Aeropro A610 & R500, What's The Difference?, Chinese LVLP Spray Guns

My ramblings on the Aeropro A610 Spray Gun, a lose copy of the Anest Iwata W400 that performs quite well considering it's selling price,Thanks for watching 👍
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[@bosshawg7427]

These are the types of videos that make Pete an invaluable asset to the painting community! No one else invests & demonstrates the actual differences in this depth of level between various paint guns from all tiers. Thanks very much, Pete! ❤

[@peteshobbies5383]

Thanks, Boss. I do enjoy doing this sort of thing, especially when things don't quite go how you expected them to go. Others who have both these guns have said that the R500 and A610 do indeed have different patterns. Hopefully, people can see this now. Thanks as always, buddy 👍

[@Scrappydootrades8256]

Agreed. I really enjoy the spray out tests with the inch scale.

[@scottherr642]

Funny Pete younthink this is boring...its probably one of the more interesting youve done. Never underestimate other gun nerds. Keep it up!

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Scott, Thanks, mate, I guess some are on the same level as me in the nerd factor 😉

[@scottherr642]

So is the a608 an I pattern as well? Thinking of getting one. Thanks

[@peteshobbies5383]

I'm not sure, haven't got or used one, I've stop short of buying one because they are quite expensive, around $160 USD after tax in the UK, that's more than an ANI F160 which are good so I would be well annoyed if it wasn't as good 🤣

[@scottherr642]

Yeah aeropro avoids any discussion concerning pattern....very annoying indeed. I've literally been trying to find any info on it- but zero luck.

[@peteshobbies5383]

@scottherr642 I know someone who has one. They say its good, but it looks to me like the tip, etc, is styled on the Gti Pro Lite copy, so I would prefer the NVE gun at that price

[@donaldlaird7924]

Thanks for taking it apart and going in detail.. really helped me

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Donald, You're most welcome, buddy. I appreciate it👍

[@deankay4434]

There are a dozen companies selling this spray gun. With the air volume knob moved to the bottom of the handle, left handed painters can't bump the side mounted knob types. Made of Stainless Steel now due to "Water-Borne" paints, Amazon currently has a bright polished version with 4 tip sizes and actual air regulator for $88.95 now on 6/27/2024. It comes with the exact same features and carefully select the 4 needle version, fluid nozzle and air cap. Made in China of course. ASE Master, retired. P.S. I like your Yamaha ball cap.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Mate, Yeah, there are, as you say, lot's of various names and colors of these, as far as I know, they are all made by Rongpeng

[@deankay4434]

@@peteshobbies5383 If a spray gun has 4 sizes of fluid needles, fluid tips and air caps to fit, as long as it fits your hand, that's all you need. Retired early due 14 lumbar procedures, I can't afford to buy a single $400 spray gun. I have one 50 year old Chevy PU to paint, then I am done. I am in my mid 60's and a long way to go yet. I just hope I don't give up as my son tears things apart, but can't put them together. I tell him don't if you can't finish it. Have a lucky one!

[@peteshobbies5383]

@deankay4434 A wise man, tearing things apart is easy, it putting them back together, that's the hard bit, cheers mate, appreciate it 👍

[@willsachs]

Great video Pete! I have been using the r500 and 610 more than any other gun lately. I love how all the internals are interchangeable. I saw your other video, but I swear they use less air than my Bellaria, 80 gallon barely ever kicks on. Thanks for the tip about the excess grease and thanks for sharing!

