Affordable ILF Recurve High Performance Options!

[@Kjklump]

I don't have an issue with the Chinese bows, except for the direct copy clones. Plenty of good ones out there that aren't pirated designs.

[@darrylpatterson1091]

Had one of these bows for a few months now, also at 40lb. My other bow is a 40lb black hunter longbow. Checked the weights at my draw at 28" black hunter comes in at 42lb and the ILF recurve at 38lb. Recurve is very smooth to draw, but the grip doesn't feel quite right to me. The recurve is heavy in the hand and the longbow very light. I prefer the black hunter grip, the black hunter also shoots the same arrows faster with a flatter trajectory. Both good bows, enjoy shooting both of them but at the moment shooting a bit better with the longbow. Again great video Jeff, giving me a few thoughts. God bless you brother.

[@darrylpatterson1091]

Just checked the brace height on my recurve, was only 6". Changed it to around 7and a half, higher poundage, faster shoots much more consistently and much quieter. Different bow altogether, much more accurate. Just have to work on my consistency! Thanks Jeff. Simple over sight on my part.

[@matthuntsboston]

An interesting tidbit I read years ago regarding instinctive archery... introducing movement such as sidestepping or movement via horseback helps tap the left brain creative side to assist in accuracy of instinctive shooting

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

Hmm, that’s quite interesting!

[@blakeumthun8128]

I watched this when it 1st came out and it got me a little intrigued. Now, I have watched a couple more times and ordered a TBow this morning. This will be my 1st ILF. I think this will be a nice addition while I work on my bow building skills.

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

Awesome! You’ll really like it especially with an upgraded string like a TTT and a little silencing material like Velcro where the limbs make contact with the riser but awesome bows for sure! You can use any of the Satori how to videos on it because it’s the exact same 👍🏻

[@blakeumthun8128]

@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 just ordered the TTT string.

[@blakeumthun8128]

@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 it came on Saturday, got it set up and it was a hammer, but that stock string sounded like it came off a broken piano., so it sat the rest of the weekend. A new TTT string showed up today and I got it on and with a “closely tuned” arrow I am in shock with this thing. 40# limbs and I can tell it’s quite a bit faster than my 50# Black Hunter shooting roughly the same weight arrow. It easily outshoots my 45# Grizzly. I’d recommend this thing in a heartbeat.

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@blakeumthun8128 awesome! They are quite a bit faster than a lot of bows and when you get them set up right they’re super accurate 👍🏻

[@joec1212]

Another youtuber uses stealth strip instead of velcro....may be a good material just trying to help. Love your content. God bless​@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998

[@billyturk8117]

I bought a pmz coral snake, which is just a rebranded black hunter. It's a good bow, but putting a fast flight, flemish twist on it really did make it shoot and feel that much better. It's been super fun to learn on.

[@josephtreadlightly5686]

The great time saver is being a subscriber. I get Jeff's videos on my notifications screen & most of the time i cant watch them. But as soon as I'm in a quiet place @ 🏡 i do. No scrolling through a bunch of crap that is out there to find the real deal. One arrow per target is the best instinctive trainimg u will get. I have a 3D range in the summer that's in thick cover & the best time to shoot it is midday. U cant see my four 3D targets from the ground. So i go up the 🌳 & when I'm tied in i pull up my recurve with the 4 arrows in a tube. I go through effort to do this but once i have a setup dialed in one arrow per target has made me better as an Archer & Hunter. If I want to get reps in for stronger muscle memory i shoot from the ground with double stacked foam targets strapped together on a platform. I put 5 small stickers on each target.

[@Tradman47]

I’m like a little kid at Christmas time 🎄Every time you post a video because I know it’s gonna be something good 😊 Your videos are so informative and inspiring Please Don’t ever stop posting videos with your wealth of knowledge 😎God bless you

[@chrishall7543]

I’ve been kicking around the idea of getting one of these TopArchery ilfs - I think I’m sold now!

