After Four Years, Project M is Changing

[@ordeosca]

it's insane that my whole lifespan of playing this game has been on one patch, excited for what the future holds!

[@SaltInYourEye_ICs]

There nuking ICs. It’s like would war three for us ICs sweats. 😭😭😭, exited for ICs new stuff

[@eeeyrie]

geometry dash players:

[@Nin10doh98]

My only real concern with P+ going forward is the stages. Because good god did some of y'all choose real stinkers that are way too boring and overall not enough variety.

[@theespicypotato]

I second this, stagelist variety was one of the most compelling reasons for me to quit ult and switch to this

[@xtinaxendrix]

fr smashville is so boring legalize rainbow cruise

[@exclamation744]

Wait, you don't love a stage list of basically just two-plat stages? Everyone at the top level does!

[@Sonick92]

Wario-ware and green hill are great stages. Maybe adjust the blastzones on those 2, but I would also add Pokemon transformations (keeping frozen too) because big melee tournaments have it too.

[@Nin10doh98]

@@exclamation744 King Boo ain’t cooking shit

[@purcellworthman3199]

it sure would be cool if they FINALLY got around to finishing Lyn!

[@runaway74]

I was thinking this!!

[@illford]

Not happening they said multiple times on the FAQ page that outside of Knuckles no one is getting added

[@bkebradley]

Super lame they aren't doing Isaac either

[@RockyTheThird]

@@bkebradley A lot of problems comes from people relying solely on Project+ for those characters. I've talked with PMDT and P+ devs about the rest of the forbidden 4 but it ultimately comes down to "they don't have the resources/time and aren't interested". Which is fine, P+ has benefited the game in way more ways than just characters. When it comes to Isaac, Lyn, and Sami legit all is needed are people to volunteer to help work on them. I've spent the last 5+ years studying the game and modeling software with the goal of completing the cast and I do a pretty dang good job contributing. Would highly recommend channeling that energy into motivation

[@freddiesimmons1394]

​@@bkebradleywhole new characters take enormous amounts of work. Isaac was super duper weird though and i would have liked to see it

[@ShinyGBZ]

haven't played or seen a peach in my whole life in this game and learning she has an aerial down b command grab was so fucking cool, and hearing it sucks complete ass because it's a hitgrab and loses to shield is hilarious

[@EclipseKirby]

This brings me back. I retired from this game forever ago and haven't payed much attention to PM/P+ in quite a while, but it's cool to see how things have changed since I played. Maybe I'll get back into it

[@echospace7347]

I’m going to start playing as a result of this video and honestly I’d advise you do so too!

[@GetOffMyLog]

I've been playing exclusively melee since the pandemic and I just got back into P+ three weeks ago and I'm have SO MUCH FUN. I'm trash rn and trying to learn a new character and I'm still having a great time

[@_fudgepop01]

> it's unknown whether PNT is able to be fixed... haha yeahhhh I still occasionally feel bad about my last attempt at doing so giving nana a lobotomy LMAO

[@Hope4NewDay1]

Fudge you already know what you have to do the real question is... Are you willing to do it?

[@echospace7347]

Cool content btw!

[@zKenshi]

It got patched out based on patch notes. “PNT C-stick and buffered methods removed”

[@_fudgepop01]

@@zKenshi I know (and knew as a dev team member ahahah) - it's best to allow for speculation so I didn't say whether or not it IS GOING TO BE fixed!~ But tbh this proper fix wasn't done by me, but instead by some other team members :D

[@zKenshi]

@@_fudgepop01 Pretty cool. Just randomly curious, how come 4 years between the updates? Grouping the progress altogether or all took a break? Either way, outstanding job!

