Age of Ultron Trailer Debate - MOVIE FIGHTS!

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Hal Rudnick (Host of "The Screen Junkies Show"), Spencer Gilbert (Lead Writer "Honest Trailers") and Dan Murrell (Director & Editors "ScreenJunkies") debate with host Andy Signore (Creator of "Honest Trailers") over the following Movie Fights for the week of 10/26/14:
56:25 PICK YOUR FIGHT
02:16 FIGHT 1: Who Will Dominate the 2015 Box Office - Star Wars or Avengers: Age of Ultron?
13:18 FIGHT 2: Best Keanu Reeves Movie?
18:00 FIGHT 3: Can We Take Johnny Depp Seriously Anymore?
23:25 FIGHT 4: Terminator Genisys: Should Arnold Be In It?
29:42 FIGHT 5: Do We Want a New Pee-Wee Movie?
35:40 FIGHT 6: The Nightmare Before Christmas: Christmas Movie or Halloween Movie?
40:03 FIGHT 7: Can A Movie Based On A Board Game Be Any Good?
45:29 FIGHT 8: Best Slasher Franchise: Nightmare on Elm St vs. Halloween vs. Friday the 13th vs. Scream vs. Child's Play vs. Saw
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[@hectormarin5877]

Silence of the Lambs is a dark movie. Se7en is a dark movie. Man of Steel IS NOT - in any way, shape or form - a 'dark' movie.

[@davidmendez3899]

I agree with you but those are really dark movies. kinda weird comparison

[@marv1nperator]

I'm with you. After hearing this reaction as a major complaint about the movie I was surprised actually. Most people probably get this dark vibe due to the cheap instagram-filter all over the movie. That being said, I really liked Man of Steel.

[@Lawdevo]

I think those are a different kind of Dark considering they're R rated movies but in this sense....I think on a non R rated movie would be about it's serious tone that is being used.

[@hectormarin5877]

AKAHimself The only 'dark' concept that the Man of Steel inherits is its gray atmosphere and the gloomy texture of the visual effect's color. Conveying the ubiquity of hope and the genesis of a new dawn does not constitute malice as most perceive it to be. It is sad how nostalgia substitutes one's likability of cinema rather than enjoying the film for what it is, not for what it is supposed to be.

[@davidmendez3899]

batman returns is a dark movie

[@evilbeardedman]

It´s double fun to watch old movie fights, when you already know definitive answers to prediction questions. So many good picks and deep cuts answers that came to life.

[@mtacritic3663]

Marvel fanboys attack DC for their darker tone but once Marvel brings out a darker tone movie they drool over it...

[@rcgamer7780]

LarryBonson Well...I prefer batman the dark knight than 6 iron-man movies.

[@ConcernedFetus]

LarryBonson so true

[@mtacritic3663]

LarryBonson For the most part I think DC and Marvel are two sides of the same coin. Both companies are on opposite sides of the spectrum. Marvel has tended to go extremely comical while DC has tended to go extremely dark. Neither is bad but neither is balanced.

[@Youngerthuggg]

Marvel isn't extremely comical. It's balanced on the other hand, dc is extremely dark and it's not balanced at all.

[@rcgamer7780]

I like dark knight, that is the reason why I love dc.

[@Fortstorm]

I don't think Guardians of the Galaxy was a good sci fi movie. I liked it, I think it's a good _movie_ but not a good _science fiction_ movie. I disagree with the idea that GotG scratched the sci fi itch. Even though Marvel has a huge following, I think Star Wars could still end up on top. Star Wars is an icon of human culture, there's a huge fanbase behind it, whereas Marvel seems to have gotten its bulk from newcomers that got sucked in by the newer movies and have no familiarity with the comics.

[@Fortstorm]

Nathan Holstrom Ok true, Star Wars might not technically be a sci fi series, but it contains everything people love about sci fi. Giant space battles, advanced technology, spaceships, hover-everythings, aliens etc. The only real difference is that there's no attempt to link it to reality. Frankly, I don't think proper sci fi will ever be more than a niche thing because most people won't actually know enough sci to understand the fi.

[@sillymcwilly4866]

Star Wars isn't really sci fi either... well the films anyway, it isn't until you read the books and play the video games when it becomes sci fi and even then it's more fantasy. Guardians is the same way, until you read the comics it really doesn't hit that sci fi button.

[@Fortstorm]

Joshua Kelly Just read my previous comment.

[@Ravenbones]

I have read all the old comics and I love the new marvel movies.. why can't I love both?

[@Fortstorm]

Nathan Holstrom "I just admitted I know very little about this franchise thus making my opinion that it sucks more valid". Nice one.

[@SoulOfSparta]

I'm 17 years old and if I could only watch either AAoU or Star Wars, I'd pick Star Wars hands down. I think AAoU will win the box office though simply because many kids these days had to grow up with the prequels (and were turned off by them) and/or don't have the attention span to watch the originals

[@thegoog.2836]

Kids who grew up with the prequels like the movies, at least myself and my friends do. But nonetheless I agree that AAoU will win box office (For some reason I'm disappointed that a franchise I love will beat another but whatever)

[@invincible1903]

Im 14 years old and i'd choose Star Wars any day of the week.

[@CreeperCraft01]

Flame war inbound. I preferred the prequels. Luke skywalker had no individual character traits he was just a chip of the block good guy. And vader betraying the emperor was dumb and came out of nowhere. Besides grievous and darth maul had better designs in my opinion. BTW I was alive for return of the jedi.

[@roberdygio]

Chica the Chicken why are you saying flame war? it's what you want? Vader bertraying the emperor is like cliche asf dude, but not dumb. Vader just felt emotions to his sons. Grievous and Darth Maul had better designs because... year of creation of the prequel trilogy with the original trilogy is way off different. Bruh

[@alanbeatty4314]

I'm twenty and grew up on both generations of Star Wars. Loved all the old ones. As for the prequels 1 was my favorite movie in the entire franchise 2 was OK 3 was beyond terrible. I'm on the fence about seven. I've also read the entire Age of Ultron comic storyline in the Age of Ultron compendium book I got at my local comic store and I don't think a movie can really do it justice, or Thanos for that matter. All in all, though I think the Avengers will be better than the new Star Wars. Also, I totally grew up watching Pee-Wee's Playhouse.

