Battle of Ostagar - Dragon Age Origins (2009) Battle Scene

[@ShadowDissemble]

Veilguard could never :( This still gives me chills to this day. Origins had soul...

[@UnreliableOrganism39]

Came to see, if anyone else was here after veilguard.

[@mylifeisalie143]

Not had! HAS!!! STILL THE BEST RPG EVER!!!

[@Geraltofrivia12gdhdbruwj]

The armors, aesthetics, grand story, art directions of Origins are unmatched.

[@astherothhh]

Now we have trans and pink hairs fighting ennemies without personality and even insulting someone is impossible 😂😂😂 Bioware is dead.

[@Matvo]

@@Geraltofrivia12gdhdbruwj And they aged so well as a wine next to heater.

[@shyviking]

6:14 - that moment keeps being so good and emotional, even after having played the game many times. It gives you (the player) a sense of comfort and assurance that you know that the last thing, Duncan saw and realised, was that you (the warden) did not fail....

[@Garthorium]

There's something about the depiction of despair here - I at least interpret it as despair - that is so brutally raw and realistic that it can't help but evoke grief and sadness. The way Duncan moves, his face, the music, it's one of the shortest but most poignant displays of emotion I've honestly seen in a videogame.

[@TheKamel777]

Alistair and you didn’t fail Duncan.

[@RedFloyd469]

@@Garthorium They really made him look extra tired, moving sluggishly, looking up with a sad expression, you can hear his fatigue in his rapid, pained breaths. The extra twist he gives to the dagger when he plunges both of them in the ogre... The animation team really knew how to give Duncan an ending he deserved.

[@Garthorium]

@@RedFloyd469 It's the attention to detail here presented in the limitations of the games in engine render which kinda makes it all the more impressive. Duncans movements are extremely realistic and believable, they portray a weight that is easily and clearly conveyed. He also happens to look eerily similar to someone I know. This scene stood out the most to me when I played this game for the first time, it never left me, now here I am reliving the same emotions I felt when I witnessed this for the first time all those years ago. Origins is just yet another classic that came from a golden era of storytelling we'll never match nor see the likes of ever again.

[@altus2447]

I dunno. I think this is more of Duncan seeing the Tower of Ishal lit and realizing Loghain had backed out. Duncan’s expression looks angry.

[@a.munroe]

Anyone else still get choked up? They really drove home the reluctance and determination in the warriors...

[@ghalanox]

You dont need high end graphics to land a classic. Just trust the good ol' MASTERFUL STORYTELLING and CINEMATIC CUTSCENES c:

[@jakehanson216]

I love inquisition, but the look and feel of origins is unmatched

[@distantthunder12ck55]

Origins is way superior to the tedious bore-fest that was Inquisition.

[@liliannagorko3395]

Yesssss also way more dark and gritty

[@MrDMIDOV]

Inquisition was ok. And dragon age 2 was absolute trash. I’m really curious about the decision making process that caused dragon age to go from a gritty dark fantasy experience to generic fantasy bullcrap. Without all the retcons and 180 on the narrative, dragon age could’ve seen witcher level of success… It’s a real possibility dread wolf would just be another hot piece of dung released by late stage BioWare

[@leone41ll]

That's because it's during a freaking blight. You lot all sound like drones, always parroting the same talking point. How would this feel special if everyday in Thedas looked like that. Even in our world, which DA draws heavy inspiration from, varies day to day, season to season, apocalypse to apocalypse.

[@NulleDulle]

I mean, just give us DA:Origins remaster already

[@restitudororbis8235]

2:29 this scene and all cutscenes in this battle always give me chills dragon ages origins will forever be a masterpiece

[@forest8969]

best gaming music eber! so epic

[@thiagofoliveira]

@@forest8969 It has to be. From the same man who created the soundtrack for Klingon Academy.

[@sherL0ck13]

I really started tearing up while watching after seeing what was done with the Dragon Age world in the Failguard game. What a great fantasy world we had

[@korawitbuttramee618]

this is what happen when you decide to ignore the world state of 3 fucking games with LOADS of variations from the player's choices, and players had to wait 10 years for the final episode only to find that the previous games don't matter anymore. I guess it was a price to pay for BioWare to get Dragon Age out of development hell, not being a live service game, and be done with it after EA scrapped their idea twice. Of course, it was ultimately BioWare's decision to soft reboot the franchise BEFORE it was even over.