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

I just got one of the Sanlida Hermit 10 ILF bows in and it is totally awesome! Its a 60” bow and has carbon foam limbs and a T6061 machined aluminum riser with a super nice low wrist walnut grip! They’re only $299 and are really high performance bows and come with a D97 fast flight string! I’m going to be doing a video on it very soon but I’m very well pleased with it! Here’s the link if you want to see one. www.sanlidaoutdoor.com/web/?invite=15192

[@chrishall7543]

If it shoots as pretty as it looks, I can’t wait to see it in action!

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@chrishall7543 just got in from shooting mine! The Wilson comfort wrap from Walmart is the ticket on the Hoyt grip! There’s a huge difference in the feel of a narrow throated grip and R-Core makes one called the Master that fits this riser perfectly just like a Satori and they’re a game changer!

[@stevenurioste1303]

Machined riser

[@NorthFourtyTube]

Appreciate you sharing the knowledge. Moving from a compound to recurve. What string or serving twist do I need to get for my arrows to clock right? My understanding is a counterclockwise twist and serving in the same direction. I have many right wing feathers.

[@josephwashington2823]

An alternative to the TBow is a Junxing Pharos 2. Lancaster Archery sells it as the Exe Scream. I love mine. I have Nika N3 carbon limbs with it.

[@josephtreadlightly5686]

I have that same riser. Great grip & I have both of the Nika N3 & C1 limbs. I went 4# lighter with the C1 medium limbs & I'm going to get a 25" riser for them. The Junxing with the N3's & my 400 spine arrows r perfect. I will be making some 500 spine arrows soon for my C1 setup. The riser I am waiting for won't be out for a couple of months. So I will have the arrows completed by then. 😮😅

[@josephtreadlightly5686]

I now have the latest 3Rivers catalog & there isn't much ILF in there & nothing like what u r talking about. But I think the future is to get more people shooting trad & new -bies aren't likely to be buying a $2000 setup. It's inevitable that shops like 3 Rivers need to adapt or get left behind in the future. Anyone that has watched Sreven Hann videos from Archery Supplies in Australia knows what I'm talking about.

[@mgmmaze]

I have that exe in cart right now😂. The forums say get it from Lancaster mostly cause of warranty. I'm looking to get back in the game after not shooting since about2018

[@MultiJmoney1234]

You’re not kidding with the strings Trevor builds. Every one of my bows will have one of his strings!

[@chazatkinson]

Amen ,to God be the glory.

[@donscottvansandt4139]

Awesome video! I think I'll join you on the hunt! Got a killer new spot!

[@bradlauber9097]

My stock strings on the black hunters is a d97 strings. The string material is fine but the serving material sucks.

[@cray-z7404]

What are your thoughts on : SLING-BOW’S that shoot around 180fps and are lethal and accurate 20-30 yards effective & efficiently taking big game on many of the KZbin videos I’ve watched ! They seem ideal for mobile hunting and close encounters & all you have to pack in and deal with is a couple arrows and a lil sling bow that you can hunt in any tree bush brush briar patch and not worrry about movement and getting busted or allowing room to draw your bow etc. it seem like a fun challenge and tool to have in your arsenal…

[@sandybarnett7502]

Enjoy your videos. May God be with you!

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

Thank you!

[@ethanstephenson523]

I agree with the string comment. I bought my wife a 35 lb recurve. The string that came with the bow stretched so much when she drawed it back. I got her a fast flight sting and it got to 37 pounds and made it a whole new bow.

[@ethanstephenson523]

Love the videos brother, God bless you man.

[@shredfreak83]

one arrow target competition is a thing aswell here in belgium (and netherlands aswell i believe), shot at 25m. Too bad that trad is very poorly represented here. it's usually compound, recurve and very few barebow archers.

[@joedaniels4646]

Great video .... God bless ya for your honesty!

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

Thanks so much and I’ve got some really exciting stuff coming up for budget priced bows that are awesome!

[@stevenparsons4464]

"I watched this when it 1st came out and it got me a little intrigued. Thank you @blakeumthun8128 for the intro. I bought it this morning also along with a set of 30# limbs. The better string(s) and Goldtips are on the wish list for March. Thanks for the concept.

[@willspears1279]

Can you do a video on the Tbow???

[@JamesWillis-yy5px]

Question: I want to go pretty high end to start with. But want to save as much money as possible. Am I better off going with Cheaper riser, and expensive limbs? Will be buying a Olympic style recurve bow set up for hunting, 70 inch. Or do you think I should go with expensive riser, and cheaper limbs? As the Limbs can than be upgraded later. What are the pros and cons of each idea?

