Agnostic and Sikh - Must Watch! Hyde Park 3 #2

[@haruspex1-50]

I love how calm sikhs seem to be. They aren't trying to force their religion on you like Islam. I love this. Just a nice conversation. Keep up the good work guys.

[@اسماعيلالخطابالسندي]

I liked your comment and then un-liked it as you said Islam is forced upon you. I'm a Muslim and have never forced anyone ever. If it was a forceful religion we would have taken over the world with ease by now.

[@اسماعيلالخطابالسندي]

@lol and how were these weapons made? Without the oil provided by the Muslim countries you would be on your knees. Begging and taking little by little. But that is not how the world works. In order to have good strong world economy we must share our resources amongst each other. But if Islam was forceful then we would have no need to be kind and care about world economy. Like Shah Faisal of Saudi Arabia said we can easily go back to eating dates and ZamZam and simple foods. Islam is not a forceful religion. End quote. Edit: Even now if you were cut off from oil, your worlds would come crashing down above your heads. The west has not come so far that it can run off electrical and technological advances completely.

[@اسماعيلالخطابالسندي]

@lol I've read sahib Hadith. Please quote me a specific one rather than heresay. Nobody was forced to convert, but paying jizya for non Muslims is a must. It is a form of tax. Muslims may possibly pay more tax than Non-Muslims in Muslim countries depending on how much they earn. As Muslims we pay normal tax and another tax which goes to the poor which is 2.5% of our earnings to the poor each tax year. Non Muslims do not pay the latter tax instead they pay jizya. So jizya is fair and out of the question, but the forceful conversion part is the focus here.

[@اسماعيلالخطابالسندي]

@lol your comment on oil is completely false. Yes they have oil, but the largest oil company in the world is Aramco in Saudi. I see you are here with a full cup and bring alot of heresay with you. You are not in this conversation for clarifications, you are not conversing to understand but to respond.

[@اسماعيلالخطابالسندي]

@lol i responded to all your points in two separate comments. Check again

[@jrmproductions7278]

A very thought provoking conversation it's a shame a lot of people are unaware of sikhi because I'm sure a lot of people would really take to it

[@mrz1703]

I have really taken to it👌. It's changed alot of issues I've been suffering from my whole life, not exaterating. I consider Sikhi sacred psychology. Not claiming miracles, just subjective experience 🙏 ☬

[@ayybibi]

4:46 “you have a lot life yet to live.” that hurt my heart a little bit because he passed away not too long after :(

[@aarondhesi1735]

same

[@ZiIIous]

That's why we muslims tell you "Revert now! You could die tomorrow and be in hell!". Many many muslims tried to prove to him that he's wrong, but he said he's "100% confident his faith is true". His biggest mistake was focusing on what bad things "muslims" do, and not checking what proofs does Islam has to offer for itself that made it the fastest growing religion and second largest.

[@amarnoorsingh523]

@@ZiIIous there was a point where the world believed earth was flat. Just because a majority believes in something doesn’t mean it’s true. He never focused on the bad of Islam instead the Muslims who came to debate him always looked for faults they never tried understanding the concept.

[@arsenalf.c6443]

@@amarnoorsingh523 why are you wasting your time with people who lead their by just one Book.

[@brownisbetter7966]

@@ZiIIous you are completely wrong.

[@masterzoroaster.6474]

The Agnostic seems mesmerized (in a good way) by being in the presence of a GurSikh.

[@ajeetsingh1910]

Right

[@alicec2631]

Jagraj Bhaji is really missed. He was one in a million 🙏

[@utopiac679]

Sat Sri Akaal Alice Ji 🙏🏼 I miss him immensely as well; and his works here on this maya plane of existence. I am so grateful some of his knowledge is forever memorialized for us to spiritually advance and keep learning even after his passing at such a young age 😢 Waheguru Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ki Fateh 🙏🏼

[@akstealth3328]

Making me fall in love with sikh way of life

[@upmostanimal8265]

This was one of the best talks I've ever seen! It's so refreshing to see 2 people of different beliefs come together like this and just talk.

[@FLICKSINGH]

amazing conversation, nice to see some healthy conservations, thanks to basics of sikhi I got many answers questioned in this video. wjkk wjkf

[@raymond942]

The brightest candles burn twice as fast.... what a shame this brilliant articulate , potential leader of the rising sikh youth movement , left too soon...