[@TheMortiaris]

They destroyed big piece of fantasy, i would never forgive this woke clowns

[@nicksalehi97]

I keep coming back to this part. All the way back from 2009/2010. Dragon Age Origins was the first "real" game i played in terms of story, character development and all the things an rpg entails. In a way i wish they had made a remaster of this game, but with how things are looking with Bioware, EA and AAA games in general....I really hope they dont. I feel like they would somehow fuck it up. Let this masterpiece be just that. A masterpiece of its time.

[@beverlypotter3236]

Agreed 100%percent if they did I feel they would fuck it up to

[@Ryanfinder226]

Always beleived personally that look in Duncan’s eye at the end of his life there was him realizing loghain’s betrayal. He knew the plan and saw we as the MC got the beacon lit, so he realized loghain must not have responded to it. Died in his last moments knowing exactly who was responsible.

[@brummyuk-d6f]

Battle was unwinnable anyway. That was the entire point. You want to hate Loghain, you really do. It isn't until later that you realise they completely underestimated how big the darkspawn horde was. Loghain DID make the right call to retreat his forces, as all charging down that mountain would have done is prolong the battle but the outcome would have been the same. Total annihilation of the Kings forces, which would have been disastrous because those forces that retreated made up the meat of the final battle. But Loghain also saw an opportunity to get rid of the 'idiot' king and save Ferelden. I ended up seeing a man that did what he thought best for his country instead of seeing an evil man. It was very well written. Everyone will have their own say on if Loghain is a traitor or not, but you cannot deny that his actions did lead to saving Ferelden in the end.

[@Ryanfinder226]

@@brummyuk-d6f there is nothing definitely showing that loghain was right. I also don’t hate loghain, he’s a great antagonist and his motivations based off old biases make sense. We defeat the darkspawn horde with only a fraction of the forces that loghain started with. It’s entirely possible loghains reinforcements would have allowed the battle to hold long enough for the archdemon to appear and for the grey wardens to try and slay it. It’s left ambiguous whether this would have succeeded on purpose.

[@brummyuk-d6f]

@Ryanfinder226 It's pretty much mentioned several times over the campaign that the darkspawn forces at ostagar were far more numerous than anticipated. Pretty sure there is also a scouting report before the final battle that says the same thing. You are right that it's left up to you to decide if he made the right call or not, but the battle was definitely unwinnable and the game makes no mistake at mentioning that over the course of the game. Loghains forces would not have changed the outcome. You are also outnumbered in the final battle but you take the darkspawn horde by surprise and attack from multiple directions holding only long enough to let the grey wardens defeat the arch dragon. The archdemon didn't appear at ostagar, so there was no way to actually win regardless.

[@Ryanfinder226]

@@brummyuk-d6f it is true there are more darkspawn than anticipated, but that’s not the defeat you think it is. Blights always outnumber everyone else there’s millions of DS in the deep roads and they come in force during a blight. We hear from a few sources that the reason they chose ostagar was intentionally to use the old fort’s ruins to create chokepoints where the enemy’s numbers can be mitigated. As for the archdemon not appearing, this was the vanguard of the invasion, it’s not going to appear in the first fight that’s true, but using the chokepoints of ostagar and the reinforcements hammering the bogged down DS to hopefully rout the horde, they could have bought more time for it to appear. Regardless how you think the battle would have gone, even if loghain was 100% right he still made the wrong call. Many of the kingdom’s elite were fighting with the king alongside all of the grey wardens. He could have easily attacked and committed a fighting retreat to pull out the whole army and thus left ferelden’s forces only slightly depleted. Then he wouldn’t have had to make to many tyrannical moves as regent to rebuild his forces.

[@quannguyenle9775]

@@brummyuk-d6f he could prolong it long enough for the elite force to retreat and fight another day, with the king and the grey warden intact, there will be better chance for all human kingdoms to rallies for greater force, then they can send royal emmisaries to demand the help of dwarven and elf, i still believe it is a better choice to did not betray the king, that is why i execute loghain in my playthough

[@SplendidFactor]

Imagine being a soldier in that context, the last blight was over 400 years ago and you only heard terrifying stories about it. Now, there you are facing something many people thought only existed in the past, or not at all even.

[@ThePunkers20]

I am here after watching new trailer for DA: Veilguard to see real Dragon Age.