[@Flux_Flow]

Nice, it's all coming together. @ 9:52 looks like a 28" - 29" arrow at your 27" draw. I have a dozen GT Warriors @600sp that I'm trying to bareshaft and tune for my light # bow. About to start cutting down. Man, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't nervous about it.

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

Lol just do one and that way if you go to far then you’ll still have the eleven 😁

[@outdoorsman9384]

Obviously you dont understand every video you make you get us traditional toxopholites all giddy with excitement Jeffrey, keep them coming, great video 😁

[@steveh7818]

Great video Jeff! Is it safe to shoot an ILF bow with the limbs turned all the way down?

[@sacredtoad2117]

Do you have a video on the tbow?

[@habeesimmereilig]

Great tips. Thanks from Italy 😊

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

Thank you so very much!

[@samfulks4896]

Thanks for the instruction

[@50ccause]

I enjoy your vids. Would you please post a link to this bow. Also, I only draw 24 inches. Would setting a low brace height allow me to get more cast or would it upset the performance of the bow. Getting a 50# bow and drawing it only 24 inches looks like I'd be giving up 8 pounds. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

All of these bows are available on Amazon and there are lots of options available, I’d run at least a 7.5”-7 3/4” brace height on any of them and as I mentioned the TBOW is a very good choice and I think you’ll get good performance even at your draw 👍🏻

[@PBAdventures146]

I'm working on it 😂... I love instinctive over the other methods.. sometimes I feel like I've got it and others.. not so much lol. It looks like you knock both top and bottom of arrow. Do you do that with your hunting arrows as well? The 3D shoot sounds amazing!

[@chazatkinson]

Hey Jeff , love for you to preview a “ warf “ riser !

[@sacredtoad2117]

You should should sometime look into the twig archery black spitfire bow! Its not a common talked about bow, i would really like to see what you make of it

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

I’m about to do reviews on several budget longbows and recurves in the next few weeks 👍🏻

[@sacredtoad2117]

@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 awesome! Looking forward to it!

[@steveh7818]

The Hitman Archery Stealth Hunter is the same bow as Twig's Black Spitfire. Mine is smooth, quiet, accurate and fast. The only downside is the 62 inch AMO length, which can be challenging when hunting in a tree stand. The limbs are bamboo and fiberglass.@@sacredtoad2117

[@richardlarson3759]

Jeff, Whats going on brother?! Id like to ask you this.. How much emphasis should I put on having a more compact bow, with a roughly 30.5 draw length? I understand you might not know, having a shorter draw length yourself. I dont want a ton of finger pinch.. So I was thinking either a 19 riser with longs. Or a 21 with meds. Any opinion on this when it comes to a hunting setup for myself?

[@stevenparsons4464]

An update. I got around to putting the bow together. The lLF limbs will not snap into the riser. Neither the 30# or the 45 # limbs work. the "buttons" on the limbs are to large for the slots on the riser. I am returning the whole kit. I am not likely to mess with ILF tackle again.

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

Hmm I’ve never heard of that, really weird and I’ve had all kinds but I guess it’s possible 🤔

[@averagejoe8213]

That bow is quiet!

[@nelsonkobs3363]

Draw weight question. How much of a difference will 5 lbs be, if your use to shooting a 40#@28" bow. I' m looking at some used bows and I see bows for sell with draw weights 45#@28". My true draw is 29"...I know that I am then about 2 to 3 lbs more. I am a quick release type of shooter like you. I am 6'3" about 215 lbs build...in good shape. Any advise would be appreciated...Like your videos...very informative.

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

Well it really depends on the bow, some stack and some don’t so usually five pounds isn’t that huge but definitely noticeable however you should actually like a 45# with your build and get a lot more performance as well 👍🏻

[@nelsonkobs3363]

Thanks for the response...That helps. Enjoy the videos...keep up the good work.@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998

[@robertroossien807]

Jeff, You mention the TBow but I don't find where you've done a review on it. Did I miss it?

