Afterthoughts on 13.16 4 man ToB speedrun

[@brammer190]

I've never even completed an entry mode run but the way you talk about the planning, execution as well as thinking process makes this entrancing to watch. Very nice work, keep it up!

[@Vasatus]

Love that!

[@yesbop7250]

They did perfectly fine for GM times. Most people will be barely getting by with the current gm times even post all the gear changes etc. They planned to make it doable on release and any other powercreep that applies after is an afterthought. Most people don't plan to learn to pneck, sbswapping, gbing, or sote skips.

[@tookie9]

But GM is not for most people, it's for people who plan to learn. Doable is not something that should be a constant for whole community. It's not doable until it is with enough practice.

[@yesbop7250]

@@tookie9 Agree to disagree. Just be aware that the time is barely achievable for most people that even have the combat level for it assuming ~5% of those that are in that space. Just know that speed running at this level not even .1% of the community cares enough to compete that much. It's a gap in the average player's expectation vs the best of the best expectations.

[@uzi9587]

@@tookie9 gm was literally designed to be extremely hard but doable for people. It worked out perfectly!

[@beastied6886]

Yea the logic is quite flawed. 50% of the strats/gear here thats used came out well after the gm times came out. Zcb/torva/masori/lightbearer etc. With that logic all times need to be changed everytime new power creep gear/weps come in? Pointless endeavour lol

[@tookie9]

@@beastied6886 Different diary times (e.g. obliv diary) were adjusted after power creep. Feel like over long run gagek will make it very accessible which is weird for something that should be the most "prestigious" pvm reward in game.

[@calzskilz]

Fantastic episode Vasatus! Really enjoyed the commentary as usual! Ps. I watched the Moneyraids episodes on repeat for awhile due to the banger music you included!

[@bobmathrotus1474]

15:20 I would love a video on the boak method (assuming that's what you're referring to). I know of the method but it's so incredibly hard to find info on how to do it properly. All I have to work off of is muted clips of streamers doing it. An actual breakdown (of both sides, ideally) would help immensely.

[@Vasatus]

there are good clips in my discord but yeah verzik crab methods is on my to-do list for a future video

[@swaaagquan3540]

This is a good vod and I am thankful for your explanations. Learned a few things.

[@iforgottotochangemynamelma7990]

As many have stated the ramble is actually not rambling (it's more eloquent and comes from someone who has a really deep understanding of the encounter) particularly the nylo segment. Really shows how much it matters to be a team player with some fixed obligations.

[@Tarwarz]

Just found your videos the other day and I would love to see a video on verzik crab popping or be shot in the direction of some other creators that may have some resources. Loved all the videos I have watched

[@Vasatus]

nobody consistently makes high level tob content that i know of, but you can check out horselord if i had to mention someone

[@RollestonRS]

Was going to ask you if you could upload something about crab popping especially on east side because it's such a pain trying to find info on it and notice you do it differently to what info I can find. TY for the uploads loving the content.

[@Luskardoescosplay]

Damn. It's crazy how good you are. I remember learning how to start Xarpus back in Flux from you.

[@ThamArtist]

What's the plugin called where you see the health numbers? I saw it at the Nylocas at the Maiden? Anyone knows? thanks!

[@Vasatus]

tob qol. also check my plugin guide (it's starting to grow outdated but still covers a lot of relevant plugins, it's just missing some)

[@naturalityava3514]

BRO WAS TALKING ON NYLOS LIKE IT WAS A CREEPYPASTA L0L Great video!

[@Vasatus]

Lmao thanks I get a bit intense sometimes

[@twosteptown]

Bro I have no idea what your taking about and I’ve played the game on and off for 25 years. Your a weapon at this game haha.

[@netrunner1826]

would love for you to add the gear set ups for each role and the rough set up per room

[@brandoE12]

Would love those radius markers for the nylos, great video bro

[@Vasatus]

check my plugin guide. it's a bit outdated like this video but the stuff you're seeing here is all included

[@boofosrs]

Please don't stop uploading

[@hislord1]

I just absolutely adore the tangents that you go off on because it's like a poet articulating their thoughts. You have such a beautiful grasp of the language. Are these rambles off the cuff or is it something you prepare ahead of time in a script?

[@Vasatus]

lmao thanks some of it is just me rambling and some of it is scripted :p as i mentioned i do put quite a bit of time in the story and phrasing, but im actually taking an english course right now to improve a little more

[@Player__Unknown]

What's the plugin you use for crabs verzik? Looks like it's nice to help with popping.

[@Vasatus]

radius marker. check my tob plugin guide for all my settings

[@Jjjbbb5678]

Do you happen to know where i can find the radius markers for verzik crabs?

