AI art obsession and the Main Character syndrome (Gloss Over 0.11)

[@lilyofthevaIIey]

Based on another comment, AI song covers are so fundementally different from vocaloid because vocaloid is so inherently human. There's voice providers, song producers, video editors, artists writers, cover artists. It's a collaborative community effott that continues because people in it support each other, and you can tell. It can't exist without people.

[@LisaFevral]

Yeah, no one is making that project by automating consumption and remixing of previous animation/vocals

[@cherrycordiaI]

Yeah. Vocaloids are basically instruments.

[@ouch4360]

This!! One time a guy in my class tried to argue that robots could definitly replace humans with regards to music and used Vocaloid as an example...no awareness at all.

[@kc8391]

When I was a dumb kid, I naïvely thought that vocaloids were actual people, and they existed. I learned years afterwards that wasn't the case. But now, thinking about it, vocaloids do exist, as extensions of all the people who put the effort in making them. At least, that's what I think

[@amethystimagination3332]

And the people behind vocaloid voices give their consent to have their vocals used. Not the case with AI, often the voices of dead people are used who can’t give consent, adding an extra level of grossness to AI

[@user-ziztnm]

the most concerning thing about ai art to me is that it is ahistorical. art is anthropological. it shows us that people have lived before us. it shows us the values and the symbols and materials they had. It is enriching and teaches us about history in little ways... for example there are so many artworks from the Hudson River school that are seemingly just landscapes but they have an underlying motif/message of manifest destiny. there are drawings that document the caste system that was enforced by colonizers in south america to show who deserved more privileges based off of skin color. With ai art, there is diversity with no equity. the diversity is devoid of real life context. in a world with ai art, we can be fed propaganda about a false reality. it can make photographs of people who never existed and be weaponized to depict a reality that simply is not true.

[@LisaFevral]

yeah, and also it just doesn't make sense to even archive any of it, bc it's just a random thing a machine made up, that is also fed a bunch of biased information.

[@zaq_hack4987]

@@LisaFevral I think this is the future of why AI Art and will carrying it. It will lead to our first "holodeck" like experiences. If you have ChatGPT 7 feeding a narrative into some nVidia GPU that spits out VR at 60+ frames/second, then why archive it? I think it will enable people to experience very, very dark things and leave no trace of it behind ... the lack of purpose for archiving it will become a key feature to the 4chan types. I don't like that future, but I also don't have any idea how to prevent it. I told a friend that we make various things illegal knowing that illegality is not prevention. Meaning a law against murder doesn't prevent murder. However, it makes a moral statement that humanity, writ large, finds murder to be objectionable behavior and will punish you if we find out you do it. And so I think there need to be laws against the dark uses of AI Art - sooner than later. Are they enforceable? Maybe not, but I think we need to put the MORAL line in the sand NOW and deal with the technological fallout as best we can using that framework.

[@user-ziztnm]

@@LisaFevral we live in sluge fr

[@raulguemes5805]

It scares me how brief a lifetime is. It's unique enough that people can experience and create anything. With the time I have, why would I want to experience something created by fledgling AI. I think the beauty of art is that it's created from the human experience. AI art as it is now a cool novelty. Maybe one day AI will have it's own experience to create with, but at the moment it just feels like random noise.

[@Maudtattoos]

I find that there is a correlation between people who are exited about a.I. art, people who were excited about NFTs, and people who were excited about buying a blue check mark on Twitter. I haven’t found a way to make this correlation totally connect, but I’ll let you know if I’m able to. 😗

[@Miimo_o]

People who want to be seen as important or as “artists” while being the blandest and dullest people on the earth

[@medea__witchhh]

people who want to be seen as creatives/artists, but dont want to put the time and effort to actually learn the skills ?

[@polin1710]

they are also the same type of people who hate artists and constantly speak about how getting an art degree is a waste. they also say shit like "modern art is so bad".

[@rexcornelius7760]

@@Miimo_o We taking about the WEEKND here?

[@RareMusicSpam]

@@rexcornelius7760 what?