[@hecr83]

Marvel cant do no wrong huh... Thor - meh Ironman 2 - shitty Thor 2 - Hot Garbage Ironman 3 - poke my eyes out please. Believe me marvel can fuck this up.

[@1995krampe]

***** the enemy felt underwhelming in thor 2=/ i actually liked it also to an certain point but the last fight wasnt good

[@MacPlease]

The Incredible Hulk is the least grossing MCU movie. Also they're killing him off in AoU

[@moviemaker85]

Thor 2 was their best yet. Winter Soldier can take second place in a tie with Iron Man 1. Beyond that, their movies are terrible.

[@1995krampe]

SubZeroWinsFatality hulk is the last one who dies or thor :D They got black widow and hawkeye just some humans with trained skills and you think they will kill off the strongest avenger ever??

[@ffic4life]

*cough cough* look at revenue it brought in cause that's all a studio cares about *cough cough*

[@samfraser767]

I have a suggestion : Best Computer Animated Non Pixar film. My vote goes to Shrek 2

[@cornking6]

Kung Fu Panda.

[@CTMechanix19]

Great Suggestion! Personally I'd say Happy Feet, but that's a good one.

[@Sleeper800]

I'd say How to Train Your Dragon would be my pic, excellent suggestion, I hope they pick it!

[@EnergizedSoul]

Cloudy with a chance of meatball 1 or the first despicable me.

[@Crystyn7B]

Ice Age would be my pick.

[@2chin4u]

If ultron saying "I have no strings" wasn't cool, I don't know what is

[@HrKAG]

I love the stuff you put out, but hearing you talk about the boardgame question really annoyed me. Board games aren't limited to battleships and Monopoly. There are so many fantastic games that I feel could easily be the main inspiration to a good movie.

[@lakemasterex7582]

Although Cap winter soldier was palpably darker than preceding marvel movies, I feel like Avengers age of Ultron will be a lot more grave and dark than anything we've seen before in a marvel movie. This could also be the first time we see a marvel film where the villain prevails and also one which holds more psychological edge than other marvel films. Just looking at Ultron from the trailer, he'll set a more creepy and terrifying spin on the marvel universe which will lead to destruction, not of buildings, but of the Avengers themselves.

[@blackrock316]

This is probably going to be the best villain we have seen since Loki

[@MarcH2os]

So the movie will follow almost every DC movie ever

[@lakemasterex7582]

At least we'll be having an actual memorable marvel villain other than Loki

[@blackrock316]

lakemaster ex I agree..its like they don't put a lot of effort into the previous villains we have seen in the past.

[@JohnnyElRed]

Who is going to dominate? Avengers or Star Wars? All we know that the answer is Disney. They have become too powerful to be stopped.

[@jokesterr119]

Which is why in this stupid Marvel vs DC thing I'm rooting for DC. I don't care if avengers is good or bad or if justice league is good or bad(as long as the batman movie is great!). But in this war, sure both studio heads are on their private island doing blow and whores, but Disneys made and is gonna make HOW much money by 2017? Sure Marvel started in the negative but c'mon, your daddy is the mouse himself!

[@memerick420]

Both of them are very likely going to break Box Office records but I think Avengers will do marginally better.

[@thaiboypsp3000]

jokesterr119 that makes no sense. You think Marvel vs DC fanwar is stupid, but then you go ahead and claim you want DC to win? LOL. Thats like saying Im not gonna be a part of a murder, but I'll help you clean up the mess after ward.

[@jokesterr119]

@Tyranitroll Or it's like watching the Super Bowl and not caring since your team didnt make it but still rooted for the broncos! And what I meant was that this arguing among fans is stupid, but I'm pulling for DC to catch up on the money train.

[@thaiboypsp3000]

jokesterr119 yeah...that means you're siding with DC . I mean not to mention whats wrong with being owned by Disney? but which is fine. I want DC to catch up. It is always good to have competition.

[@timeyinsholaye9169]

Exactly man of steel was a terrible, gloomy, depressing movie. Not once did i feel superman represented hope..not once

[@timeyinsholaye9169]

TheMCRen yes he did save the earth, just did not feel like superman at all... All brooding... What's the difference between this superman and batman? I would actually like to know..how are they opposites like they are in the comics

[@timeyinsholaye9169]

I have never seen such total disregard for human life in a superhero movie before. This is my opinion anyway, if you didn't mind any of that fine

[@skylarcameron6249]

The difference between batman and superman- Batman: has no superpowers, just gadgets. He has a black suit Superman: has superpowers. He had a blue suit

[@jokesterr119]

Oh shit you again? Ok please tell me what exactly specially was it about Man of Steel that made you want to slit your wrist or jump off of a building? PS: you're favorites are the best! Those vids of the two girls kissing, maaan lol

[@TheRyanman345]

jokesterr119 Probably the fact that Superman's father told him to let innocent people die, hundreds of innocent people dying in the fight between Superman and Zod, and Superman defeating his first villain BY BRUTALLY MURDERING HIM. Any of them work really. Take your pick.

[@collegekidmakeup]

Hal said "Board Games" are hardly a thing anymore. That hurt. Our family owns over 40+ different board games at our house that people love to play, at least 25+ card games, and that doesn't include the 40+ different versions of monopoly my dad has collected. Our family has game night every Tuesday and sometimes more often than that!

[@allancastle3428]

Are you being forced?

[@kendel423]

That sounds pretty shitty.

[@Daredhnu]

yeah board games are awesome and anybody who says otherwise ís talking out of their ass.

[@michaelrossell5581]

The Avengers versus Star Wars debate was good. Strong point about young people watching comic book films over and over. Perhaps we should consider that the parents of these young people grew up with Star Wars IV-VI and will be eager to take their kids to a family movie to share their love of the original cast, these kids may then choose to watch them again...

