AFFORDABLE ECO FRIENDLY CAT LITTER | SVEN AND ROBBIE

[@purrrrson]

I'm leaving this comment for other cat parents who might experience the same thing. I switched to wood pellets and soon after, I noticed that one of my cats wasn't eating as well as before. Within a few months, her eyes would run steady, she stopped eating almost completely and would vomit off and on. Of course, I brought her to the vet and we tried a few different medications to get her appetite back. I started wondering if it could be the switch to wood pellets? After all, her tearing and loss of appetite came about around the same time as the switch so I switched back to the old litter. Within a day or two, she was cleaning her plate, her eyes were no longer tearing constantly and no more vomitting. I hate that I can't use the wood pellets anymore because I got used to not having to clean as much (way less dust and tracking) and it smelled so much better but her health is much more important. So, if you switch to wood pellets in the litter box and soon after, your cat's appetite diminishes, it could be that they're allergic!! Cats don't like to eat what they can't smell and allergies can cause them to lose their sense of smell!!

[@electricar9]

I recommend try Purina Tidy Cats XL Breeze litter system. It is high sided, with a mat in the bottom to collect the urine, and the litter on top makes it very easy to clean their poops and leaves the cats paws dry and clean after doing their business. No dust whatsoever. A few of my cats and I am sensitive to the dust from the clay litter. We love this new XL Breeze litter system, I clean the poop when I see it, takes ten seconds to clean.

[@YourMajesty143]

It's important not to use just any wood pellets, they should be kiln-dried and not treated with any phenols or other harmful additives. I use pine pellets from Tractor Supply and the Breeze washable/reusable ceramic pellets in the Purina Tidy Cats Breeze litter box system. I have both the small enclosed and large open Breeze litter boxes. Such a money saver and an easier process to clean. No tracking, minimal odor, and eco-friendly.

[@teagoldleaf4137]

Thank you for sharing your experience, thank goodness for kitty that you were able to make the connection with your her lack of appetite and vomiting with the new litter!

[@sheldoncole8745]

Be careful with a lot of these comments about switching back to toxic clay, and their health is normal in a day or two. If the pine contains phenols or abietic acids that would sicken your cat, it would take more than a day or two to recover. Not doubting this person's experience, but a lot of times, those "horror" stories are from litter companies that stand to lose millions if a viable alternative is found. ALWAYS check with your (feline only) vet AFTER an exam to see if this is a healthy alternative.

[@mimiz7937]

Glad you switched back to your other litter.

[@Barbie62963]

We have been using the pine pellets from TSC for almost a year now. As you said, the pine smells good and you don't smell the urine. I love this system!!

[@SvenandRobbie]

I love this arm and hammer system too! Makes sifting quick!

[@Barbie62963]

@@shasaaprilia6177 we scoop them out daily (sometimes more if they are really smelly).

[@dieselbuff854]

How do your cats like it?

[@Barbie62963]

@@dieselbuff854 I have 2 adult cats. Neither had any issues adjusting to the new litter.

[@frostflower5555]

I hope now that the pellet industry won't double their price once more and more people discover this.

[@ericcartmansstrengthandpow5960]

They won't. They'll triple it.

[@evelynramos5439]

Sad because the cat was eating this

[@xradelox]

They won’t. It’s like coconut oil for facial moisturizer. It was originally for food and many people still use it for that so just because someone found another cool use, that doesn’t mean they’ll jack up the prices. This is still considered equine pine pellet bedding and that will always be its primary purpose in the eyes of the people who produce it so the price will stay the same. Now there ARE some pine pellets that are marketed specifically towards cat owners for litter purposes and those are over double the price. But it’s the exact same thing. They just know that there are some people out there who will buy it, so they go ahead and make it. One is called Feline Pine. Don’t waste your money. Just go to Tractor Supply.

[@shinramyun1725]

My first day using the wood pelletm ugh the smell! It's so relaxing. It's like I am in a newly built home with newly built furniture 😂

[@SSsmith24]

Went up from $5.99 I saw these videos it’s $6.49 now...sure it will only go up in price

[@karencrecco2922]

I just LOVE this method for so many reasons... especially the environmental aspects... and no more kitty litter going into the landfills! And nice, fresh smell!

[@kiakiabia]

I’m so glad I stumbled across your channel. Love your content and your honest reviews on the breeze system!!!! Saved me some money. I’m switching to the sifting method AND THAT AMAZIN SCOOP today! Thanks so much

[@nancyaguila1683]

Ive had several cats throughout my life. I recently swapped to wood cat litter and it is the BEST thing ever!!! Ive used all sorts of cat litter... crystals, clay, sand, you name it... ive hated all of them but I LOVE this wooden pellet litter!

[@lous3772]

After about a year, I just gave up on pine pellets. I was excited and hopeful at first to move away from clay. But. The chunky pellets are hard on sensitive cat feet. My cat won’t cover her poop, and it stinks to hi heaven. Whatever pine smell is there when litter is fresh doesn’t last, so that’s not a real benefit. Very high maintenance-I’m constantly scooping out the unconsolidated broken down pellets and taking out the very stinky cat litter trash. I definitely go through more litter with the pellets than I do traditional litter. It’s messier than clay litter. Yes, the cost and reduced environmental impacts are important benefits, but regrettably, the cons have won out. I’ve been back to traditional clay litter for about 2 weeks and I’m soooo relieved. Less smell, significantly less maintenance, and less mess. And my cat is clearly happier (even excited the first day)….and covering her poop, oh joy!

[@bettyboop1524]

I feel the same about crystal, gummy, stinky mess - it was horrid. Dr Elsey's was my favorite litter for years and years until I discovered pellets. First I bought a small bag of Feline Pine to see if my cats would use it, they did. Next off to Tractor Supply for the horse stall pellets and I haven't looked back. They last so long and the cost is wonderful. The last time I went it was on sale so I got two forty pound bags for $10.00 (crowd roars here). This stuff is amazing of course if your cat isn't one to hide the solid waste (like mine) it can stink really quickly, but it makes me scoop quickly and no smell.