[@Jerriehomie]

Brilliant use of Analogy regarding gym instructors. Not to mention , the very beautiful conversation you guys had. Well done!

[@simonwilliamnoelmurray9179]

I love this agnostic guy, he's great

[@earthkindsanctuary]

When he asked Jagraj Singh directly if he believed he was going to be reincarnated personally and he said yes, my heart dropped through the floor and didn't know how to feel. Be well wherever you may be now Gursikh

[@russellsage4953]

THIS…is a debate. AAn egoless civilized conversion attempting to listen and meet one another in the middle. This agnostic will end up in the gurdwara. He may not convert, but he’ll experience joy from entering and participating. Waheguru

[@JSG07]

Bhai Sahib was an inspiration to all. Waheguru Mehar Karan.

[@sumone9974]

a healthy discussion at SC - so refreshing! Out of all religions I like the Sikhi religion best!

[@arsenalf.c6443]

Oh wow, that Uncle is an Arsenal fan. Great. Missing Jagraaj. Although, i never met him.

[@jaskaransingh0304]

Waheguru. Whether you believe or disbelieve, on both sides you will just have a fancyful story. For the Gurus, Gursikhs, Saints, and Realized beings they have a living experience of the Oneness for themselves. Clearly one can see that this body is just an accumulation of food and that the mind is an accumulation of impressions. What we truly are, What is truly immortal in us, is the Oneness(or God that is more commonly used but doesn't completely capture the description of the Oneness), the Oneness that is all pervading, all doing, all achieving, all experiencing. Sikhi is about connecting with that Oneness, which is immortal, and transcending your limited nature which is subject to time.

[@deepindr2396]

great conversation.. but Ian is not gettin there yet.. God Bless Him..

[@Bik998]

😂😂😂 you made me giggle

[@makeithappenwithjayinZBrush]

Even though I come from Islam, I think he is the only gem in that park lost in the bunch of sands. He was the one who people should have listen. I think Islam is not wrong, I think people see Islam wrongly. It has deep wisdom if your heart and minds are open. Truth is within everyone.

[@kunwarboparai2526]

vry good vedios.always make us learn something new

[@youcanthandlethetruth7957]

Good video I enjoyed it very much I liked that both of you listened to each other.if you have ever felt the presence of God, what you have felt and experienced is beyond words.I wish all of you, that seek God read what the Holy Text and Book's tell us.The Guru's are asking and telling us, is to mediate in God's name, think of God only ,let no image or shape form in your mind, only recite the Holy name of God over and over, in silence and hear the Holy name of God that you are calling.

[@owenlee6125]

I meditated and believe what you sikhs believe. And have had an experience of god. If I was to convert what would it mean. I'm by no means perfect I realise it would require change in many positive ways. If any sikh has time to explain to me and help me on my journey I would greatly appreciate it. Much love to all

[@Supersingh2]

Brother do you have any gurdwara nearby.

[@Supersingh2]

For becoming a sikh one has to be initiated as amritdhari. One has to have disciplined life. Read morning and evening prayers and night too. One has to wake up early and meditate on god name in early hours. Basics of sikhi has quite a lot videos on their channel for non Punjabis guiding to sikhi. Ultimately gurdwaras are in every country so they might help you.

[@Rupinder-t5t]

TO EXPERIENCE GOD- one should be as low (at heart) as an ant on the ground , there isn't any ME. that's where it starts and trust me it's the hardest initiative Also everyone blvs in majority of anything but it would be so great if we can become as an ant which can find sugar mixed in soil🙏🙏🙏 BoS Always teaches .... thnx brothers

[@SinghSaab-zq2cu]

Known Stranger in gurbani it says "haar paro swami ke dware deejay budh bibeka"

[@nav2009]

How do you know God exist ...please quote you're text .....

[@K11-v8d]

When the gurus claimed they were prophets it means one of two things, he either was a liar or he was truthful, so by looking at the biography of the gurus we can deduce whether he was a liar or truthful... If someone lies why do they lie? for / fame/ power/ respect etc.. its for some type of worldly benefit. Now we can confirm the gurus were liars if by reading there itihaas (history of the gurus) we can find evidence's that he had inclination towards some kind of worldly things because then we can confirm he is a liar. But in regards to the gurus they spread a message and lived a life that did not benefit them and Jagraj Singh gave a great example the 9th guru being beheaded to save Hinduism just for freedom of religion even though the gurus were against some of the Hinduism practices ... where is the benefit for the gurus and the Sikh Panth there? free langar to everyone where is the benefit for them & Sikhs? and I'm sure a lot of people can give more example but the point is if an individual is not gaining any worldly benefit from lying then why would he lie? if you study the gurus and what they taught you will see he doesn't fit the psychological profile of a liar. We are not blind people we think with logic & a lot of muslims, Hindus and Christians have come in Sikhi as they knew these men were not ordinary people they came with the completed message and with a philosophy like no other.

