How Much Money Does an Ag Pilot Make?

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We have a lot of questions that come through pertaining to how much money one can expect to make as an Ag Pilot. The truth is that there are so many variables and it's never consistent from season to season but there are some rough ideas in the video. You'll also start by hardly making any money, because of the risk that you bring with you as a brand new pilot. Hope this helps!
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@mdbryan9525
@mdbryan9525 3 жыл бұрын
I retired from crop dusting in 2019. I can vouch for the numbers. My career included 9 years of B747 flying. 2.5 years of Alaska bush flying , 4 years of commuter flying and 22 years of crop dusting. Of those, for me crop dusting was the most enjoyable. Home every night and 6 1/2 months per year off. I actually made more one year crop dusting than I did as a 747 captain.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to head up to Alaska! That sure sounds like fun flying as well.
@mdbryan9525
@mdbryan9525 3 жыл бұрын
@@AgAviationAdventures Don’t do it. Scary scary stuff. I’m glad I lived through it. Seriously, don’t do it.
@Chris_at_Home
@Chris_at_Home 3 жыл бұрын
@@mdbryan9525 A lot of jobs I did up here required me to fly all over the state in all types of aircraft and helicopters. I have a few scary stories where the pilot looked over and said shit I thought we were done. I spent a lot of years around aviation including an enlistment in the P3 Navy and a few years assembling jet engines at P&WA. I worked there in the late 70s. I might have helped assemble your JT9s on that 747.I even had a7ECA Champ about 30 years ago. It was a fun plane but life has changes and got rid of it.
@ryancrazy1
@ryancrazy1 3 жыл бұрын
where did you operate out of that got you home every night? thats one thing I'm trying to figure out about Ag flying. I assume some people are just away most of the time during the season. is your experience average?
@mdbryan9525
@mdbryan9525 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryancrazy1 it really all depends on the company that you’re working for. I did get sent out of town for a couple weeks each season with my last employer but the previous 3 , I didn’t. So if you want more money ( because of slow periods of work) and you are willing to work for a company that wants you flying every day regardless of where they have to send you, then you can choose to work for them. If being home every night is more important than making more money then choose an outfit that doesn’t make you go out of town. I retired from a operation in SD. The places that I worked where I never was out of town were in central Washington state.
@terryspence7230
@terryspence7230 Жыл бұрын
Here in Canada the average pilot wage is $2.00 per acre in 2022. A 500 gal Turbine aircraft usually does around 40,000 - 60,000 acres per season. Average flight hours is from 200 - 300 hours per season. Our season runs from Mid May to end of September. Also we have forestry spraying work in Eastern Canada that runs from end of May to July 1st. Lots of aircraft from Western Canada will be sent to do the forestry run and then return home for the fungicide run. I have over 42 years of spraying flying many different aircraft like the Piper 150, 235, 300, 450 Callair , Ag Cat, Thrush, Air Tractor 401, 402A, 402B, 502XP, 802. Have Fun, Do A Good Job, Make Money.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight Terry! That’s very useful information and I’ve always been curious how things compare north of the border.
@mikedundee65
@mikedundee65 5 ай бұрын
How many hours would you need under your belt for an operator to want to hire you? Or do you just build hours on the job? A canadian asking....
@daveburt1961
@daveburt1961 3 жыл бұрын
You aren't being paid enough risking your life like that......and your talent is a money maker for those of us using your services. You guys rock. BALLS OF STEEL
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@neelsbigwheels
@neelsbigwheels 3 жыл бұрын
Multitasking on point!!! Gold Nuggets through out this video Tyson....Fly Low and Fly Fast
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks for watching Neels.
@andibaumann6932
@andibaumann6932 3 жыл бұрын
I like the channel very much, it so much information. I am watching it out of pure nostalgic feelings, started out „ages“ ago as cropduster
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Andi.
@aviator_z9188
@aviator_z9188 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative video! Thank you for taking the time to make this!
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
You bet thanks for watching
@jamesharber7820
@jamesharber7820 3 жыл бұрын
Solid and eye-opening information. Thank you. I used to “dust” vegetable gardens with my Starduster Too back in the 1980’s.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome!
@jamesriordan7
@jamesriordan7 3 жыл бұрын
Great video once again, Tyson! Thanks for the insight into the industry.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you watching James.
@jamesriordan829
@jamesriordan829 2 жыл бұрын
Hey we have the same name! Lol
@lyonanddebanderson4418
@lyonanddebanderson4418 Жыл бұрын
I love watching you guys, thank you for the videos.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! We appreciate having you here.
@kisssys5414
@kisssys5414 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done video, retired but spent 40 years flying and always wished I could have sprayed a little. Chemicals scared me away. I wish you the best of luck on this channel and flying.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks appreciate you watching!