[@Arob4343]

Younger audiences will still love Star Wars. Whether or not you like the prequels, it is true that they introduced many to Star Wars. Also, Clone Wars and Rebels and a myriad of video games have kept the new generation hooked on Star Wars. I'm 21 and can't wait for Star Wars, Avengers, or the next Jurassic Park!

[@jako0981]

board games are very much a thing, they exist alongside comic books. The commercial ones you find in Walmart are shitty, but if you ever find a respectable gaming store, you'll see the magic.

[@mrbossai1]

Do the people at Screen Junkies know that movies exist outside of geek culture. I dig the energy and vibe you guys give off, but I wish it was more focused on a wider ranger of topics. Can you speak about westerns, musicals, and avant garde films? What about international cinema? What about movies from past era's of hollywood like the 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, and 70's? I think you'll eventually burnout your audience if all you do is speak about superhero movies and fantasy properties every week. Again, I like the show. I just wish the content was a bit more varied.

[@icecreamisnice117]

Screen Junkies' audience mainly consists of nerds anyway so I don't see their content getting boring anytime soon. Screen Junkies is however a misleading title as it implies the channel is about films in general and not just nerdy films.

[@theangeliconesm]

icecream is nice Here, Here. Enough with the superhero movies. Nerd's are more deep than you think. I would enjoy to hear about other kinds of films.

[@mrbossai1]

icecream is nice I would say that it will get boring around here real quick if the don't add some variety to the preceedings.

[@bentep0511]

***** I hate it that I lol'd in your comment

[@mrbossai1]

***** Not calling them nerds bro. I'm not against superhero talk. I just wish they occasionally talk about other kinds of movies.

[@richardfilanderer]

The argument on who will have more success was clearly confirmed when the Star Wars trailer came out, I mean, did you see the reaction to it? The Avengers trailer didn't even came near as close to the reaction the Star Wars trailer had, and it was just the fucking teaser. The internet is going to EXPLODE when the official trailer is released.

[@SGC51]

Are you really bashing Andy Serkis' acting ability? If he can do what he doesn in performance capture, what makes you think he can't act outside of that?

[@SKMP]

they are just retards.

[@Kloim]

spideyknowsMC then why are you watching the video?

[@SKMP]

Oh Reginald well....just stating my thoughts...jeez

[@JDirkfilms2]

+Christopher Skalicky he's great in The Prestige!

[@hattorihanzo3188]

+The BROtherhood Go watch LotR and shaddap aalready

[@marknutt4398]

Man of steel was great for the representation of what DC is trying to achieve What don't you people get. MARVEL: Are Mutants or accidents that become these heroes and have other worldly adventures with some dark overtones at times but mostly light. DC: Are Gods and vigilantist that deal with real world repercussions with a darker tone and feeling of threat .

[@jean-christophedetrain7183]

People seem to forget that the first Iron Man 3 teaser was totally dark & gritty too. Same goes for Age of Ultron. This doesn't mean that the movie is going to be dark & gritty.

[@linksmith7071]

Really wanna see Hal & Co. fight over who (or rather) is the best SCARY/FRIGHTENING movie monster/creature: i.e. Carpenter's Thing, Giger's Alien, The Predator, The Critters, Gremlins, you get the idea.

[@AchimaelProductions]

Glad you guys added a fact checker to the show because Johnny Depp's "cuba" movie is The Rum Diary and it's actually in Puerto Rico.

[@joshwilkins9138]

Question for the next movie fight: Benedict Cumberbatch as Doctor Strange- are we excited- yay or nay?

[@jamasianman]

Questions: - Do you feel splitting the last movie of a franchise into two pieces is good or bad? (eg: harry potter, divergent, hunger games, hobbit from 2 to 3 movies) - Favourite Horror movie in the last 4 years? - Do you think Avengers 3 will have Thanos erasing the Marvel universe as we know it, and rebooting the all the franchises with new actors?

[@seanrandall1333]

Nightmare Before Christmas is definitely a Christmas movie. Darker and weirder than a typical Christmas movie, but its heart is in Christmas, and it even ends with all of Halloweentown ice skating and making snowmen. Plus, there are more Christmasy songs than Halloween songs.

[@thinreaper]

Oh Hal, you could have won this is you'd pointed out to Dan that Halloween did NOT invent the modern Slasher flick! Black Christmas (1974) did essentially the same thing 4 years earlier! Great episode though, really enjoyed it!

[@ForNoneOther]

People don't like Jumanji?

[@leilanipigatt1275]

I liked Jumanji.

[@TheOMGHe]

Leilani Pigatt me 2, but i think they didn't focus so much around it because Jumanji is not an actual board game

[@bigshot1535]

duuuude whats a jumanji?

[@JackCharles_Guitar]

I've got to disagree with Spencer though at 4:09. Because if the Marvel Cinematic Universe is to remain interesting, it NEEDS better, more interesting villians. Otherwise, like Mundy said in 'How to Fix Marvel', they will have to keep relying on Loki to deliver a good plot for the Marvel films. The plots will just keep repeating the same structure of: 1. Everything's cool 2. Bad guys emerges 3. Fight (Hero loses) 4. Figure out how to beat him 5. Fight again (Hero Wins) I think it would be more interesting if the heroes don't always win EVERY last fight. This opens up potential cliff hangers like in The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug. I also have to disagree with Hal Rudnick at 8:09. I cannot think of one single film that was a re-boot or extension of a film made before the 90's that was better or even as good as the originals. The Age of Ultron will dominate it a lot easier as it has so much less to risk and the cast is so much better, hands down. And not to mention, a better supportive fan-base to date (especially after the bad response given to the prequels of Star Wars). I have to sit on the fence a bit with what Spencer is saying at 10:20. Yeah, i have to say: It would bring back a lot of nostalgia when we see Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford on the big screen again. But i think one thing is forgotten here. The last time they were in such a big movie was in 1983. Just over 30 years ago. I don't think they'll still have it after that long and with all due respect, their acting skills were nothing of legend anyway. There were no amazing quotes that i can think of from any of them in the Star Wars films. Except maybe Harrison Ford at times. So i have to agree with Dan at 11:20.