[@SvenandRobbie]

We did the same thing!!!!! I didn’t know they have sales on the pine. I always bulk buy three to four bags which last a longggggg time. It’s funny my boys don’t really cover their poo and Sven’s is a stinker but Robbie’s isn’t stinky at all!

[@Lyssa.8824]

I've become a big fan of the pine litter since I started using it. I watched another video (can't remember who, now, sorry!) and he had a great tip about using a pair of cheap kitchen tongs to to pick out the poop. It has been a game changer (sad to say that about poop, but there it is...).

[@SvenandRobbie]

😂😄 I have never thought about using tongs for poop. But whatever works! I’m going to try this new scoop that will probably have large enough slits for pine to slip through. Will review on KZbin so stay tune...that is if tongs stop working for you. Glad pine is working about for you!!!

[@HeronCoyote1234]

I wondered about tongs... Ty!

[@Athecubus]

Wow. I'm going to buy a 1 dollar tong just for that then.

[@allcindykcua9806]

I tried the pine litter but it smells how can I reduce it?

[@Alicenwndrlnd]

hey! i was curious do you still use pellets? i have 2 cats and im still using clumping litter and im getting tired of the dust that my cats carry around the whole house, at night they climb on tabels etc and i can see the dusty paw prints everywhere. does that happen with the pallets as well? i clean the house thoroughly but i just can't beat the dust from their litter, even with low dust versions!

[@darkdonna3]

If your cat pees high up in the box - PLEASE move your litter box away from Electrical outlet. 😳😉

[@SvenandRobbie]

They have never peed out of the box thankfully 😅 but we have changed locations of the litter boxes. We really didn’t like that it was out in the dining area 🤢

[@madz2013]

1:19 I use crystal occasionally for the sole purpose of tracking their health. Pretty litter saved my cat's life because I had no clue she had blood in her urine

[@sunshinemishasmommy5352]

I've been looking for an alternative to regular clumping litter..the dust is horrible for my breathing and the furniture near the litter box has a thin layer of dust all the time,it's annoying dusting constantly..these wood pellets sound like something I might try..and the sifting litter pan is a good idea too,as I have rheumatoid arthritis and some days it's hard to stand over the litter while I clean it..I'm really glad I came across this video 😊

[@SvenandRobbie]

I think there is still dust with pine. But very minimal. Like it takes time to build up for me to finally notice.

[@qveenissac]

4:38 I've seen a scoop at dollar tree that has round holes in it (it's on the kitchen section/wall but is huge and legit looks like a litter scoop or reptile scoop). It might work better than a litter scoop!

[@jesslong75]

Just successfully switched 3 cats to the pine pellets over the duration of a few weeks. I have a very large cat and the arm and hammer sifter boxes are too small for him but do work for the pellets. I decided to make a double box out of a wide under the bed bin with handles built in . When doubled up they leave a gap for the sawdust to fall through. I did spend about an hour drilling holes into the top bin but cats are soo much happier now with the room to do their business. I still have two of the arm and hammers around for the other 2 cats that do get used. I much prefer this system . I hated scooping the clay , stinky litter. We just pick out the turds. And stir the pellets for a minute to get the sawdust to fall through . And empty the sawdust every couple of days.

[@susanpratt4061]

Just make sure it is kiln dried! Am trying this myself. Went the DYI myself. One cat used it right away, the other is not sure yet.🙂

[@lovelyselly]

What is the difference?

[@rustyholt6619]

just changed to pine pellets because of this vid ,,, the oder control is amazing ,,,kittys seems cool with it ,,, major win thankyou

[@HumanKind111]

Thank you so much for making this video!! I could cry lol I was lost and then this video came and you saved my life 😂

[@jaceyapila3271]

Good job. I'm on my first bag of pellets. My cat isn't being resistant to the change. Awesome alternative so far. 🎯

[@SvenandRobbie]

That’s awesome! Glad it’s working out so far! Some cats are really stubborn and won’t change at all.

[@LianneLacy]

How is it on the dust level .

[@truckerron]

Yeah everybody's finding out about this stuff from tractor supply and tractor supplies going to go ahead and raise the price on it astronomically!

[@SvenandRobbie]

🤣😂 bulk buy before it sky rockets! At the San Diego cat convention majority of cat owners were using pine pellets! It’s the new thing now!

[@YourMajesty143]

Even if they increased it twice or 3x over, it's still cheaper than any other litter you can buy.

[@Athecubus]

Right now, its 5.99 at my local tsc.

[@imelkozlov8585]

is the TS kiln dried?? other wise is toxic for cats🤷🏼‍♀️

[@YourMajesty143]

It is kiln-dried. A whole bag lasted my cat for 6 months. I just ordered another bag to replace it and it's still the same price. They haven't increased it, and likely it's bc it lasts a long time before you have to buy more, so the demand isn't too crazy.

[@bettyboop1524]

I use the same litter sifting boxes. I empty the top tray (with used litter) into the second one that is the sifter, then lift the sifter tray and bottom trays up and shake which gets all the sawdust dumped into bottom tray. When I'm done shaking it, I empty the pellets back into the top pan and done. This might eliminate a step for you just a thought.

[@SvenandRobbie]

Thanks for your advice! We didn’t want to have so many moving pieces just for scooping so we never used the box as it was intended to be used as.

[@FireBlitz]

I've tried pine pellet litter with my cat the first day I got her and unfortunately, im just not a big fan of it anymore. No odor control whatsoever for the feces, but putting POUNDS of regular baking soda in there definitely helps.The main reason why I had to switch though was because it has a few sharp parts in it and my cat began avoiding the litterbox eventually because of it. Ended up switching to Okocat since she developed sensitive paws from it.

[@Polarcupcheck]

I have two littler boxes and use this for one of them. Works good for urine. For urine control, I think it is much more cost effective.

[@gy2gy246]

I still don't understand why Arm & Hammer gave me two plain trays under the sifter tray. I shake the top tray, empty the middle tray, and the third tray seems useless. Any, it works.

[@willlindsay6753]

I been doing this with dogs a cats for along time. There’s easier way I use you exact sifting pat but I put it on another kitty tray. So there’s always a 3 inch gap between sifting and tray. Every day I jiggle the pan and pee falls threw and remove the poop. Saw dust pan for 1 cat is about month to clean..