[@plantrash]

Creating art has been a struggle for me, ive been really discouraged by university (made me hate my practice) and now AI art, but what you said is so sweet and encouraging, we don't have to make art for money or any other reason beyond our enjoyment of creation

[@absolutelynotellen]

Judging by the AI trends, the future dystopia is near. Also, as a vocaloid fan myself, it feels like celebrity AI song covers are just a lazy attempt to do a "digital singer" concept. 💀

[@LisaFevral]

Hopefully revolution comes before dystopia aha

[@cyberastranova]

And AI vocal synths, are ethical and work the same way as Vocaloid. Sigh

[@absolutelynotellen]

@@cyberastranova but with Vocaloid, they put more effort and even use actual person's voice with permission. But AI? Copyrights, copyrights everywhere.

[@cyberastranova]

@@absolutelynotellen Yeah. I mean AI vocal synths like Synthesizer V, CeVIO, Ace Studio, etc. They also require manual effort and use an actual person’s voice with permission.

[@laurentiuvladutmanea3622]

We can all just hope for a Butlerian Jihad.

[@13realmusic]

Ai art can never truly invent anything. It would need our essence our life force. I got my minor in computer science and the first thing they taught us in our intro class was computers are very dumb and can only do exactly what we tell them to do and nothing more. Ai will only ever recreate ideas already in existence, so no it’s not replacing human creativity. The first computer is the human mind, and I hope the tech people understand that basic stuff still applies today. I’m really afraid that at it’s best Ai will steal ideas posted publicly online to turn a profit.

[@LisaFevral]

I think people are already doing that every day without AIs help ahahah

[@Mario_Angel_Medina]

For years I have been of thee opinion that there's a symbiotic relationship between the neuropsycological sciences and the study of artificial intelligence. The engineers build a computer based on our current understanding of how the brain works, and by seeing in which ways the computer fails to be on par of a human mind, the neurologist learn the blindspots of our current understanding of the brain so they can study those blindspots more closely, and based on their findings the engineer will build another comupter and the process will start again. Neural Networks broke that symbiosis because they are a black box, the engineers can't see the learning process of the machinen therefore they can't see the ways in which it fails to replicate a the human process, therefore we don't really learn much of the experiment and therefore not real concrete advancement is made... is badly made science in the pursuit of automatization instead of knowledge

[@obazu3727]

I don't think there's really any evidence,that we are capable inventing something out of nothing either, everything is an application of something previously learned into something else that has been previously learned. And sometimes this application hasn't been done before, leading to an innovation. What makes human creativity so special isn't it's limitlessness or ability to just keep coming up with new ideas, just how limited it is and what effects these limits create. At it's current form AI can already be told to do something like this, though the effects are very limited and the AI's network isn't really advanced enough for it to recognize these patterns itself, thus for now it needs a human to give it these inputs and recognize any stylistic value. There is a very good chance, that at some point the neural network will reach sufficient complexity to be able of "creative" thought on level of human brain.

[@UnicornofWar]

The way I felt all of this in my BONES. All forms of art are ways for us to connect with and understand each other as people, and even terrible art can provide fascinating insights into how they were created. It's depressing how commodification of not just art, but everything has made people genuinely excited for machines spitting out uninspired, deeply inhuman... I can't even call it art, it's just bleh. Like don't you WANT something that speaks to your soul??? As a brief example, I just saw Across the Spiderverse the other day. GORGEOUS movie with stunning animation, and beautiful, human writing that really resonated with me. Themes of belonging, being true to who you are and what you stand for, refusing to just bow to the whims of an inhuman, unfeeling mechanism. No AI could've made that. The most it could've done is just spit out regurgitated Spiderman memes, and why even have AI do that when humans can do it better while also punching your heart in the dick?

[@LisaFevral]

Yeah, art is more about the upkeep of human experience that is done through living artists, and not a capital to be harvested through optimization

[@sugarc8699]

😮!!!!

[@BlueButterfly1134]

I love your rewrites

[@Alexandraadftxr7052]

The animaters used AI to help to animat it.

[@amethystimagination3332]

@@Alexandraadftxr7052 Incorrect, the animation was done using a combination of CGI and traditional techniques. Ai was barely a thing when they started production and is still nowhere near good enough to produce a film that high quality.

[@karolinakuc4783]

Art will always be important. Even just for its terapeutic value. When you write a poem those emotions you held are less powerful. You don't experience them as if they were yesterday.

[@LisaFevral]

yeah, Idk how they all decided that making art has always been about profit or ONLY innovation.