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi William, they do use less air than the Bellaria but it's only a little, if there specification sheet was to be believed it would be half the amount which it clearly isn't, thanks William, much appreciated 👍

[@leonbarnard1084]

I received my R500 yesterday its made by Rongpeng I did some test sprays today with it it does not have the I pattern when you spray as well as the cap is the same as the A610 it has the grooves. But still branded under R500. Thank you for the tip about the grease I cleaned it while I was cleaning the gun

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Mate, It sounds like there must be some swapping of parts on these, the one you have is a smaller, wetter pattern, I find it good for clear coat as it wets it up nicely

[@leonbarnard1084]

​@peteshobbies5383 thats good I have another Lvlp the Aurita 898 2 it does use a lot of more air than the R500 I mainly use single stage 2k and both guns create a lot less over spray the Aurita does spray nice at 14psi have not yet tested the R500 at that pressure with single stage

[@kylie5172]

Hey Pete, another very informative video. As I stated once before, I almost bought one of these guns due to the low air consumption, however your video saved me the trouble. The caps are deceiving, they do look the same. Thanks again.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Thanks mate, these seem well made and are very good value for money. They aren't anything like the 3.5 or so CFM quoted by Aeropro as we have already found out, especially as they also quote a working pressure of 2 to 3.5 bar, it's using around 8cfm at 2bar or 29psi, so it's going to be much more above that, appreciate the comments buddy 👍

[@thehonestman26]

Just opened this gun, and it is LOADED with grease. I appreciate your video and might do one to show people as well, although I've never done a video before, so we'll see. I will definitely mention your channel if I do. Thank you.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, it amazing how much they put in there, isn't it? Considering the air supply goes through there, I'm glad you like the video 😀

[@adrianmoreno6912]

very informative. great gun review. helped a lot with my choice

[@peteshobbies5383]

Thanks, mate, much appreciated 👍

[@3rekoatskustoms929]

Very well demonstrated

[@peteshobbies5383]

Thanks, mate, much appreciated 👍

[@grenvillemoore2346]

Used my R500 for some metal flake for the first time this week…. Laid it down faultlessly using a 2.0 tip and needle. Very good gun for the money. Great video as always Pete.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, For the money, you can't go wrong, especially with all the tip sizes available at reasonable cost, Thanks mate, much appreciated 👍

[@epasternak4206]

I have a 30 gallon tank, can I paint an entire car with this gun because it's low pressure low volume? Thank you

[@peteshobbies5383]

@epasternak4206 Hi buddy, The size of the tank is less important than the output of the compressor

[@davidray4655]

Another fantastic comparison video Pete.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Thank you David, I was quite surprised how well these are made considering the price they are, I'd been avoiding stripping the air valve out as I was sure it was going to be full of thread lock, but no, cheers mate 👍

[@davidray4655]

@peteshobbies5383 so even if you have to buy 2 to get a better built gun and still have the I pattern, it seem like a bargain. Or if it fits, use a w400 cap

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi David, You can buy tip sets with the cap for these pretty cheap some it not expensive to make up any combination, really

[@davidray4655]

@@peteshobbies5383 forgot about that.👌

[@Jerome3278]

I some what did enjoy the video mate ,I've got the R500 and just bought the A610 a week ago but haven't used it yet so ,yeah it was good to know 🙂 👍🏾👌🏽

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Malcom, I was expecting the A610 to give the same pattern as the R500 but it's definitely different, some, including me will prefer the smaller wetter pattern, time will see, Cheers mate, thanks for watching 👍

[@polhomarkho5229]

Hi Pete, thanks for this vid! I cleaned my r500 as you suggested (it was indeed full of grease) and unfortunately broke an o-ring upon reassembly, they are quite fragile it seems! Side note for noobs like be: after reassembly, it was impossible to trigger only the air output without moving the needle and release paint. You need to screw everything a bit tight (but not too tight to avoid breaking the o-rings!) and it will have the tolerance required to work great 🙂 the video helped me a lot to check if I wasn't putting everything back wrong 😄 thanks again Pete!