@429thunderjet2
@429thunderjet2 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Tyson. My Pop charged two bucks an acre with his 235 Pawnee, but that was many many years ago now. He also at different time periods had an Ag Cat, an Ag Wagon, and last of all a 400 Brave. He lost his medical for awhile and had to hire pilots. So while flagging I got to see some dork cartwheel the Ag wagon in on a turn, guy got a little banged up but nothing serious. yup airplane was done for and the dang thing was still practically brand new!
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
It’s tough finding good pilots.
@finnna8352
@finnna8352 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the pay info, I was curious about that. I really loved the rotating panoramic shot your camera does. I get a better feeling for what it's like in you plane. Thanks 😊
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@jeffbailey7328
@jeffbailey7328 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, very informative, I appreciate you talking about your own experience and giving us some roughly real numbers to think about.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
For sure thanks for watching.
@Sterling327
@Sterling327 3 жыл бұрын
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@lukedevillier3098
@lukedevillier3098 3 жыл бұрын
Ok
@lukedevillier3098
@lukedevillier3098 3 жыл бұрын
Ok Ok sounds
@tysonmendel495
@tysonmendel495 3 жыл бұрын
Well I would hope you get paid good cause I have to admit... First I'll say I had thought about crop dusting as a career one time long ago.. but after seeing how low you fly and at what speeds ahh it sent chills down my spine. Flying under power lines! Are ya kidding me! Love to watch your videos!
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Tyson.
@crazyman7000
@crazyman7000 3 жыл бұрын
Always was curious on wages with a shorter, while FAST paced season in the upper great lakes region. Please keep the great content coming Tyson and Cally!!! You guys rock!!!
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks AG appreciate you watching.
@coldfusionspacexxx9814
@coldfusionspacexxx9814 3 жыл бұрын
What is the season like where you fly? Do you spray night? Is it Florida?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
I have a video published on the spray season but it’s 4 months and I don’t do anything at night. I’m up in Minnesota.
@d_pete361
@d_pete361 Жыл бұрын
I've been in a helo during combat flying knap of the earth but you guys give that a whole new meaning. That would be so much fun to do that job.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures Жыл бұрын
You’re deal sounds pretty awesome too!
@greggschultz5768
@greggschultz5768 3 жыл бұрын
Now if you were sitting at a desk, or in your truck telling us this, it wouldn't be as cool as in the cockpit!! I just really like your channel, the content you present and your positive attitude.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gregg.
@jasonmelendez5216
@jasonmelendez5216 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the honest info. Still looking into getting into the industry.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Jason.
@lj5673
@lj5673 3 жыл бұрын
you have a new subscriber!!! im finishing up my private and my goal is to get into spraying! still a ways to go but im soo excited!
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks for subscribing!
@NileMcMillion
@NileMcMillion 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, do I know you from somewhere?
@lj5673
@lj5673 3 жыл бұрын
@@NileMcMillion fancy seeing you here
@dougschueneman1414
@dougschueneman1414 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on what you do to scout a field prior to spraying it and what kinds of things you are on the lookout for?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Check out the ride along video.
@frez777
@frez777 3 жыл бұрын
Great info!!
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@stevebrewer1720
@stevebrewer1720 3 жыл бұрын
A very dangerous job that takes nerves of still and a little live on the edge attitude. Thanks
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@Christ-is-King-
@Christ-is-King- 3 жыл бұрын
Do what you love and the money will come. Hopefully!
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
For sure!
@djquincey4363
@djquincey4363 2 жыл бұрын
Great job. You may wanna discuss what you would make as an owner operator? Maybe your next video? As an owner operator that would be interesting.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
For sure
@disruptiveinnovation9443
@disruptiveinnovation9443 3 жыл бұрын
You are an inspiration so continue doing what your doing. Really enjoy your content! Towing gliders on a single seat crop duster is the single most rewarding and fun aviation experience I’ve had! - commercial Boing pilot with 17 years of experience.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! I started by towing gliders in a Pawnee.
@disruptiveinnovation9443
@disruptiveinnovation9443 3 жыл бұрын
@@AgAviationAdventures best airplane I’ve ever flown! Nothing really worked but it still got the job done. Really miss that bird!
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the one I flew was similar. Airspeed didn’t work and it didn’t have an electrical system. Had to hand prop it every day.
@jimarcher5255
@jimarcher5255 3 жыл бұрын
I watched The most amazing display of crop dusting a rice field outside Beaumont Texas one afternoon. The field had trees at one end and power lines at the other. The pilot would make a pass and pull up into a hammerhead stall turn to reverse course for his next track and he would repeat the maneuver at the opposite end. Usually a crop duster will pull up and make a wide steep turn to align for his next pass. This pilot could complete the hammerhead maneuver turn in 1/2 the time that the steep turn required. Looked like a time saver but awfully risky.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Risky for sure.
@mcrider1960
@mcrider1960 3 жыл бұрын
That would have been fun to watch!