[@suzannenichols6900]

I seen a lot of videos on this subject and yours is best so far.

[@SvenandRobbie]

🥰🥰🥰

[@ashleyprince9785]

I just randomly came across your video because I research about doing this and I use the method now and I actually do it like you and use the same things as you

[@Mi.Lin.R]

Try litter liner bags. I scoop the boxes daily and once a week I throw the entire bag out and put a new liner bag and new litter. I buy the jumbo xl litter liner bags from Petsmart. I love the liner bags and not having to scrub the bottom of the boxes when I change the litter. It saves so much time and saves me from doing too much icky work on the boxes.

[@bobcardone7437]

I have a Litter Genie and every day I just scoop the poop into the Litter Genie. No smell at all. Empty the Litter Genie about every two weeks.

[@rubiirae]

I've used pine pellets with the Tidy Breeze litter system before and have now switched to using navy beans or pinto beans as litter. They're not as cheap as pine pellets and with the extra cost on the pads but much more gentle on the kitty's paws and so my kitty prefer it :)

[@Light_Worker]

I didn't see how do you deal with poop with that litter colander ?

[@sissimonster]

The colander inside the bucket actually looks like a compact, inexpensive way to solve the problem- and we can buy less plastic. We're going to use that, it doesn't look as annoying as the sifting box that you have to lift up while sifting. Thanks for the idea!

[@pamelamorrisonn]

Those arm and hammer ones are so nice💙

[@ambermaday1969]

This is amazing! I just ordered a sifting litter box and am going to go get the pellets after it arrives.

[@KittyEffect]

Thanks for the info. I have used a lot of different pine litters. i wonder how good this pellet works since not all of pine litters work the same. I think feline pine worked the best for the odor and it dries quicker than any others Ive used up to now.

[@SvenandRobbie]

We actually switch to feline pine recently! It works the same as our old brand.

[@karmalynn78]

This helped a lot because I'm trying to switch to a better biodegradable kind and not created more of a problem with plastics waste....tanks doll!!! ^_^

[@NauticalMoon]

I just started using the pellets today. For the poopy scooper I am using a big strainer spoon with smaller holes in it. It's meant for food, but I bought it & never used it. Now I actually have a good use for it! Thank you for the video!

[@SvenandRobbie]

I hope you are loving the pellets!

[@NauticalMoon]

I love it! I will never use regular cat litter again.

[@divinelightforall6711]

@@NauticalMoon pine is toxic, please research it....

[@NauticalMoon]

I found that out quickly. I couldn't find the kiln dried, so I bought the regular pine pellets. I got very sick & my kittens' eyes were crusty every morning. We switched back to regular litter & now we are better. I wish I could have found some kiln dried pellets to try. Pine oil is no bueno for many people & pets.

[@divinelightforall6711]

@@NauticalMoon I am sorry you had to go through that :( . Please tell others. If this is not made clear, people and cats are getting hurt. Glad you and kitty are better now! 💓

[@fc.9801]

Which one is more clumping the flakes or the picks?

[@lisas572]

I use the same pellets with the Tidy Cat Breeze Litter Box.

[@blampied]

Update...it's been one week. Basic info: We have 4 cats and 5 boxes, (in various areas of the house) We bought one new box that allows the pine pellets to fall through a grate to a tray below once they're wet. So we now have one box with all pine pellets. The rest (4) is the conventional clumping style. First off, let me start off by saying that the new box is not only WAY easier to maintain, and it's unbelievably cleaner, no annoying grains of cat litter all over the floor. I tend to be barefoot often, I know having cats in the house and going barefoot is like dancing in a field of landmines, but I like to live on the wild side. The downside: It doesn't seem to be that all the cats have taken to using the new box, and we're afraid to change them all at once. At least one of the cats is using it, I just don't know who. I didn't want to change them all at once and come home to cat turds all over the house. And policing the bathroom habits of 4 cats is impossible with a full-time job and I have no interest in being the colonel of the cat urinal. So I guess my question at this point would be, how do we convert all of the boxes to the new style without creating issues for the cats? Thanks in advance! Love your channel! I subscribed!

[@SvenandRobbie]

Thanks for subscribing! Pine will track! Just less, but I’m going to warn you it’s like stepping in legos if you accidentally step on one, which is rare for us. To be honest, I have only had to transition with Louise. With her I did the traditional way of transitioning. I just slowly added pine into her clay litter. With Sven, I just took a leap of faith. As soon as I saw him use the pine, I removed the clay box. If you saw my other litter testing videos, you will hear me say that all three of my cats would almost exclusively use what ever litter that is being test, whether is it crystal or tofu. It seems like they do prefer other litter more, but when I take away the other litter they go back to the pine without any issues. I would transition your cats slowly if you really do want to use pine and are scared they won’t use it. I recommend putting a single layer of pine on top of whatever litter you are using so they have to step on it and dig through it. Just a small layer though, enough to still slightly see some old litter. Hope this helps!

[@blampied]

@@SvenandRobbie Thank you so much! Have a great week!

[@fernandabrandao7846]

Hey! Would you like to update on this situation? I've decided to do something similar as you. I have two boxes so I made one just pine pellets and the other the normal clay. I've noticed both cats use the pine but they don't poop in it ! Just do the other one ! So now I'm curious if this happened to you? Or did you change back to clay?

[@anitacordeiro372]

If some cats won’t give it a try, add only a handful of pellets to their clay litter and gradually increase the pellets as they get used to it. It works, I’ve done it. Now they accept the pellets without clay in it at all. They need to get used to it gradually.

[@carmaela2689]

Replace it for half of the litter boxes. They will start to get the hint.

[@lynneftw]

Been 4 years since this post. Any changes in opinion, litter, or system since then?

[@abbeyroadey]

Very informative! I was going to switch to Tofu litter, but you convinced me to try pine pellets first, since they're so easy and cost-effective! ^_^

[@SvenandRobbie]

Tofu litter seems so interesting! I wonder how they smell. The pine scent can be overwhelming sometimes. I put the boxes into a like cabinet type thing for litter boxes and the pine scent is stronger than ever. Baking soda helps though!