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Mate, Sounds like you got there in the end 😁 , the sealing on these is quite good, so, as you say, there is no need to go mad when tightening the rear needle guide. Good to hear you liked the video, I'm glad it helped. Cheers 👍

[@stephenjones4013]

Thank you for this

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Stephen, your most welcome mate 👍

[@hillbillycustom1730]

Great video my friend

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, thank you, much appreciated 👍

[@philhuggett4776]

Just purchased the a610 based on this. Cheers Pete

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Phil, there's no doubt they are good value for money so I think you'll like it 👍

[@bradleyyounger8499]

Thank you for this video. I have been wondering if i should get the new version

[@peteshobbies5383]

You're most welcome, buddy. It's good to hear it helped 👍

[@duecevonclutch6699]

Brilliant bruv 😮

[@peteshobbies5383]

Thanks mate, much appreciated 👍

[@JohnWD40TC02]

Hi Pete, interesting video mate and like you I like to see how these guns are made and the quality of it's components, I think a lot of manufactures make there own version of the R500 even Eastwood who are a big USA company makes it plus the prices vary so much from $50-$100 so it pays to shop around for the gun. I don't remember seeing the Aeropro make before but as you say it does look well made, thanks for sharing your thoughts Pete👌👍John

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi John, It looks like all the R500s are made in China by a company called Rongpeng, which are huge by all accounts. It really did surprise me how well these are made, considering how much they are. It makes you wonder how much it actually costs to make a spray gun and what huge margins these manufacturers make. Cheers, mate 👍

[@JohnWD40TC02]

Hi Pete, yeah I've seen the Rongpeng R150 being used by Chris from Garage Noise I don't know if you follow him mate but he turns out some nice jobs seeing as he has his own garage but no booth, he also uses the Astro guns and really rates all of them including the R150. I recon the big boys in this industry are making a killing from selling their guns at ridiculous prices, it would be interesting to see what sort of markup they make from these guns but I doubt we will ever know🙄😒thanks Pete👍

[@peteshobbies5383]

@JohnWD40TC02 I don't follow him mate, I really don't get much chance to watch that much KZbin these days, that's one of the drawbacks of making videos, your free time is spent sorting your stuff out rather than watching others. A few people have recommended the Astro guns, I gut one about a week ago from the US, it's the blue one, HE103 from memory, looks really well made.

[@tripleeathletics]

Pete, Order the Eastwood Concours and take the air cap off the Eastwood and put it on that Aeropro and you will be amazed at just how much better it sprays!!!!

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, I can't get hold of the Eastwood although the Iwata caps also fit, so there's plenty there to experiment with. Cheers, mate 👍

[@davidray4655]

Hey Pete. If your looking for more guns to review, you might check out the tiawan made Avalon spray guns. Iwata clones that actually use a version of the split nozzle. ✌️

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi David, Yes. I have seen them, but I have stopped short of getting one simple because by the time they get to the UK, they are around £140 gbp, so not that cheap

[@michaelking7495]

Thankyou for the vid. I'm looking at buying one of these and will likely get the R500 as its a bit cheaper. Cheers mate.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Michael, I would say that's a good choice especially if your not used to using a spray gun, because the pattern is wider and not so wet it gives you more control, plus, as you say, it's a little cheaper. Cheers mate 👍

[@michaelking7495]

@@peteshobbies5383 Cheers. Just ordered the R500. Would you happen to have any recommendations regarding good value air regulators (tank mounted and/or gun mounted) and water traps?

[@peteshobbies5383]

@michaelking7495 This is what I do and use, they are expensive but really are worth the money, it's important whatever filters you use you keep them as far away from the compressor as possible, video explains that as well, kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZ-0eICooq-Heqc

[@arvizu619]

Like usual a great review Pete! Thanks for clarifying that it uses more cfm than they are claiming. Was about to buy one of these since im selling my FLG5 and Pro lite T10 due to not being able to keep up with my 26Gal compressor, what would you recommend for a DIY sprayer thats actually really low cfm and sprays really good?

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, yeah, these are quite good on air but consume twice the air they claim. Do you need a full-size gun? , if so, these and the likes of the W400 Bellaria or Kiwami4 BA4J are some of the lowest consumption guns available. .

