Against the Odds: Sethron Minotaurs!!! (Historic, MTG Arena)

[@MTGGoldfish]

If only Neheb wasn't bugged... ;)

[@AdamKeeton]

If only Seth wasn't bugged... ;) (Ironcrag Feat only let's you play one more spell)

[@ScornfulEg0tist]

@@AdamKeeton I prefer Seth with bugs tbh, especially his pronunciation bug

[@DrKawazu]

Lol! Wasn't a bug!

[@TheDanielButt]

Naban*

[@DrKawazu]

I was waiting to see when you would figure out it was not a bug... Still waiting.. ! Lol

[@hobocrab]

14:47 you can't because Irencrag Feat allows only one more spell to be cast, which you did with Deathbellow War Cry

[@TheArbieo]

I forsee a lot of variations of this comment in seth's future, haha.

[@NarffetWerlz]

I mean, Wizards _didn't_ make an unbelievably broken ritual for standard?

[@christopherwoodbury7520]

@@NarffetWerlz No no, the learned the no quick non-green mana ramp lesson long ago. I mean they haven't reprinted dark ritual since mercadian masques and that was one of the most iconic spells of black's power at any price theme. Now if only we can get them to stop printing busted green cards that cheat on mana...

[@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet]

This comment Seth. It’s not bugged

[@ShadowJeanne]

Seth is bugged

[@JustAnotherPest]

Reading the Irencrag Feat explains the Irencrag Feat.

[@thecapuzzi2045]

WHAT??????????? NO. THATS IMPOSSIBILE

[@dylanoshier4064]

Seth: "Naban is bugged!" Luke: "Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong."

[@VRanger100]

14:46 "Something is weird about this." - Seth, please read Ironcrag Feat -- I hope he figures it out later in the video instead of the comments XD 40:53 "Oh this is definitely bugged." Edit: Let's let Seth know on tomorrow's stream @ www.twitch.tv/mtggoldfish

[@Atmapalazzo]

your hopes for Seth's realization is too high.

[@VRanger100]

@@Atmapalazzo Time to spam him on tomorrow's stream @ www.twitch.tv/mtggoldfish

[@JohnSmith-en8xf]

“Nebhan is definitely bugged” doing good Seth

[@blueplayer6197]

Naban* and well who knows he might be bugged, weird how Seth is trying to get Naban which doesn't even exist in his deck and then concludes that it's bugged. Gotta love it when Seth gets card names wrong

[@pablez94]

@@blueplayer6197 actually Neheb*

[@xger21]

@@pablez94 Whoosh

[@abheekpandya8717]

Petition for Seth to change his username to SethronOlive

[@MTGGoldfish]

I might have to, temporarily.

[@jonathansnow21]

Seth, I have to add that I really appreciate the little avatar picture in the top left corner of the recent video thumbnails. They are very helpful. I mean, I know which series you make, but when I'm scrolling through all of my subscriptions or when I'm looking through all videos on the channel, it's a big help.

[@bernabes8424]

This

[@knodalishell5636]

agreed, and they’re really cute pictures

[@MTGGoldfish]

I'm glad they are helpful! I know some people just like my videos, or Crim's videos or Tomer's videos. This should make it easier to know who is making the content.

[@Crazymachin3gun]

Oh irecrang feat is hilarious with the deathbellow combo since u cant spend mana from the neheb bec irecrag feat doesnt allow u to cast more than one spell

[@abrahamrokhsar9119]

Hi guys its Sethron, Probably better known as Saffron Oliveron.

[@MrUltimatesmileyface]

High quality comment right there 😂

[@Threadoflength]

LegendVD played a version of this deck when Jumpstart first came out. He used Crashing Drawbridge as a 2 drop that helps you win the game immediately after Warcrying.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Hmm, if only it was a Minotaur ;)

[@LazyCB]

The calm voice king of Jank Legenvd

[@blueplayer6197]

Seth, reading your cards can explain what they do. And you are also allowed to read your cards during a match. Though to be fair Seth played tons on mtgo where assuming a card is bugged is just something normal that you are supposed to accept is there.

