a possiblity that 1 crowley manipulated the poeple around touma or 2 in touma's childhood he actually use IT and many saw that and they became afraid and thats why touma subconciously refuse to use the IT because of that trauma that he experience

[@brandnewentity2696]

Shirou Emiya and Touma are sort of similar. A lot don't really understand or even know their backstories to why they want to save everyone

[@brandnewentity2696]

@Kamijou Medi in my eyes no. And saving someone is really admirable

[@Magic.God.Othinus]

At their core they have different reasons. Shirou does it because he thinks he should, while Touma does it because he wants to.

[@brandnewentity2696]

Hmm i'm not sure if i can word it well but what i think i mean is that i just like characters that save whether they have a reason or not just as long as they do the good thing.

[@iamnowhere5678]

I feel like Touma is based on Nietzsche's Ubermensch and Shirou is based on the Last Man. They are the same yet opposites of each other.

[@Chinese_Name]

@@iamnowhere5678 Seriously how do you pronounce that Nietzsche?

[@bingobongo496]

Damn Aleister-tan for sneaching Touma's location.

[@Mosdra_Kazuma]

i think Aleister only found out about touma when he heard someone has very bad luck

[@GabrielMichaelDels]

Having your entire neighborhood treat you like shit because they believe you give them misfortune is bad enough. But your ENTIRE LIFE becomes a REALITY SHOW!?!? I know Humans are Bastards and all, but THIS IS RIDICULOUS. Its a miracle Touma is still a nice guy. If he became a villain i wouldnt blame him but Goddammit he pushed on regardless. 😤What a character.👍

[@Mosdra_Kazuma]

i guess that is why KNT was so good as a enemy, utterly horrible being

[@TheManUnderTheSun]

​@@Mosdra_KazumaKNT is basically what touma could be yet chooses not to.

[@maianborsohkhlet6461]

That's why I'm still saying that we need a remake of the series, we'll see NT later

[@artofthepossible7329]

"those who have suffered much become very bitter or very gentle" -The Story of Philosophy

[@banant5620]

5:58 damn that line is damn meaningful

[@eggsaregreat3899]

Don’t know why this vid is doing so well but I’ll comment for the algorithm

[@LOLtz1]

This brings some much more context and depth to the conversation he had with his dad in the anime

[@tag4995]

Touma reminds me of the story of Prometheus

[@maaj3142]

i have Q in 2:06 in the pdf LN i have "“The children believed that just by having you around, others gained misfortune. Because they believed that, they would throw rocks at you just because they saw you. The adults didn’t even stop it. When they saw your wounds, Touma, they wouldn’t feel sorry-in fact, they ridiculed you. They would goad you on, asking why you hadn’t suffered even worse wounds.” the last line is difference from what in the video (i know its the same meaning but iam afraid that there is more difference ) what edition is right ??

[@AeonofHorus]

I used the original fan translation rather than the Yen Press translation.

[@josemanuelvelasquezsantael8928]

No wonder I could relate with touma I almost get simple as touma but different my family’s there lots of them they protect me from people who want to hurt me and they were scared so they just leave me alone until I move to different houses I am grateful for my family 🥰🥰🥰

[@gamertechlive1780]

That angel fall summoning spell is a pure incident. Well most likely because of two reasons. Touma's bad luck because of imagine breaker effect. And his father love for bringing him souvenir all over the world to counter his bad luck. Again it was an accident.. If summoning an angel is an easy task tons of mage already did it.. The right god sit even use index an a summoning ritual to re-summon the same angel. The is only possible because the angel is already summoned and the vessel was the Russian mage 'forget her name'. If not for touma's father re summoning the same angel is no easy task. Again that was the bad luck lol. His not even a mage and by using his souvenirs (charms) and somehow arranging it all around the house can cause different type of effects as a result of magic. And he successfully summon an actual angel that affect the entire world as a wide range effect and their home becoming a powerful large ritual site enough to summon a higher being to their world (dimensions)

[@Cakelover420]

Secretly a OT4 analysis...