[@deanbrown7643]

Thanks for the upload Pete not a lover of these but as I've said before there's a market for them or they wouldn't be made

[@peteshobbies5383]

Thanks Dean, to be honest, I was really surprised when I took the R500 apart, it looks more very well made, I've seen some cheap guns more or less glued together to help them seal so this was an eye opener. I managed to get hold of a 430 cap, haven't got it yet but looks really good in the photos, cheers mate 👍

[@deanbrown7643]

@@peteshobbies5383 Fantastic news Pete your gonna love that thing cant wait for the vid 👍👍

[@davidb7699]

Great Video and brake Down of the Guns…

[@peteshobbies5383]

Thanks, David, much appreciated 👍

[@hzpc]

Hey Pete! Thank you for the effort youvput into this video. It does however still make me a bit in doubt. I can see the difference is ik the spray pattern, but I'm not sure which is more favorable, the slim or the wide pattern? Which one of the two would you suggest if they were the same price? I will be using it to repaint car panels. (Base coat & clear, of which sometimes metallic colours. I already have a gun for primer) Your answer would be much appreciated!

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Tim, If you are new to painting, I would suggest the R500. The bigger pattern slows the gun down, so it makes it more forgiving. Appreciate the comments, buddy 👍

[@barnsey96]

Thanks for the video Pete. So is there any actual true lvlp gun that actually uses less than 8 cfm?

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Christopher, The only one that's a full-size gun that works well consuming less than 8cfm I can think of is the Iwata Kiwami4 BA4J or Iwata W400 Bellaria, they are just under that. LVLP is touted about a lot these days as compressor size is becoming the limting factor for many people. I think it's more of a marketing ploy than a realistic possibility, to be honest. Hopefully, someone will prove me wrong , cheers mate 👍

[@wild8757]

When I bought the A610 it came with three different needles caps and nozzles, 1.3,1.5,1.7. I think the A610 cleans up better

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi mate, yes, you can get them with various tip sets, I got this as just a 1.3, I got the R500 with 3 different setups, there no doubt the 610 is the better looking gun, they do however spray quite differently to the R500

[@wild8757]

@@peteshobbies5383 yeah I seen that, it appears it’s just the cap that’s not giving it the perfect I shape, I’m going to order a 1.3 R500 cap for my A610

[@peteshobbies5383]

@wild8757 Yeah, it not a fault as such. It's just a very different pattern. The Iwata Kiwami4 and Wider4 are exactly the same in the way they differ

[@PauloAmaral2U]

Hi Pete, been enjoying your channel a lot. And I'm in a canandrum. I'll be painting small jobs, like panels and rims. I'm in doubt if I should go with the r500 or go up a little more to sagola 3300. Do you think it's worth going up to 200£ or just go with the Chinese copies? Keep it up

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Paulo, If you can afford it, the Sagola is the better gun. There's not a lot of difference in the finish to be fair, but the Sagola is better made and much more rewarding to use. It depends where you are as to how much you pay for the Sagola as the price variations are huge

[@PauloAmaral2U]

@@peteshobbies5383 thanks! I'm in Portugal, so it starts at 199€, depends on the version and flow regulator. I really don't like to buy "a second time" and I find that happens a lot with chinese products, but wanted to check with you if double the money was whorted! I'll go with the Sagola then! Thanks, got yourself a new sub!

[@peteshobbies5383]

@PauloAmaral2U Thanks Paulo, It's sounds like the prices in Portugal are around the same as Spain, which is where I buy mine from when I am over there. To give you an idea, the GTO Car with the regulator and Tech air cap is €233 in Spain, including delivery, in the UK they are around £320 GBP, so €380 and there's no regulator included, a mad difference 🙄, appreciate the sub buddy, cheers 👍

[@justinw523]

Great video!!!! I was thinking if you turn down how much fluid flow is going through the cap and adjusted the fan it would have been more like the R500 pattern?