[@Tonza92]

Same.

[@Thomas-hh3iv]

Same.

[@lightcompanion9696]

Тоже самое, товарищ. Тоже самое. Новый трейлер - сплошное разочарование...

[@oxyman10]

Same as well.

[@nametest2558]

Say you are old without saying you are old.

[@redemption101caleb]

God, seeing this and knowing Wynne was somewhere in the thick of it. She was such a bad ass.

[@jurekovacic1739]

And made it out too, that is the greatest feat.

[@ayylmaotv]

best dragon age game

[@kiverytitan]

I didn't expect to see you here. I'm glad to know that origins is the best for you too

[@oitaga6703]

It still is!!! The others were pretty solid too, but Origins just knew what it was. Also getting to revisit the Hinterlands/Ferelden in Inquisition again was great!!!

[@Foffer1337]

I fucking love DA:O. The good times when Bioware was... well, still Bioware.

[@antonironstag5085]

Early 2010s was peak Bioware. DA:O, Mass Effect 1 and 2, they were among the biggest games at the time

[@MGR822]

I am an Ancient Player and remember good old times of Baldru's Gate 1 :D Bioware was a beacon and an example of how you make an RPG. Now...well, it's gone, I'm afraid of that butchery they will do to Mass Effect soon.

[@clayhyuran]

This is where i decided to become a dual wielder. In memory of Duncan. RIP

[@sylent7638]

No one who made veilguard has watched or played DAO

[@lordfickle8900]

The game director, Corrine Busch I think their name is, didn't even know who Zevran was. Fucking wild.

[@KIT2142LAW]

Everyone who made Bioware what it was left in between 2012 and 2016, including cofounders. Modern bioware is just a corpse on a strings

[@Snappybiscuits]

No, they didn't. But thank fuck they did at least one thing right. They brought DAO back in to the world of gamers.

[@Jedilord882]

@@lordfickle8900 modern gaming is literally dead. I’m over it now.

[@evakhaan]

Они скорее всего прочитали только брошюру с терминами, которая есть в игре и всё 😅

[@danielruiz3250]

at 0615 when duncan sees the tower of ishal and the beacon was lit and the music completely changes is so epic so poetic so sad goosebumps everytime

[@zetagundam20x]

How did we go from this to Veilguard? The latter looks like a Saturday morning PBS Kids special while this looks like high quality dark fantasy ala Game of Thrones. Shame on BioWare for what they did to this franchise

[@MUSIC3787]

it not bioware anymore , there is probably not even 1 person who worked on DA origin

[@capitandiriangen8981]

Who doesn't like dragons?! "Dragon Age Veil guard"

[@brandonkirk5236]

Always liked how Duncan was twisting his blades as he stabbed into the Ogre. That thing killed his King right in front of him, and he wanted it to feel as much pain as possible as it died.

[@eternalsovereign8278]

Grey Wardens aren't political, so Cailan wasn't _his_ king. Even Fereldan born Wardens like Alistair or Cousland aren't allowed to think that way. I agree with the rest of your assessment though.

[@LCWrites24]

​@@eternalsovereign8278 Officially yes, but Duncan was a friend of Cailan's father, was likely present at the Fereldan court as Cailan grew up and probably at the very least was fond of him to want to make sure his killer suffered...

[@RedFloyd469]

Also, I'm sure twisting the knife just does more damage in general, and against ogres, you have to get in as much as you can.

[@antonironstag5085]

@@eternalsovereign8278 True, but they were still friends

[@biggus_19]

Who is here after the trailer of Veilguard?

[@onion8661]

Probably, we should just let it go. I'm not sure if the current BioWare + EA can make a worthy Dragon Age... 😢

[@Ale55andr082]

here

[@Marchochias]

@@onion8661I’m sure that they can’t lol DA2 and DAI were bad enough and those were over a decade ago. Andromeda and anthem is all they’ve made in the last ten years. Stick a fork in them, they’re done

[@colvamoon6962]

​@Marchochias and who's fault is it that Dragon Age went down the path they did? Oh, right, no Bioware or EA, the people who bought DAO. (I say this as someone who bought all the DA games)

[@Duh-pro-of-23]

Getting some real Battle of Helm’s Deep deep vibes coming from this.

[@Moose6340]

Very much so. The Darkspawn in Origins even look very Orcish compared to the "new" Darkspawn in Veilguard.