[@damansingh7775]

I could not agree more to this, Jagraj veerji made this point in the starting but that guy didnt pick up the idea of free langar, and the sacrifices Gurus made for humanity. They lived their life in Gods name, they never classified themselves as the Ones to pray to.

[@therebel7736]

when i read muhammad brother in law waraka story and when muhammad got married to his son zyan wife which was muhammad daughter in law ,, and when i read quran verses which says man can beat wife .. or keeping woman as a sex slave I will say muhammad was liar and islam is a copy of bible and jews tohra and pagan religion .. how can a prophet tell keep a woman as a sex slave ?? or beat your wife ? or get married to his daughter in law ? first think that then talk about gurus ok

[@K11-v8d]

What? im not talking about Muhammad im talking about the gurus? you dont make sense pal...

[@jagjeetsinghbuttar7394]

shut up bro whatever u say is a lie and u dont know anything about our gurus gurus are satgurus means truth every people knows about it even other religions. Mohammed is fucking pedophile rapist wife beater and mass murderer etc.. islam is a terrorist religion and not peace they kill and force people to convert. before u talk about our gurus look at your Mohammed first before u comment ok moral.

[@K11-v8d]

Thats not nice what you just said is very anti Sikhism if Islam was a terrorist religion guru Hargobind singh ji wouldn't have built a mosque for them. At the end of the day you should feel your religion is the best (otherwise why follow it) but you shouldn't disrespect other religions, i apologies on behalf of my brother here who offended any Muslims because this is not true Sikhism. If bad Muslims what to comment about the gurus let them its not going to change the fact that the gurus were enlightened beings. We shouldn't be going to their level and trying to cuss their prophet back.

[@johnmorpheus120]

The man speaking to the Sikh feels self important and perhaps his intellect and pride has blinded him to simplicity of what is being presented to him. When people are wise in their own minds and they are enamored by their own reflection then they rarely can see the true Light of God.

[@whiteweewee5961]

this man could never have this discussion with people of other certain religions

[@Mindsmith96]

The man made very good points

[@Mindsmith96]

+Swedish Meatball Yeah well not everyones mind can be change

[@Mindsmith96]

+Jazz B changed*

[@USPunjabi]

TRUE!!! Not every mind can change. Because some people are stuck up. They have a little ego problem. Rather then try it, look for facts... They just have made up their mind because of a bad experience in life. It's like those people that get into a Car Accident and then have proof why no one should drive a car ever. They have just made up their mind. There is not telling them that maybe they were just bad drivers at the time.

[@mariojeromechavez6663]

I probably agnostic because I hav sum spiritual and philosophical experience at certain times and also because I acknowledge other ppls spiritualities and other faiths and very opened. My dad the Athuest my mom the Scientist Christian and my Cousin a Catholic! And also when I hav deep dreams I feel like they’re spiritual experiences at times.

[@gmannK1]

I love these types of videos

[@parwinder11cs18]

When we live the ego that only our faith is true then only sikhism makes sense,

[@PringlesOriginal445]

This was so good!

[@vandnadey1717]

Please can someone tell me what happened to this great Sikhi speaker. I've read comments that he has left the world.

[@TheMrJaggasingh12]

My favourite thing about this channel. XD

[@sipahi1699]

Bhai jagraj singh ✨🌸

[@robertjsmith]

Religious people arn't prepared to let go of their beliefs,like in the analogy of plato's cave they are scared to leave their prison.

[@KothuStation]

Agnostic seems like in another level, don’t know if he is god questioning Sikh guy

[@jays368]

Ive had that experience 🤯🙏

[@rubenjpneves]

Hello, I'm interested in learning more about Sikhism. At 14:30 it was said: "Every Sikh, whether he believes in God or not, knows about the Gurus and they trust the Gurus." I wanted to ask if belief in God is or isn't necessary to being Sikh. Thank you in advance.

[@Aman-ll5nj]

Believing in God is very crucial in Sikhi that's what it's all about. Meeting God. Being a good person.

