part 1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mH6oppatoqeoh5I (it’s not required to watch part 1 because part 1 is kind of irrelevant to this part and it has lots of mistakes about my au and in general)
@xdgamer39262 жыл бұрын
You don't have to do this if you don't want to okay but if you make another video about them reacting to Michael put Michael's family in it please cuz it would make more sense cuz Michael and and the Aftons were split apart for more than 30 years and so it seems natural for Michael to have his own wife and daughter
@KnightsoftheN-ooshi2 жыл бұрын
Like what they said: don’t know if you do this or not also have Gregory as his biological son- I just like this wholesome concept
@TenryuKensuke2 жыл бұрын
Did William realised he act like his so-called father ?
@mikeprescott5633 Жыл бұрын
Your vid are supppppppppper goooooooood!❤🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤ I'm so that I didn't see this sooner!❤😢
@mikeprescott5633 Жыл бұрын
Sorry not so spelling mistake❤😢
@nickm20152 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe the subtle emotions. I did say this on the first part, but I love Evan's thinking. In my opinion, Michael has more than redeemed himself, but I adore how it's not a one-and-done forgiveness moment. Elizabeth being mature and easy to manipulate is so reminiscent of canon, yet so well-fleshed out. I'm so excited to see where your channel goes!
@fluorite35422 жыл бұрын
*Finally, someone who doesn't make c.c forgive Micheal, but instead feels guilty and still loves him. Because people make c.c evil and hate micheal when in reality he never hated micheal and knew that he probably done it by accident although he won't forgive Micheal for making him die. Thats definitely the canon au, I swear it is-*
@fluorite35422 жыл бұрын
@@Somerandomsnickersbar *True. Sometimes, it just feels like half of the fandom doesn't truly understand what it actually means in the FNaF lore and Afton Family lore. :(*
@annalisaundag09272 жыл бұрын
tbh cc is def scared and angry at him for what he did at the same time and is too scared to do anything at michael cause yk his traumatized and plus i dont think he knew what michael has gone to making him hate him till now (prolly) and if he was a vengeful spirit it would be more accurate of him still hating michael
@Masked_terror Жыл бұрын
IKR!
@purplewaves202 Жыл бұрын
thats my au but my cc dose not really give a shit about other people and dose not hate cass
@UrLocalPlebster Жыл бұрын
Yeah so true! :D
@plumcave99422 жыл бұрын
First off, this was fantastic. All around phenomenal. But I wanted to talk about one thing in particular. THANK YOU for mentioning the fact that William was far more responsible for Evans death than Mike. Its such a small thing, but even my favorite creators never take it into account, writing it of as an unfortunate accident that Mike should've known better or labeling it as Mike's fault entirely. Which is stupid. Sure, Mike shouldn't have been such an a-hole, but I really think the majority of the blame goes to the known phycopath and child killer William, who designed the robot. The biggest argument I see directed at me is that "the reason it chomped was cus of the springlocks, it wasn't williams fault" but that doesn't make any sense considering A. Why would there be springlocks present in the mouth when the springlocks are designed to keep the endoskeleton from snapping back into place on a person but the mouth would have no need for them because no part of a person would be in the mouth, and B. even if we did say there were springlocks in the mouth that wouldn't matter because the suit was in ANIMATRONIC MODE, meaning the springlocks couldn't have snapped closed because they were ALREADY CLOSED. And the bite force of any real world animatronic couldn't crush a rotten tomatoe, much less a child's skull. Therefore, the only reasonable conclusion is that William designed the animatronic to have that bite force, which makes sense, considering the whole murderer part. Sorry for the rant, I just get passionate
@K.d_ship2 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that you’re passionate, never lose that fire, friend
@LilRed20222 жыл бұрын
Never thought of it like that! It’s okay to be passionate about the fandom and how people portray it!
@goodbye-_-2 жыл бұрын
I think this is a very reasonable argument, and i completely agree!
@loonley_6565 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't freadbear designed by Henry tho?
@plumcave9942 Жыл бұрын
@@loonley_6565 Partly. It was a cooperation between the two. I wouldn't put it past William to sneak in a few "extra features".
@thiscat5672 жыл бұрын
If William so smart man. Why didn't he break it off as soon as Mrs. Afton brought up wanting kids?