[@SwitchSSB]

I was sad I kept getting bodied in the clips but you had my dope ass combo on Zoey so it’s redeemed :)

[@pkzStar]

happy birthday man 🎉

[@SwitchSSB]

@@pkzStar thank u for ur service 🫡

[@CannibalSerb]

You leaving was content creator's worst nightmare, wolf is such a good combo video character

[@SwitchSSB]

@@CannibalSerb I will stick to my 3ish events per year and do my part 🫡

[@Hack--rz1io]

@@SwitchSSB That's awesome man ♡

[@neilssbm]

poor bbatts he looked so flustered by that ganon uptilt

[@bbatts523]

You had to use that Ganon clip....didn't you....

[@TheCrayonStealer1]

steven universe head ass

[@WombatFights]

An extra bit of info for Squirtle: the hitbox and range of water gun were also buffed. That move was practically unusable in 3.6

[@mawwwkWI]

great recap of the last 4 years and one of the best P+ content pieces i've seen. nice work 🙂

[@echospace7347]

I’m gonna play because of it this looks so cool

[@_Majunior]

Very nice video. I have no knowledge on the p+ meta whatsoever do this was pretty interesting

[@EastCoastBaja]

I love Zubat, but I still think there's room for Yoshi to grow with or without nerfs to everyone that *needs* them LOL hopefully I'll get out to more stuff or at least get back into the lab to help develop the dino some more. Great video!

[@xtinaxendrix]

3.0 patch predictions (watch this spot!) -peach float duration reduced to 1 second -peach dash attack strong hitbox removed -peach neutral air startup 3f -> 5f -kirby aerial hammer invulnerable for first 6 frames

[@_fudgepop01]

Nope! Peach's buffs were just her DSpecial, and kirby got tweaked in other ways

[@SoulOfficer]

great video henry, your narration is very nice and the structure of this video ruled :3

[@HasXXXInCrocs]

Rollback when???

[@GregInTechnicolor]

soon my son... big moves have already been made.

[@Sonick92]

Morsecode has consistently won or placed high and samus is considerd mid-low tier. Outside of balance changes, i just want a better stagelist that will be comitted too. I dont want such drastic regional differences unless its for side events.

[@meyerpictures]

It's sad to say I'm not nearly as familiar with P+ as I am with PM 3.6, but it's great to see it continue to be a game full of wackiness and creativity. It's nice to see the most meta-relevant characters be such out-there ones that you wouldn't typically think of.

[@cloudstrife5175]

Really hope that if P+ ever gets a 3.0 version Lyn gets added!

[@SunlightGwyn]

What a great time to play this for the first time. Just started today!

[@DelanHaar6]

Looking forward to what changes may come!

[@CassiusStelar]

I'm probably the only person in the world to use this mod for single player, I just hope they fix subspace Emissary, it soft locks after that one Diddy Kong and Fox stage

[@fl0wm0ti0n3]

I’m not 100% sure but I think they fixed it in the last update

[@Mike-sp7zv]

Where do you get the game?

[@CassiusStelar]

@@Mike-sp7zv you literally just look it up on google bruh it's not that hard

[@superflameking03]

Anyone think there's any chance of seeing completely new content in this next update (like new stages or characters)? Chances might be low, but it could be fun tho. That's a great way to make sure everyone's talking about it.

[@ThirdXavier]

Thanks makimg me a combo video at the beginning

[@ErazerPhazer]

Man this game has gone through so much since 2014...

[@369destroyer]

I wonder if anyone remembera that Sami was planned for Project M alongside Knuckles, Lyn, and Isaac

[@okcool9898]

I think that P+ will only blow up when it receives Rollback plus Ingame Matchmaking. I am from europe and i have the impression that outside of the US there aint really a community for this mod. I like it a lot tough

[@laneuwu1660]

0:58 thats my local!

[@DrunkenHotei]

This is great and all, but what I'm really chomping at the bit for is brawlback.

[@fingerstripespm]

Fantastic video tuck!

[@patrickrolens]

👏NERF👏TOON👏LINK👏

[@joeyfighting]

HES SPITTINGGGG

[@jakeupl8615]

HES SHITTINGGG

[@Matanumi]

better be damn careful- nerf enough of the game and you will split the already small fanbase. people react worse to nerfs then they do parsing buffs.