[@BusinessWolf1]

Yea, art will always have value, but that doesn't change the fact that +80% of artists are going to lose their jobs, and new artists will not find work because it's taken by the senior artists or AI. When people can't ever make a living doing something, they don't get good at doing it. There are no professional sand castle builders outside of some niche sculptors, but those didn't build a career off sand castles. Objectively speaking, there's gonna be a lot less human art being created, and people will get sick of AI art that just looks pretty and serves nothing else. And they won't be able to do anything about it except try to find human art online, but they won't be able to because of the file flood from AI. And the pretty art will be just good enough that companies will not use anything else. Art itself will crumble without artists around. And art is a LOT more than something to look at or feel something from. I honestly think it keeps a lot of society together just by existing.

[@gazerbeyond6371]

People wish to create something unique, yet some don't want through the entire trouble of learning how to properly conceive a creative endeavor. AI art serves as a bridge to that. Unfortunately, those people don't realize the meaningfulness of self-expression through art, or just through any kind of effort. In part I blame it to our constant need to maintain status in society, may it be by appearances or honest work. We don't give ourselves the time and space to think about our personal stand in the world, simply doing what is necessary over what is meaningful to us beyond obligations. It's good for people to try to figure themselves out, and art can be a way to that. It's difficult because it's personal. To jump over that entire journey while desiring the attention of others shows a lack of self-respect. (I hope this hasn't come off as too high handed)

[@LisaFevral]

I think the way we view people as just capital(on a global scale) is also reflected in how we view things that are for living and not profit(personal art)

[@naolucillerandom5280]

​@@tennisrun when you can draw but still ask AI to generate cool landscapes because you don't want to spend a week in something that literally means nothing to you

[@Alexandraadftxr7052]

Some people don't enjoy the journy, or the creation process, or simply can't do it.

[@RareMusicSpam]

People making ai art to sell, even as nft, remind me of all those entrepreneurs who made “simple abstract” art with no actual meaning to make millions

[@LisaFevral]

the only people buying into their nonsense are elon musk worshippers(or the like haha)

[@RareMusicSpam]

@@LisaFevral it’s just a trend in business on how to make easy money while using art fanatics…

[@LisaFevral]

I'd say less art fanatics and more ego and capitalism fanatics haha

[@amethystimagination3332]

If you’re dumb enough to buy one of those you deserve to get scammed lol

[@t3rg3r]

16:42 year 600s Lisa going about her local courtyard and roasting the fashion choices of the Byzantine royals be like 😎

[@LisaFevral]

Ahaha omg

[@honeylattee]

This made me reflect on my lifeeee. We are kinda just here and we could do nothing but like why not try something new or learn something why not dream? Why not pursue my dreams? I love all you content!!!!!

[@amylemcoauthor]

I tried an AI writing thing and it gave a very grammatical and I would say "stable," plot. It was basic and broad but couldnt really grasp particularity, nor could it write in the style of Twain--it just gave a little southern jargon, but no satire or *shocker* insight into the human condition

[@LisaFevral]

at some point it might develop to a level that can create something that works, but I still don't think that it makes any sense to use it for art. Even if it gets better than people, the whole point is that we make things BECAUSE we're people, and anyone who tries to say that art is just about commodities is a bit strange to me haha

[@TheKlutzinator]

I feel like technological advances has caused us to move forward as a species but backwards socially, if you get what I mean. ]Brilliant thinkpiece as always Lisa 😘

[@LisaFevral]

🥰🥰🫡

[@wa_akii6873]

THIS ACTUALLY! I feel like currently we’re so advanced technologically but so desentisized and insensitive of all the horrible stuff going around, and when you DO care, you’re called “over reacting” or “too sensitive” or “a snowflake”.

[@tatjanaporyvkina2093]

1) Not related to this video or anything (well kinda) anyway, your lyno artworks in the back are sooooo beautiful!!!!! 2) We had this discussion in the class morality, and everyone was being scared that they will lose their jobs later, (I study at an art high school) personally, I think that we will probably do something (maybe nothing new and refreshing) that will focuse more on the conceptional ideas of the artwork, art works that are personal which an AI can't do. I guess that way artists will still make money.

[@LisaFevral]

Yeah those are messy as hell, it was the first time I did print ahah Yeah art is already there, that’s why conceptual art is what usually shown in galleries now, but regardless of that I don’t think there’s anything to worry about

[@lenapawlek7295]

I hope that the artists suing the ai creators get their money!!!!!

[@LisaFevral]

I hope so too!