[@Vasatus]

in my plugin video

[@Jjjbbb5678]

@@Vasatus king

[@talkaboutownage]

When did they change the sote orb prayer time cooldown? Great vids man love watching. Did a WDR with you a couple months back

[@Vasatus]

im not sure we noticed it like one or two weeks ago. it's really weird that they didnt mention anything. in fact it is now actually back to how it used to be wayy back (years). one day we were just unable to put our prayers back up and now it's back to normal :D

[@Neckrack]

Always love the commentary

[@XMattyMiseryX]

How do you get the bloat floor that color

[@mrroomi7946]

What did u said abt prayer after taking hits on sote?? I was away from the game for around 6 months

[@Vasatus]

You're old school so you know back in the day you could get your prayers up between orbs right. But then for a while and for whatever reason it was changed to a 5t cooldown which meant you couldnt get prayers up between consecutive orbs. Now it's back to how it was, where you can get your prayers up between certain (still not all) orbs.

[@cotyembry]

what is that skull over your characters body mean? and what plugin is it?

[@Vasatus]

it mean's we're venged. party plugin

[@lawrence3308]

theres a lot of clips of p2 boak pops but no one explains it or has tile markers. ive looked around and everyone seems to be like "just copy what they do in the vid" which isnt exactly helpful. an explaination on how to do it or why it works would be cool

[@RJ---]

howd u get the floor that color in bloat? i really need that

[@Vasatus]

i have a plugin guide where it's thoroughly described

[@Allpowerfulpale]

Incredible, you got a gift for this brah

[@brew552]

When you coming out of retirement man?! I guess there’s been no new metas since to affect timings massively

[@Vasatus]

I was planning to return this holiday season, but unfortunately, some things came up - as they have been... The melee amulet (I forgot what it's called) provides a substantial advantage, hence all the new recs.

[@brew552]

@ ahh yes the rancour, well I look forward to seeing you back!

[@Jinora2099]

HUMBLE 13.16

[@BlessdSniper]

Can you explain the sote changes or where you found out about them? Does that mean you’ll at most only eat 2 balls now?

[@Vasatus]

we found out by accident during moneyraids and tested for a while afterwards, also looking back at older clips etc. it means you can get prayers up between 2 targeted orbs, but not if there's a triple orb (2 targeted and 1 split in between).

[@zsdCKanVOIJANSO]

song at 5:16?

[@Vasatus]

Erik Satie - Gymnopédie No.1

[@Tobonmycox]

jay is actually cracked

[@robertaxe5356]

watched this episode on 1.25 speed, great episode tho!

[@boofosrs]

Please make crab popping content :)

[@alipandh]

Agreed, would love to see a good explaination of that

[@A_Hard_Carry_OSRS]

They're such nice guys, taking a 2 kcer :)

[@homecell1325]

How come ure not streaming anymore, great vid beast

[@Vasatus]

talking more about that in the next video!

[@abposrs]

Jay just too good at tob 🤣

[@S2L_OSRS]

so handsome

[@Wizzyhatg]

Great video You're smashing the CA times, but to be fair the CAs do have to be possible for irons who can't trade around runes/gear so a lot of your advanced strats are not possible

[@Vasatus]

Lowkey that sounds like a fun challenge. I'll ask my team if they would be down to do an ironman speedrun session. I think the results might blow your mind. You have to understand that we're ultra min-maxing and i think we'll get similar (though slightly worse) times with no-trade setups

[@lawrence3308]

an overall time speed run would be super interesting. the trading and booking is necessary but makes chasing pbs and records boring since most of the time is spent between rooms. it’d be cool to see how teams minimize hallway time

[@Vasatus]

@@lawrence3308 overall time speedruns are boring to execute since at that point it's just a (1 down) moneyraid with the team yelling gogogo between rooms

[@Wizzyhatg]

@@Vasatus That would be super cool. Remember Accept Aid is off

[@SuperSentti80]

Augury not worth for nylo waves nor boss?

[@Vasatus]

it's sort of worth, but on average i use range so much that it's worth camping rigour over augury during waves. if i feel like it i'll use augury for bigs and boss tho, but im lazy and it's not impactful enough to switch for every crab imo

[@phenomgaming3245]

Interesting mostly, the long random tangent about nylo possibilities is unnecessary, it is obvious there r many possible scenarios

[@Vasatus]

felt the same but had nothing else to talk about and didnt wanna delete the waves :p

[@SS-pg1hi]

How can I find teams/like-minded people like this to speedrun with this? I'm in a big PVM clan but none of them are committed to run speedruns/resets.

[@Erikkert]

Find a different clan. Or find people from different clans. You’re probably in a community clan.

[@SS-pg1hi]

@@Erikkert Problem is I got lots of friends in the clan and don't want to leave. Is there any other disc or hub where you can find speedrunning teammates with maxed gear?

[@Vasatus]

Im afraid the only solution is to just put yourself out there