[@michaelthecoffeedrinker9077]

Now THIS is Dragon Age

[@tazwarahmedjawad4301]

here after the 'Veilguard' trailer dropped. man, how they have changed the tone of the series...

[@AFGuidesHD]

2009 was before the dark times - before the MCU

[@renevil2105]

This was grim dark. Half of the other recruits died trying to become a gray warden.

[@sugoiboi8160]

They even dared to say Veilguard is dark and gritty 😂

[@jelmts]

Iron Man was in 2008 my doggie​@@AFGuidesHD

[@vitoldwisniewski]

@@sugoiboi8160 Bioware doesn't even know what dark and gritty is since most of the staff have left the company and is now a shell of its former self.

[@LaxyDrey]

This classic turned 15 years old last week. It still outclasses the slop they put out last month by almost every single metric.

[@soldatdaniels8738]

One of the scenes that pulled me into the game, having me say, ah ..... what a lovely day.

[@freethesheepn7400]

There is more storytelling in that one little moment in 1:24 than in an entire modern game.

[@captainofthelemonwipes4160]

I agree. Even at 4:24, when Cauthrien orders the men to retreat, you can see some of them look back directly at Loghain, as if silently questioning his order. Even characters with no narrative and wearing helmets have more emotion and subtlety than anyone in Veilguard.

[@monsterclown4455]

We will never get games like these again. It's over.

[@captainahab9602]

At least they can’t take it away

[@Itama22]

No that's wrong. We get great games and masterpieces regulary, just not from Bioware anymore

[@sethcollins5536]

The Japanese at least still make good games

[@Garthorium]

​@@captainahab9602 They can take it away if you only own it digitally, all they have to do is revoke your digital licence and it's gone for good.

[@Bro-dot-]

You will but not from BioWare. Can promise you that, a certain studio will deliver the dark fantasy people want.

[@aeden8008]

Everyone singing the praises of the sequels needs to go back and look at the Battle of Ostagar, and see how far the series has fallen.

[@MjollTheLioness-o4y]

I just finished my first playthrough of this game a few months ago and I was in awe of this scene. I knew then I was gonna love this game.

[@notahamster333]

I still remember how dire and grim this scene was the first time I saw this cutscene.

[@wenterinfaer1656]

5:14 Aragorn if the Ring of Power was destroyed 0.0001 second later

[@varric]

Only in the movie.

[@Shagon89]

He was double lucky - originally they wanted Aragorn to fight Sauron himself...

[@albertocastellana]

questo era DRAGON AGE!

[@cloud3530]

THIS IS THE REAL DRAGON AGE

[@anuma6217]

RIP Dragon Age

[@RDA000]

6:15 me watching veilguard videos

[@kingbrit4583]

I wish the darkspawn in inquisition were more fleshed out. Sure, the descent DLC is centered around them. But it's basically just demons reskinned. Meanwhile in origins, they look like orcs, talk, and look cool as fuck.

[@varric]

I hate the post-Origins design of the Genlocks and Emissaries.

[@eternalsovereign8278]

@@varric And no Broodmothers. That scene in the deep roads where it's revealed what Branka did to her own people in Origins creeped me TF out the first time.

[@varric]

@@eternalsovereign8278 No Broodmothers make sense as Grey Wardens had to seek where those things are hidden. Nobody else can even get that close to Darkspawns nests, so, no one ever sees one in their whole lifes.

[@eternalsovereign8278]

@@varric Yes, but you're not no one. As the main character in any sequel, we have ventured back to the deep roads with both Hawke and the Inquisitor. lol. You shoud know this Varric, as that is how the red lyrium idol and story arc was found in the first place, on your brother Bartrand's expedition, of which you and Hawke were a part of. And as far as seeking out hidden ones, the Hero in DAO comes across half a dozen or more just by happenstance during the Orzammar and dlc storylines. Hell, in the Orzammar one, we even got to see how they are created.

[@varric]

@@eternalsovereign8278 "tHe hErO iN dAo cOmEs aCrOsS a dOzEn dUrInG tHe oRzAmMaR aNd dLc sToRyLiNeS" Wow, 4 Broodmothers at best is now a dozen. And Hawke and Inky never come close to a Broodmother nest. In fact, Hawke was avoiding them.

[@EasytheGoon]

Now look how they have massacred this epic fantasy. The veilguard is the last nail in the coffin.