[@batmanroblo65dantdmfan92]

I know these two are different characters but touma kinda reminds me of shrou emiya from the fate series. (Also sorry if my spelling is wrong. It's honestly one of my worst subjects and most if not like 97% of the time It's based on my memory and i do not have good memory on this type of stuff also thank you for reading this.)

[@QuanNguyen-uc2sn]

That's hell you're walking into

[@abrow300]

Good video!

[@cursedkodomo557]

Touma's childhood isn't completely skipped. on first season, early episodes, he said it himself

[@kenshanparchman6838]

It's cut down to single line iirc. Not completely skipped, but not "a man tried to murder you as a child" levels of detailed.

[@QuanNguyen-uc2sn]

Somehow, I find Touma, Emiya Shirou and Batman to be very similar

[@imcute9425]

If child touma misfortune affected on the people around him, doesn't that mean Imagine Breaker negation range is like one small Island that time?

[@kamijounotouma5596]

Could be, but unlikely cuz there's no other implication for that.

[@quentinmwilson9837]

Those dragons that reside in his right hand remind me of Recca's eight flame dragons from Flame of Recca.

[@BNVodkaFPS]

Watching this I glad he got memories wiped

[@gluttonousdragon635]

Wonderful

[@Fly_By_NightX]

That's really sad, and now I see he is a Chad lol. This was really cool ✌🏻

[@spartanq7781]

My favorite thing from this arc is without question Shirai Kuroko being president. I would vote for best waifu.

[@kylerusso3237]

I heard a rumor I’m not sure if it’s true there will be a special series when Touma will fight Ermac of Mortal Kombat when Shao Kahn sends this Warrior to observe that world. Raiden will show up for help.

[@sakshamsinhax]

We want a series video what we miss in anime

[@AeonofHorus]

good idea

[@sakshamsinhax]

@@AeonofHorus yep , you can do it but it will takes lot's of effort ,🙂

[@pitioti]

I wonder why they cut this part in the anime o_o

[@Super_Elio_Rose1310]

come to think of it, how did Touma gets the Imagine Breaker or know its existance on his right hand?

[@Super_Elio_Rose1310]

or maybe there is a light novel that tells about it?

[@Oueenazolatigressgina]

That hasn't been revealed in the series, the only people who knew about it's true nature were Terra of the Left(dead) and Aleister Crowley(also dead but in a different sense)

[@stevieveringus3857]

Aiwass: “Imagine Breaker chose you. Because no matter how much this man longed for it, he only ever met failure and setbacks.”

[@navinshibu679]

Yeah i remember but i will forget again 😭

[@WokeandProud]

Touma got the Naruto treatment as a kid.

[@blackcoast5180]

Stop you make me want to continue Toaru right now so bad, (i am to index 3), i have no time because of high school and mangas where i am already late 😭

[@AeonofHorus]

Index is more important than school ;)

[@blackcoast5180]

@@AeonofHorus 😂😂😂

[@yakirussketchbook6905]

@@AeonofHorus What he said, but still I have school cause I have to, uuuggghhh

[@lucaslisboa164]

I gess you shoud make another video about Toma's true power to update the other one. Coud be great. Love your videos

[@AeonofHorus]

Maybe in the future... Thanks!

[@tenchimuyo69]

It would impact his character more if he could actually remember it...

[@DivineSeaDragon]

Thanks for the video! Too bad J.C staff butchered the adaptation. Though I really need an NT adaptation ASAP! cough cough only really want to see NT9-10 adapted, for Othinus and maybe some Thor lol.

[@AeonofHorus]

You're welcome! Maybe one day

[@acrsclspdrcls1365]

@Haha [GG] At this point I've lost all hope with them.

[@Mosdra_Kazuma]

i think if they do NT season then it could be touched with KNT

[@k9thexv630]

It's videos like this that make me wish the Toaru light novels had audio books as an option of consumption. Mainly because reading things without pictures is such a chore for me. Sure, I can do it (I'm not illiterate), but it's much easier for me to read the dialogue of a comic or manga than to read a description of a character's physical appearance and trying to visualize what they look like from scratch. At least with comics/manga you know a character's appearance from the get-go since you can see said character for yourself.