[@yourdagan]

I stopped playing when P+ nerfed certain characters instead of buffing others. Removing the bayonet hitbox was just unacceptably ridiculous.

[@freddiesimmons1394]

​@@yourdaganwhat a baby Finding the appropriate place to balance is more important than keeping your widdle feelings coddled. Wolf is still amazing. High tiers don't need that kind of privilege

[@freddiesimmons1394]

People reacting worse to nerfs hamstrung PM development and kept them from just making the best game possible

[@braxinIV]

@@yourdagan ”unacceptably ridiculous”. You’re the exact kind of people this comment was talking about lol. You’re acting like this made Wolf unviable. Please.

[@Liliana_the_ghost_cat]

​@@freddiesimmons1394 to be fair. Loss Aversion is a well documented psychological behavior and that is the kind of stuff game designers must keep into account. Of course, there is a limit though, some nerfs are definetely necessary

[@alphachillua8228]

got recced this vid and as an ike main hearing that hes actually good somewhere... i may have to play this game now

[@_fudgepop01]

If you need a mod for the CPUs that adds custom smart behavior and the like hit me up - ShinyZubat (the Yoshi main mentioned) can vouch for it!~

[@griffendesai2039]

He’s so fucking sick in p+. It’ll ruin every other smash game for you.

[@borkbork9541]

Meta aside, I'm looking forward to any and all surprises they might have in store

[@sucksfeeling658]

12:35 song name?

[@KillerAndMX]

The original is Bramble Blast

[@loganmadface5425]

I have never played P Plus before, does it have rollback?

[@pi2z806]

Not yet but it's in development

[@YangyChaddyDad]

​@@pi2z806as soon as it's released I'm there

[@Nin10doh98]

I’d say it’s now a matter of “when” rather than “if”, so keep an ear out for Brawlback and/or WhiteTPoison updates. I’m thinking/hoping either towards the end of the year or maybe beginning of next year.

[@DreamcastSoupYT]

​@@pi2z806is this by the team itself?

[@echospace7347]

It still has great internet so I’m going to play it

[@echospace7347]

I’m gonna start playing this game. This looks SOOO fun

[@Shadowhawke75]

GREAT VIDEOO

[@Basement_Ckickn]

somehow i’m not surprised that a fan mod of brawl that hasn’t seen updates for 4 years has a better competitive state than the Nintendo-liscenced ultimate, with balance patches for 2 years and frequent content updates and DLCs.

[@dragnjames2190]

The Ult balance team doesn't have all the time in the world that the most popular fan modded version of Brawl devs have. PM has been worked on, patched and maintained by the balance team through multiple iterations since the first PM demo in fucking 2011. In contrast, the Ult dev team has a time limit on their projects and have to move on to bigger and better projects. After Sora's release, the balancing team dissolved and went to work on Tekken 8. They can't keep working on Ult forever.

[@Andycandyman24]

@@dragnjames2190 agreed although i wish they colud work on Ult forever.

[@echospace7347]

@@dragnjames2190Tekken 8?!

[@TheDomlax]

Amazing video as aways

[@jpc7795]

The bounty is still up for a slippi like online platform for this game. SOMEBODY PLEASE GET ON IT.

[@javi994]

They’ve been on it for the last 2 years

[@ChamAramis]

After four years, *Project Plus** is changing.

[@javi994]

They’ve been releasing updates for those 4 years

[@Kushina-43]

Aw no mention of bowser? I haven't really played P+ and I really should soon, but seeing him in low B is really nice

[@esoteric7990]

I actually really dislike the attack to tilt stick change P+ did It was a big part of my neutral game with Bowser able to do instant crouch cancel jabs out of run as well as mixups on contact

[@Freeraining-og7uh]

My recommendation is you should make Falco not a full clone like fox and give him back his original special reflect he had in brawl.