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Justin, not really, you could get the 500 more like the 610 but can't see it working the other way round

[@justinw523]

I just got my R500 LVLP paint gun from Vevor same exact gun as Aeropro R500 and Sprayit and many others all from Rongpeng in China anyways I took mine apart just like you did and it also was FULL of grease so I cleaned it all off cleaned the air ways in the gun and added just a little bit of grease to the o-rings and will be trying it out today! Thank you for taking them apart and sharing how these things work definitely helped me out

[@peteshobbies5383]

@justinw523 Hi Justin, I couldn't believe how much was in there, bearing in mind all the air goes through that chamber. Thanks, mate, I appreciate it 👍

[@justinw523]

@peteshobbies5383 No problem keep up the great videos Pete! The Vevor R500 works great! I ordered the Rongpeng R830 it’s same as the A610 just different color and name I ordered the R830 directly from the manufacturer ALOT cheaper lol. I also have the Auarita MP-500 LVLP and I absolutely love that gun little bit more cfm I think but so smooth. Soon as the R830 gets here I’ll take it all apart clean really good and test I’ve been waiting awhile to order this paint gun to check out the difference between the manufacturer to the rebrand paint guns I bet they are exactly the same internals but never know the guts could have been taken out swapped and then repackaged then sold here in the US just a wild thought 🤣

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi mate, yes, I'm sure they will be the same apart from cosmetics, I will order an R100 soon, there little mini gun, be interesting to see how that performs, cheers buddy 👍

[@riccocool]

I almost doesn't make sense to spend $600 or more on a tekna when you can get a copy for $59 that sprays well. Water base seems to go on the same out of any gun and waterbase really hard on guns to use $600-$1100 guns for it.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, I guess you are paying for original R&D that the manufacturer carries out, plus you have a dealer network that needs a good margin to survive, then there manufacturers profit, for the end user, as you say, it's get harder to justify the big difference in pricing

[@joyjosephiyana6220]

Talking about performance it is almost close the difference is the quality build just be gentle on the treads...

[@bosshawg7427]

I wouldn't go that far as a lot of R&D is in the nozzle & air caps, which the cheaper guns don't exactly match up to. When you break it down to air & fluid consumption, fan pattern, and pressure needed for optimal atomization, that's where the costlier tech comes in and can make or break the value of a gun. Consider the LPH400 as an example.. the split nozzle and cap combo allows the gun to have a finesse not many guns will compare to, all while being highly efficient on air & paint usage without creating plumes of overspray. Some advantages you just have to pay more to get

[@riccocool]

@@joyjosephiyana6220 I'm always careful but a 6 month old $60 gun is a disposable paint gun.

[@edilsonaraujo1118]

PETE I already bought a R500, to test a hug, Nova Friburgo RJ.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Mate, Let us know what you think when you've had a chance to use it 👍

[@larropowell3658]

Hello. Do you happen to know if the PPS adapter is available for this gun. Thanks.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, yes, it's the same as the W400 Anest Iwata or LPH400, so normally readily available, thread is 16mm x 1.5mm pitch

[@Thedjcodeman]

Hey Pete, What do you think the best distance is for spraying clear with the A610? 4 inches? 6 inches?

[@peteshobbies5383]

I would go with 6 to 7 inches, depending on the clear and temperature, but you don't want it too close as it's a small wet pattern so will cause runs fairly easily up close

[@johncbr650re]

Very good video r610 or Eastwood lt100 what you recommend

[@peteshobbies5383]

The Eastwood Lt100 is the same as R500, so it depends on the pattern you like. If you like 0 patterns, then the A610, i pattern the the Eastwood or other R500 guns

[@johncbr650re]

I noticed it looks like it's just rebadged spray gun I will get the r500 thanks

[@peteshobbies5383]

@johncbr650re Hi John, yes, they all seem to be made by Rongpeng in China, then just badged to each supplier

[@rmd1629]

I want to spray gelcoat with a R500 with a 2mm tip, can these guns be cleaned with Acetone without damaging various seals? Is the gun only meant for water based paints? Any input appreciated, thanks.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Buddy, these are perfectly fine with solvent and waterbourn paints, so cleaning with acetone and other solvents is all good 👍

[@DatFunnyPerson]

I cant find any 1.3 nozzle a610 in germany. only 1.5 I ordered it but it got me thinking if i could just buy a r500 1.3 noozle and just put it on it??