[@streiifi]

14:40 i know seth is gonna ask why he can't cast more spells. He always forgets the downside of his cards like Irencrag feat.

[@ODIRGO]

Seth finished the 5 matches... he was still thinking it was a bug, hahaha

[@MTGGoldfish]

Actually, Seth work up this morning a few days after recording this matches still thinking it was a bug ;)

[@antedeguemon1194]

So this is why he talked multiple times on stream during the week about arena bugs, neheb being bugged and such. At this point he must be playing the long con, he knew all along but chose to entertain us

[@Crazymachin3gun]

Cant believe it minotaurs!!! Also was in middle of ur budget magic but saw this and had to switch over minotaurs are really special to me

[@MTGGoldfish]

They are surprisingly sweet!

[@mauddib7830]

Comedy adventure from 2011 "Your Highness" Let's just say it had very memorable Minotaur scenes.

[@FlawlessRhythmGG]

Sethron: Named after Seth and his favorite deck.

[@Drezha3]

“Is neheb bugged?”.......it absolutely is Sethron. And it could be absolutely nothing else

[@joshuakruger4851]

Thanks for playing an actual minotaur tribal deck with deathbellow! I've seen a few decks but it only plays like two of each and goes control for the rest of the deck.

[@bshell1731]

C3po: The chances of seth going 5-0 with a jank deck is- Han Solo: Never tell me the odds!

[@emyron1843]

It seems as though this comment section is focused on Nahban, and how he was "bugged"... but holy mother of Ashiok, this man just went 5-0 with freaking Minotaur Tribal!

[@matthewwright9752]

IRENCRAG FEAT only allows you to pronounce one Neheb correctly for the rest of your game.

[@colerockman385]

Hahaha

[@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet]

I am so happy to see this. It was absolutely glorious

[@chapeldweller]

Everytime Seth said Neheb was bugged my heart broke.

[@joshuapennell8529]

In the second game, you couldn't cast spells because you cast Irencrag.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Why can't it just add seven mana with no downside :)

[@danbarto8876]

You know if storm wasn't a keyword it probably could be. Old magic ruined Ironcrag Feat. Thousand Year Storm with Ironcrag is barely worth playing now.

[@davidstokes6406]

I've been collecting Minotaurs for ages. I went to the University of Texas - you know, the Longhorns - so want to build a 'horns deck. But it never worked very well, until these new additions. That was sweet. I'm going to have Sethron leading my commander deck.

[@TheMattmatic]

This is like watching Seth perform a ritual straight out of Rosemary's Baby. "SETHRON! NEHEB!"

[@DimbyHero]

This made me very, very happy. Thanks for giving Best Tribe another whirl, Seth(ron)!

[@nickhaupt1072]

Held out till the wrap-up hoping he'd read Irencrag Feat at some point, didn't hold my breath lol

[@MTGGoldfish]

Read?

[@MWorl91]

MTGGoldfish Irencrag Feat only allows you to cast one other spell after you cast it. There’s nothing wrong with Neheb

[@ahoy1]

the lamest part of arena is that i BADLY wanna do jank like this but i cant because tier 1 rares and jank cost exactly the same

[@MineRoyale.]

Yeah. One reason the meta stays so stagnant is because exploring new rares and cards is disadvantageous for the average person.

[@rat488]

@@MineRoyale. sadly the free market rare system doesn't really function with dust...

[@dantran3087]

Iiiiiits Sethron, probably better known as hurloon general

[@knodalishell5636]

‘against the odds’ discovers the next tier 1 historic deck

[@lucasenraraujo]

The land flood in match 3 with Seth surprised gasps had me in tears hahaha. One would expect he'd be used to flooding this bad by this point.

[@scoobyHE]

I would love to see Seth be Sethron for Halloween. That, or drakuseth. Both would be hilarious

[@Ghost26968]

God, I just realized we have 3 Nehebs in historic.

[@eddievedderface]

Neheb? It's Na-bahn now apparently.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Neheb tron!