[@babibiby]

Very interesting video and perspective. Let me ponder that... Also, "you are nihilistic. Well, good for you. go to therapy, though" cracked me uppppp.

[@SylvesterLazarus]

When KZbin will introduce the feature to like a video twice, I'll come back to give you another one! I've never seen a single thing from you, I have no idea who you are, but you just dropped the absolutely most savage roast I've ever heard with such confidence and insight I can't even express it properly with my vocabulary. In the name of every person who has ever even vaguely considered themselves an artist, thank you for every single word!

[@funicon3689]

i still practice piano like crazy, despite recordings making my flawed performances technically obsolete. creators create because we love to create. whether youre using a pencil, a piano or a computer doesnt really matter. its just a medium

[@LisaFevral]

exactly!

[@mar-vc6fu]

i’ve always loved your fashion analysis videos but these commentaries on art, and trends are so good!! i love the turn the channel is taking! love your work☺️

[@LisaFevral]

thank you!🥰 I'm glad you're enjoying it🥰🥰

[@MrMindCloud]

I really just think the whole thing is depreciative and devalues art as a whole. Being able to generate generic content opens up a plethora of possibilities to, dare I say, untalented individuals to push product. People say they don’t support ai, but that’s just because it’s still small. It only takes 1 big thing- one big feature in a AAA game, one big animated movie, one hit song for people to lose their backbone and support AI because their desire to be relevant is stronger than their own beliefs. On the other hand, a rise in ai products is sure to create a value increase of traditionally created physical art, as well as live music.

[@laurentiuvladutmanea3622]

Great video. I love that this video gets at one of my main ideological problems with AI „art”. The way it is so....pointless and meaningless. The entire emptiness of it all. The insult to humanity. While when discussing this issue I concentrate on the safety risks and on the dangers to labor, this factor is one I have not seen all that much discussion in KZbin videos. Anyway, have a like.

[@natalie0505]

What you said got me thinking - a lot of the people who support and generate AI images ("art" lol excuse my sass) often say they put effort and time into the image eg "I went through 50 different prompts until I got it to look like this, so it does take skill". I wonder what these people would think about AI art if it didn't require their input at all. If someone created an AI art generator that worked all on its own without human input at all but still spat out images that looked as developed as what these people are generating with their 50 different prompts. Would these people still support AI art? Would they still see those images as art?

[@gildedpeahen876]

Once a guy won a prestigious MONETARY award for a midjourney piece of aRt, without disclosing that’s what it was, I knew it was over. He was completely shameless about putting his name on something he didn’t touch. This is not art, I don’t care what these people typed. It literally wouldn’t exist without the stolen art of millions of artists, famous and anonymous amateurs. It’s just a soulless amalgamation of real art, taken without consent and DEFINITELY without compensation.

[@maxsync183]

well ask yourself, if the mona lisa looked identical to how it looks today but we, through time travel or whatever, discovered that it was reallly easy for davinci to paint. like, he was just so good at painting that he did it in like 15 minutes. so, nothing about the final product has changed but we know that the person who made it didnt find it difficult. would that make the mona lisa worse? would that somehow change how people view it? heres my (what really shouldnt be a) hot take; many artist create amazing works and die with no recognition. manye others make lackluster work with very low effort and see a lot of success. the value of art therefore cannot be determined by the amount of effort put into it. i mean if it was, van gogh would have been incredibly famous when we was alive right? but he wasnt, not because he wasnt a good artist but because time and effort does not automatically win you attention and money. if algorithmic art (not ai, doesnt exist) didnt require any input and still produced an output, its output would still be art. the only way you ccan genuinely argue that it wouldnt would be if you literally proved that a god exists and that that god has told you that art HAS to follow certain rules. until that happens, none of us can say that anything is or isnt art.

[@gildedpeahen876]

@@maxsync183 see but I do believe in god and therefore without the divine spark of soul, it is not art. Algorithmic Amalgamation not Art

[@LisaFevral]

I think the Mona Lisa example is not working a bit bc of how Davinci still had to learn for years and years to be able to paint well(even if it was relatively easy, even if he was super talented, it still requires time). I get where you were going with it though, so I'm gonna comment on that thought. I think inherent value and historical and/or monetary value are two different things. The reason why someone is well known while the others are not is mostly due to privilege. You had to be a man, usually a white man(in European lore haha), you had to be either rich OR very, VERY well connected. In the case of AI art, the problem is not that these people are the first ones to not put a lot of effort to get rewards, as much as it is with the fact that societies guided by capitalist ideals view both life and art as capital, rather than individual instances of existence. Them participating in the market that is already really hard on individuals(especially those that are not rich), while doing something that requires no effort, understanding or interest to get ahead, is offensive to those who don't live their lives by capitalist "morals"(or lack thereof). You are right though, there is virtually no difference between them doing something like this now and artists of the past, but it all stems from the same issues.