[@peteshobbies5383]

I think the nozzles are interchangeable. the needle might be different, though

[@bobkeller8383]

So which cap system do you think is better? I do like the looks of the a610 better for sure.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Bob, it really does depend on what you're doing, what material you're using, and what you as a painter prefer. This video may help, kzbin.info/www/bejne/o16vpZt_fMaLY9k

[@OldJoe212]

I got the A610 for painting my Jeep. Worked great right out of the box. I'm using a 30 gal Husky compressor. Question. Is there a touch-up gun that works as well or aren't they worth it?

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, I haven't got one yet, but the R100 looks like it would fit the bill, the little brother to the R500

[@rmd1629]

Joe, was the paint for the jeep water based? Which chemicals did you clean the gun with ? Any damage to internal seals by chemical?

[@OldJoe212]

@@rmd1629 The first thing I painted was a 4x6 utility trailer. I used Rust-oleum . Just for learning. cleaned up with mineral spirits. No problem. I then picked up a Harbor Freight disposable cup set.. Time saved was worth it plus a way to store your mixed paint for awhile. The Jeep paint was a solvent base. Also used MS. Haven't noticed any problems.

[@BombasticVirus]

i am new to spray guns just bought the r610. what is that cap you are talking about? is it just the nozzle set

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, yes, the cap is the thing the air comes out of, the part with 2 bits sticking out. Those bits are called air horns, so the cap comes with the tip and needle on these

[@quattro4944]

I got cheap voilamart hvlp gun and planning to order exactly the same model lvlp , does any one know if the nozzles can be interchangeable between them to avoid buying extra nozzles for lvlp that come obly with 1.3 ?

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, I'm not familiar with the Voilamart gun, but don't be surprised it the LVLP and HVLP setups are the same, just labelled differently. Often, the case with some of the Chinese guns

[@quattro4944]

@@peteshobbies5383 thanks for answer mate :)

[@motsigman]

AEROPRO is Rongpeng's sub-brand that stands for professional,fashion design of Zhejiang Rongpeng Air Tools. The manufacturer Zhejiang Rongpeng Air Tools Co.,LTD is a vertically integrated professional air tool manufacturer.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Buddy, Thanks for the information 👍

[@ronyoutu]

Pete, or others more knowledgeable than me... Is the spray pattern of the R500 better or worse than the A610? The video show the 610 sort of has a sweet spot in the center, while the R500 has a consistent paint flow top to bottom of its pattern. Want to get one on order... but which one?

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Mate, the newer version of the A610 now sprays the same pattern as the R500, so there's no difference

[@ronyoutu]

@@peteshobbies5383 Thank You!!! I just ordered the New A610!

[@peteshobbies5383]

@ronyoutu You're welcome buddy 👍

[@mikecross-oi7cb]

Pete, I followed your advice on pulling the a610 apart to clean out the grease inside. When I pulled the internals out, a brass washer and o ring fell out of the inside. Could you help with where these are supposed to go?

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Mike , is it not in the video at 7.14 or there abouts?, There's a washer and o'ring in there

[@mikecross-oi7cb]

Perfect, that explains the brass washer. Are there any other o rings on that side. There is a small o ring that I don't know where it came from. I didn't see anything else on your video. I thought there might be something else when you took it apart off camera.