[@colinjones5379]

I mean it has to be named for you right? Sethron is just a portmanteau of Seth and Saffron, it's a janky build around... he even has a beard, although yours is obviously better.

[@zotha]

Both beards strictly worse than Crim's though

[@Lucarioguild7]

@@zotha True that, best beard in the MTG community

[@MTGGoldfish]

I like to pretend that it is, but there's no way of knowing for sure.

[@Valotore]

@@MTGGoldfish Well, maybe the team that designed that card will tell us one day!

[@fuzzyhell]

Please Please Please find a way to create a SaffronOlive Minotaur token! It will be bought!!

[@warrioraidan]

Nobody ever sees the second part of Ironcrag Feat about one more spell.

[@Lapishunter1969]

you couldn't cast spells with the neheb mana in match 2 game 1 since you cast Irencrag feat.

[@nukethewhalesagain]

Did you quit too early at 38:28 ? You had four life left, if he brought back Woe Strider he does two damage for you and then it's your turn. You could still have drawn the combo right?

[@Kettwiesel25]

Agreed. I think he was thinking about his opponent getting back Woe Strider again next turn, but that wasn't possible. Also drawing removal for the Priest was very much possible.

[@mn6334]

It's not really important but Deathbellow War Cry isn't from a "random precon", it is from the THB theme boosters. They had two exclusive rares for each color in those boosters. There's a couple of them that are semi-interesting.

[@ToxicallyMasculinelol]

when you build an entire deck based on a total misunderstanding of the key card HAHA i'm sorry it's just so great. scratching my head during the deck tech trying to figure out if i'm missing something

[@jacobc2378]

Here’s a 👍🏻 just for that intro. Better known as the hurloon general lol.

[@roninnder]

40:58 You couldn’t cast Cut after Neheb because ironcrag feat says you can only cast one more spell this turn, and that spell was Deathbellow War Cry. It’s not a bug.

[@zotha]

That turn from the Jund Sac deck was not "crazy" - that is basically what always happens when you have Citadel, Woe Strider and a decent life total.

[@mattomann1093]

LOOOOVE The play on words with the title!!!!

[@devi403]

Another amazing vid Seth, the deck seems really solid and fun to play!! Might have to throw it together and run a few matches with it! Now make Jellyfish Tribal work ;)

[@robotactics6635]

the "hello everyone" message alone gets a thumbs up!

[@emctwoo]

I almost wonder if running a 2 drop like wily goblin to ramp into good Minotaurs and the combo would be better. Not technically on the tribal theme, but probably a better card. Treasure map would also do the trick and help dig for combo pieces.

[@DoctorChuck]

The 2 drop is mind stone which gives more mana than a treasure token and can draw you into gas when you don't need the ramp anymore.

[@emctwoo]

@@DoctorChuck that's not the only 2 drop tho, he's also running the shitty discard 4/3, when he could be running more cards like mindstone to ramp faster and even draw cards with treasure map

[@ZerFayt]

I love how far the minotaurs have gone since the theros days when I used to play a super janky rakdos devotion beatdown at my local gamestore

[@Trendy67]

I thought I was content with my commander decks for a while and now I'm brewing Sethron lol. This combo looks so satisfying!

[@bryankopkin6869]

Love that intro you should just do that for everything, Seth!

[@knightofsapphire1601]

10:15 We call that "Glory, Glory, Hallelujah!"

[@peytonsizemore3277]

I was wondering if would take a look and possible try this deck I brewed up. I’ve been playing control for years and was looking a more fun way to play the deck while still staying true to the archetype. I arrived at a deck that uses Lullmage mentor and a bunch of counters to get value and threats while still locking your opponent out of the game. I thought it might be a fun deck for you to possible try. Keep up the great work. U/W Lullmage Mentor 4 Lullmage mentor 2 Snapcaster mage 4 Opt 4 Path to exile 4 Mana leak 3 Remand 2 force of Negation 4 cryptic command 3 archmage’s charm 2 logic Knot 1 Negate 2 Jace, The Mind Sculptor 4 Flooded strand 2 polluted delta 2 field of ruin 3 mystic sanctuary 2 hallowed fountain 2 plains 10 Islands Sideboard 2 Graftdigger’s cage 2 ceremonious regection 2 spell pierce 3 aether gust 2 Disenchant 1 negate 3 dragon’s claw

[@melissagrenier2200]

Did deathbellow warcry win a previous poll? I remember this exact shell being used before for a different deck. Against the odds Sethron is pretty much the same deck as against the odds deathbellow warcry except with Sethron added to the mix. Or was it much abrew warcry? Budget magic deathbellow warcry?