[@ABAB-cw6js]

Where to buy dis litter?is it available on Amazon or any online store

[@sheldoncole8745]

Be careful with Tofu. Soy is the number one ingredient that causes vomiting and digestive issues (meaning, they can't digest nutrients). I learned this with Fancy Feast dry food and couldn't figure out why my cat loved it so much yet I would always come home to vomit and "poop streaks" on the carpet (i.e., soft poop). I did a spreadsheet analysis with all of the ingredients of all the dry food I fed them (I'm a nerd) and found the outlier was soy. So, I did a little research and cats cannot digest soy. I know they poop in tofu litter, but they will ingest some by grooming.

[@BeckettLA]

@@sheldoncole8745 Thank you for the info! Update: I ended up going with pine, but never got around to trying the tofu. She doesn't like the feeling of the pellets on her paws so after a few months, she refused to use it. I was using Walnut shell litter but Amazon doesn't sell it anymore (and it get walnut dust everywhere), so now we use World's Best (corn-based) and it works alright. Tried Pretty Litter, too, but she didn't like the silica stuff, I guess... haha, the picky brat! =^^=

[@Richarmed]

@@SvenandRobbie I wish I had read your comment a bit sooner. I bought a peewee system with pine pallets, I’m bringing home a kitten next week, and I was curious about the smell and if it really works. So I tried a bit with water. But the smell is so overwhelming. How can I expect a kitten with such a sensitive nose use this litter when I even find it overwhelming? I was already looking into another brand, but i guess there’s no need as the one you’re using Is as u say, intense too. I actually wanted to use tofu litter but I let a colleague convince me otherwise. Humbug

[@brendadavisscrapitydoda1284]

We are family. So nice to meet you. Im really thinking on swetching, to pelits. Great info on cat litter.

[@cloudyair7395]

Where did you get your sifting cat litter box from

[@SvenandRobbie]

Amazon! Link should be in the description or in our amazon storefront.

[@laurenbeckerle7977]

I'd love to switch, however, I never smell poop. We use fresh step, multi cat I think. I scoop daily and the boxes never smell like poop or pee. I did try the worlds best cat litter, because I know the clay isn't good for anyone, but my house smelled. I was scooping several times a day. It still smelled. I'm glad you at least said that you can smell the poop. None of the other videos have said that, so thanks for the honesty I guess. I think fresh step has changed something because it's way way way less dusty than it was not that long ago.

[@yellowbird5411]

Fresh step is wonderful. Never any smells. Expensive, though.

[@SvenandRobbie]

Thanks for watching and your comment! I want to be honest so people get all the info they need. My biggest gripe with clay litter is the powdery film it leaves behind, especially the surroundings around the litter box. Plus Sven urinates right in the corner and the clump just sticks to the wall of the box and scraping it cause it to break up a little, which leads to tiny little pee ball crumbs and “stains”. I have tried corn too but Sven likes to eat it and I did not want to risk him getting sick if he eats too much of it.

[@laurenbeckerle7977]

@@yellowbird5411 our Walmart has it for cheaper than anywhere else. If that helps. I used the odor shield variety for a couple years but then it disappeared from shelves here anyways. So I just the multicat one. You're right, it never smells. I scoop daily. Issue I had with the worlds best cat litter was the house stunk every time a cat pooped. It's impossible for me to scoop every time one of our 4 kitties takes a poo.

[@laurenbeckerle7977]

@@SvenandRobbie I had watched several videos about the pine pellets and not a one said it still smells when they poo. It's just not possible for me to scoop everytime someone poops. I do scoop daily but that's my limit. I'd really like to find an option that's cheaper and more earth friendly. The fresh step multicat is more expensive since they rebranded with frebreeze. The odor shield, that I used for the first couple years of being a cat mom was great. But I can't find it anywhere anymore. It was cheaper.

[@SvenandRobbie]

We are loving the pine litter. It took us a while to get it down but since changing to the arm and hammer litter boxes it’s make scooping much easier. Plus no more scrubbing down the boxes to get rid of old clumps of urine stuck to the sides of the box. Only Sven’s poop smells super terrible. Robbie’s poop is t strong whatsoever so the pine covers that smell. Weird right? They are on the same diet too 🤔

[@Yamato-sama]

I just bought pine pellets for my kitten. And he doesnt want to use it :/ Im also struggling with the smell of the pellets because the pine smell is so strong its almost suffocating. My litter box is in my room because my family wants it no where else. So im forced to bring in the smell. I know its better than clumping but if my kitten doesnt warm up to it. Im going to have a problem

[@SvenandRobbie]

Oh nooo. Yeah some batches can be very overwhelming. Have you tried like a purifier? Also from my experience I just dropped Sven into the pine litter a few times so he would know he could use it. I also left out this old litter next to the pine until he got use to the pine. I hope this helps!

[@Yamato-sama]

@@SvenandRobbie Ill try these, thank you for responding

[@mlady6564]

I transitioned my cat by slowly adding pellets into his clumping litter. When the litter became more pellets than clay, I completely transitioned him to the pellets.

[@desireec9222]

Thanks so much. Switching my cats over to this, so much easier and so cost effective!

[@traceypastoralcounselor8795]

Thanks for this video i am not transitioning my cats so currently i have a mix Pellets on bottom and clay on top and each time i clean it i will add more pellets. I hope it works out cuz i have no more clay left but 68lbs of pellets.

[@SvenandRobbie]

Good luck!!

[@traceypastoralcounselor8795]

@@SvenandRobbie Hi again question about the equine litter. How is the smell is it really loud when you pour out of the bag lasting for days? Feline Fresh smells like a woodshop just as strong as day one of pouring it in their boxes. Not bad but i think my cats prefer the energex hardwood pellets as there is no loud pine smell.

[@SvenandRobbie]

We are using feline pine brand now. I think the pine smell is less than the tractor supply and I feel like the pine smell is always there but I don’t feel like it is super strong.