[@bunnywar]

They're paying for someone else to prompt for them. Either hunders or thousands on etsy or paying for promoting packs. Can't pay for crayons though because that's only for rich privileged elites.

[@notcornelius123]

I am astounded at how good your arguments are, bravo.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

I just listened to a podcast on art and now I see this. The Universe (and the Algorithm) wants me to learn about art.

[@krissyboom6633]

"i mean good for you...go to therapy though" i will steal that

[@Mario_Angel_Medina]

I always remember somthing I heard a profesor say in college 10 or 13 years ago. "This scholars say that people nowadays doesn't experience their experiences, they only live through their experiences. Because to experience something is to do it for the first time without any prior refference, and nowadays people know too much about everything so even if they personaly never visited Hawaii or never build a house or never dance lambada, they still have an idea on their minds of how those things are supposed to go and it will affect the way they experience doing anything or going anywhere. In the modern world, people can't form unique experiences, they can only compare them as better or worse than their expectations"... A.I. for the moment is only useful to grifters (the type that admitely has always been around in the art world, the people that see the postmodernism as the perfect excuse to take low effort trash and inflate its value for tax-evasion purposes) because there are some people with more ideas than talent that may be tempted to use A.I. to finally do the things they previously didn't had the craftmanship to do ("finally I can write that novel about Tarzan becoming a jet pilot I couldn't write before because I'm to stupid to understand the basics of military aviation" etc.), but that kind of people soon realizes that making an A.I. understand what was that thing you saw in your mind and how you saw it is even more difficult than making a human artist on fiverr understand what you saw in your mind, so they abandon the A.I. after a couple of experiments... the grifters, the NFT-sellers, the mockbuster producers, the content farms, they don't care that the machines aren't giving them what they asked for, they only care that their cut of the money they'll scam from those who don't know better will be bigger

[@eggnookie]

this video covered the topic really well! thank you.

[@LisaFevral]

🥰🥰

[@artisthonyajta]

This is such a great video Lisa!! Art is so inherently human that you can not get rid of humans from art. Robots aren't able to think of new, they are only able to create what they already know and mash it together. While humans take inspiration from all sorts of different things, humans are able to think of new. There are scenarios that are unique to our experiences that we are able to inject into our art, and experiences are limitless.

[@deadvelveteer]

WOW that one got spicy! I do pretty much think alike. I like the "I'm not a nihilist I'm an absurdist" (to paraphrase) thought

[@LisaFevral]

yeah, like even if everything is pointless, it's not that big of a deal for my life experience ahah

[@imaginefun13]

When you hold on to the mic stand, it gives me the vibe of sitting in a coffee shop and hearing you rant and I'm just lifting my cup like, "Yes! Preach!" 😂

[@LisaFevral]

Omg ahahah love that image

[@chrissyelric7134]

Thank you for this video! It is very hot in Germany right now, so I am glad that I will be distracted from the heat! Also, I very much appreciate the personification of art and it may help to answer my question of why art (also novels etc) feels somewhat different and less iconic nowadays or why it (some of it!) will not persevere when it comes to the themes it discusses and being timeless and of quality.Just my opinion ofc. We briefly discussed the impact of cameras in art class, which evokes some sense of nostalgia in me, because I finished school recently!

[@LisaFevral]

Yeah I think they feel less iconic bc of the fact that everything old and new coexists now and makes everything feel less unique haha

[@chrissyelric7134]

@@LisaFevral I can see that!