[@Main_Protagonist]

its over

[@carbodude5414]

Back when the Darkspawn were straight up Chaos Warriors out of Warhammer than some generic undead army starting from DA2 I even prefer their gear being bronze-colored here than the black & white color they have now in the sequels cause bronze highlight blood way better

[@silentsorrowbane]

not much blood nowdays so no bronze needed i guess

[@RedFloyd469]

And veilgaurd turned them into generic skeletons. What a f*cking waste.

[@roach590]

One of the best moments in the history of gaming!

[@cmr2003]

After watching those Veilguard trailers, this cutscene brings tears to my eyes.

[@ACastaigne]

And it's DA:O which makes me refuse to buy Veilguard. This game was the best thing ever when it came out (I was in university) and to see what the franchise has devolved into with Veilguard breaks my heart. The elements of humour present in the first game were almost necessary to give slight momentary relief from the never ending litany of horrors that lurked around every corner...the constant death, the insurmountable odds...and dark, harrowing elements of the story like the Deep Roads and Paragon Branka's forced march of her entire house into them, with terrible consequences. Veilguard forces humour and irony at every single moment, until it becomes one huge joke (at least according to two friends who did buy it).

[@ironbull9794]

the origins was amazing when i first played the game, and it's still masterpiece rpg game in my mind at the present. the other masterpiece one is the Witcher wild hunt .

[@Robertward111]

RIP to the Mabari. They died as heroes.

[@vorgruth3977]

This was true Dragon Age

[@yesenin4life554]

So..we came back here huh

[@TheBurak47]

This was the real dark, medieval Dragon Age. That veilguard is just a disney fairytale

[@trainerred1345]

Back in the day when Bioware was a competent game studio.

[@Barotto87]

they did 2 games after Origin and still we dont have a cutscene more powerfull then this one.

[@ThePariahDark]

Veilguard will never come even close to how this feels, this atmosphere. May it be forgotten, unlike DAO.

[@Moose6340]

Nobody thought to ask the Darkspawn their pronouns, how dare they.

[@chewpu]

DA:O is such a masterpiece.

[@kazetsu6102]

2:29 I stopping myself from screaming "for Ferelden!" with the king

[@reverseflashes]

The way he kept looking at the beacon... He knew the help was not coming, but still... Duncan, the grip you hold in my heart.

[@justsayin.]

Actually I think he was thinking about Alistair and the New Warden. Hoping they are still alive.

[@SheppardGSG]

this never EVER should became a marvel-like story

[@dragonlink2032]

Came back here after seeing all of the Veilguard gameplay and dialogue. It's depressing to see that this series, which had its roots in a story of the outcasts of society being the last defense against the embodiment of humanity's mistakes, culminated in a game where making a bright flashy world with quirky characters talking about gender politics took greate precedent over making a good story. At least we have Baldur's Gate 3, where we can have a dark story with actual dark themes AND lgbtq+ characters without them taking it over. But for now, Dragon Age is dead, at least in my eyes.

[@frederikb.nrgaard3446]

The fact that King Cailan had led a succesfull campaign against the Darkspwan, until he gets betrayed by Loghain, really speaks a lot of Cailan as a king. Though he was obessed, in Loghains words, with the Grey Wardens, he knew the importance of having them at the front and center of the army. Not only for their abilties but also as a morality boost for the common soldiers, due to their legendary reown.

[@2mooch2]

After all those years, this scene still gives me goosebumps. The intensity before the battle, a wickidness of darkspawns, a realization of how much is at stake, the inspiring 'For Ferelden!'. This scene alone is worth replaying the entire game. A fine example of how you make player care about the story, characters and the world.

[@bran1886]

Still waiting for a sequel :(

[@ptitty123192]

"...well THAT just happened!" -Bellara if she were in Origins, probably

[@jester_marley]

I think I’ve played through this campaign at least 10 times, and I’ve never let Loghain live One. Single. Time. I made Zaalbar kill Mission once on a Darkside Revan run (which felt terrible) but I’ve never entertained letting Loghain redeem himself for this treachery.