[@yakirussketchbook6905]

I can relate to that, reading novels aren't really my thing but this series awesome story arcs kept it fun for me. Plus, sometimes the dialogue just makes me laugh

[@Unlimi-PT]

They give you illustrations for all the important characters at the beginning so you don't have to imagine them. only characters with basic designs don't get illustrated.

[@toumakamijou4878]

I want someone to make a Visual Novel of Index to make it more enjoyable to read. I'm studying Programming, I might as well creat the Visual Novel if I ever got a chance to

[@yakirussketchbook6905]

@@toumakamijou4878 That sounds really cool, I'd pay money to see something like that. There are a lot of story arcs to cover but good luck none the less if you or anyone else get the chance to!

[@idharpatangari9988]

I was like this too at first. Finished S1 and just continue the LN where I left off (OT7). I was giving up on the 7th page, but I pushed myself anyway and it turn out worth it after I finished it in 5 days.

[@mpo48]

i don't get it. you say its removed but having recently watched the episode the explanation is still there. what's up with that?

[@chippysdog6113]

Dude imagine if Touma didn't have his family

[@Kulayyu]

Touma wants to be Archer.

[@korewakorewa7580]

but seriously. touma wouldve died if not for that doctor that can treat anything😂😂

[@ryanrodriguez2498]

Here’s another video idea Touma vs All of the level 5’s in one fight

[@idharpatangari9988]

He'll lose instantly. Two of them at once is already too much for him unless one of them Misaki. The only way he'll win is using *that*, but current Accelerator can kinda compete to it so...

[@idharpatangari9988]

@Kamijou Medi Nah. His bad luck help him survive, not win fights.

[@ryanrodriguez2498]

@@idharpatangari9988 well don’t forget if they cut off his arm he’ll have his dragon strike

[@idharpatangari9988]

@Kamijou Medi Yeah, but even if "bad luck" can save him, it'll only work for a short while. In base, he have no chance of winning anyway. Tho I can see they all just try to land a killing blow only to hit his right arm and... You know the rest.

[@idharpatangari9988]

@Kamijou Medi Touma : *Sees 7 strongest person rushing him* Also Touma : Oh boy, witch of my Pokemon should I choose this time?

[@Omegadeemen]

interesting stuff, kinda sad it was skipped watching your content really does feel like way too much was skipped sadly i dont read light novels i really should stop being such a troglodyte and open up books but for the sake of procrastination does the manga ever address this? i saw like a month ago it was close to chapter 100

[@AeonofHorus]

Yeah like Medi said, this entire arc was skipped in the manga

[@birb9501]

Sad Jinx.

[@dragun428]

i guess i will try to read the light novel after watching the anime. its going to be a hassle because im not that good at reading.

[@pierocolombo2643]

Dont worry too much about it, it can get complicated in some segments where they start doing some magic/lore explanations but i promise you its so much better structured than the anime. And its written in a very entertaining way 💪just take your time and enjoy the story

[@mewmewpowergirl1625]

Can he weild key blade

[@TheManUnderTheSun]

Absolutely

[@mugenfinity8812]

A free use recyclable jesus for everyone

[@unniregularguy3966]

So i have a question its irrelevant tho Which touma you want The one that has the past memories Or the one who lost his momories

[@wasshi_9990_sumi]

A happy Touma.

[@Fuegoaries]

Manz is still one of my favorite characters in general💯 buh a deep backstory

[@MapleSyrupEh-]

bro seeing this makes me mad i watched through index not rlly liking his character and finding it pretty flat and generic at times but the more I find out about the series I realize that the anime just cut out integral parts of the story and make it seem worse then it is which sucks bc the more I find out about index from other stuff makes it seem so cool but at the same time I've been put off by a poor adaptation that diving into the LNs made its way lower on my priority list

[@eduardpeeterlemming]

Is Touma actually older then other characters

[@AeonofHorus]

Yes after NT9

[@deathglock496]

@@AeonofHorus he's the living definition of older than dirt.