@WryCackle
@WryCackle 3 жыл бұрын
I remember as kid (early 70s in Oklahoma) watching a local ag pilot. In order to continue spraying the field on both sides of the road without having to stop (because of the road), he would fly under the power lines and just keep spraying onto the other field. There were some instances where he would also have to be below the power lines and ABOVE a barbwire fence. Crazy!
@helio_bob1951
@helio_bob1951 3 жыл бұрын
This ag pilot has it down to a profession and he does it the same every day that he gets in the aircraft and doesn’t change his ways and his risks are lower just got a watch out for that high-speed stall at the bottom
@mcrider1960
@mcrider1960 3 жыл бұрын
I've witnessed the same. Precision flying for sure! When I was working for crop-dusters in Idaho, one of our pilots broke the line that goes from the cockpit to the top of the tail when he flew under an electrical line and got a little too close to it. He just laughed it off.
@DiamondDoorsInc
@DiamondDoorsInc 3 жыл бұрын
Our founder started out as an arial applicator before he went on to building hangar doors! It's a great job.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
For sure!
@ChrisCraneyMusic
@ChrisCraneyMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Can you do one on what you think the best ag plane, best for the money, and/or differences?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Chris. I’ll see what I can do.
@mdbryan9525
@mdbryan9525 3 жыл бұрын
A quick note on planes. Air tractors are kind of the standard. They probably sell more than all the rest combined. Your question needs to be answered in context. Do you have 2000 acres to be sprayed? You need a big plane with a large hopper. Is the gallon/ acre high? You probably need a big plane unless the fields are small, in which case a helicopter might be best. Your question is sort of like what’s the best car. It depends.
@RobinGlasco
@RobinGlasco 3 жыл бұрын
I used to think it looked like a perfect job. After reading of two deaths in Kansas recently and seeing one in the ditch upside down moments after it had crashed in Mexico this spring I'm not so sure. I worked on plenty of dangerous jobs in my life, oil field roughneck, high iron construction to name a couple and always walked away much richer. When the pay got too low I'd ask myself if it was worth it. Now I just risk it to keep life interesting. :)
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Not a lot of room for error.
@flatiron53
@flatiron53 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@ryanmcfarland6086
@ryanmcfarland6086 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and info. This is what KZbin is all about.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@michaelbandeko3519
@michaelbandeko3519 3 жыл бұрын
I was an A&P for a crop dusting company in the Imperial Valley,CA. We fly 12 months a year and when cotton is in the field we fly 24 hours a day. During the summer its mostly night flying. All our pilots made in excess of $100,000 a year.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
That would be a great place to fly to make some money.
@miguelmeraz2227
@miguelmeraz2227 2 жыл бұрын
What company did you work for? I’m doing my private pilots license and live in the Imperial Valley. I would like to be a crop duster.
@kesslermontijo6304
@kesslermontijo6304 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, Grew up swamping and flagging for my father (San Joaquin Valley, Ca.) in 50's & 60's, when Stearmans were king! , later in Ag Cats. To maximized earnings , several things, work where the large farming is, an know there are different seasons, pest abatement, defoliiation, etc. and that dusters often times temporarily follow seasons away from home. You also have to deal with work hours that keep you away from family as you're usually home and asleep at about 2 pm. and the seasons are 7 days a week I do know todays aircraft are certainly safer, but I do remember sitting in class at school thinking my father could be hitting the ground in a ball of flame right now! Father dusted for over 30 yrs, 1 mech failure (thrown rod) 1 pilot error, caught wing. Walked away unharmed. Lucky!! But brother and I grew up spoiled brats, money was good!
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Very true Kessler!
@boomerang379
@boomerang379 3 жыл бұрын
The best paid pilots are in the mid south. Arkansas, Louisiana and Mississippi due to the longer growing season and dependence on Ag planes for agriculture. Our pilot flies an 802 Air Tractor and he works every month out of the year. Obviously the growing season is his busiest time with April through October being the busiest and May and June being the peak. Ag planes spread a massive amount of dry urea fertilizer on rice and corn in Arkansas, Mississippi, Louisiana, Missouri and Texas. Our pilot also does variable rate P and K on our soybeans. So if you want to be an ag pilot be prepared to move to a southern state because that’s where the action is. There are more Ag planes working in Arkansas than any other state due to the fact that rice production depends heavily on Ag aviation, Mississippi, where I live comes in second. In a 50 mile radius from where I live there are 50 Ag planes working. At any given moment on a relatively calm day during the growing season you can look in any direction and see an Ag plane in a turn, usually more than one.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Great input!
@excellenceinanimation960
@excellenceinanimation960 2 жыл бұрын
Can someone find a loading position for the winter months? I’m employed up north during the summer and want to try loading but it falls on the busy months for me up here. If I decided to peruse this I would drop what I’m doing of course.