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

I didn’t do an actual review on it but it’s featured in my video “How it works for me “

[@Auto-Bots.Custom.Detailing]

I’ve never shot a recurve bow, I’m thinking about buying this ILF. But not sure what draw pounds I should get.. I don’t hunt, I just like archery.. and my daughter is interested in it.. what is your recommendation for the draw pound? I’ve been shooting compound bows for years and kind of fell out of it just because of time.. but I’m use to much higher draws, but they come from 30lbs-60lbs. All the same price.. I’m trying to get more into quick shots so I don’t need a ton of power.. but I want something that can be used for its purpose if it’s ever needed.. just don’t know if I should go lower side of the lbs for comfort and fun vs high lbs for power.

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

I’d get a 35# and they’re still fast with 600 spine arrows!

[@justhuntin]

Do you still have the video of the carbon fiber bamboo top archery limbs? I couldn't find it. Thanks!

[@coolasucan]

What are the specs of the TTT string you used. What material, strand count and serving material.

[@brentbenningfield5437]

Wondering the same thing is this fast flight or B55?

[@robertobautistas.4513]

Hello Jeff, can you please give me the string measure for the tbow I recently order one of them and I want change the string for a TTT

[@Tullminator]

Can you do a review on the Sanlida Royal X8 Longbow?

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

I’ll try to get them to send one, they’re a really good solid company and I’m sure the bows are great, the Hermit X10 recurve is awesome! It actually has carbon bamboo limbs and a T6061 machined aluminum riser!

[@Tullminator]

@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 Sweet, thanks. I would love to see your take on it!

[@steveromnosky2901]

Hi, I just bought the black Hunter 40# 60 inch recurve, i’m 53 years old. I bought this bow to shoot with my grandson I bought 500 spine 30 inch arrows with 100 grain tips, I draw just under 29 inches. I’m trying not to cut these arrows, if I watched and understand correctly, I should put heavier tips on these 500 spine 30 inch arrows, so they’ll fly straight, correct?

[@ridebecauseucan1944]

Definitely more than 100g. 175 or 200 maybe.

[@buckeye_bowhunter]

I try and shoot my Traditional equipment as much as I can but time and money always gets in the way. I enjoy your videos and I hove a older hoyt game getter ll that I need to find some new limbs for but they are so pricy. Good luck on the 3d shoots.

[@Kjklump]

Not sure if your game getter runs the formula limbs like my buffalo, but there is a ilf adapter that several guys from Trad talk have had good things to say about them. I'm going to pick up some just so I get practice with some lighter limbs.

[@buckeye_bowhunter]

@@Kjklump Thanks for the info. I will look into it

[@danielhuff1397]

Are you shooting field tips or broadheds in 3d shoots?

[@caseyk6625]

Field tips. Broadheads tear up the targets, and I don't know of any club or shoots that allow broadheads to be shot at 3D targets.

[@danielhuff1397]

Thanks Casey!

[@rohlfing63]

Jeff, what's the best value out there in an American made longbow or recurve?

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@rohlfing63 Ol Battle Bows by Jonathan Adams in Georgia! 💯

[@CampfireKodiak]

I prefer Chinese bows that are designed and branded by US Archery companies like Lancaster or Three Rivers. Then I don't feel so bad because most of the money stays in country. The Galaxy and TradTech lines by Lancaster Archery are excellent bows and not rip off clones. I own the 21" ILF Galaxy Artemis and the 19" ILF TradTech Trident. Love them both! I prefer the wood riser Trident for hunting. I have four sets of TradTech BlackMax 2.0 limbs from 35-50 lbs.

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

Yes sir and a lot of people don’t realize that 3rivers and Lancaster have to pay a 15% federal excise tax on every order that goes back into our economy 👍🏻

[@victorslamberts7070]

612 Daugherty Vista

[@jayinla228]

Any updates with the new bow?

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

Yes sir! Just got a call today from 3rivers and mine shipped out this afternoon! It is the new Nyx Recurve! 60” with 3K carbon foam core high performance bow! I’ll be introducing it sometime this week can’t wait!

[@jayinla228]

@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 wonder how it will compare to the hermit 10? Any idea on the price? can't wait for the vid.