@Raptor_ffK2 жыл бұрын
Just follows the script
@apotato853potatolover32 жыл бұрын
When I saw this comment I started laughing my as* off🤣!
@soluna47842 жыл бұрын
perhaps he saw it as more children to kill if he went along with it
@kioultimatsu90652 жыл бұрын
Drive and ambition can cloud judgement if you love someone and they don't have similar goals as you do, causing you to include them unwillingly.
@lilaclo49332 жыл бұрын
Well he did want a successor of his work. Most fathers back then did. They wanted a son to hand their work down to.
@Carpe_Noctum202 жыл бұрын
Polaroid, you’ve outdone yourself with this. It’s truly rare to find a gacha tuber that puts as much dedication into their creations, and whenever I find one, it’s an instant subscription. Bit of a rant below, so I hope you don’t mind long messages lol, I just wanted to show you how great this was, and how much I enjoyed it! Everything about this was superb. From Williams manipulations throughout it all - especially when you included the mentions of William making Fredbear, which I think a lot of people neglect to remember. It’s not normal for an animatronic to have a bite force to kill a child - it’s more normal for an animatronic to break rather than the skull instead. William designed that thing to kill, likely more so for ‘accidents’ so he could get away with it, much like his design with circus baby, how he was being subtle with things. While I don’t think he planned for CC to die to it, the blame is mostly on William. Michael shouldn’t have bullied CC, but I’ve always chalked that up to lashing out at the tragedies occurring, as a human - especially a young teenager - would tend to do. It’s not right, but it makes it more understandable. And that’s only one thing, his constant manipulations, it was all so perfect, how he tried to turn his family against one another…it was wonderful. I wonder if even William knows Michaels intentions…? Ironically, an elephant from UCN told us those XD I’ve always used Orville’s dialogue to show Michaels goals - “He(Michael) tried to release you…! He(Michael) tried to release us(Missing children)! …” more to that quote, but that’s the bit I was mentioning…it just shows Michaels goals. He seeks to free every spirit - including his father. I don’t even think he hates his father - dislikes him, sure, who wouldn’t? XD. But he had no desire for revenge…only to free them all…it’s interesting to know if Williams even aware of that, or if he is also falling prone to his own outdid yourself, like I said lol. Of course, I don’t know a lot about your Michael in your au…something to keep an eye out for XD Elizabeth was a bit confusing for me in this part - she was…quite different compared to herself in the last part - I’m assuming this is down to your au and it being changed a little? Or not showing it enough last part? Either way, it certainly looks like she has lingering effects of circus baby’s programming affecting her…as well as her own want and desire…but at the same time, her true feelings were showing partially - her guilt over what she did…and her anger…hatred even, at her father, for placing a claw inside circus baby - the animatronic he made for her (I’m also debating whether William intentionally wanted Elizabeth to die as some sort of experiment for immortality lol) - showing up more and more. Elizabeth’s story has always made me sad, so I hope she realises her fathers manipulations and values those that truly love her for her…after all, she’s never good enough for William. Nothing ever is I suppose. And poor Mrs Afton…I can only imagine the trauma she must feel..that she killed her last living son…i molten freddy shows anything, it’s that the spirits inside are…unstable lol. I do also love her being Ballora, considering that’s one of the only places we have Mrs Afton lore - plus her song is far too personal for it to be some random spirit. I could go on for even longer than I already have - but I do have some self awareness at how long my comments are XD - lack of a life and obsession with Fnaf will do that to you ;-; Lmao. I’m looking forward to the VHS tapes reaction, that’s gonna be a big project, but I know you can do it! Just don’t lose track of yourself and the dedication you put into these videos! And hey, if you’re wanting another thing for them to react to, as a bit if a bonus just to traumatise them, I would recommend making them react to ‘You won’t die’ by bonbun films, just if you’re wanting Mrs Afton and Elizabeth to look at what they did :3 always a good but of trauma is great for content XD. Nothing better than a hyper realistic depiction of scooped Michael XD anyhow that’s about it - apologies again for the rant, have a good one!