@danielthrasher2332
@danielthrasher2332 Жыл бұрын
I am from Louisiana I have two crop dusting hangers by my house on is about 600 yards in back of my house and one about 3 miles down the road from were i live here in Reddell Louisiana about 3 miles north of Mamou here does planes start flying at 6am till 7pm 7 days a week none stop for about 8 months so yes what you sade is true.🤠
@catfishnet
@catfishnet 3 жыл бұрын
Wisner Louisiana 20 years ago pilots where hitting 100k a season. Many people died, others crashed 10 times and never got a scratch.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that can be part of it.
@davidfornefeld1382
@davidfornefeld1382 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings! Thanks for your fun videos. Just a quick question, although unlikely, is there a place or site where a photographer can find out where and when ag flights might be conducted?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching David. There’s nothing like that available.
@annabobanaasmr8411
@annabobanaasmr8411 3 жыл бұрын
It honestly looks like so fun. My dream is to fly cargo, but also have some kind of bush plane. So if I do learn tailwheel, I'd love to do this. I know you probably mention it in other videos (new here), but how do you keep track of what you've already sprayed?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Anna. Take a look at the GPS video but it keeps track of where I’ve sprayed.
@jakevanderwall647
@jakevanderwall647 3 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy you’re awesome keep it up I’m a commercial pilot but I don’t want to do that what I wanna do is fly low and fast yeah buddy so cool! :-)
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
I was in the same boat as you and didn’t want to go to the airlines.
@leftseatclub
@leftseatclub 3 жыл бұрын
Your video was super informative. I’d love to get you down for an interview to hear more about yourself and Ag flying.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks appreciate you watching.
@stevenhuckaby2902
@stevenhuckaby2902 10 ай бұрын
Very seasonal ,
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 10 ай бұрын
Depends on where you’re located but generally yes it is.
@terrytomlinson8772
@terrytomlinson8772 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up on a farm in central IL and am a senior citizen - our ag sprayers flew Stearman - having flown in the Navy your turbine ag flying has to be better than a day in a Stearman
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
That’s very cool! I’d love to take a stearman for a flight.
@eugeneanderson3534
@eugeneanderson3534 3 жыл бұрын
I have the utmost respect for AG pilots
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Eugene.
@chadwickcloister5143
@chadwickcloister5143 2 жыл бұрын
Living the dream
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
It works for us.
@Dan-xo9ly
@Dan-xo9ly 3 жыл бұрын
Please. Whatever you do, never ever fly for free 'for experience'. Even as a new pilot know that you are worth something and should be paied!
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Dan.
@jetfueljp4
@jetfueljp4 2 жыл бұрын
The loader boys and chemical handlers like me before I could afford pilot training were stiffed badly. And I held an A&P. It's a trickle down effect in the ag aviation world.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah no doubt.
@thiagokuhn8374
@thiagokuhn8374 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video bro, and how long it takes the season? how many months?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
I have some videos covering that but our season is 4 months.
@carloscordova1351
@carloscordova1351 3 жыл бұрын
Nice 😁👍 exelent information
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Carlos.
@carloscordova1351
@carloscordova1351 3 жыл бұрын
@@AgAviationAdventures I like your videos and the information you share.
@IowaFlyingFarmer
@IowaFlyingFarmer 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Tyson. Great video! I am an operator in Iowa and luckily my season finished up 4 days before the Derecho hit. Do you spray in Iowa as well?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
That is good! Yes I help an operator in Creston.
@dobbsy74
@dobbsy74 3 жыл бұрын
@@AgAviationAdventures Creston is my hometown and is where I did my PPL training.
@noahgilstrap1205
@noahgilstrap1205 3 жыл бұрын
Hello great video and helped me answer some questions. However what kind of experience did you have before becoming a ag pilot? Such as what ratings endorsements were you a CFI and did you have a degree? I am possibly looking into this industry and I’m from Texas if you have any additional information from ag pilots down there!
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
I had a college degree but that really doesn’t matter in this industry. I also had my instrument and multi but again neither of those are needed. I had around 500 hours when I got my first job. You may find some answers in the “do you want to be an Ag pilot” video.
@oldhardrock2542
@oldhardrock2542 Жыл бұрын
My Dad's friend was a fighter pilot in WW2. After the War, he flew crop dusters to earn money while going to school. One morning, he had some problems and put thepkane down quite rudely in the middle of a field. He wasgoing to be late for class, so he just high tailed it to class. When he didn't come home before going to class, his wife got real upset.
@RNormanConcepts
@RNormanConcepts 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought it would be fun to just fly low and fast then pulling up and going back.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Haha this would be for you!
@RNormanConcepts
@RNormanConcepts 3 жыл бұрын
@@AgAviationAdventures working on finishing my Instrument and Commercial. So who knows. Ag or Fire Fighting :)
@RoadsideDown
@RoadsideDown 3 жыл бұрын
You REALLY need to connect with @MNMillennialFarmer and see about getting on his Off The Husk podcast! I think you would have an incredible perspective on the Ag world, that most people don't even think about!
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Yes we know of him! I agree. We’ll reach out.