[@peteshobbies5383]

@mikecross-oi7cb Just before the click I said watch I mention an O'ring and can you see the black bit, I think that's the O'ring you mean, it sits under the washer. Out of interest, was there much grease in there, it's seems since my video they now often put less

[@mikecross-oi7cb]

It wasn't a terrible amount of grease, built still more than I would like to see in a spray gun. Thanks for the help

[@peteshobbies5383]

@mikecross-oi7cb You're welcome, buddy 👍

[@DatFunnyPerson]

I wonder how much cfm they use in reality.. because im thinming of buying the InoKraft D1 LVLP just because the a610 and r500 arent available for me

[@peteshobbies5383]

These need around 2.5 bar, so 36psi, at that the use around 10cfm, that's a very good estimate and is more or less correct

[@davidwilsonjr6889]

Thanks for your videos Pete. I am in need of assistance. I have surface rust on my fenders beginning and want to fix them. The story is the norm..not a big budget and i'm a fix it in the driveway or garage guy, already have a compressor. What paint gun would be recommended for low overspray, low material consumption, and can spray primer, base, clear? The guns i have in my sights are the LPH-80, R500, A610, Vevor, or DV1 copy (NVE)? Please help.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi David, of the guns you mentioned, the LPH80 is in it own class, really. It's much smaller than the rest, much more expensive, and a different build level. Of the others, the R500 would fit the bill being competent and cheap, the NVE, imo sprays better but costs more and uses more air, another gun to think about, if it not too expensive is the ANI F160. The advantage of the R500 is that you can get them with tip sets for very little money, so a primer setup and a base/clear setup that makes sense

[@davidwilsonjr6889]

@peteshobbies5383 That is a great help. I appreciate it. I do understand the LPH-80 is in a "hobby" class or touch-ups. Wasn't sure if that quality is better and if it could be used to paint cars (not whole cars; but maybe panels at a time). I will look into the other gun you mentioned. My compressor is about 5cfm at 90psi.

[@peteshobbies5383]

@davidwilsonjr6889 What's the size of the holding tank on your compressor, David?

[@davidwilsonjr6889]

@@peteshobbies5383 25gal.

[@davidwilsonjr6889]

The 175psi 3.5hp craftsman professional

[@JESSEPAVON]

R500 vs yt160 or any of the lvlp r500 stiles, if you could only buy one, which one would you buy?

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, Probably the R500, but none of them are low volume in reality

[@JESSEPAVON]

@@peteshobbies5383 thanks for the quick answer. I saw your video where you show they aren’t low pressure. Other you tubers that paint professionally swear they are. I don’t know much about this. i’d like to find something that uses less air and less overspray i’d love that.

[@peteshobbies5383]

@JESSEPAVON Do you need a full size gun?

[@JESSEPAVON]

@@peteshobbies5383 yes sr. I have a 33 gal compressor and paint car parts, never a complete vehicle. 🚗 also use a spectrum HTE but think an lvlp would benefit me with materials,air and overspray.

[@btbd2785]

I belive the Aero is an "Updated" version of the R550?

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi Buddy, it's supposed to be an update of the R500, but it clearly has a different spray pattern

[@aleksandarpetrovic6613]

Do you try mp 400 (r 400 or whatever, this is also copy of Iwata)?

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, I'm not sure what the MP400 is, or R400 is, haven't tried them

[@aleksandarpetrovic6613]

@@peteshobbies5383 mp 400 is replica of Iwata, from Auarita, Womax, or Italco FLG, and others, all these are Iwata replica.