@polaroid_2 жыл бұрын
thank you so much!!! i don’t want to say too much because i don’t want to spoil my au, but i love your theories! and yeah, elizabeth’s behavior is different for both the au change and just she didn’t show it much last part, so you’re right about that! once the vhs tape reaction video gets done, michael will be there as well to react, so his personality and feelings toward everyone will be shown then! and don’t worry about the long comments, i actually really enjoy reading them!! :D
@lollb1t2 жыл бұрын
Ok i love the fact that you show how William is manipulative, their reactions and emotions were amazing!!! Elizabeth being manipulated by William and also showing regrets even if she dosen't. really made me amazed,it might be a small thing,but it shows how well William's plan went. Love your vids
@claudiahyde1656 Жыл бұрын
Again, like the last video, I love how fast William can switch from enjoying things to becoming spiteful and rage filled. It truly shows how unstable he was, and it allows his psychotic side to shine through.
@_percy_ Жыл бұрын
Thank you, for the first video. The nostalgia, of when Bendy The Bunny wasn’t…complimented.
@_thebandorian2 жыл бұрын
This is so underrated the characters are soo cool! and the expressions are good I like how you didn't made elizabeth and cc act so mature- since they are still children (trapped in a child's body). It's like that they are worried and scared for life since they got killed.
@Leobruh53172 жыл бұрын
FINALLY ONE WITH NO SHIPS🥺✨🛐
@ShadowPuppet734 Жыл бұрын
Finally !!!!
@CocoaBffsyt Жыл бұрын
YESSSS
@ShadowPuppet734 Жыл бұрын
@@CocoaBffsyt É!!!!!! Sorry, I forgot I wasn't talking to another Brazilian... haha. Yeeeeaah!!!!
@UrLocalPlebster Жыл бұрын
I do ship people but uhm i get tried its E.V.E.R.Y.W.H.E.R.E
@UrLocalPlebster Жыл бұрын
@@ShadowPuppet734 OMG HI SHADOW PUPPET LOL 😂
@nekole._.doodles2 жыл бұрын
At the end: Wholesome moment and William being lonely AF but who cares because he deserves it
@BR1A_w6sH3r32 жыл бұрын
10:53 TYSM FOR ADDING THIS MEME THIS IS MY FAV ONE TYSMMMM
@red-dodo Жыл бұрын
Let’s just take a look at the fact the thumbnail of ennard is SO GOOD❤❤
@cl0wn.k0dx2 жыл бұрын
Ugh I just love how well Williams character is portrayed here! I could be interpreting this all wrong! My apologies if so, these are simply my theories and opinions :) I was thinking, something that sociopathic serial killers do is present themselves as a perfect person, while indulging in immoral and violent behaviour behind closed doors. As William Afton seems to be a sociopath he most likely had kids to fulfil the ‘American Dream’. He had a stable income, three kids, a wife, ‘friends’ and he owned his own business. If any of the missing children cases ever led back to him, he’d have plenty of people who, from their outside perspective, would vouch for him. As for the people who got to see his more depraved side, he is a master of manipulation, able to make his children not only blame themselves for everything, but to still have them love and almost idolise him. I believe this theory is even stronger when you consider this was set in the 60s-70s. That was a wild time to be alive, and was when some of the most infamous serial killers were active. Because there were so many murders, some domestic cases, gang related, or serial killers, the police force was often overworked, officers looked past these seemingly unconnected childrens cases. That’s why he got away with it, he was in fact very intelligent, but that doesn’t mean he is a good person at all. Edit: Another point I realised, having children with Mrs.Afton could have been a possessive sort of thing. Divorce was incredibly taboo in the 70’s and women feared they would be unable to survive without their husbands or that they would be ostracised for being a ‘fallen woman’. (I am not kidding, that is an actual quote from same man in the 70’s). Thanks to societal pressures, it was unthinkable for a woman with children to find another partner. William knew this, married and had children with Mrs.Afton knowing full well how hard it would be if she had to leave him. Edit 2: (Don’t mind me psychoanalysing a fictional character) “You wanted a family and I didn’t” Shifting the blame, the way Mrs.Afton phrased the question about their family made it clear she knew it was a failure, narcissism is common in killers and for narcissists failure is not an option, so to both make Mrs.Afton feel guilty and to lessen the blame of his own actions, he blamed his wife.