@RoadsideDown
@RoadsideDown 3 жыл бұрын
@@AgAviationAdventures that is awesome! I've been wanting an agricultural aviation perspective on that podcast for a long time! Hopefully you guys can work something out!!
@excellenceinanimation960
@excellenceinanimation960 2 жыл бұрын
Well I’m working on a golf course now and going to school for turf management. I’m mixing and spraying greens with a boom sprayer but Iv always been interested in crop dusting. Would my skills in turf somewhat transfer to crop dusting? I know I would need my pilots license and all but I could get that. I’m 21 now and have another year of school for turf. I know fuel is going up to making everything a lot more expensive which doesn’t help!
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah some things would definitely transfer over.
@pcohen85
@pcohen85 3 жыл бұрын
I keep up with my pay per tach hour and what I have averaged throught my career is ~$200/hr in a 400 gal plane, $250 in a 500 gal and $300 in an 800 gal plane.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
That’s great info thanks.
@finneganfly
@finneganfly 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Patrick. I just retired this week after 45 years and 15000 ag hours. You must have tough work or low rates. My hourly avg in the 802 has been fairly consistent at $500. Of course, I’m in Canada, so I guess that’s around $375 USD. 😕
@pcohen85
@pcohen85 3 жыл бұрын
@@finneganfly Hey Kevin, we do a lot of dry work that we have to ferry which brings the hourly wage down a little bit. There is a lot of competition in this area which drives down the rates as well. How many hours did you fly per season? I am usually around 700 hours at the end of the year.
@finneganfly
@finneganfly 3 жыл бұрын
@@pcohen85 Well that certainly makes sense, then. You’re spending a lot of time not applying product. Most years here my season was around 400 hrs. Primarily Fungicide and desiccation. Back in the 70’s it was all low gal herbicide work. I spent a number of years on potatoes at 5 gpa from the mid-80’s to late 90’s. That was some heavy slugging. Wish I had an 802 back then! I’ve done very little dry work in my 45 years. We had a cat way back when that had done some mine tailing reclamation - the log showed 60+ loads/day. Takeoff, dump, land, repeat. Ugh.
@pcohen85
@pcohen85 3 жыл бұрын
@@finneganfly If I only sprayed you could easily add $100/hr to my averages.
@markh3676
@markh3676 3 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on drones and whether they might make this type of flying obsolete for manned aircraft?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Check out the drone video.
@ryancrazy1
@ryancrazy1 3 жыл бұрын
What is the Work/home ratio like? During the season are you often away from home most nights?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
I travel for about 4-6 weeks but I know others who never travel. Just kind of depends on where you are working.
@ChrisCraneyMusic
@ChrisCraneyMusic 3 жыл бұрын
What plane did you get your PL in and how did you convert over to learning how to fly an ag plane?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
I flew a Cessna 152 for my private. I towed banners in a Pawnee to get tailwheel time and then went into a radial Thrush when I started spraying.
@theyoutubecomment2205
@theyoutubecomment2205 3 жыл бұрын
Do the operators/companies provide you with a place to stay/live during the ag season at the field? Or do you have to find your own living accommodations. and how much they charge typically if they have rooms on field
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
We live out of our camper but some companies will certainly pay for your accommodations. Just depends on what you can work out.
@WillOstrick
@WillOstrick 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, really interesting :) What kind of experience did you have to land that first job ?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
I towed banners and had around 500hr total hours and 150 tailwheel.
@WillOstrick
@WillOstrick 3 жыл бұрын
@@AgAviationAdventures thanks :) always good to hear how someone else got there foot in the door. Keep up the great videos 👍
@CS_247
@CS_247 3 жыл бұрын
Not bad money for driving a tractor... That thing really does look like a John Deere inside the cab. Great respect for what you do, it's tough work. Keep it shiny side up!
@skymaster341
@skymaster341 3 жыл бұрын
@@AgAviationAdventures Hello I am an agricultural pilot on a Cessna 188 and have about 1000 hours experience خبرة Do you have any jobs? The second question Do you have a course for converting to turbocharged engines such as the Air Tractor 502 I am from Libya Thank you so much
@Shadowtoo2
@Shadowtoo2 3 жыл бұрын
I've Never met one that wasn't going Broke, to hear them talk. 🤣
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@tomrobards7753
@tomrobards7753 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah a friend of mine saw someone talk to him or moving from Florida to Kentucky and he that went broke crop dusting full time maybe if you lived in Florida or California where they spray their fruit trees and all that junk a lot and things that you might make good money but forget about it otherwise
@jjohnson2553
@jjohnson2553 3 жыл бұрын
Ain't that the damn truth. I know about a dozen ag pilots and all of them keep whining about not making enough. haha A life long friend just closed his ag business of 30+ years this year when his engine swarmed. He was charging $8.20 acre for 5 gallon spray work. The only thing I've heard them complain about that's even close to the making more money complaint is the price of fuel.