[@traceypastoralcounselor8795]

@@SvenandRobbie I had to switch again. Started with Feline Fresh cats didn't like the smell but they used it,i f it was mixed with clay. Then went to hardstove pellets that worked but only one cat didn't care the other one after a weeks started protesting the box. Got a fee bag of Natures Scents pine cobble. Cats loved that as it is similar to clay and softer on paws. But Natures Scents went out of business. Now we are using ExquisiCat Natural Pine Cobble and the cats seem to give me two paws up. HAPPY NATIONAL CAT DAY!!

[@susananoriega6415]

Hi i already went to the web side, but the shipping is very expensive, i tough if i buy around 5 boxes i’ll get frre shipping, but not, 5 boxes is around $300 shipping! Can you help me please, i really need to buy at least one for My Baby Cat, we are out. Thank you

[@denisepinet9472]

I saw a video where they put the sifting pan on the top and the other 2 below that way they don't have to sift at all but make sure there is enough room for the sawdust to fall through something around 2 inches of space between the pan.

[@MonkeyNutz47]

Been looking into switching to pellets. Does the Arm&Hammer box's holes allow any whole pieces of the pellets threw occasionally? Or are they just right so that even broken pieces of pellets don't fall threw?

[@SvenandRobbie]

Some smaller pieces fall through but not a lot. ☺️

[@HeronCoyote1234]

I’m transitioning to pellets now, and have the triple try box system. I was wondering about the hole vs pellet size. Now I know. Ty!

[@nomadicgoddess3648]

I own 2 of the Arm & Hammer sifting litterbox and I never had any pellets fall thru and I shake the hell out of the box when sifting it! It is the perfect litterbox for pellets.

[@sophiabernardo614]

Hiii, what do you do with the waste from the wood litter?? Like the ash-like form when the pellets get wet. Thank you!!

[@SvenandRobbie]

Nothing. I trash mine. If you have a garden you can use it.

[@sophiabernardo614]

@@SvenandRobbie oh okay, thank you very much!!

[@bzntch323]

Thank you for the video! We are looking at other methods as well. Do you have much problems with the intact pellets going thru the sifter before they turn into sawdust?

[@SvenandRobbie]

Nope. It’s all sawdust. Once in a while small piece of pellets that were like half dissolved but never have I seen a whole pellet go through the sifter. 😸

[@JonaMina1]

He best Catlitter is I found out is: "Worlds best catlitter" no dust no smell pee up sorbend . Really works ! You will not smell the poop when is covered!

[@lathafalls7675]

But it’s still clay litter do u know what clay littler is made of ?

[@eMeowMii]

Do you still use the same littler? I had use the green and red version of world’s best, and the green tracks very bad and the red is so dusty, do you have the same issue?

[@meowmerch3017]

Awesome that you found me on IG! Your channel is very similar to what I’m doing on mine, that’s awesome!

[@michaelgravelle9091]

I was about to make the switch to pine pellets, look up phenol which is in pine which is a known toxin for cats!

[@sammysworld5485]

I used elsey clumping clay also when my Leo was alive... that sticky clump was a pain not to mention it weighs a ton for a 40 lb bag. Unfortunately never used it for my cat. I use the Feline Pine for my bunny litter box instead. I do believe this is a better litter & eco-friendly... can’t beat the affordable price for sure.

[@SvenandRobbie]

Dr elsey wasn’t that bad but the sticking of the clumps to the litter box was disgusting. 🤢🤮

[@tootsiebella8766]

Your very fast with your answers, THANK YOU MUCHO

[@SvenandRobbie]

Hahaha I just happened to check my phone! 😂

[@yupmom9559]

I wish i had the great luck all of you had with this. I have two Persian kittens and the breeder me this what they use. I bought a bag, and brought my kitties home. They act as if they've never seen it, and used my tile floors instead. I bought a well known brand of clumping litter, and i haven/t had a problem since, but i sure wish they would use it. Any advice.?

[@ariannadiamond211]

Yup Mom i’ve heard you’re supposed to slowly incorporate the pellets little by little, so maybe starting with a cup at first and gradually adding more until they’ve fully transitioned from clay litter

[@courtneygrubbs4842]

How long do you think this would last me for one cat before I need to change the whole box?

[@MrMykeable]

I wish she would hold up the pine pellet to the holes in the Arm/Hammer sifter, to see if it falls through. By the looks of it, it looks like the pellets would fall through too.

[@SvenandRobbie]

It doesn’t. I’ve showed it on my TikTok. Maybe I’ll do another update again and get a close up😁

[@magnoliamike]

I noticed a lot of ppl using this method. Super smart. I seen this one lady line the bottom with puppy pads , that’s a smart idea right?

[@Alisha21210]

Puppy pads are super wasteful and expensive... What's the point of the litter box then?

[@samsmith6169]

If you sift out the sawdust (what the pellets turn into when wet with pee), it's not necessary. Some folks don't sift out the sawdust often enough (some don't even scoop daily) and the puppy pads soak up the *excess* urine. If you put a handful of pellets (1/2 cup) in the bottom box, that soaks up extra pee so the pads aren't needed. Petsitters appreciate the pee pads cause it's quicker than washing out the box. Found that out the hard way when I came back from a long weekend away and the house stank of urine. She had scooped the turds, but that was it

[@mazenaghani]

Hi, thank you for the video. Do you still use this litter box? Are the holes small enough to hold pellets from falling through? Were you able to raise the upper box in order to use a liner?

[@SvenandRobbie]

Yes we still do! We actually just got a third one for our new kitten! Pellets don’t fall through. I didn’t raise the upper box. I just sifted and let the upper box rest on top of the sawdust. I wish I could do like a KZbin story to show you but I don’t have that capability yet! You can always message me on Instagram @svenandrobbie and I will be happy to show you!

[@mazenaghani]

@@SvenandRobbie Thank you for your reply

[@ericagibbons7697]

Have you tried arm n hammer slide cat litter? It can stick on the side, but wipes easier.

[@SvenandRobbie]

I don’t think I have

[@sarahstewart8390]

I tried these pellets but unfortunately 1 out of 4 cats absolutely hated it. After trying to transition over a month and a half i gave up because she still hated it so much. Also cant use those small litter boxes because a few of my cats like to raise their butt as the pee lol lucky this works for you cause those pellets are soo cheap.