[@RedFloyd469]

I did. "Redeem" would not be the word I choose. What's interesting is that you get to see his perspective. He's a fereldan Nationalist, forged in the fires of many wars against the orlesian empire. He saw his king as a traitor consorting with the enemy in the most literal fashion. As a man blinded by the empress' beautiful facade as well as words. To him, Orlais couldn't possibly change overnight, from an imperialist opressor into a peaceful co-existor. One way or another, Orlais would invade again, and he saw the king as the one to undo everything the fereldens had fought for for ages. All to become yet another vassal to the ambitions of uncaring, stuck up nobles of the orlesian snake pit. Now, that's NOT the perspective I take on the king's actions. But one thing is certain; the king was a gloryhound. He thought the could end the blight in a single battle. And while that may or may not have been possible, to him it was more important to seek glory and honor in battle than to do the most practical thing. Loghain recognized it. The king's wife recognized it. Loghain believed the battle was hopeless from the start. He believed there was absolutely no way to win against the blight with the numbers and tactics they were presented with then and there. So he retreated. It was treason, it was cowardly, and he pulled many strings to let this act be buried underneath propaganda and lies, but in his mind it was all justified for the continued survival of ferelden. Obviously, one way or another, he was wrong. Loghain did absolutely nothing to unite the different factions that WOULD be useful against the blight. He thought he could win this through a war of attrition, using nothing but ferelden grit and denerim's defenses to hold off against the darkspawn. Instead, Denerim got taken over almost immediately. He, like the king, severely underestimated the blight's sheer mass of troops, not to mention air supremacy. He never truly apologizes for his actions if you recruit him. He only explains his perspective and that he realizes he is a traitor, if I'm not mistaken (it's been years since I last played it). In a way, that's FANTASTIC character writing. The man was devoted to his cause and stuck to his values and beliefs, and was willing to sacrifice the lives of thousands to achieve his goals. He might have come off as a huge prick to us, but perhaps WE are biased? After all, what could 2 grey wardens possibly achieve that duncan and his kind couldn't? What hopes did WE have? Loghain didn't know we were the Protagonist in a videogame. By all known reason, we were doomed if it weren't for plot armor. So while I don't think his actions were entirely justified, they were, at the very least, done with a thought-through intent and a perspective that makes sense. Still, I consider the loghain recruitement to be the bad ending. Allistair becomes depressed and just fades away in some tavern somewhere and loghain gets spared for his treason. If you let him sleep with morrigan HE becomes the hero. That's just NOT what I consider the proper way to end this tale haha.

[@BillyBob-ti2fz]

@@RedFloyd469you have still have Allistar be king and recruit Loghain if you harden Allistar and have him marry Anora

[@Jarjarum]

I still feel bad for the doggies as the first to charge

[@RedFloyd469]

They were the best boys.

[@FunkiestRat]

Every time a new Dragon Age comes out I find myself watching this again to remind myself that it used to be certified funky fresh and not certified dog shit.

[@alexanderpalmer2647]

I think where this battle suceeds at pulling in fans and feeling immersive, compared to later edditions in the series. Is just how much this screams Lord of the Rings battle of helms deep. Its raining...a horde of orcs, and reluctant and afraid soldiers. The developers had a clear inspiration that borders almost piracy. But, its still fantastic. It felt grounded and real. And gives the players a tangible feel of how large the darkspawn horde is, verses the combined might of the Ferelden armies. Its, just...well fantastic.

[@Lightscribe225]

The perfect DA game would have kept the dark atmosphere of origins, the darkspawn design of 2(screw anyone that thinks otherwise, they were proper monstrosities in that one), the variety of human designs in Inquisition, and carry all your damn choices over. Instead of whatever the hell we got. Oh well, here's hoping someone makes a legally distinct Shmagon Shmage Shmorigins someday

[@MrGullisYT]

when D&D thought of the moronic tactics used at the battle of winterfell, they must have thought of this scene

[@mylesjohnmalone841]

At least this looked good, but yeah the tactics here are awful

[@drointhewind480]

​@@mylesjohnmalone841the advisors wanted the army in the fortress but the dumbass king wanted a legendary battle

[@lekharn7950]

Back when DA was so much more than just a high fantasy dating simulator.....