@Shadowtoo2
@Shadowtoo2 2 жыл бұрын
Now that I think about it? The farmer has Always going Broke too. 🤣
@barryvankoughnett4207
@barryvankoughnett4207 3 жыл бұрын
Good video
@barryvankoughnett4207
@barryvankoughnett4207 3 жыл бұрын
The price would be similar for up hear in Canada??
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure what prices are in Canada.
@williambush2924
@williambush2924 3 жыл бұрын
I'm actually in the middle of lessons to get my private pilot's license.. 2 questions, I'm currently a very young 59 years old (I ride a harley and race stock cars.. lol) do you think that's too old to get into AG flying? And 2nd question, what other training/endorsements are needed to do this? Thanks! Love your channel!
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
If you’re committed it’s not too old but it will not be as easy as someone who is 20. The only thing you’ll “need” is your applicators license for the state you spray in.
@judd_s5643
@judd_s5643 3 жыл бұрын
@@AgAviationAdventures you also need a 1st class medical and a Commercial Ticket.
@dkroen17
@dkroen17 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos. How many Ag Aviators also do fire suppression?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
All of the fire pilots I know did ag first. I’m not sure how many out there do both.
@aaronbartels2930
@aaronbartels2930 3 жыл бұрын
Trouble there is the seasons overlap so you can’t really do both 🤷🏼‍♂️
@danhillman4523
@danhillman4523 3 жыл бұрын
This looks like the 2nd best thing to being a fighter pilot.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
I want to be a fighter pilot! I think that ship has sailed though.
@kirklarson116
@kirklarson116 Жыл бұрын
I went the SW Alaska floatplane route but always thought crop dusting would be fun. Typically, about a 4-month season hauling fishermen and bear watchers and fuel and supplies for the lodges in a Beaver. Get about 400-500 hours a season...how many hours does an ag pilot get each year a season? Have been an aircraft owner since my mid 20's to present and now enjoy flying on my own and now have a ground based career. Will continue to watch to see what could have been if I wasn't beating around Alaska.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures Жыл бұрын
That’s my other dream job! I think it would be absolutely amazing to fly in Alaska. Up here pilots usually fly 350-500 hours a season.
@kirklarson116
@kirklarson116 Жыл бұрын
​@@AgAviationAdventures On the surface it may be a dream job. Pay is great but there are brutal days. Have flown in 50 mph winds with (5) 55 gallon drums of fuel to the lodge in the beaver and had to land in the river because the lake was frothed up. I have my Maule and lived in AK for 22 years flying personally when I took this commercial job. My private experience made my commercial work possible. Alone in a plane and cutting loose is appealing to me.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures Жыл бұрын
@@kirklarson116 I suppose it's like anything and at some point it's a job. The scenery has to just be incredible.
@kirklarson116
@kirklarson116 Жыл бұрын
@@AgAviationAdventures Wish there was a way to share pics here.
@agdesignfabrication1009
@agdesignfabrication1009 3 жыл бұрын
A friend lost 2 air tractors as a result of guy wires on cell towers in the same year. I think in between these towers and turbines popping up all over the rural landscape definitely makes spraying a underpaid career. Your thoughts?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of obstacles to watch out for. There is definitely not room for error. But I like the schedule of having the winters off.
@colbysnow7126
@colbysnow7126 3 жыл бұрын
Hello sir, My name is Colby Snow and I’m from south east Arkansas and my family farms row crop. My cousin owns his own plan but hires a pilot to come and fly it. But the main reason I’m writing in the comment section is because I’m wanting to ask you how van I get into a school? Aviation flying school. I don’t go around my cousin because of family issues but I worked for him through my teenage years and I loaded the crop duster. I loaded fertilizer and spray. But at that time being young I never did think to ask this question to him or his pilot. But now that I’m 36years old its time to do something. I love flying. I fly in his and his little cub. I’m a certified diesel tech by trade. I’m just ready for something different if you know what I mean. I just always liked flying..... so I’m trying to see how to get started. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Colby. You’re in a great area and in general Arkansas has a TON of Ag flying. I would go around to different operators and talk with them. Let them know you’re interested in getting into it and if they would be able to point you in the right direction or give you advise. Also take a look at the video “do you want to be a a Ag pilot”. I would make as many connections as you can and see what the job opportunities look like.
@jeffreagan2001
@jeffreagan2001 2 жыл бұрын
you look cool in your helmet
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@anzacday4141
@anzacday4141 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Tyson. Am new here to your channel. Did you ever get your GoPro camera back from when it fell off your Tractor back in October 2019?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
No I didn’t.
@anzacday4141
@anzacday4141 3 жыл бұрын
@@AgAviationAdventures Tyson, I am from Adelaide, South Australia. There are many many Ag Tractors here in Australia and used for various purposes as would be in the USA. I do admire guys and girls like you not only for the work you do but the risks involved. As you are an experienced pilot of the Ag Tractor, are there any improvements that could be undertaken with this aircraft? and if so, do you provide feedback to the manufacturer? All the best and as we say when parachuting. "Blue Skies". Cheers John Purdy
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks John. Yeah Australia has quite a few Ag pilots and fire pilots for sure.