[@Aman-ll5nj]

If you don't believe in God who will you try to experience, to meet.

[@rubenjpneves]

+A11 Games So it was just a mistake, he must not have meant that? Because there are deeper implications, like "Can you experience God without believing in God?" or at least "Can you strive to meet God without actually believing that you will be successful?" Maybe I am completely off, but I would love to know more, since that original sentence sparked a lot of curiosity!

[@Aman-ll5nj]

+Rúben Neves if you want to experience god you would know that it is a good experience (full of bliss) so u will believe in God

[@Aman-ll5nj]

+Rúben Neves you cannot experience God without believing because the way u experience God is by chanting his name and you will slowly form a love with the word

[@kingshuggz1628]

People GuRu mean Holy Spirit and that Holy Spirit comes cause the creator told him to come and told all of man kind we are all one mankind and u people still don’t get it

[@rexsingh2780]

Can someone tell me the shabad which was in starting...

[@harshdhillon9043]

BOS VAHEGURU INTRODUCTION

[@nav2009]

My brothers you use the Arabic... you have non fact in you're text. We do

[@Anoniem344]

You are waffeling

[@soorma01]

40 mins of talk but this guy still doesn't get it haha.. caught up in his own mind & ideas. not a good listener lol

[@jassaini4u]

he is caught up in 60s,70s music era :)

[@CommonUnity]

prolly why he's so erratic

[@T216-n3h]

Not easy to change views you've spent a lifetime confirming to yourself regardless of intelligence

[@pngmick]

talk about agenda!

[@nav2009]

Bro show facts sorry science facts ... theory is not fact

[@criscrosxxx]

Theory of relativity was proven right with mercury eclipse . Can that be replicated in a lab? Nope that's why its a called a theory but a law since it cannot be recreated here on earth

[@ciredon9534]

On the day of reckoning the gurus will be telling you get away from me as they will be fearing for themselves Jagraj you failed what a tragedy

[@GringoleboZebulon]

Sikh = worship through the Gurus (claim they have experienced God- subjective) Christian= worship through Jesus (claim they have experienced Jesus/God- subjective) Hindus = worship through idols, many gods. (illogical to worship an idol) Jews = worship through Ezra (like other religions, associating a human with God) Zoroastrinism = polytheists. Buddhism = rejects the notion of a creator God but does honor enlightened beings as deities. Islam = the Only religion that worships God alone, and do not associate anyone or anything with God. They worship directly to God, the Creator.

[@khushpalkaur1157]

you worship God through black stone

[@GringoleboZebulon]

khushpal kaur That's false, and you know it. Whoever worships anything other than Allah/God/Creator or associates anything with Allah is a blasphemy. It is shirk.

[@khushpalkaur1157]

GringoleboZebulon I am talking about mecca

[@GringoleboZebulon]

khushpal kaur You mean the 'Kabaa'. Still false, and you still KNOW we don't worship the Kabaa.

[@vjagpal]

I am open for suggestions & correction so please let me know if I am wrong. If Sikhs and Christians are worshiping God in a subjective way and Muslims are not. Then Muslims are worshiping in an objective way. because objectivity is opposite of subjectivity. If that is the case then Muslims are doing same as Hindus (as Idols are objective representation of faith). Living in a "relative world" and in a "human form" we can only interact subjectively or objectively, however, God is beyond subjective/objective limits. Since we humans are not, we have to pick a channel to interact/worship God. Now you tell me, are Muslims worshiping god in Objective way (idols, i doubt it) or subjectively. In my understanding, subjective way is better, because a devotee can develop on something that is within. On the other hand, an objective idol can become a distraction & limited in personal development. Where as a subjective (such as love) can change & improve you from within. If you know a third way of interaction please let us know. Also, explain how it is not subjective or objective.

[@tamimkhan3554]

This sikh guy doesn'tmake any sense

[@fireprincess4528]

Tamim Khan on what exactly doesn't he make any sense?

[@harkeeratdate2015]

Tamim Khan . Quran and Islam is only for like all of humanity, not for each and every individual. If you was a loving and compassionate individual, then you would have no problem in accepting this. Plus, the Sikhi scripture (bani) is preserved and miraculous.

[@infoMania07]

And now an agnostic makes more sense to a Muslim than a religious person. Wow.

[@slakhi]

Can Trigonometry make sense to kindergartners?

[@kunwarboparai2526]

vry good vedios.always make us learn something new