@polaroid_2 жыл бұрын
i love this!! thank you for writing this, i really love how you analyzed it! :DD
@Serene_Fig2 жыл бұрын
When I tell you I haven't clicked that fast in my life, I mean it. I was so excite for this one and you did not disappoint! I'm loving your au so far and can't wait for the vhs tapes. I really liked how you spaced the videos out. They didn't lean too heavily on angsty or happy, and the off-set to Mike's death at the end was a great conclusion. (Also I died laughing when he poked his head in the beginning).
@tia._.1407Ай бұрын
"GET OUT YOU'RE NOT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE HERE!" BRO I LOVED THAT THE HECK 😭😭 this is an awesome video btw! I loved the reactions and also the character designs are phenomenal and beautiful! (Insert chef's kiss)
@maddienash8178 Жыл бұрын
Funny thing is Michael:what is going on in here? Evan:GET OUT YOUR NOT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE HERE!
@QueenGreenflame2 жыл бұрын
AHHH It's amazing!!!!!!! I'm so glad you made part 2! It's so high quality like DAMN, I wish all RVs were as good as yours 😔
@Johnfromthefnafbooks2 жыл бұрын
WOAH HOT DESIGNS [bro it's a joke stop getting after me]
@gracetheprettyface2 жыл бұрын
🤔 📷 📸
@trygaming79202 жыл бұрын
Woah
@Olive_garden-o3l2 жыл бұрын
Ayo bro?
@farhanashahid27072 жыл бұрын
Aprove
@verybadanimator2 жыл бұрын
🤨📸📸📸
@KatrinaWasHere_2 жыл бұрын
AWE THE HUG AT THE END WAS ADORABLE
@the_cancellor2 жыл бұрын
"Without William again" Ok but like who actually wants to hug that psychopath-eggplant-grandpa-bum? Dude is literally the cause of all the suffering
@DeletedUser_00002 жыл бұрын
These design are beautiful! Great job on the reactions, the characters personalities are shown really well
@SaphireRose-luvsIceCream2 жыл бұрын
2:54 till 3:42 is just- AMAZING OML I LOVE THAT EDIT SM
@Thebreadman2712 жыл бұрын
N- no ships YESSSSSSSSSSSSS
@_eris.2 жыл бұрын
I missed the mrs afton being ballora theory Your videos are so cool
@dumbstudios9713 Жыл бұрын
Nothing like rewatching a good reaction series and reading "just think about the spoon..." without ANY recollection of that dialogue.
@dxxcip2 жыл бұрын
This needs more attention
@kitsunetales122 жыл бұрын
I always found it weird when people ship them together even if it’s au and it’s possessed by some dude because his little sisters soul and other soles are in ennard
@sevdijehavziu30152 жыл бұрын
When the final video showed up at the end when the scooper sccops micheals organs It made even William look away
@dennischan6701 Жыл бұрын
Anddddd Peepa Willy is left out again! Horray!
@Scoksb2 жыл бұрын
Finally a video with no ships it's a good video keep up with the hard work
@hibabe29672 жыл бұрын
polaroid,, u never fail to surprise me. what i like about this video, and ur content in general, is that its interesting to watch. once u get into it, u cant unfocus till the end, and at the end u want more of this! its so addicting- the designs are superb and well done, reactions include dialogues and thoughts of the characters, not just *intense staring* in the screen. i could literally talk ages about how good this reaction is! i swear, ur so good at this! im very excited for VHS tapes, i've tried to find reactions to them, but i didnt really have luck. i hope u have a great day/night and lots of motivation!! 💕💖💕💓💖💕💕💓💕
@Pinaplez_lrd2 жыл бұрын
You are fucking brutal The VHS tapes? That will shatter them I love it
@polaroid_2 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHA yes
@L00nixx2 жыл бұрын
Ok good vid BUT WHY IS THE THUMBNAIL ART SO GOOD 🤩😍✨
@Marballs-2 жыл бұрын
IT ISS
@WormWaffles Жыл бұрын
“we were such a happy family. what happened?” william. william happened
@kinichspouse2 жыл бұрын
☁️🍬: all the emotions i felt throughout this reaction are contradicting each other- this was soo good !! and the way u made william and the others is awesome
@yu0_glitch2 жыл бұрын
I CANT STOP WATCHING THIS THATS AMAZING!!