[@tiokirby8172]

I miss the mabaris

[@matix1256]

in this 7 minute we get MORE DARK FANTASY, HORROR, STORY, EMOTIONS, BETTER STORY WRITINGS THAN STORY OF T'RAASH AND HER FRIENDS FROM FAILGUARD

[@cyfertea8707]

I actually loved both Inquisition and Origins but, I didn't actually have an opinion in what's better because the two games have completely different theme, making them pretty hard to compare for me. Dragon age origins, I love the dark gritty tone, I love the characters, I love the politics and world building, I love the tactics of the game, the roleyplay and backstories of each class and races. Dragon age inquisition it has generic fantasy theme but made use of it well showing the beauty Thedas, I love the Orlesian politics, the mage politics and the Orlesian Mages, a new way to see tevinter through Dorian and to see it as an actual normal nation not a cliche bad guy kingdom, I love the characters as well, and the combat animations, I love how its like in Origins where conversation changes depending on your race and class (unlike mass effect where shepard keeps forgetting that he/she is an biotic). Both have different themes and made well.use of them, the only thing I hated about the two games are: For origins, the combat does get boring later on. Inquisition, it took me days to finish side quests for one map, it's too tedious. I replayed Origins more than inquisition, not because I liked it more, but I don't have to play for days to finish side quests. I hope they change that in inquisition (I doubt it) or have a mod that can allow me to skip side quests.

[@irishpatriotv2575]

Inquisition is awful, gameplay is a snore fest thanks to all those grindy/repetitive side quests and how empty the world is, armour and clothing design is terrible, the combat makes fighting in DA2 look good, half of the companions are intolerable and Corpyheus is probably the weakest villain in the entirety of DA, which is especially sad when you consider that the Archdemon of Origins doesn't even talk or really have a motive.

[@cyfertea8707]

@@irishpatriotv2575 I'd agree with the open world (which I think is forced, if the game is a linear rpg like the older Dragon age, I think it would have been way better). The armor system is a bit subjective, since the fan base is divided on that one. Personally tho I prefer the old stat distribution system of DA Origins. I'd disagree with the companions tho, the companions are well written "almost" all the characters are well written for me as well except probably Corypheus. I'd agree with Corypheus tho, personally I'd rather just have the story about the Templar-Mage war than to fight another arch demon. I mean ngl, even tho DA origins archdemon is cool, the thedas politics and history are actually very interesting (at least for me). Heck I'm more interested in the Orlesian civil war, and the templar mages war than the war against Corypheus. It's just Corypheus and the Venatori failed to be a threat. The only real threat the Venatory and Corypheus did is actually their attack on Haven, and the future shown during the mages quest, and after that the Venatory has been outmaneuvered by the Inquisition almost every time. I mean I can't really blame the Venatori, Venatory is filled with zealot cultist or unimportant politicians who just wants some power and some rejected generals who are too unstable to he a proper generals. Now compete that to the Inquisition who has support of the entire Orlesian empire and the Ferelden kingdoms, talented generals and commanders, Political prodigies and even the Queen of Orlais, probably one of the best spymasters in thedas, retired generals who returned to service, and an army trained by Ex templars? Yeah Venatory isn't really going to win that one and that's the problem, they aren't a threat. The final battle is basically the Inquisition mopping out the Venatori with ease, now compare that to (I know this is an unfair comparison) the battle for earth in Mass effect, that was brutal, you can see your own med dying left and right, the desperation of the battle and shows that despite the combined army of the Milky way, they're barely denting the Reaper army, now that is a Threat. Corypheus isn't that, he's just a maker wannabe mage who thinks he's important even tho he's nothing more but a forgotten relic of the past.

[@vndyingtrvsh]

How i miss this gem fuck that gay veilguard

[@16Vagabond]

Cailan may have been foolish, but he's more brave than Loghain could ever hope to be

[@bran1886]

I killed that traitorous cunt

[@brahmantyoihsan5938]

It has nothing to do with bravery. Loghain was a general responsible for thousands of lives; he can't afford to throw them away at a lost cause.

[@mysticwraith6667]

​@brahmantyoihsan5938 How is deserting your comrades and king and almost getting all of Ferelden killed because he thought the Blight wasn't even real till the last minute responsible?

[@brahmantyoihsan5938]

@@mysticwraith6667 The battle was a lost cause. The darkspawn were too many and some of them have managed to find a way behind Cailan's force. There's no guarantee they could reach Cailan in time, and even if they did, many soldiers would die in the process. But for argument's sake, let's say Loghain charge in and kill every darkspawn at Ostagar. What would that accomplish? The Archdemon was absent so the Blight would still continue. Loghain never wanted to kill Cailan. He tried to warn Cailan about the danger, but the king refused to listen. "Loghain, my decision is final. I will stand by the Grey Wardens in this assault." "You risk too much, Cailan. The darkspawn horde is too dangerous for you to be playing hero on the frontline."