[@benpriest1418]

Dan is so out of touch....nobody under the age of 30 knows who Pee-Wee is? Star Wars is for the older generations? What about all the animated series - clone wars etc that appear on kids TV channels?

[@billwithers7457]

Best slasher film is Dale and Tucker Versus Evil. Not only because it's hilarious, but because we see this amazing double-reversal of all the slasher cliches. The initial cliches: A creepy cabin in the woods, psycho hillbillies, the drunken frat guys and girls, etc... It's somewhat expected to see those reversed and the psycho hillbillies are actually cool dudes. But then the second reversal of those cliches where we see the head frat boy become the cliche'd indestructible madman with a chainsaw, strapping the heroine to a board to be cut in half. It's truly a fantastic play on the entire genre. Avengers will crush everything at the box office. Marvel is currently the golden goose and I think that the magic of Star Wars was in the fact that there had never been anything quite like it. Once you finish up the plot of the original trilogy, revisiting it will never net you the same frenzy, unless you bring something new to the table. And by new, I don't mean more lens flares. No, We don't need another Pee Wee movie. I really doubt anyone would actually care enough to go see it. There's more than enough long-since-relevant nostalgia running around these days without Pee Wee Herman's return. Johnny Depp can't really be taken seriously anymore. He'd need, as it was said, his Scorsese to lift him up and make him something other than a self-parody. He is still a good actor, but he needs to break away from Burton before I can take him seriously ever again. Look at the last decade of his work and other than Sweeney Todd and Public Enemies, there's not much there that wasn't a shitfest. Rango, being animated, doesn't really count. (By the way, the movie you couldn't remember is The Rum Diaries. It sucked.) Nightmare Before Christmas is totally a Halloween movie. 90% of it takes place in Halloween Town. It's a fun movie, but it was a bit too dark to be a Christmas movie, as evidenced by the fact that it wasn't even released under Disney, but under Touchstone, because it's NOT a Christmas movie, or if it is it is a VERY twisted Christmas movie. The fact that Jack, in the end, accepts his place as the Pumpkin King and the purveyor of all things creepy and terrifying shows that it is a celebration of Halloween as it's own holiday, without having to be as great as Christmas Clue was a good movie. So, by definition, yes, a movie based on a board game can be good. However, I don't see the odds being at all good of any other board game movie successfully following in Clue's footsteps. I can't even fathom any other board game that could follow in Clue's footsteps. 99% of games are automatic fails, because you need some sort of concept to build off of; a murder, a shootout, something. So, those are my answers for some of the questions. Also, as for good comedy sequels, 22 Jump Street is a pretty good one. Harold and Kumar: Escape from Guantanamo Bay and Wayne's World 2 are also good examples.

[@kimkeller9589]

But Star Wars should be bigger because most people never thought it would ever happen. Seeing the original cast is like a friggin fantasy fulfilled. I could cry.

[@Evan8787]

Another stupid Marvel film that will have bad acting, a dumb storyline and overuse of CGI. The moronic masses will eat it up though I guess

[@cornking6]

Lol, try harder.

[@scrrin]

You confused Marvel with Michael Bay'sTransformers

[@jayhandave]

FUCK ANIME

[@PraveenJose18551]

*Man of Steel

[@Evan8787]

Oliver Bensusan I can tell you're part of the dumb masses. Avengers was garbage!

[@NORRIN-RADD]

Hal, Wes Craven, before Scream did Scream with New Nightmare. He broth Freddy into the world behind the actors, behind the camera. It's so under appreciated and terrifying in a way that even surpassed Nightmare on Elm st. Ya missed that point. But I luv ya cuz you knew where to go to begin with.

[@CarlosCruz-jx1ob]

WHERE IS MUNDY????? MUNDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

[@yan008]

Blah, who gives a fuck? Comic books movies are just there to make money, not to offer quality story telling.

[@cornking6]

Not really. The best comic book movies have great stories. Look at Watchmen, Sin City, The Dark Knight trilogy, etc. A fairly ignorant statement tbh.

[@yan008]

Sin City isn't relevant anymore. Only Watchmen on your list contains only quality plot. It's ironic since Alan Moore dislikes superheroes movies, yet he created the best superhero story yet. Also Watchmen was meant to not to be adapted on big screens. TDK just got lucky with some twist and turns, the sequel sucked. Only there to make money hence the title - ''The Dark Knight Rises''

[@cornking6]

yan008 What? How is it not relevant? What a terrible argument. It doesn't matter if it came out years ago, a good film will stand the test of time, you can't just write off my point because you can't think of a better reason. Also, the entire Trilogy was solid. TDKR didn't "suck" it was just bloated. To say TDK "got lucky" also doesn't make sense, it was very well made and had some excellent acting, hence why it did so well. Also, I'd like to add V for Vendetta and Akira to my list.

[@yan008]

Sin City is not relevant, because Frank Miller got too busy focusing on whores and violence. Saying TDK got lucky is logical because of TDKR. TDK has twists and pay off that catched audience by surprise, TDKR proved that they just made it to make more cash. V for Vendetta is horrible compared to comic counterpart. Hugo Weaving and John Hurt were outstanding, I admit that. Those three movies on your lists are adaptation or based on comic book. Which doesn't make it more relevant being quality storytelling,

[@TheThirdChild]

yan008 Actually, The Dark Knight series was originally supposed to be two movies. Nolan's goal was to make a grounded and realistic superhero story that had never been seen in cinema, and he accomplished his goal. Rises was where it departed from his original goal, he didn't even want to do it. The passion that was in the first two was gone and he forced himself to make it. I can agree with what you say about it, but the first two are amazing

[@mewtwo150clone]

Candy land should be a horror film

[@SKMP]

***** i agree

[@SKMP]

more like a rage film

[@arlingtonstewart9411]

Candy Crush should be a movie, starring Katy Perry and all the chicks from Sucker Punch.

[@KrustydaClown]

If Hal would've brought up the fact that the Nightmare on Elm Street franchise re-invented itself with Part 7: "New Nightmare" there's no doubt he would've won the fight!