@cynessalvr2 жыл бұрын
THE THUMBNAIL IS SO PRETTTY
@aiokenn2 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen the scooper scene from michael's pov for a while and i actually felt the fear and pain for a little bit
@Evernlily2 жыл бұрын
Somethings that I realised, like, all of the Aftons deaths must have been so like painful! Elizabeth was crushed inside baby, William was spinglocked( in the process t0rtur3d) Christ head was crushed wich must have been super painful, and Micheal was scooped and he must have felt lime for 10 minutes the pain bc he couldnt have just died instantly
@unicorn69 Жыл бұрын
Ikr
@-Not_Melody-2 жыл бұрын
AT THIS PART I CRYED SO MUCH 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 1:47
@wilbur..2 жыл бұрын
I love the designs
@endl3ss_v01d2 жыл бұрын
“Calm down Evan, Think about the spoon” Got me dyin XD
@Bobbiejoinscore5 ай бұрын
Bro I was foaming at the mouth waiting to see them cry so then I could feel joy at their pain💀
@marionette87392 жыл бұрын
It's a pet peeve of mine when people don't understand that Ennard *HAS NO INDEPENDANT THOUGHT OR EXISTENCE!* They're literally just Elizabeth in charge of the salvaged parts of the Scooped!Funtimes. And, when they collectively exile Elizabeth/Circus Baby from their mass, they become Molten Freddy, while she goes on to become Scrap Baby. Aside from the growing frustration at the (presumably accidental) misinformation, it's a good video, and I otherwise like it a lot; very good characterization.
@kaiaros2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, but I'm at least thankful there's no ships in this one. Aside from people thinking Ennard is its own being with individual thoughts, a big thing is people shipping Michael and Ennard and giving it its own soul. So, I consider this quite a step-up ngl 😭😭 Also because it's easier to look past the AU because the video is really well-put-together and has really good reactions and dialogue :)) But totally agree, I have the same pet peeve.
@Shaaaady-12 жыл бұрын
wow i really liked this the designs were great loved the reaction and the au and personalities overall 5 stars great video :)
@koala_corner1210 ай бұрын
AHHH YOU INCLUDED THAT SPECIFIC HANSEL MEME IM SO HAPPY THANK YOU SO MUCH IM OBSESSED WITH THAT MEME I CANT YESSS HSHAHDJRJJSHE Thats pretty much my honest reaction-
@butterpiefnaffan55922 жыл бұрын
wow that's....WONDERFUL. Why did I not see this before??
@samuelgarcia45492 жыл бұрын
Best reaction video ive ever seen definitely my favourite im liking and subscribing.
@MariFallingUpTheStairs7n7 Жыл бұрын
16:09 i really need that 😃👍
@ayadays8264 Жыл бұрын
thank you to you, for not adding any ships, they are a bit akward for me :))
@B994lifeXx2 жыл бұрын
Amazing:) This is just too amazing:) one of the best reactions I’ve seen about this subject tbh- :)
@Sharksdojazz Жыл бұрын
Your Ennard is beautiful 🤩
@frfrfr_RipBozo2 жыл бұрын
Mike be confused af: 😃
@GukorD2 жыл бұрын
Title : React Michael and Ennard Me : Nope, im outta here Also title : No Ship Me : Im in
@unicorn69 Жыл бұрын
Fr tho
@Shopia_florens Жыл бұрын
Same
@TSUKIHEREWOO2 жыл бұрын
The thumbnail: CALIFORNIA GIRLS WE'RE UNFORGETTABLE🕺🕺💞💞💞😋🎩😱👏👏👏
@AstraCynthia._.2 жыл бұрын
16:10 i love it and willam is rude it the first plays any ME: i want to hug william so hug cause his crying
@vversion762 жыл бұрын
15:07 All starts crying at the same moment except dave ( william )
@brokiecementery69262 жыл бұрын
chef kisses for this bootiful person ***kisses***
@mako-ef9mv2 жыл бұрын
the thumbnaill>>>>>
@catterpawtter1952 жыл бұрын
THE THUMBNAIL ✨😳
@galaxystarshine44822 жыл бұрын
Your thumbnail looks incredible!! Great video too!
@raileyn2 жыл бұрын
react to Fnaf lore in a nutshell? i think good idea.