[@Chronoir3]

RIP Bioware

[@KennyMShow]

How to make a great game: 1)watch Lord of Rings 2)make a kind of it

[@TheBurak47]

lol

[@KennyMShow]

​@@TheBurak47movie actually way better than book)

[@TheBurak47]

@@KennyMShow lotr movies?

[@KennyMShow]

@@TheBurak47 yep

[@TheBurak47]

@@KennyMShow idk maybe some scenes are better

[@JustMarty]

We went from this to whatever the fuck DAVG is supposed to be...

[@andrescampian5288]

Came here after the trailer for veilguard, it’s a shame how they treat the darkspawn as comedic compared to how they were treated originally

[@solpd3183]

God I love DA:O so soooo much!

[@Lumavah]

This game _needs_ a remaster. I still feel like Dragon Age: Origins is _the_ definitive game for the franchise. It's such a damn shame where it has gone since.

[@RayoSombrio78]

Remember the original Bioware only worked in DAO. The other games were made by different teams. That's why the quality decreased so much.

[@anggahermana6525]

real horror of darkspawns

[@richardjared960]

Kinda sucks that the series peaked here and eventually died with that shit show Veilguard

[@anuma6217]

True but this is one of the best scenes in video game history

[@EvgeneXI]

Don’t care what anyone says, Inquisitions Tresspasser is as good as anything in Origins.

[@DanumSkald]

01:25 your not going anywhere son 😂😂😂

[@antonironstag5085]

RIP Duncan and King Cailan

[@TwinPeaky]

This game was a masterpiece

[@greyngreyer5]

Dat Grey Warden armor :-: t's beautiful

[@dennisbrglum4035]

How the mighty has fallen.

[@robfus]

this was so fucking cool honestly, is cool tht they kinda make you fight on the sideline but i just wish a game tht it goes "epic bttle this way" and just let you be in the thicc of it

[@Aluunyax3]

Back when DA was DA

[@Crusade11722]

This cutscene is just unmatched man. What a BADASS game this was. Beyond disappointed we waited 10 years for Transguard

[@PRIMAL_HUNTER1988]

Dragon Age Origins a Legend that become Myth 😭😭😭😭

[@datemasamune2904]

0:15 Love how everyone is fully suited, and you got this one lady got little equipment on. XD

[@S3KSH3N3IGHT]

lets make everything purple and bloodless LOL

[@B1izzardHawk]

Man, the hound charge at 2:13

[@ryancribbs9034]

Time to replay

[@PRIMAL_HUNTER1988]

I don't know brother i am 35 i can't handle all this emotional tense of the game i am not in my prime years i will start crying 😭😭😭😭

[@andymontanez56]

Im currently replaying now as I've never played Dragon Age 2 nor Inquisition and wish to do so to prepare for the new one this year. Fuck me this scene still gave me chills all these years later. Still a classic, that will never change

[@Gwynbl31dd]

Already did :D finnaly i got it solo nightmare with mage but it was rlly rough after such a long break

[@g.D.997]

For the love of the maker this deserves a remaster for the current Gen

[@sushiwade4095]

It truly does

[@thelastdragonborn8739]

what bring me a smile it the moment the most visioned is when the King say "FOR FERELDEN"...yes my brother and sister for ferelden.

[@eternalsovereign8278]

Really miss the slow motion finishing kills. So much of the dark fantasy and weighted combat got watered down in the sequels. Wish BioWare would have stayed partnered with Edge of Reality for this series.

[@eternalsovereign8278]

DAO is so deserving of a Remake.

[@Mephyst986]

One of the best RPG game. The heyday of game making, when it was still a good thing to be a software developer, has now completely wiped out this profession. The managers get fat on us, and we can barely pay the rent, then they fire us, after the hard work, so there is no loyalty and spirit in today's games, they are only projects in most cases.

[@YoungMrBlue]

How’d this not win game of the year!?

[@renevil2105]

Halo 3 came out same year.

[@andymontanez56]

​@@renevil2105nope. Halo 3 was came out 2 years earlier

[@YoungMrBlue]

@@renevil2105 that was Mass Effect I think MW2 was too hype in 09

[@catalincalinoiu7082]

One of the best scenes in games of all time !