[@fernandabrandao7846]

A little tip! The poop, BC it isn't attached to anything ( like clay) you can actually flush it down the toilet! Which means you don't need to put inside of a plastic bag and throw it again ( it's completely eco friendly!)

[@lovelyselly]

Even some pine pellets?

[@fernandabrandao7846]

@@lovelyselly well if a pellet is stuck ( that's odd, it means the cat might have Diarrhea) yeah! With water it becomes dust, therefore it won't be stuck or ruin your toilet like clay would

[@eh3477]

Not eco friendly at all. Putting cat droppings into plumbing exposes the it and sewer to toxoplasmosis. Cat litter should never be flushed (even if it says it's safe) and cats shouldn't use the toilet. Use the garbage bag, or it's safe to compost used pine litter. It takes seconds to scoop the poop.

[@SSsmith24]

2 weeks of addING pellets to their litter boxes ,,then I threw them away totally BOXES N ALL... THEN I put new sifter boxes full of NO LITTER just these pellets IN THERE from the tracTOR store $6.39 for 40lb... OMG DO WE LOVE THIS,,,, IM OLD N LITTER JOBS WERE HARD ON ME,,, THIS IS JUST WHAT ME N THE CATS NEEDED,, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS METHOD 100%... TY TY For telling the world about this,,,, CAT OWNERS AT LEAST TRY THIS PLEASE..... ESPECIALLY US OLDER GALS ...N IT won’t be a cancer agent to u or ur kitty 😻

[@SvenandRobbie]

Yay I’m glad this worked for you and your cats!

[@sherylldupuis4330]

Could you tell me if hardwood pellets are good as pine oil is toxic to cats ?? I have 2 cats and there is so much dust from normal litter. Can actually feel in my chest , so imagine poor cats. I find 3 part litter bin is so expensive too, so would like to make a sifting screen. Like you video. Thank you

[@SvenandRobbie]

I haven’t had a problem with my boys and pine litter. We have been using it for over two years now. Pine pellets is definitely less dust compared to clay litter. The litter boxes we use is about $12 on amazon. The link should be in the description. I also wrote a blog post about using pine litter and why I think it is relatively safe. You can check it out at svenandrobbie.com 😸 I hope this helps!

[@godmessanger9114]

Pine is great buy horse bedding it's been dried there for oil is removed. Safe for you kitties.

[@sherylldupuis4330]

Thanx all ❤️

[@mariannecorman]

My cat also pees along the front and back sides. I’m currently using a clay based litter which is extremely dusty!! I absolutely HATE odour. His box is in our bedroom closet which I also hate! We used to have him on wood pellets until one day he decided he didn’t want to poop in there anymore. I would find his poop about 3-4 feet away from the box. He peed in the pellets with no issue. I tried a couple more times with the pellets but the same thing would happen. Now I’m thinking maybe we should use two boxes one with wood pellets and one with clay for the poop 😜. I’m so frustrated about this issue. We are going through a lot of litter lately. Our house has electric heat so EVERYONE is super thirsty and pees a lot. 😜 Would appreciate any advice you may have or from anyone else reading this. I’m in Ontario Canada 🇨🇦

[@KORNkringle]

Your car is adorable! Good video.

[@lathafalls7675]

Cat not car

[@microwavedsoda]

my wife says it smells like a hamster cage in the house but we got used to it so its fine now

[@SvenandRobbie]

🤣😂 hamster cage that is freshly cleaned or a cage holding a weeks worth of waste? Hahaha.

[@carmellelapointe7583]

@@SvenandRobbie no kidding...this doesn't interest me. There must be better litter?

[@dixieparton7605]

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[@mellereyes9546]

Do the pellets ever go through the holes in the sifter? The holes look pretty big. I want to get this litter box and don’t want that problem.

[@SvenandRobbie]

The pellets we use from tractor supply doesn’t go through.

[@mellereyes9546]

Sven and Robbie thanks for replying! I use feline pine pellets

[@SvenandRobbie]

Awesome! We just made a trip and stocked up for the next few months. Totally worth it. We actually got a new kitten and had to use clay and transition her to pine. I never realized how much I hated clay until then.

[@sagansrun2932]

I got 2 of the sifter pans like you have. But I need to know how to get my cats to use it. They don't seem to want to use it. Help..

[@SvenandRobbie]

Did you switch to pine from clay? When we did the switch we left one with their old litter and one with pine so they can slowly transition. Robbie has always used pine litter so there was no adjustment for him. As for Sven I just put the pine litter box out and put him in it so he knows it’s his bathroom. I hope this helps. Every cat is different to train.

[@particle35n29]

I’ve been using this sifting method for over a year. It’s been going well. However, when I’m sifting, I can smell fine particles of the pellets and pee smell. I have to use a face respirator when I clean this type of litter and turn my air purifier onto max and open the window to get the smell out of the room. Does anyone else have this issue? Are there any solutions to this? Thanks!

[@Orlyy]

There was a clever way someone sifts the litter.. Well.. I mean makes it a lot easier: He put 4 drawer knobs on the bottom of the sifter and most of it falls by itself.

[@HeronCoyote1234]

Orlyy thank you! I was going to put something on the short sides of the solid trays, but this sounds easier.

[@Orlyy]

@@HeronCoyote1234 Leme know how it works out! I haven't bought mine yet if I'm honest.

[@HeronCoyote1234]

Orlyy I actually just turned the slotted tray 180 degrees so that it wasn’t resting snugly on the solid bottom tray. Seems to work for now.

[@denisepinet9472]

I use pool noodles on the side of the pan under the sifter cut a slit in noodle and it fits easy on the side and when I need to wash pan they are easy to remove.

[@gardenfishes]

Thats a good idea. I seen pvc glued to bottom. I do recommend 5, one in middle.

[@gaylesmith2987]

With Dr. Elsey’s, spray butter spray on the bottom and sides of box. Spray the scoop, as well, and it’ll go through the litter like ‘buttah’.