@marygacha7772 жыл бұрын
This is gonna be so exciting, I cant wait :D
@Adam-tz6so6 ай бұрын
I'm very excited for part three if u do one its so cool how u make the charicter desines
@Steamtrain12 жыл бұрын
the whole video be like: *michael dying every 30 secounds*
@verdesoulcast79332 жыл бұрын
I love that Elizabeth asks why her dad put a giant claw in Baby
@fluttershysparkle50682 жыл бұрын
I was crying at the end
@piperhoop-cz1hf Жыл бұрын
14:37-15:08 the sound of the scooper going off scared me so bad😥
@music-lv3dl2 жыл бұрын
15:50 WHY HELLO THERE OLD SPORT
@Itzlenxzyurfav..2 жыл бұрын
OMGGGG THE DESIGNS IS SO AMAZING I LIKE IT 😉
@still-Miyukuu Жыл бұрын
Poor William they left him behind😢😂
@m_auv37022 жыл бұрын
Bruh spring Bonnie lip biting at the intro was all u had to do. I liked this vid and saved to all my playlists
@le4h_x Жыл бұрын
MANUPALATORR!! Nice and amazing video tho! I love the designs:)
@RedPhantom404 Жыл бұрын
i like how at the end Michael just looks so dumbfounded and then there is William in the back XD
@miathingys63242 жыл бұрын
Ooo can you make them react to the glamrocks and Gregory next
@adrxnrosie33262 жыл бұрын
THE EDITING SKILLS AJAHA(HAUNJANHABBA
@Themisthashiratokitomuichiro142 жыл бұрын
THIS IS THE BEST REACTION VID IVE SEEN
@maxieisacid2 жыл бұрын
Ima sub while I wait for the next video 👍
@Eula_12 жыл бұрын
1:49 NOOOO I MOVED ON WITH THIS AHHHHHH
@Moonbunny061 Жыл бұрын
Man- I love your oc designs!
@viennaswan2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe Elizabeth still loves him after what he did to her -_-
@FnafFreak20122 жыл бұрын
I love this channel 😊❤️
@JaceyAubree10 ай бұрын
THE THUMBNAIL IS SO GOOD
@That-One-Cheez-Hugger Жыл бұрын
William here reminds me of what my Dad said my Grandma on his side is like. Manipulative, and trying to turn her children against each other. For the most part, it worked. My Dad doesn't speak to any of his siblings except one of my aunts
@cottentwt2226 Жыл бұрын
Finally, someone who gives Ennard attention
@FloatyyBrain2 жыл бұрын
“Our children's futures are ruined!” Me: Two of your children never had a future to begin with-
@RainyDays015 Жыл бұрын
The reaction video: 💀 Meanwhile me vibing to the background music: 🎶😁😎
@wolfie73502 жыл бұрын
Awwwww man I was hoping that there will be a part 3 dang it TwT 👍👍👏👏💖
@Lettuce9472 жыл бұрын
Oh my god. The pause button blends into the background.
@snowduck072 Жыл бұрын
William at 3:55:"That may have been an accident." Me:did that springlock really hurt ur brain or something, didnt it?
@AAMKIE__KAYX11 Жыл бұрын
The video made me cry 🙃👍
@anismmuhammad3543 Жыл бұрын
Finally i found one that has NO SHIPS!
@Nzthing Жыл бұрын
I am so happy I found this video bc I was looking for a michael and ennard video that's not a ship-
@I.LoveSoda2 жыл бұрын
ZAMN THOSE DESIGNS THO 😍
@The_ogcarl11 ай бұрын
PLZ TELL ME THAT YOUR MAKING THE PART 3 I LOVE YOUR VIDS AND I WANNA BE JUST LIKE U
@solekeeper Жыл бұрын
Poor William, cryin in the corner
@unicorn69 Жыл бұрын
Which one out of the Aftons deaths do you think was the most painful? Michael’s - Scooper Evan/Chris - Bite of ‘83 Elizabeth - Grabbed by CB William - Springlocked
@CocoaBffsyt Жыл бұрын
I think William because he got fricking IMPAILED IN EVERY WHICH WAY!! And when he stops screaming doesn’t mean he’s dead so it would be slowwwww and painful