[@renualdo]

Avengers: Age of Ultron looks promising, with a far better script than The Avengers. I think that X-Men: Days of Future Past shows how you can make a movie with dark story, but with a good direction, so it never feels depressing. My only concern is that in AOG, Quicksilver has an uninspired blur effect, and I don't see a real sense of speed.

[@fraudster111]

Is this really 56mins. Jesus christ people should get a job.

[@davidmendez3899]

a 23 hours and 5 minute job

[@fraudster111]

Martin Bergqvist Why is that your only alternative lol. You could go play tennis or something or watch nat geo.

[@dontcallmedaddy]

this is their job

[@JoshTheAmazingAnimator]

I hope you guys talk about the new Marvel Phase three line up next. Cause That's got me so excited.

[@Tessipedia]

Jack Skellington is NOT the mayor of Halloweentown, Spencer Gilbert! He's the KING of Halloweentown. Halloweentown has a mayor, the guy with the tall hat voiced by Glenn Shadix!

[@masterYoshimistsu]

The Johnny Depp movie you guys wanted to remember was The Rum Diaries and it was in Puerto Rico not Cuba and the reason the movie sucked was because it deviated like 90% from the book. They only put like two chapters of the whole book around a different story. If the writer and director were faithful to the source the movie would have been decent.

[@MotaShotta]

I usually don't like podcasts, except for Ray William Johnson' s one. But he quit that and to be honest, this is much better! I hope you never stop doing movie fights. I only wish I could join one of your conversations. (Or that I had friends that I could have these discussions with, that would probably be even better)

[@Pepsiman2006]

Along with Clue as one of the few good board game to movie, there is also Othello (aka. Black and White).

[@moviesrawesome6532]

Man they were wrong about Star Wars vs Avengers 2, Star Wars destroyed it

[@jdlaw001]

+PDOGGY LILLG Correction, Dan and Andy were so wrong, but Hal and Spencer were so right.

[@renualdo]

Star Wars: Episode VII it is going to be great, but in box office terms, I think it will raise between 1.1 and 1.3 billion dollars worldwide. Avengers: Age of Ultorn 2 is likely to raise between 1.7 billion to 2 billion worldwide.

[@wernerruch6218]

Loving this format! Hal lost me when he bashed boardgames, but Dan a fair winner overall.

[@tylerskiss]

Dan - The "movie geek" should not make the mistake of crediting Halloween with inventing the slasher genre. The "movie geek" should know about a little film called Twitch of the Death Nerve/Bay of Blood which pre-dates Halloween by almost a decade.

[@4Everlast]

Andy Sirkus, looks like a badass no CG, no make up, he could follow in the fotsteps of Washington and Nesson, NO PROBLEM.

[@miinfluencer1373]

i share that guy's feeling. avengers 2 trailer did kinda make me worry about it. like i kept thinking is this gonna be one of those things were we watch it looking for something to beat the first avengers movie and when badass things like "puny god" or w/e don't happen in this movie and people say the movie sucks. but that all changed. Phase 3 announcement. Cap 3 Civil War. When I saw that avengers 2 is pretty much gonna lead into the Civil War i was sold on it. I think it'll be great and it won't fall into that pitfall and get compared to the other movie. star wars is a dead series. they need to let it go. if anything i kinda hope they do like a remake of 1 thru 3 with better writing and a reworked timeline. but def nothing like what they are doing. i think ima skip the movie myself. i mean i saw who the new kids on the block are and its not like the chick's that hot. there's nothing going for it

[@123kidxpac123pac]

Can you have a good board game mover? Completely. It doesn't even need to be the film is based on characters in the bored game. Get two fantastic actors playing chess together. Have the chess game represent there lives as they talk about their past interactions. With or without flashbacks depending on how simple you want the film. With great actors, good script and a solid director that could be a fantastic movie.

[@EvinCoronado]

Good work, Rudnick. You know real movies and speak passionately.

[@JustDoItTomorrow47]

Star Wars will win the box office numbers because what Hal said about its higher status in pop culture and it's releasing in December. People are more likely to see a blockbuster movie in the winter than summer (a point Plinkett made in his Avatar review). But I'm not ruling out the possibility Marvel could overtake Star Wars as a cultural phenomenon with a new generation, especially if Episode 7 isn't good.

[@ManuelCarrasco-J3]

Hey Hal....Nice T-shirt! God knows we want them back!

[@darthboromir]

Here's a question. With rumors that the Emperor will return in the new Star Wars film....should he? (Another way of asking this: Should the Empire make a full come-back in the new movies, or does their presence diminish the impact of the ending of Return of the Jedi?

[@otherdrummer5409]

Worst franchise killers? Examples would be: Jason X Halloween Resurrection Star Wars Prequels Batman w/ Joel Schumacher

[@Jay-fs2nw]

He most memorable part of nightmare before Christmas was 'this is Halloween' song

[@TheLilone760]

What I like about the Avengers2 trailer, they did not spoiled to much. All those scenes had me thinking what is going to happen in the movie. Not like some movies where they show the first trailer and the spoiled the whole plot. I'm so exicted and cant wait for it next year. I'm not a Star Wars fan so i care less about the Star Wars movies. Who cares if it Dark or not, as long its a good movie.

[@NWednesdayQuansah]

Trick r Treat is the best Halloween movie, but Halloween does need way more movies.

[@fredkotten43]

Um going to go see both Star Wars and Avengers, I rarely EVER go to theaters I go whenever a movie can really bring me in and Star wars and Avengers that's like a two for one bonus!

[@lmaonope9106]

Best prison/jail movie? (Shawshank redemption, Law abiding citizen, longest yard, whatever..)