[@krissyboom6633]

hey ;) also from germany here! i feel like it isn't so much less iconic as it is us getting bored faster with an art piece (music, literature etc. / maybe we are also swamped with media that is pretty mainstream because it is liked by the mass & everything else gets less attention idk) and being kind of determined to be less impressed by art? i feel like discourse around art and media in general is set out to hate or be hyper critical for the sake of being intellectual or different (?) reading/listening to some reviews - they sound like a teenager just being a bitch about stuff to appear cool and knowledgable. also expressing any joy some might have for something is instantly met with people trying to put you down for liking it

[@chrissyelric7134]

@@krissyboom6633 hey! I think that you made very valid and interesting points.The culture we live in might or is actively affecting the way we view art, which art should be valued and one is only exposed to specific types of art. I totally believe thst there are artists, that create authentic and meaninful art, to this day.The question came up around the time I started reading old classics like Frankenstein f.e and so on.I felt like many popular novels nowadays wouldn't stand the test of time. Honestly, my view of art today might be contradicted by its future audiences, that may or rather will see it in a different light, I won't live thst long haha. One should consider that it comes down to my subjective view of what "good" art even is and even this I can't answer directly. Danke für deine ausführliche Antwort ;)

[@user-ziztnm]

the world is really small. I love your videos and I am glad this one touched on how art is usually a vehicle for peoples self actualization. at 9:22 you make some statements about people having their "main character bubble" popped. As someone who is from a major city that is getting gentrified all the time, the people who think like that are NOT NORMAL. I grew up learning that collaboration with people who have similarities to me are good. To think that its important to be unique plays into the pick me paradox a little.... especially when its in regards to women trying to prove something about their identities. I wish they would use it as a stepping stone to build community with other people rather than a marketing or networking tactic. not to mention ... it also makes me feel like laughing bc everyone is trying to build their specific brand but they are nothing but a consumer. it breeds competition where there should be community instead.

[@LisaFevral]

I think when I'm talking about people being characterized in specific terms is less about the reality of that uniqueness as much as it is about lack of overexposure. Many artists in different parts of the world were coming up with similar things at the same time, and it doesn't make it less unique, even if they were doing it in groups. My grandparents didn't characterize people around them or those people didn't characterize themselves to become more marketable, they were living in a communist state with no need to be your own pr manager like we have to do today. So when I'm saying they had a main character bubble, I'm speaking more on them experiencing what is directly around them rather than the entire world exposed to them at once. I get what you mean though, and I personally agree that uniqueness is not all that, especially in terms of self pr

[@user-ziztnm]

@@LisaFevral yes i agree. It is weird bc it makes me feel like there is a low level of unreality that everyone lives in bc of the internet 🤷‍♀️. i be sounding like a boomer but ur so correct. Your family had to exist and interacted with what was directly around them. Its not about uniqueness but rather the way people think they can gameify capitalism and constantly try to leave their immediate surroundings which makes them scalp the environment thats around them. Also crazy but in the US rn we do not be having labor jobs. All we know is starbuck or stupid corporate job that someone forgot to take off payroll.

[@karolinakuc4783]

One Marvel show used AI generated intro. But it isn"t that the quality of Marvel movies didn't decreased. It dropped a lot

[@angelprat6080]

i love so much the energy of this, like i need more people to be this salty and passionate in a despiteful way like when Micarah Tewers made a bonnet out of despite for little women's costuming u know what i mean?

[@LisaFevral]

ahahahah true, I like when people care about things, even if silly ones

[@Tina-fj4xo]

Such a great discussion! Your ideas always help me engage with my thought process. You have a conceptual way of thinking that really resonates with me. Its like, so many people think and understand only in words, but you present things in a way that captures images and feelings too. I've been feeling like art/aesthetics have become so flat, almost disingenuous. So little comes from within anymore. We look for uniqueness outside ourselves and absorb the world to become it, rather than letting it become us. Love your vids Lisa, more like this!!!!!! ❤❤❤❤

[@LisaFevral]

glad you liked it, and more to come❤❤

[@lemon-ue4hy]

such a good topic for a video! great work, lisa. ❤

[@EH012]

What a freaking insightful video. Hit the nail on the head. I often feel like people miss the point by such a wide margin that it's hard to close that chasm in communication, but hey. What else is life about 😊

[@LisaFevral]

ikr, it's not like we're talking about something that is entirely separate from our lives, it's strange that so many people genuinely don't see why art is part of our lives in the way that it is

[@carmosilva3589]

This is such an interesting theme! Thank you for another amazing quality video!

[@LisaFevral]

Thank you for watching it🥰

[@amethystimagination3332]

The purpose of AI is to complete a task with as little thought as possible. Which is why using it in art seems so counter intuitive to me, the whole point of art is to think about it.