@deimos2k6
@deimos2k6 2 жыл бұрын
I've been flying with B747, crop dusted for 67 years now, then I moved to Alaska doing bush flying, Air Force recruited me as a warp-pulse tunnelig engineers and I worked aboard C17, C5, AN-225 and I believe several ultralight wings also for over 28 years, then I got married and started a carreer on boat-flying, went at war twice bombing enemy fields with some modified crop dusters, then I moved on A380 civil aviation career, after roughly 60 years I was assigned to Mars station at first, then I was transferred to Saturn orbital international station where I got my graduation in crop dusting so far. Now I'm retired but TBH, I didn't take half of a shit of a penny in those jobs. Next time I swear I'll go for door-to-door households selling business. :-(((
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Holy smokes you’ve done it all!
@gsup3874
@gsup3874 3 жыл бұрын
I wanna fly!
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a blast!
@davidwillison2815
@davidwillison2815 3 жыл бұрын
A true farmer.......with wings...
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Haha
@mcrider1960
@mcrider1960 3 жыл бұрын
Do crop-dusters own their own planes or does the company they work for provide the plane?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
You can have both but most of the time they work for a company that owns the plane.
@austinaddington977
@austinaddington977 2 жыл бұрын
I’m in Indiana, what flight schools would you recommend to get into this field and into flying period.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Austin. I can't make any personal recommendations (although hopefully after Cally attends a program this fall for her PPL we can) but I do recommend trying to find an accelerated program where you can go and get your licenses quickly.
@sanchosegui
@sanchosegui Жыл бұрын
Hey, Tyson! Are those net or before tax numbers? If before tax, what percentage would you be taxed?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures Жыл бұрын
That’s before tax. Depends on how you are paid and what the overall sum is but probably figure around 20 percent for taxes.
@jamesmurphy1480
@jamesmurphy1480 2 ай бұрын
When I worked as a truck driver hauling hay, that’s what we made was 25% of whatever the load made
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 2 ай бұрын
That's interesting!
@jamesmurphy1480
@jamesmurphy1480 2 ай бұрын
@@AgAviationAdventures it’s probably just an agricultural standard
@jamesmurphy1480
@jamesmurphy1480 2 ай бұрын
@@AgAviationAdventures because I worked for two or three different farms and they paid the same in Mojave Valley, Arizona
@lmartinez3633
@lmartinez3633 3 жыл бұрын
Do you work in other aviation related job when not crop dusting
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
No.
@XRP747E
@XRP747E Жыл бұрын
I sprayed in South Africa and Rhodesia 68 to 73. I loved the job, but the pay was peanuts. It was unregulated, dangerous and the chemical protection was non- existent in the areas I flew. Fields were marked by humans holding long poles with flags and often forgetting to lower them. I could go on... Nevertheless, I would do it all over again. It was a really rich life experience.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures Жыл бұрын
That’s crazy!! It’s much safer now and we don’t use flag gets in the field.
@mikebell4396
@mikebell4396 Жыл бұрын
Holy smokes that’s a cool story! Where you originally from the US? Where did that experience end up leading you? Thank you for sharing!!
@kellycarlen9605
@kellycarlen9605 3 жыл бұрын
What’s the rectangular red blinky thing on the nose? Non pilot here.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Kelly. Check out the video on the GPS. I explain it all there.
@IHWKR
@IHWKR 3 жыл бұрын
Knowing this information I am curious as to the average maintenance costs for the plane every year.
@lanemoon6266
@lanemoon6266 3 жыл бұрын
If your just flying the plane I doubt you would maintain it. I’m sure the owner takes care of that
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
That can vary quite drastically depending on lord of factors but as a hired pilot you not not paying for the maintenance. Depending on what is getting done a maintenance bill could be $10k-$150k.
@IHWKR
@IHWKR 3 жыл бұрын
@@AgAviationAdventures I could imagine so as a former structures/sheetmetalist for F-15E. What part of Iowa do you dust?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
I have spent some time around Creston and Dennison.
@malekai777
@malekai777 Жыл бұрын
can you tell me where can i buy that book an the shirt you are wearring
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures Жыл бұрын
You can buy the shirt here: agaviationadventures.com/shop I think the book you have to be a member of the NAAA to receive the data/publications. You may be able to reach out to them to request specific information - www.agaviation.org/ Thanks for watching!
@donniepaulson4069
@donniepaulson4069 3 жыл бұрын
Are there positions available for a&p mechanics in ag aviation?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. There are always a few operators it seems like every year that are looking for a mechanic.
@CorPro
@CorPro 3 жыл бұрын
Curious: does it pay to be an owner-operator, or make more sense just to be a hired gun?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Really depends on how much risk you want to take. It pays more as an owner/operator but there is more risk and time involved running the business and keeping customers.