[@MightyStreetFighter]

Round 1: I swear Star Wars will break the bank. Guardians of the Galaxy certainly whetted appetites for a space opera, but in the end, it still didn't have that Star Wars signature and that's what most audiences like to be familiarized with. Even if it turns out to be less than zero as a film, nostalgia will drive this film's bank from viewings and re-viewings. Round 2: John Wick. I like Speed and Point Break and The Matrix has to catch me at the right mood, but John Wick has taken to adopting the deftness of the Raid films in terms of action choreography and camerawork and the world-building of Brian K. Vaughan to a more subtle sense of this giant hitman network. Round 3: Probably. Every once in a while, he gets a role and performance that is worth a damn like Rango. But I doubt Johnny Depp really cares anymore. He is doing whatever movies he feels like doing and, unlike Nic Cage, doesn't have to do them for money. Round 4: The existence of any Terminator property beyond Judgment Day shows so much contempt for the concept and disqualifies the whole message of the franchise to begin with and the idea of changing the world. We're so far gone with that that I don't give a fuck if Arnold is in it or not. Round 5: I don't care. I was never attached to Pee Wee. Round 6: Christmas undoubtedly. Nightmare Before Christmas devotes more to involving the Halloween aesthetic to the Christmas ideals, while still giving enough room for Christmas aesthetic, that it overwhelms that whole picture. Round 7: Movies based on anything can be good if you actually give a damn. Clue is a proof that a movie based on a board game can be good. Round 8: Definitely Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974). So documentary like that, in spite of having pretty little bloodshed, it involves us in the violence of the moment and makes us flinch at nothing. As well as the gorgeously ugly sunbaked aesthetic that gives the movie its extra dirty feel.

[@sethjt242]

In the Ultron sneak peek where the avengers are trying to lift Thor's hammer would you do an argument on if Cap will wield it in a future movie? As he's used it in the comics

[@epicvoiceguy]

Ha! Star Wars VS Avengers? Who wins? DISNEY!

[@ericwilliams462]

The best Keanu Reeves movie is The Matrix because it was so influential and is altogether an amazing sci-fi film. Next best is Speed because (see Dan Murrel's argument) and third is Point Break because (see Spencer Gilbert's argument).

[@dontstopmeenow]

Hoping Pirates 5 will be AMAZING. Personally, I liked all 4 so far, but this movie could be so good that it will bring Johnny Depp back

[@ziggyfrood]

If I were to put Shatner in a Star Trek film or Ahnold in a Terminator film, I'd give him a Stan Lee cameo. And good point about Jai Courtney. Six words- a good day to die hard.

[@SiyabongaAfrica]

The Andy Serkis comment killed me XDDDD

[@MrChrisker]

star wars vs avengers is a real hard thing to talk about cause there both huge names i think these movies at the end will do about even

[@rhodyb2410]

Best zombie movie of all time. It always makes for a good debate.

[@MichaelAarons1701]

Freddy over Michael because Freddy has at least 2 films that end with him seemingly the winner rather than the protagonist(s). Plus Freddy didn't have Rob Zombie do his remake(s).

[@SissyJosou]

I liked it all, very good opinions and fantastic way to bring them out might be a bit hard to choose who gets the points

[@Mykedigz1]

I really dislike the whole “adjusted for inflation” thing. It is completely misleading. Gone with the Wind was released in 1939, but re-released again & again, at least 10 times between 1940 & 1998. It stayed in theaters for decades. So was Star Wars. I was a child when the original was 1st released in ‘77. It was re-released in ‘80 just before Empire. Empire was re-released in ‘83 just before Jedi. All 3 were “re-mastered” & re-released in ’97 just before Phantom Menace. All those ticket sales are included in that “Adjusted for inflation” count. Not exactly the same is it?

[@flametepig3356]

Avengers Three: Thanos of the Galaxies, Starring: All previous villains Loki, Ultron and the Avengers after they eat shawarma Again!

[@snajperos]

Johnny Mnemonic - why nobody mentioned it was best of all Sad Keanu movies :(, It was great (even Ice-t didnt suck - that much). Great conversation guys, Im kind of home edition screen junkie, enjoyed your discussions greatly.

[@KILLAWATTS804]

By the way, the guy on the far right.....I disagree with everything that comes out his mouth,,,LOL What is he doing on the panel?

[@lowkeylonely4265]

Please do an honest trailer for Bambi!

[@jarredroberts6508]

Texas Chainsaw Massacre came out years before Halloween did so your argument that it created the slasher genre is moot. T.C.M is definitely scarier because he wasn't turned into some supernatural force that couldn't be stopped. It's more terrifying because he's not supernatural and still can't be stopped.

[@AbsoluteBlackZer0]

I mean, dont get me wrong, I love watching the show, but i think you guys are too similar in likes and dislikes to argue different view points. There's always 1 person going with another persons argument or Mundy being too emotional to give an "other side of the coin" opinion with tact. Look at the Best Keanu film section. You guys kinda just turned it into which character was keanu reeves able to be the dumbest more horrible actor in. I for one found it interesting that no one defended keanu. I understand why people dont like him and say that he cant act but he's no bokeem woodbine. This is kind of the same thing that happened with the Johnny Depp Conversation, and many of the others in the previous episodes. I'm hopefully not coming off like a whiner, I just really like Screen Junkies and I think you should have more contrast in opinions and likes on movies as a whole. P.S. Please have Hal Say "Sun CHAMBER!!!"

[@Bizarrejoe]

You know what, i want terminator to be a walk down memory lane, i don't go to see a movie about a killer robot traveling to the past to secure the robot revolution and take such a premise seriously. Do we also need to take Spongebob: Sponge Out Of Water seriously?

[@andresforero]

If I can suggest a topic: Ben afffleck has been directing really good movies (the town, Argo), so even if he's a good batman, is it ultimately a lose for cinema viewers that his commitment to batman will not allow us to see him flourish as a director?

[@jackullman5180]

It could be argued that Game of Thrones is a fantasy version of chess in a way.

[@Curseco]

The video title is misleading. There was nothing about the Age of Ultron trailer!

[@hoochiemoochie89]

How, how can you not pick The Matrix as the greatest Keanu Reeves movie?? I think people forget that the movie was revolutionary in just about every single way...