[@terryschmitt8050]

Can't cast anything with Neheb because of the irencrag feat. You are only allowed one spell after that and your spell was the warcry.

[@lucasenraraujo]

Such a dumb clause to put in a near unplayable card... I wonder what made them think it was necessary.

[@heartbeat4atinman]

@@lucasenraraujo If Irencrag Feat didn't have the "only one spell" clause it'd basically be Seething Song on crack.

[@lucasenraraujo]

@@heartbeat4atinman but with an already super restrictive casting cost and in an universe where 2 mana rituals exist already, would it be that bad? I think it wouldn't be relevant for any format... Fires of Invention let you cheat Mana twice a turn, ramp can get to seven Mana around the same time you'd cast it. Modern wouldn't want it aside from decks that might want another ritual and even there I don't think it'd be that goof

[@RannekoPlays]

Wouldn't it be better to just use it to fire the Sethron ability anyway to haste on over?

[@Midnightv]

Sethron.... Seth, better known as Saffron. Amazing. You should feel honored

[@Sirscrubbsalot]

I assume all the pent up punts, mistapps, tron matchups, and general unluckyness has finally come full karmic circle for this blessed 5-0. great video! Maybe moonfolk tribal has a chance???

[@lucasaugsten]

Wouldn't the bridge that taps to give your board haste be a good 2 drop for this deck?

[@OGNoNameNobody]

Final deck assessment: Strong combo-to-mid-range deck, but with a SERIOUS weakness to discard.

[@xj40002]

Naban isn't bugged, neither is Neheb for that matter. Irencrag feat has more text XD

[@FableErrejeDMR]

What if you build it like a combo/ control red deck most of times when you play the 8 Mana spell u win the game

[@cyperuswelsh8546]

amazing video as always Sethron of the Olive

[@spellingmitake]

We love you Seth, never change

[@mastarops]

Does anyone have a link to the game that Seth was crashed by minotaurs in modern?

[@matthewlohmeier2056]

Now this is my kind of red deck. Reminds me of dragon storm but not a instant kill. I need to build this just for the surprise jank. p.s. Seth please read Irencreg Feat.

[@ValariaxSword]

Deck is good against an unsuspecting meta. People are lacking on those grafdigger cages.

[@HDMRice]

This is awesome! I love Minotaurs, and started playing Arena again when Neheb the Worthy came in. I’m pretty sure it’s not pronounced Nee-heb, though.

[@KarmicMishap]

Next you'll be telling us it's not actually Nee-sa

[@josht2136]

Expertations; a new word I'm adding to my lexicon

[@DarkX64]

Idk if Aggravated assault is in Historic but that would be an absolutely excellent piece for this deck because you can't cast anything after the combo (Irencrag Feat restriction). I also personally think that if Rageblood Brawler is the best two drop you can run I say to heck with it, mainboard the Abrades and take out the RB's. But this deck really needs either an Aggravated Assault and/or some other permanent based effective mana sink for the mana you get off of NEH-HEB (NOT Naban Seth come on now) The Eternal.

[@ancientswordrage]

That intro, *chef's kiss*

[@goodguyshuckle9270]

so vessel of velocity is just as good as ironcrag feat for pioneer minotaurs. Thinking of building that as a budget deck next time? even with nykthos, your only looking at $96 USD

[@BaneAlleyMagic]

Labyrinth Raptor would work great with Sethron!! Ditch Bloodrage. You could also go with: Dreadhorde Butcher, Kroxa or Rix Maadi Reveler. I think Laybyrinth Raptor would be the best replacement though.