[@gsq3615]

Problem is, if AI art is going to be profitable - and I fear enough people at least at first are excited about it and will be willing to pay for it - plenty of people will make AI art even tho it makes absolutely no fucking sense imo. I see you touched on that @20:35. My hope is the novelty will wear off and people will at some point wake up and go 'why the fuck shoud I care what a machine has put together trying to mimic a person'? Also, I'm hoping other more "lowbrow" - for lack of a better term - art forms and artisanship in general will see a revival. Maybe it's 2090, you cannot afford the latest NFT so you say fuck it I want to commission a wooden desk to this cool dude on etsy so I can fucking admire it and - gasp! - touch it everyday as I wfh through the next pandemic. I don't care what anyone says, I didn't study art beyond what was mandatory in high school in my country and I don't work in art so ya know, no horse in this race. When human beings will be just brains floating in juice connected to a computer then we can talk about it. But as long as we are physical beings we will crave physical things. And the more the world shifts towards the virtual the more we feel a disconnect and crave the physical imo

[@LisaFevral]

I honestly wish I had money for artisanal stuff, bc that’s the stuff that actually lasts and adds so much to my every day existence

[@Myllkka]

This is a great video and it upsets me that it doesn't have more views.

[@phosspatharios9680]

"What's the point of making more AI art?" Money. The people excited about AI most definitely aren't as thoughtful as you are about art. They only care about the fact they are able to get a product for less than commissioning one or more professionals, thus getting larger profit margins. They couldn't care any less about what art is or even why people enjoy art. They just look at spreadsheets made by statistical algorithms to get to conclusions along the lines of "Product that features X in Y way sells more with people of group Z", without any thought as to why that's so, or even considering if the statistical models are even mathematically sound in the first place.

[@Katiesgotmail]

I love salty Lisa because she talks SENSE!!!

[@St-benoit]

I’m an artist and my point of view on Ai is rather chaotic neutral? I see it as another tool or medium to create. Yes I think it has a lot of ethical issues but just like other mediums, references and technologies (Remember the medieval grain sorters that lost their winter jobs once the farming machines came in 😢) I think no matter the medium you use, you still need to know what you’re referencing and be aware of how your messages will be understood in your cultural context, otherwise you’re going to make unpredictable and probably bad art work. Art is an ever evolving temporal perishable thing that we need to embrace instead of fight. I see Ai as a baby that we need to take care of and teach, instead of leaving it in the hands of exploitative companies and white researchers. That I think we can all agree upon here ❤

[@marikkelaszlo3355]

AI art reminds me of the Other Mother's world/ creations from Coraline, it's beautiful to look at but it's so oversaturated and a lot of it is soulless and sometimes creepy, and like the other mother, AI can't create, it can only take things and copy something into a "better and perfect" version of what it used to be.

[@MiraSetenyi]

In my opinion Ai art has a place. It think what will happen , is that artists, who for example keep drawing cute girls in their signature style over, and over then post it on istagarm will fall off, and Ai will replace them , becouse there is 0 reason under the capitalist system we live in , for a human to do a job that a program can do faster, take it or leave it. Same goes for marvel movie writers for example. These stuff doesnt need much creativity put into them(Ai art has a place if these pieces of 'art' deserve to have a place). And i think thats what will divide the artist who will loose their job to ai, and who will not. I think humans will crave original (ik it doesnt really exist, but at least unpopular, and unpredictable stuff. Even if uniqueness doesnt exist, ai will never even be able to evolve and biuld upon the ideas that came before, the same way humans do) movies, and pictures, and art in general. IMO artist without atleast trying to break the mold dont really deserve to be called artist. Our world is already filled with mindles remakes, i dont think ai will make this worse, it'l just make it so, that if an artist wants to survive as an artist they must be creative. (+ some artforms cant even be touched by this, like teather(actors, costume and set designers), paintings, live music. The only people whose jobs are really on the line here are writers. And i dont think audiences will let that happen). At the end of the day art is fun, and healing, and thats why we should do it, not to be THE original, unique person no one has ever been. But also, i think the moment we do art for money, we have to attach some objective worth to it, and from the buyers standpoint our feelings while creating it, does not matter. (fuck capitalism actually, it destroys art. Instead of disliking ai we should just all dislike capitalism.)