[@peteshobbies5383]

@aleksandarpetrovic6613 I just looked it up, It's the same as the R500, probably made by Rongpeng in China. They all seem to come from there, including the Aeropro gun's

[@NativeSon60]

Regardless of the gun, make sure you have a 5/8th airline anytime you spray.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, What , the inside diameter? Mine is only 10 mm, so it's just over 3/8, and I can draw enough for a 16.5cfm gun without problems

[@Jopakilo]

The air consumption on these 2 gun are almost same as Kiwanis-1 13b10. Almost have the same kick in time on my compressor. And there are some residue inside the channel of the gun. It seems it is not that good as this gun has been gaining the good reviews.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, I agree . They aren't anything like as low as people say, which makes me wonder if some reviewers do pay enough attention to the actual consumption they just take the manufacturers word for it, cheers mate, appreciate the comment 👍

[@meguinness1116]

How can the Fan be taken apart for cleaning? Have you tried yet? Ta

[@peteshobbies5383]

Do you mean the adjuster for the fan? If so, I haven't on this, but I have on other guns. You unscrew the fan adjuster at the top, there's not much in there, it's just what they call a spreader valve so unless something has got in there, there's nothing to do

[@meguinness1116]

@@peteshobbies5383 should the Thumb screw be taken out first? It seems to do not unscrew totally out like the fluid one

[@peteshobbies5383]

@meguinness1116 No, it stays there, just unscrew the nut that is behind the adjuster screw

[@hillbillycustom1730]

Sata and iwata

[@captrans]

CHECK OUT THE A608 AND SEE WHAT YOU THINK, ITS DEFINETLY A DIFFERENT GUN

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, yeah, I was looking at those. Trouble with that is it's starting to get more expensive, so it makes it less appealing because other guns, like the ANI F160, are that sort of money and are good

[@krh007]

Pete i have both guns with their various sized caps (in fact i have 4 x A610's with all their different cap sizes) I recently sprayed my sons high roof Ford Transit Van (white) using the A610 in 1.3 for base & clear (had to spray outside on my driveway as the Van height is too tall to get in the garage - nice calm sunny day) sprayed base at 25psi and clear at 30psi using two different A610 guns and i use PPS series cups. (my compressor has 300litres of tank storage & heat exchanger & 3 stage filtration system so plenty of CFM) Had some paint flutter on one of the base guns? and suspect the cap was not on tight enough (any feedback on gun flutter experience would be appreciated) I am pretty sure A610 is a sub company of Rongpeng (Rongpeng hi-tech manufacturing complex is huge!! 25acres or 100,000m2 with 1,200 aprox employees and they have been around for 25yrs perfecting their gun manufacture. So they are no cheap arse dodgy backyard manufacturing facility) I believe the Eastwood guns are made by them and also other retail brands rebadged with their own logo & colours. I think i will also order some more R500 1.3 caps/needle sets and work out which caps i prefer to use on the A610 guns

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi mate, I didn't realise these were made by Rongpeng. Fluttering at the tip can be a few different things, too high a pressure for the viscosity of the material, not in your case, though. The other main reason is that the tip isn't sealing where it meets the gun body, so if it's not tight enough, or there's debris where it seats, it's on a taper so the sealing area needs to be good, some guns can corroded on the taper surface which means they won't seal, you will normally get some bubbles in the pot as well

[@dropbear9526]

Yamaha hat, Honda shirt = Sacrilege lol. Which pattern would you prefer?

[@peteshobbies5383]

Hi buddy, well spotted 😉, In my defence, I will add that I do own both at the moment, so hopefully, I'll get away with it 😁. For Base Coat I prefer the wider less wet pattern of the 500, but clear coat, once you get used to it, I prefer the 610, I say after you are used to it as the 610 is faster compared to the 500 so you need to cut the fluid back or speed up. So I would say the 500 is more user-friendly, 👍

[@Swampyssidehustlehobbyshop]

There is absolutely no difference. I have both the R500 and an A610 the only difference is the A610 is teflon coated

[@peteshobbies5383]

It appears they have changed the A610 cap to spray the same as the R500. The YT160 is also the same, It's like a family of generic clones 😂

[@toycoma98]

12:50 I'm disappointed you didn't dig further. The A610 uses a plastic bushing not oring like the R500. Cant believe you didn't catch that. R500 has a better trigger feel. Also the A510 first stage trigger is very short.

[@peteshobbies5383]

Maybe you should make a video ?