@willjohnson211
@willjohnson211 3 жыл бұрын
George on the rookie Facebook page has been preaching recently that pay will not be very good for newbies
@trevorbenham2501
@trevorbenham2501 3 жыл бұрын
George is a hero for rookies!
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it can take a couple years.
@ronjohnson9507
@ronjohnson9507 3 жыл бұрын
The big question is how much do you have after expenses?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Well this would be for a pilot so there should not be many expenses. Maybe licensing depending on if the company pays for it or not. That could cost $150. And a helmet which is around $3k for the top of the line.
@albertrempel1124
@albertrempel1124 3 жыл бұрын
Is your 2021 season starting already?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Not quite. We’ll head out to Minnesota at the end of May.
@michaelbeyleveld9457
@michaelbeyleveld9457 12 күн бұрын
If you would get paid per acre do you earn any money on your way to the field if it is more than an hour away from the airport
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 11 күн бұрын
Nope, only when you are spraying the field. Whether it's 10 miles from the airport or 40 miles from the airport. However, it's not super likely that you're going to ferry 1 hour for one field. Can be done though.
@flyingfalcon8999
@flyingfalcon8999 3 жыл бұрын
I gotta ask, why the Air Tractor?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
You mean vs a Thrush?
@stevebrewer3174
@stevebrewer3174 3 жыл бұрын
Oh i forgot your in Minnesota no trees an powerlines
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
I wish that was the case.
@macnelson5934
@macnelson5934 2 жыл бұрын
With all the thousands and thousands of crop plots I guess you are given GPS coordinates for a specific one to spray? Explain please. Probably a lot more than that! Many thanks. Mac
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mac. Check out the video explaining the GPS. Short answer is I have coordinates or a shape file.
@marvindurannunez457
@marvindurannunez457 3 жыл бұрын
Since I was a kid I have always wanted to be an ag pilot, I am from Costa Rica.The license to be commercial pilot costs like $30000. But it seems it worth it, I don't know the earnings here in CR, but in USA it sounds good
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
It’s expensive to get the licenses as well but it is a fun job.
@renelioeanjie1485
@renelioeanjie1485 3 жыл бұрын
Hi guys. I would like to make a carrera at 54. Does the AG aviotion industries accept new pilots at this age (54) unlike airlines that after 30 you basically off the market
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah as long as you are willing to put in the work. It’ll take a few years to probably get into an aircraft that can do enough work that you’ll make money to live off of.
@Planecrazy098
@Planecrazy098 Жыл бұрын
Hey man! What’s the best way to get into ag aviation? I’ve got 100 hours of tail wheel training. Just wondering
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures Жыл бұрын
Take a look at some other videos I’ve published that go into more detail on that subject.
@Planecrazy098
@Planecrazy098 Жыл бұрын
@@AgAviationAdventures alright man!!
@ChargedTTq
@ChargedTTq Жыл бұрын
That wage and lifestyle is actually pretty good. Just a hard experience curve to deal with at first. But it helps immensely if you have a wife.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures Жыл бұрын
Having a partner that supports you makes all the difference.
@feelnrite
@feelnrite 3 жыл бұрын
What are income levels if you own the plane and business and also fly the plane?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Figure $60,000 is 20% of gross so you can figure what gross is then subtract all of your expenses. Fuel/insurance/airplane payment/maintenance/utilities/employees etc.
@feelnrite
@feelnrite 3 жыл бұрын
@@AgAviationAdventures Just wondered, the guy that flies here is Rainey Ag and does a good job. Keeps plane top notch has an ag cat with a jet type engine. Not sure I got that right but real quiet but quick. He stays busy and is a perfectionist.
@fredex1290
@fredex1290 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever sprayed in Illinois??
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was there in the middle of July around the Champaign area.
@justinninke6405
@justinninke6405 3 жыл бұрын
How many hours should someone have before trying to do this?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
I was sitting at about 500 hours when I got into it.
@elmerfudd7674
@elmerfudd7674 3 жыл бұрын
How bout the one that makes big bucks all summer, then gets laid off in fall and collects unemployment all winter?? I know one that did that every year. Then mechaniced on the side while drawing unemployment.
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
That’s pitiful.
@lingenfeltera
@lingenfeltera 3 жыл бұрын
What endorsement do you need and what endorsements do the employers expect you to have?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
At a minimum you would need your limited commercial. I know a lot of people that only have the minimum and have no problem getting jobs.
@ignaciocaccia
@ignaciocaccia 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Tyson! Was the hopper tank empty during this video?
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures 3 жыл бұрын
No it had product in it.
@bragginrightsfishing7467
@bragginrightsfishing7467 Жыл бұрын
My biggest question. What health risks are associated with spraying these chemicals all day long??
@AgAviationAdventures
@AgAviationAdventures Жыл бұрын
You don’t fly through your spray and you are in an enclosed cockpit. So your exposure is limited to a certain extent.
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