[@javi994]

That move was trash 😂

[@DIce_PPlus]

I really wish the stagelist could be unified, and NOT be the Midwest stagelist. Honestly loved PMBR and would take that every single day of the week over Midwest rn lol

[@DIce_PPlus]

Ik a new patch won’t just “solve” this, but I wish we could just go back/allow for stages to not just be middle 3

[@BronzeAgePepper]

Pikmon is just crazy good. Not sure if he still does but I know at one point he lived in this pretty secluded part of Washington state, I lived nearby and would see him whenever I went to locals back in the PM 3.6 and Sm4sh years. I could never work up the nerve to ask if he wanted to hang out and practice 1-on-1, but he probably would've said no, not out of meanness but just because the dude is just on a whole other level I couldn't come close to. Been so many years since I ever saw him after I left the state, and he's only made even more of a name for himself since.

[@YURTZYN42]

my friends keep telling me to get into P+ and I think its great, but it keeps updating and going through patches. I like getting into a game after it stops updating so I can make the most sense of it and so that my muscle memory doesn't betray me later on as the game ages. Until then I'll just keep watching this game be played.

[@javi994]

This is the first major balance patch for the game in like 4 years The other patches were mostly bug fixes and cosmetic changes

[@hydra4370]

Can we just stop for a second and think about how we got minecraft but not another sonic character 💀

[@Supersonic37838]

Or how we got another xenoblade character or a FF character?

[@Brob2nd]

Xenoblade only had *1* character tho

[@Supersonic37838]

@@Brob2nd Shulk, Pythra

[@Brob2nd]

@@Supersonic37838 i said 'had' for a reason, now it's 3 Xenoblade characters, which i think is enough Xenoblade characters, Sonic still deserves more characters tho

[@Supersonic37838]

@@Brob2nd Dang I’m a dragon ball fan and it’s true, Yeah sonic deserves more justice man. Also happy Sonic’s 33th anniversary.

[@hassoncarmon5779]

I just want meta knight's side special and neutral special to have more combo capabilities.

[@mrh1324]

I wonder if they will make dedede good

[@javi994]

Everyone’s good 😂

[@Hope4NewDay1]

AYE SHOUTOUTS TO ANTHER. FREE THE HOMIE!

[@exxitzero]

Dear Project+ Dev Team: -Please buff Luigi and Dedede that is all

[@theoldfashionedgamerguy665]

Add Lyn while we're at it

[@Mech-HDR]

3.0 is here and it hasn't really changed but knuckles can't kill as early and luigi buffs :(

[@Brob2nd]

Wdym with luigi buffs

[@JoeSmith-db4rq]

Ok but where my Zelda buffs at though!!!

[@KamiSanzo]

its worse than sh double lazer because that thing has hitstun unlike fox's lazer, and it's faster than falco's double lazer too

[@johnleecooper8520]

yall you can cc uptilt without tilt stick it is so free

[@tect0nicssb]

I wish I had P+ locals 😔 maybe I bust out my laptop and run P+ Bo1 side brackets lol

[@DrCoeloCephalo]

My favorite is Wario. Glad he is still good. I sincerely hope Jigglypuff gets more to work with so she us not just a worse Wario. I also hope that they plan on adding more new characters and if that ends up being the case, I sincerely hope Waluigi comes next. The custom Waluigi movesets have come such a long way.

[@ilikepizza107]

Fire video big dog

[@tracystallworth1239]

Ah shit here we go again

[@LylatKnight]

I hope overall performance is improved. This sucker crashed on me if I did so little as look at my Wii funny.

[@herbmaaster]

where is LYN?

[@illford]

They did indeed fix PNT

[@Jaytheone369]

If they nerf sonic in quitting

[@miiguel3550]

If they finished Isaac my life would be complete

[@Padthai_Shrimp]

Comeon roll back

[@protocetid]

it’s coming, just not soon

[@irisofrosebloom8741]

the biggest change the project plus community needs to make is to stop loading incredibly ugly skins and stage textures into their builds

[@GarrisonPhillips]

Can we get waluigi?