[@dhilanp.2561]

Its way easier if you cover the cat liter with bin liner 1st and then put in the actual pellet bedding on top. This makes it easier to replace bedding everytime as you'd just have to remove the binliner .

[@MoniqueBrown-qu6yi]

I have tried them all.😢😢😢 The only one that works for me is the pine pellets. Excellent!!! I am going through hell right now 3:20 in the morning because I have a little of that fresh scent one left and none of my pine pellets!!! Dammit to hell!!! The inhumanity!!! Thanks for the info. Will see. Yes, camera picked up powder. Suggestion, please wear gloves... M

[@ntcssj]

Would more trees be getting cut down for these pellets? If so, that's doesn't seem more eco-friendly than clay when both are headed to landfills.

[@samsmith6169]

Pine Pellets are made from the waste product (sawdust) produced from lumber mills. The sawdust used to be burned, then when burning was banned, they would just send it to the landfills. Some places allowed burning but required expensive permits and equipment that reduces pollution from burning waste sawdust. It is much more profitable to make boards and plywood out of the trees. The pellets are a solution to the expense of dealing with all the sawdust produced from that sawdust.

[@Aafiaeh]

What size are the dimensions of this arm&hammer litter box? is it big enough for cats that are 10lbs and up?

[@SvenandRobbie]

Not sure the exact size. I’m sure it’s listed on the amazon link. But it will fit a 10lb cat. My oldest cat is 14lbs.

[@TurdFerguson101]

Very Interesting. I have a pellet stove, and 3 cats, so I am going to give this a try.

[@karaokay5444]

I tried toilet training my cats because I can’t stand cleaning litter and it smells terrible to the point I will literally throw up. I successfully trained one of my boys but the other does not like pooping on the toilet for some reason so I’m looking for a alternative to litter, I’ll have to try the pellets!

[@hellotwinkie]

Hiya! Can I ask what is the head room between the container at the bottom and the bottom of the perforated strainer? Seems if this is shallow that is not ideal? Also if someone else here has a litter box recommendation that they love, please share!

[@SvenandRobbie]

There is no room. Doesn’t bother me since we sift twice a day and just let the dust sit into he bottom container for a week. You can try breeze litter box by Purina. That actually has space between the two.

[@denisepinet9472]

If you find that there is not enough space you could put pool noodles in between to make more room.

[@hellotwinkie]

@@denisepinet9472 Such a great idea! Thanks!

[@hellotwinkie]

@@SvenandRobbie I think my (big) cat has a lot of pee. There is definitely not enough headroom for a week's worth of sawdust. I ended up making a "spacer frame" out of wood. This system is LIFECHANGING and I can't thank you enough!!!

[@denisepinet9472]

@@hellotwinkie you are welcome I have the noodles on the side and back of the pan under the sifter.

[@blampied]

I'm trying this. We have 4 cats and I've been on box detail for 10 years. I take care of what falls out of the ass of the cats, my wife takes care of anything that happens to comes out of the mouth, (that was the original agreement.) I will update you!

[@SvenandRobbie]

The dream team!

[@Nothing-nf8ve]

How long will one sack last? And how many liters or kg does one sack contain?

[@catholicguy1000]

I go through a 40 lb bag of horse bedding pellets a week with 11 cats

[@amyguerrero8474]

Is it comfortable for the paws?

[@SvenandRobbie]

I wish I could ask them! They don’t seem to mind it.

[@dieselbuff854]

Great video, thank you 😊

[@dgcaspire]

Great method! I’m actually about to try it right now, what is your best advice on how to transition? I use clay clumping litter and I just wanted just to toss the thing out entirely and just start using the pine, but I’m honestly not sure how she will react. I don’t want her to reject it completely and start using the bathroom elsewhere. I was thinking of still putting some clay litter with the pine? And then switching to pine entirely once she’s used to it? Let me know your thoughts! I literally have all of the supplies, I’m just seeking around for advice on the transition. Great video!

[@SvenandRobbie]

Robbie was always used to using pine. Only Sven needed the transition. So for him we had one box with clay and another with pine. Once we saw Sven use the pine we threw away the clay. Hope this helps!

[@nomadicgoddess3648]

My 2 cats have never been picky about their litter but I have put the new pellets in their old litterbox so they get use to it before I switch to a new sifting litterbox and they accepted it right away. You might have to do a slower transition with your cats to get them accepting of it.

[@HeronCoyote1234]

Krazykatmom 1014 I also mixed some pellets in with the clay. Not immediately, but in about an hour, my kitty was using the mix. I’ll switch it out completely tomorrow.

[@HeronCoyote1234]

Ok, I’ve changed to just pellets. It’s so much easier, less expensive, and more pleasant to use than clay litter. My kitty is fine with it.

[@denisepinet9472]

I mixed pellets and clay litter to see how my cat did. She did fine and now I am using mostly pellets. Soon it will no longer have clay in litter pan.

[@anthonywatawat7095]

i tried wood pellets for a week or two but termites visited our home. when buying wood pellets make sure its treated otherwise there will be termites visiting your house

[@greenspiritarts]

I use the pine shavings also available at TS for animal bedding. Have for years. I just scoop the poops and change the entire box every 3-5 days as needed. Super cheap and smells nice too. Cons: the shavings do track so you have to keep up with sweeping. The shavings are compostable but if you can’t get rid of them within a week, the urine does start to smell. Urban composting, if you have it should wrk fine. I live in the country so I just dump the whole lot in the woods out back. $8 bag lasts 6-8 weeks. The shavings are already a by-product so no processing , except for bagging, goes into making the product. Super eco-friendly.

[@friedapplepie1872]

so if the poop doesn't get hard, then there's a potential that my cat is tracking poop in the house. I am trying to learn if this is something that I want for my home and for my cat. It sounds very inexpensive and eco friendly but if my cat accidentally steps on the poop, it might be a big problem. idk.. help me out!

[@SvenandRobbie]

We have only encountered that problem once. The boys rarely step in their poop. They will still cover the poop with the pine just like they do with regular litter. So it is possible for them to walk on top of the poop without actually touching the poop. I hope I made sense. I feel like I said poop a lot hahaha.