[@hoochiemoochie89]

I loved Speed the first time I saw it and the countless times after that. Then, after watching it again a few years later I have to say that it's a good movie: very entertaining and highly watchable, but it's not nearly the classic everyone remembers it as.

[@ericstaples7220]

The reason Star Wars has the 2nd highest domestic box office gross in history is because it's been released 4 freaking times and it's only so high when you add up all 4 separate releases.

[@TheGuyThatsAwesome]

That fact that it was re-released "4 freaking times" as you so eloquently put and people STILL went to see it in swarms should make it easy enough to see how popular the movie is. If they re-released any other movie, it still wouldn't make as much money as Star Wars.

[@ericstaples7220]

TheGuyThatsAwesome That's bunch of bullshit. Movie theatres re-released movies all the time back then, even really bad ones. There wasn't as much competition in theatres back then as there is today. And Gone With the Wind actually did make more money than Star Wars via re-releasing. Going by your logic, we should expect a Gone With the Wind sequel to outperform Star Wars 7.

[@TheGuyThatsAwesome]

You're an idiot. There were a lot less theaters around back in 1977, even less in 1939. Movies were re-released to meet the demand of customers, who continued to pay to see those movies long past their original theatrical releases. The fact that they were re-released doesn't make it less impressive that they made as much money as they did. It's no different than them staying in theaters. Also, I never made any indication on how I thought Star Wars 7 would perform at the box office as compared to a sequel to Gone with the Wind (How you came to that conclusion, I don't know), I was simply pointing out the idiocy of your statement that just because Star Wars was re-released, it means that it doesn't deserve to be one of the highest grossing movies ever.

[@ericstaples7220]

TheGuyThatsAwesome I didn't say you compared Star Wars to Gone With the Wind. Do you have trouble reading? I said I was taking your logic and applying it to a ridiculous situation to prove the hole in your logic. It's not hard to figure out, but it clearly went over your head. Why tell me there were less theatres back then, when I already brought that point up and countered it myself? Having more theatres today is easily balanced out by factors like having more movies being released as competition, having other forms of entertainment to compete with movies (like cable TV, internet, and video games), and not to mention a large number of people pirating movies over the internet. And I didn't say Star Wars doesn't deserve to be one of the highest grossing movies of all time. So claiming I made that idiotic statement and arguing against it again proves your trouble reading. The point I made is that a movie, which has been released multiple times, should not be compared to movies that have only had one release thus far. Compare a movie's first release to another movie's first release for a FAIR comparison. You don't think Avengers would make a lot more money than it currently has, if they pulled a George Lucas and changed a few things in it and re-released it in theatres? Oh, and you're clearly stupid, since you resorted to name-calling. Good job.

[@TheGuyThatsAwesome]

Eric Staples 1. Again, you're inferring something completely different from what I stated. Here's what you said, "Going by your logic, we should expect a Gone With the Wind sequel to outperform Star Wars 7." Here's my response, " I never made any indication on how I thought Star Wars 7 would perform at the box office as compared to a sequel to Gone with the Wind". 2. Here's your exact first comment, "The reason Star Wars has the 2nd highest domestic box office gross in history is because it's been released 4 freaking times and it's only so high when you add up all 4 separate releases." Here's your exact second, "That's bunch of bullshit. Movie theatres re-released movies all the time back then, even really bad ones. There wasn't as much competition in theatres back then as there is today. And Gone With the Wind actually did make more money than Star Wars via re-releasing. Going by your logic, we should expect a Gone With the Wind sequel to outperform Star Wars 7." As mentioned in your third comment, "Why tell me there were less theatres back then, when I already brought that point up and countered it myself?". There is no mention of that point anywhere in your first two comments. Maybe you meant to put but forgot it, in which case we have a misunderstanding. 3. I apologize for not making the overly convoluted inference that "The point I made is that a movie, which has been released multiple times, should not be compared to movies that have only had one release thus far.", which is a fair point, but wasn't made clear enough, or even alluded to whatsoever. 4. Even taking away all the re-releases, Star Wars still made a shit-ton of money, however you try to rationalize it. Mind you this was a time where Jaws had just recently hit theaters, the Roger Moore James Bond films were at a commercial high, the first Star Trek movie was released soon after, Christopher Reeve Superman wasn't far off, and Stallone's Rocky was still fresh. Star Wars outgrossed all of them and then some. 5. Yes, I did resort to name calling in my second comment, which I do apologize for as it was unnecessary and didn't help my cause.

[@ethanlycan6486]

Loving the Expos shirt, Hal!

[@maxstone5970]

Hey guys, this video is the reason why I first registered on youtube a minute ago, because during the debate you missed one crutial thing: Ultron! I don't know if I am too straight forward here, but how can you name this episode "Age of Ultron debate" and don't talk about Ultron? To be honest, I don't know the background of Ultron but in this case I don't care, because what concerns me is actually the cast of Ultron: JAMES SPADER!!! After one minute into this video I stopped to watch the trailer and after the first words of Ultron I was freaking out, because I recognized JAMES SPADER!!! This man is a god when it comes to voice acting! Has anyone seen him in Boston Legal? He wins, just because of his voice! And he was Daniel Jackson in the Stargate movie and he is awesome in "The Blacklist"! So, coming back to the debate with this title, in my opinion you should have had a round about the actor playing Ultron or giving him his voice! I mean we are talking about an antagonist who is going to punch the Avengers in the face, so there is lots of potential for a debate about this villain, because of his impact and his background as being indestructable and so on... This could have been a great opportunity to talk about James Spader. I don't know how popular he is in the US, but he is a brilliant actor and, even if I am repeating myself, his voice in the trailer of "The Avengers - Age of Ultron" is just AWESOME!!! Just wanted to let you know ;-) Thanks for this cool debate and happy Halloween!