[@dontblink2782]

I've been shooting and talking about this Toparchery TABOW "Satori" for a year, and the Hoyt guys don't like it. 🤣🤣🤣❤️ Edit: It's not TBOW. Its TABOW. People keep misreading the "A" for a "B". And if you think those black Toparchery limbs are good, wait until you upgrade to their wood grain limbs that are fiberglass, over carbon with the bamboo core. They run about $110 (Amazon) alone, no riser.

[@brentbenningfield5437]

Jeff, what is the length and material of that TTT string?

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@brentbenningfield5437 I believe it’s actually 58 1/2” for this bow but Trevor keeps great records for future orders on most all bows including the budget bows like this one 👍🏻

[@gcmoore5987]

Hey Jeff, If I buy the TBOW 19" aluminum riser and go over to Amazon and buy the Toparchery 40# ILF limbs, what will my AMO length be? (for new Flemish twist string) Thanks.

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@gcmoore5987 62” 👍🏻

[@jblanla]

Sir would you prefer to hunt with this bow or Sanlida Royal X8 recurve?

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

For hunting the Royal X8 would definitely be my choice!

[@bradlauber9097]

Top archery I e mail them and never get a response nor Bosen bows. I like to get info from these companies but it's hard to reach. Have you ever shot the samick discovery r3 limbs in carbon foam and what are your thoughts?

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@bradlauber9097 you will hear back from Sanlida! They’re way different than the other companies and have excellent customer service!

[@timwilkerson8867]

Thanks

[@jleturgez78]

I’m on the fence about buying a new bow. Do you prefer the Tbow over the Hermit?

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

Absolutely not

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

The Hermit is way better!

[@jleturgez78]

Thanks for your reply!

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@jleturgez78 yes sir! The TBOW is good but the Hermit 10 is far advanced in quality and performance.

[@jleturgez78]

I pulled the trigger on it and ordered one. They sent me a confirmation email and ask where I had heard about them, so I told them it was your channel. Thank again.

[@dontblink2782]

What string material is that, and how many strands?

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

D97 fast flight Flemish 16 strand👍🏻

[@FunkMegan]

865 Sheridan Rue

[@jayinla228]

Cool vid, to be clear this has a tbow riser with top archery limbs? Are these limbs superior to the tbow limbs? Thanks.

[@miragexl007]

That's what I'm wondering. Tbow or top archery?

[@mumurioste790]

What kind of string silencers are those

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

Spider legs trimmed off 👍🏻

[@marc-olivierboily574]

Hi Jeff, what glove do you use?

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

A BearPaw Classic 👍🏻

[@GinaAdams-x6h]

536 Ericka Summit

[@fabienlarcher4552]

It's a 62" recurve?

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

Yes sir 👍🏻

[@fabienlarcher4552]

Ok, thanks. it seems to be a bit noisy. @@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998

[@sweetzola6140]

Wich Tbow exactly i heard they werent safe

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@sweetzola6140 If you go with a Sanlida Hermit 10 you won’t have to worry about anything, they cost a little more but miles ahead on pure quality.

[@miragexl007]

So Tbow or Top archery?

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

@@miragexl007 TBOW is much better quality especially the riser 👍🏻

[@MikeHeloise]

109 Devonte Mountain

[@kevinscott4747]

I bought a TBOW and changed the string to a Flemish string and consistent shot after consistent shot

[@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998]

Absolutely!

[@EleanorRyan-y9k]

Michaela Fork

[@SmithYvonne-d3e]

379 Toy Haven

[@AprilBallard-h1i]

Guiseppe Turnpike

[@JenniferBrown-p9o]

Marcus Isle

[@samfulks4896]

Amen

[@AletaLavigne-u8d]

Pagac Mountains

[@NoraGeorge-l5q]

Cathrine Burg

[@kurtmacadam8658]

426 Block Views

[@ElmoBorton]

3953 Miller Row

[@Victor-w7o]

Do they come in left-handed version. Thanks....

[@BruceNix-s3v]

0728 Kreiger Locks

[@DobbinOwen]

0346 Green Center

[@WebbNora]

98249 Moen Summit

[@LaurieFanny]

468 Ibrahim Via

[@AugustusAngela]

9167 Littel Ville