[@sagansrun2932]

Cats are pretty careful not to step in their poop, because then they have to clean themselves. They know that.. they are smarter than you think.

[@mlady6564]

Just make sure you have a box that is big enough for your cat and make sure your cat has enough pellets to work with. FYI, a lot of these sifting boxes are on the smaller side. I made mine out of a couple Sterilite containers for that reason.

[@1mKeepingUp]

Hi! I currently work at TSC corporate and am also a cat dad. Please don't use this for your cats; while it is mostly kiln-dried, we CANNOT guarantee that there is 0% pine oil in this. It's intended for use as STALL bedding! It is approximately 80% kiln-dried and allowed to further dry naturally, but please please read our Q&As regarding this because you will find that this is best used for it's intended purpose. I would personally recommend using a pellet litter designed specifically for use as cat litter!

[@gardenfishes]

It can't be any worse than clumping litter tracked everywhere and cat licking it from their paws.

[@usernameisunavailable8270]

Are the pine litters formulated for cats a safer alternative? Specifically, Feline pine, simply pine, and frisco pine? None of the ones formulated for cats mention whether they are kiln dried or not unlike the horse stall pine, which is concerning.

[@marzipan2555]

@@gardenfishes I mean cat poisoning is definitely worse than tracking idk

[@baliviano5979]

Where did you buy it, because I called lowes and home depot and its like 18 dollars

[@SvenandRobbie]

I got it from tractor supply co. I put some links in the description that you can check out and see if any stores are near by your location

[@baliviano5979]

@@SvenandRobbie thank you I'll check them out !

[@frostflower5555]

In the USA everything is cheaper so don't expect to find it at 6 bucks wherever you are.

[@dzaneenadaze]

Hi! How did you make your cat transition to wood pellets? I would love to make them switch to wood pellets but they hate it huhuhuhu helpppp

[@potato-dx6vu]

dzaneena daze my advice is to put out the second new litter next to the old one. Skip out on cleaning the old one so. It’ll be a little gross but sooner they’ll stop wanting to use it. Another thing is to take a bit of old litter, maybe some poop and put it into the new to get their smell in there. Hope this helps!

[@dzaneenadaze]

Violetta Nikitina thanks! I’ve been setting the new litter with wood pellets next to the old litter with old litter clay and added some wood pellets into it. They’re rogues, all of them! But some of them are using the wood pellet litter now. Lol

[@Arin.-.]

I really appreciated this video. I want to use this system with my new kittens but thought for some reason that you had to sift the top by shaking it lol the pushing with the scoop is much easier. I will give it a try I hope they will use it and I won’t have a small issue

[@charlieblvd5384]

Impressive vid, Thanks.

[@10ephoto]

How are you feeling about the pine litter and system after using it for 7 weeks? Would love to know. And thanks for the video.

[@SvenandRobbie]

Hello! We have actually been using this pine litter system for over a year now. We just didn’t get around to making a video until we found the best way to remove the waste. I really like it the pine litter, but I won’t lie, there is dust when you shake up the entire litter box to sift the sawdust out. It isn’t a lot and is probably similar or less than those regular clay litter most people use. Before using this litter box system we use to scoop out the sawdust into a colander and sifted into a waste bucket. That was a lot of work and took a while. This litter box system is much better with the pine and we empty the bins underneath twice a week. We don’t smell the urine at all and when my mom visited she said she was surprised our house smelled so clean (see use to complain about the cat pee and poo smell when we used clay or crystals). Price is definitely a win too. We go through a 40lb bag in two months and we normally just buy around three bags a time since tractor supply co is a little far from us. Overall, we love this system and our boys took to it without any problems. Hope this helps and we would be happy to answer any other questions you may have! 🤗 P. S. When the pellets get scattered in the floor it really hurts to step on it. It’s like stepping on LEGO’s. 😖 but since the video we have moved the litter boxes into an enclosures and we no longer step on pellets!

[@nancyau7569]

I’ve been using pine pellets for my kitties as well. What I do is place two pieces of long wood along each the side of the bottom bin and place a training pad over it. That makes room for the saw dust to filter through when i swift. It takes a few days for the saw dust to fill up at the bottom and I scooped the saw dust into trash bin. I switch out the training pads every 1- 1.5 week.

[@divinelightforall6711]

Pine is toxic to cats. Please don't risk it.

[@LyonByTheSea]

@@divinelightforall6711 these pellets are super heated beyond kiln dried gets rid of the pine oil

[@denisepinet9472]

@@divinelightforall6711 get the kiln dried and then there is no pine.

[@anonymousroleplayer2336]

Used this for years but it's a lot of work and you have to dump the entire thing every time. It smells horrible even with adding backing soda. I'm going to try tofu.

[@annsaeli7583]

The directions on this litter box say to have the ""colander-ish" pan in the middle of the 3 pans. That seems like an extra step and also incorrect. I see you have that pan(colander-ish) on the top of the 3 too. Definitely makes more sense to me!

[@beckydarrow]

I currently use pine pellets and love most of the benefits, but when my cat poops it does not his the smell AT ALL. It stinks up the whole apartment in under a minute :/ any one have tips? I would hate to go back to yucky clay litter but my cats poop smells so pungent!

[@beckydarrow]

i think the clay litter absorbs and dries the poop much faster. plus since the particles are small, very little air can move from the poop to the surrounding air whereas pellets have many more air gaps to let the smell travel through

[@SvenandRobbie]

We put baking soda our litter box enclosure. We find that helps a bit.

[@gardenfishes]

Maybe the food they eat?

[@KnifeCrazzzzy]

Ya that crystal stuff smells so bad, but I’ve been using the cheap clay stuff and as far as smell goes it’s awesome! But I definitely want to try this stuff out as well.

[@SvenandRobbie]

I’m not a big fan on the artificial perfume smell that comes with clay. It’s like when someone drops a dooozy and tries to cover it with air freshener and it smells like poop flowers 🤣😂 idk which is worse poop only or poop and fake flowers mixed

[@lathafalls7675]

Pine litter is better then clay litter do u know what clay litter is made of and if u cat gets it can cus cancer and it’s bad 4 people