[@DreamcastSoupYT]

Look up project m remix, he's in that

[@GarrisonPhillips]

@@DreamcastSoupYT I know but it would be cool if he was in an official build

[@echospace7347]

Wow!

[@AllBladesCut]

Rip sonic Again

[@Roanoke884]

HFR

[@Knuxsega]

Commenting for the algorithm

[@glenc0]

Give me Lyn please let me cheat with a dlc character.

[@DreamcastSoupYT]

Knuckles, he's op

[@glenc0]

@@DreamcastSoupYT yeah but he's cringe. Gimme something I can work with

[@Cherrynasb]

Holy freak I'm ready WOO STANG0

[@kevinascate1281]

DDD could easily move up 10 spots up the tier list if a top player learned his proper combos and entered majors with him.

[@isucc724]

why does it always have to be someone else instead of yknow, you? if you really think he can go that high up, you might as well prove it

[@StarWalker-si4nm]

I hope knuckles does not get nerfed I fucking love that Knuckles is good 😂

[@freddiesimmons1394]

Being weakness-less and having top tier strengths on top of that is not good character design

[@javi994]

@@freddiesimmons1394sounds like 3.02 😂

[@freddiesimmons1394]

@@javi994 rip broken ass sonic etc

[@Bizzone_]

Yeah, idc i always come back to the project m community 🤝

[@miguelsi7543]

👀

[@michaellee7630]

its out

[@Dark-Law420]

Link/Ganon buffs, pls LMAO

[@leelandjamison7598]

Based video

[@t3amtomahawk]

Standing by for Dedede nerfs Kappa

[@Nadamoor]

Give Kirby his 64 uptilt. Do it you cowards

[@sauzeefy]

no ICs nerf pls

[@Heyim18bro]

buff pikachu and i'll be happy

[@akumoth8357]

gib dedede buffs

[@Yeheah]

I know that P+ team are against it, but I think that the only thing that this mod needs (apart for those good things like physics delay fix) is more custom characters. Imagine a new trailer where they announce Dark Samus or Sceptile fighters in P+.

[@seanboglio3605]

samanthude

[@jiyucy]

buff Luigi

[@BullCraftMaxx]

Shame Nintendo won’t let this game be played at tournaments anymore 😢

[@runaway74]

I play it at tournaments every week lol

[@Beastmd]

Please just give link back his gale boomerang

[@freddiesimmons1394]

Why

[@Cork_xx]

[@DadAsHeckk]

let's go they're deleting sonic

[@KrispyKorpse]

Risky posting this on the day of a direct, you might attract the nintendo ninjas lol

[@Matanumi]

they don't give a shit because its nothing smash related coming out anymore

[@mia_2043]

delete ZSS 🙏

[@onthedre]

People still play Project M? I thought it was cancelled.

[@Andycandyman24]

I mean your kinda right.

[@MoeMoe-ti1ut]

No characters, no interest.

[@captainaddison64]

Huh thats a shame, I’ve really enjoyed these mods for their balancing, stages, and quality of life features, not just new characters.

[@cosmosspacecentertelevision]

clickbait title

[@javi994]

Is it really? kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJmto4eDbNdkqqcsi=mha0ZQrXTZK5hRP7

[@MrShadowmario666]

1:38 thats a guy 🤢

[@cheezbrgrman]

You're watching a video about a mod for a game, this should be the least of your concerns whether you battle them in a tournament or friendlies, watch them on a stream or pass by them. If you want to play a game and it happens to have trans people in it, be it in the game itself or people playing the game, and you get mad because of it, you're clearly not mature enough to be playing games period. You don't get the privilege of judging people over who they are if it isn't hurting anyone. We're here to play games, not make people feel bad for being happy with themselves. Either touch grass or get out and stay out of the community.