[@HeavyMetalJesus02]

Although my love for Star Wars greatly outweighs my love of Marvel movies. Avengers is the trending thing, and the first Avengers was such a huge hit, and I also love Joss Whedon's work. Everybody knows that Marvel is on a roll, and that's because they make fun movies, and they managed to pull off serious movies very well with Winter Soldier. With this generation of kids, they've all seen the prequels, and either they loved it and then rewatched it and realized how mediocre the prequels are, or possibly haven't seen it at all. 2015 is going to be a rich year for Disney. However in the long run with the 40+ Superhero movies coming out. Marvel and DC are both going to suffer from oversaturation thus it'll probably have a decline, and maybe depending on how well Star Wars VII performs perhaps we can see a return of Star Wars.

[@epickid9442]

Let Age of Ultron be a little dark, I'm sure once the Guardians of the Galaxy enter the scene, It will be a lot more lighter and fun.

[@ryanlilly7264]

Question for the next one: Will Jurassic World revitalize the Jurassic Park franchise and create a new trilogy for the franchise? Or is Jurassic Park a dying thing (no pun intended)?

[@zephyrbat]

Iron Man 3 had a dark trailer, but was comedic to a fault. (addressing last week onb when will Marvel fail?- it already did with Iron Man 3.)

[@geraldsmith6144]

Movie based on board game that could work : CandyLand. Even Tim Burton could make something decent out of that game. Even with Johnny Depp in it.

[@prizefighter7607]

They misused "The exception that proves the rule" deduct points!

[@silverfiste]

Best slasher film IMO was the first Friday the 13th, Just because it was Jason's mother taking revenge for her son drowning.

[@jeffbarczak6457]

Nightmare before Christmas is definitely a Halloween movie. No one mentioned that the movie came out on October 29th 1993 in the USA. The Nightmare BEFORE Christmas! The major holiday BEFORE Christmas is Halloween.

[@Ineedaname2001]

Ok.... I have 4 topics to comment on on another great episode. 1st topic: Let's first start with the Terminator topic: Arnold all the way baby!!! How can you make a movie without Arnold? I mean if it is the future and these robots are created and sent back in time that means Arnold and Robert Patrick and the girl from part 3 need to be in every sequel because there are multiples of them. Also, and most IMPORTANTLY, the title. Genisys is a great title. Why you ask? Because the whole war starts when a self aware computer system goes online. A what? a compter SYSstem. Hence Genisys(tem). Clever. 2nd topic: Best Keanu Reeves movie. Not mentioned at all was this gem from the 80's. Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure (and the sequel). I mean Keanu can't act well but in these he didn't need to, he just had to be himself. 3rd Topic: Pee-Wee. Just for correction. Paul Ruebens never got busted for Child Porn. He was arrested for masturbating in a movie theatre. Completely different. 4th topic: Best slasher film. There are many ways to do this. How many moves did each make? Percentage of good vs bad ones? What came first? Who was scariest? But isn't the idea for a best slasher film to be which ones would be the most fun and rewatchable? I mean if you can't rewatch it or it isn't that fun then how does that make for the best slasher series. Nightmare on Elm Street had a great first, a decent third and a fantastic 7th film. Halloween had the first (maybe the second? It's up in the air...), the third doesn't count, H2O and Rob Zombie's first remake (also up in the air). But as a whole a fun series these do not make. Hands down it has to be Friday the 13th as the best slasher series. You've got part 1, a classic, then parts 2-4 which all take place in one night and are a blast from start to finish, skip 5 and you have part 6 which is awesome, then 7 is crap but the kills and Jason make it fun. Once again parts 1-6 (with a downhill drop in quality for part 5) are such a blast of fun slasher fun that they hands down win best slasher franchise. There is no question. Think about it this way. If you were asked to close your eyes and picture the perfect slasher film, with all the tropes that were needed to make it so, you would probably either imagine Friday the 13th part 2 or part 4. Enough said

[@gamerpip493]

You guys need to understand that board games go way beyond monopoly and battleship. There are likely thousands of new games coming out this year at Essen alone. They have themes ranging from organized crime to pirates to discovering a new continent to the Cthulu mythos. All of which would make a great story. A common stigma board games carry. Stop buying board games at Walmart. There's so much better out there.

[@rexross1461]

".... board games a barely a thing anymore...." are you kidding me? At least be open to other hobbies other then just the things your interested in.

[@gamerpip493]

Totally, Rex Kross. Board games are in a huge surge right now. And has some if the most devoted fans who strive to evangelize the hobby so others can see beyond Clue and Candyland and Monopoly. To games like Dominion and Suburbia and Takenoko..

[@Sharikacat]

Gamer Pip The only board games that have enough name recognition to reach a wide audience would turn out to be horrible movies. All of these new board games that have come out may be fantastic games, and some of them might even be able to supply a good movie narrative, but they just aren't popular enough to be given a movie.

[@gamerpip493]

It seems like Hollywood is scraping for new ideas lately. I think audiences would embrace the unfamiliar. I think that was a big part of Guardians of the Galaxy's success. It was a new story. Unlike another spiderman movie where you already know what is going to happen. I could see a great movie based in the Arkham Horror setting for example...

[@Sharikacat]

Gamer Pip If the problem is Hollywood unoriginality, then adapting even obscure board games certainly doesn't help that. If anything, it would just be viewed as a desperate move.

[@Gamerturk]

awww, no Nick Mundy???

[@אלוןקוסאשוילי]

Not even Erin? She was great last time:(

[@MarcErlich44]

There isn't a person who goes to see Star Wars that won't also go see avengers age of ultron. However, everyone who goes to see avengers won't necessarily go see Star Wars. That's pretty undeniable but nobody raised it. Star Wars keeps rolling out movies and they stink. I'll still see it, but I'll rent it from my living room on my laptop when it's $2 on iTunes. Christopher Nolan's Interstellar looks amazing! That's a movie I can't wait to go see, by the way!

[@Fortstorm]

"Keeps rolling out"? I don't think you can say that compared to Marvel.

[@Fortstorm]

Nathan Holstrom Who said anything about forgetting them? And I think you'll find plenty of people who would describe Marvel's activities as "rolling out".

[@clancywiggum56]

The reverse is more true. Everyone will see Star Wars but not everyone who does will also see avengers age of Ultron in name only

[@MarcErlich44]

Star wars has been awful for a long time.

[@MarcErlich44]

Thanks!