Agent Frameworks

[@zacharyhuang9346]

We recently built a 100-line minimalist LLM framework called Pocket Flow

[@TimeStampBuddy]

00:01:43 - AI Agents Intro 00:16:33 - Frameworks & Testing 00:41:17 - Agent Future 01:03:02 - Predictions 01:10:29 - Agents & Society 01:21:13 - Summary

[@thivuxhale]

hupo talking about philosophy-AI intersection is all i need

[@gigo6450]

Great video. Would love to see you on bluesky.

[@TheYvian]

The speculation and future-guessing parts are maybe not the most useful here and now, but they sure as hell are interesting and worth thinking about.

[@fraternitas5117]

these dunks on why to abandon langchain are right on point.

[@LegacyLessonsTapes-y1k]

I saw ai16z's elizaOS, and got excited. Then saw config hell = agent ops, and that excitement was quickly gone.

[@sweetchinmusic801]

Hu Po...You talk a lot about AI Safety. But I am surprised that you did not talk about the death of the Open AI Whistleblower, Suchir Balaji who was part of ChatGPT Pre training. He left the company disillusioned by lack of safety guards and was about to expose alleged data thefts by Open AI when he was killed. Police has called it a suicide but his parents have apparently produced evidence that it was a murder (his mom even appeared on Tucker Carlson podcast). They have also claimed it was a cover up. Why is no one talking about this?

[@richardnunziata3221]

The openness of AI agents will be dependent on the ability to track the user possible via a blockchain id and registration.

[@gr8ape111]

wut

[@fraternitas5117]

dspy has legit stars they have massive academic and marketing success

[@hanyanglee9018]

If the "while true" is the consciousness, then the definition of consciousness should be, it wants to last forever.

[@fraternitas5117]

"I don't know whither to call it langchain or langgraph" you and me both brother

[@fraternitas5117]

you gotta cover gptscript dude

[@LisaSamaritan]

If the person with Aphantasia reads this. Could you please elaborate on your problems with coding/agents? I am a fellow aphant. Perhaps we could swap some experiences.

[@danielbacsur]

Isn't DynaSaur's "code writing and execution" feature just another function call that the LLM calls with an additional code execution callback that runs the code before the function call results are returned?

[@fraternitas5117]

1:00:37 this section slaps

[@hanyanglee9018]

best cursor ever.

[@googleaccountkjgvkgcvcv]

while True: Gym() Tan() Laundry()

[@xx1slimeball]

[@hanyanglee9018]

Fake github star is All you need, lol.

[@mlcat]

In my experience Rivet has been the most convenient framework. Everything else is just text without ui, rivet has a completely different approach. I'm disappointed that you put it in "avoid" section. It's not really a "no code" framework, it's "organize everything including code not in plain notepad" because regular "files" are horrible for prompt management and rivet takes inspiration from complex tools like Unreal Engine, Touch Designer, etc. It's not perfect and has only 1 dev maintaining it and some parts like loops and concurrency are not great, but it provides the most productivity for organizing workflows, exporting them as json config and running, with visible output great for debugging on each stage. Langchain has been criticized multiple times for providing unnecessary abstractions and inconsistent apis, it only gained popularity because it was first of its kind, do you still suggest to learn it because its been adopted by some companies and remains popularity because of vc funding? In my opinion it's a horrible framework with bad developer experience that will lead to tech debt and by not supporting it we as developers bring ourselves a better future where we build stuff and not struggle with legacy code.

[@jyjjy7]

Redefining "consciousness" as any form of self reference is semantic abuse. If you need to redefine common use words to make a point then that point is usually just as questionable as the vocabulary. Basically to persist in time requires error correction of some kind so congratulations you just reinvented panpsychism and rendered the word consciousness ubiquitous and meaningless.

[@ZzzKekeke]

Look, I get that you're skeptical. But calling it 'semantic abuse' is a bit much, don't you think? Maybe our usual ideas about consciousness are just too narrow. Ever think of that? It's not like I'm saying rocks are having deep thoughts or anything. But maybe, just maybe, there's more to the picture than we realize. And maybe exploring that isn't so crazy after all. Just sayin

[@litguru4748]

Yeah that went off the deepend real fast lol. And I'm an "AGI's basically already here" guy who worships the ground on which Ghost in the Shell 1 and 2 were made. BTW watch Ghost in the Shell 1 and 2.

[@jyjjy7]

@@ZzzKekeke What you are talking about is only appealing to people that have no clue about what consciousness actually is and how it is implemented such that their random nonsense is as good as anything else. We are not going to get those fancy robot armies being built to do useful things by throwing a while loop at them. We are trying to functionally replicate human level consciousness and beyond; uselessly simplistic ideas like these about consciousness are part of the problem, and not anything resembling a solution.

[@jyjjy7]

@@litguru4748 Yeah, I also believe categorically consciousness really isn't that far off from a multimodal mixture of experts, it makes stuff like this even more egregious.