[@frosty980]

Why not use the floating mana to give your team haste?

[@mxspokes]

Correct me if I'm wrong but couldn't he have cast ribbons on his opponent and drained him out with Irencrag Feat during the sacrifice matchup?

[@Zdarkete]

Impressive how Neheb changes names halfway through.

[@tmbocheeko]

So much Deathbellow Warcry content today, with both this and Jim Davis' videos (granted the latter is a stream vod basically)

[@aaroncole9137]

Seth, did you forget the feat restricts you to one spell after it?

[@fizzywizzy0]

Yes. He did.

[@MTGGoldfish]

Maybe...

[@TheQueerLeaf]

MTGGoldfish 😜😜😜😜

[@ExKiwi-yw8er]

Wish the minotaur secret lair was two colors for Kragma Warcaller and Ragemonger. Burning-fist minotaur definitely seems good enough to make the cut in this deck, though.

[@hoakaz7584]

No bugs, is the card of 4 mana tha give u 7 mana, its says that u can oly cast 1 spell

[@averagefox5126]

It's so funny to think about the opponent's reaction when Seth had that turn in Game 1 after literally doing nothing that game

[@mystikatty4526]

It wasn’t letting you cast things because iron crag says you can only cast one more spell and you play dethbellow

[@benjiboy1337]

He managed the intro with a straight face!

[@rat488]

I feel like every time Saffron Olive says Sethron it sounds more and more like saffron

[@dianachavez4251]

It's not bugged, irencrag only let's you cast one more spell, you have to use the mana you gain with Neheb pre combat to pump your team with haste and menace, you could have that kill several times

[@andreaskristiansen6070]

The mana from Neheb comes postcombat right? Or am i missing something?

[@FlawlessRhythmGG]

At the beginning of the video, I thought it was a mistake to run Brawler over Ahn Crop Crasher but after that 5-0, I probably wouldn't change it.

[@trentonsimpson2621]

38:05 Did we not have lethal with Irencrag Feat into Ribbons?

[@TheDracoMaritimus]

2 mana short. Would have only been able to cast X=7.

[@rexxarle]

Man that's great !!

[@BillabongWannabe]

'Naban is definitely bugged' Ill keep that in mind for my etb wizards deck

[@KarmicMishap]

But it's not bugged. Seth couldn't can't more spells off Neheb because of Irencrag Feat

[@BillabongWannabe]

@@KarmicMishap was commenting on seth calling Neheb Naban

[@DecoupageGames]

The Sethron pun

[@andrewrowe1441]

"Hello, it's DrakuSethronOlive, probably better known as Seth"

[@ShadowWalker-ng1it]

Seth can't remember irongrag silence you after the 1st spell

[@danlewis7707]

Sweet deck Seth! Cannot believe how many people are on Jund sacrifice! Why do so many players delight in ruining formats? Now. If you will excuse me I have some Muxus goblins that need playing..... 😎

[@mehtheorc]

Seth was waiting to use that intro lmao 😂

[@MTGGoldfish]

I'd been saving it up for weeks.

[@andrewgolubiewski3463]

*Seth* probably better known as *Saff*-*Ron* Olive. Saff-ron, Seth-ron. Inspiration for name checks out.

[@tmakalpha1]

Is Kragma Warcaller not legal in Historic??

[@JonathanHecht]

Seth! Watch out! Theres a horde of people yelling about reading the full text of irecrag feat heading your way!

[@Toysoldier301]

Seth the ramp spell says only one spell after you cast it.

[@matthewschulte7158]

Never once had I considered playing historic. Until today.

[@P3rs3cutr0ll]

I know that Seth rarely attack while playing magic but with all the mana neheb gives, why not activate sethron to give all minotaurs haste and swing for the win? 🤔 Nevermind "postcombat main phase" 🤦‍♂️

[@ChaosForce08]

Kind of weird that Sethron doesn't have a mana sink better for postcombat given that the previous 2 Minotaur Legends (Eternal Nehebs) give you postcombat mana.