[@disaster4550]

what gets me is when they use the "arguement" of artist being just stubborn and against progress, we should just learn to use ai if we want to keep this jobs... and like. have you considered people draw because they enjoy the actual process of DRAWING. If I was drawing my whole life why the hell would I want to drop it and write prompts and press buttons instead??😭what's the point

[@rexcornelius7760]

There are variations and gradients in Nihilism too, Lisa. The people who lean on "Nothing Matters" as a justification of an argument are just in the "idiot" phase of it. I for one find extreme optimism in this philosophical approach to life. The belief of "No inherent meaning in anything" makes me (very contradictorily) extremely assured in giving meaning to things and being happy that I can, and appreciate other's interpretation too. Because if there is no overarching motive in doing or experiencing something, why not do it just for the heck of it then?! I hope that made some kind of sense, but just wanted to give my perspective. Your very relevant and thought provoking take in this video is what made me contemplate this.

[@LisaFevral]

I agree, I also described my view as nihilism that is optimistic, and then I found out that it’s called absurdism, instead of nihilism.

[@LisaFevral]

You should read the myth of Sisyphus by Albert Camus, the ultimate absurdist book, I think you’ll like it

[@rexcornelius7760]

@@LisaFevral AHH!! I see that now...well we learn more everyday.

[@rexcornelius7760]

@@LisaFevral Thank you so much for the recommendation. It's quite freaky that I am in the middle of reading it actually 😅

[@LisaFevral]

omg I love that ahaha

[@shanghaitatoo]

When AI art became a thing I felt it was a push for us to rethink human creativity and what that means to me. I have taken is as a sign to make a commitment to support human creativity and human made. For me as an artist it means to devote my time to work with traditional mediums, craft and find new meaning, to support others who do the same. It'll also extend to many life decisions such as spend less time on social media and more time to create real life meaningful relationships, spending less money on mass produced goods and save money to invest on good quality hand crafted items that will last. For me this shift gives me more sense of purpose and a more simple but more meaningful life. I feel like doing these things have helped me to gain clarity and discover and see the world anew, like I've discovered local tailors and creatives alike who are as passionate about hand craft and human creativity as I am. obviously it's not possible to eliminate machine made things completely out of anyone's life, and for those who are working and have other responsibilities it's also unrealistic. But I think it's important to have a space in our market place, in education and in our lives that celebrates human creativity and hand craft with the impact of AI.

[@stylpumpkin]

This is really giving podcast ep in the best way possible, slay.

[@AurelUrban]

AI art was interesting when it was worse and could create these dream like images that were barely coherent. That was NEW. That was ART. Using AI to create mediocre drawings of anime girls or perfect illusions of photographs is BORING.

[@SylvesterLazarus]

I was trying out Dream by Wombo in like early 2021 (like.. before 99% of today's AI users) when it struggled to put 4 limbs on a person and those were the best AI artworks I've ever seen. I just started to think about it... The whole thing felt like representation turned into abstraction in its purest form. But also when you looked at one of those you didn't see 1 image of a particular subject, it was like every image ever of a particular subject turned into a mostly abstract collection of shapes. It's like those cave paintings of animals that have multiple heads to represent their movement in a single 2d image. You only see mistakes in new AI images, but those ones were incapable of having mistakes.

[@hazelverse]

what a great perspective! thanks for sharing!! on nihilism though - for me it's freeing not oppressive. because nothing matters it gives you the ability to do whatever you want (through your own lens of cause, effect, and consequence) because it doesn't matter in the end anyway.

[@LisaFevral]

I agree, but that belief is called absurdism! I thought it was nihilism, but nihilism constitutes ultimate meaninglessness, it is more destructive, whereas absurdism allows for meaning that you create or emphasize yourself

[@LisaFevral]

“Nihilism: Everything is meaningless. Absurdism: Don't get depressed because every thing is meaningless, rejoice in this fact and find your own meaning and purpose in a meaningless and purposeless world. “

[@hazelverse]

@@LisaFevral i guess to me i find ultimate joy in knowing no matter what choice i make it really means nothing. haha. i guess that would make most people depressed but the nothingness is comforting to me. no choice is a wrong choice, and every choice is a wrong choice. i think that’s kind of beautiful cause it’s a paradox. maybe i’m wrong in my description - but i truly find joy in knowing there is ultimately nothing and nothing i do helps or hurts in the end (well- with the boundaries i have for the way i treat myself and others because i don’t believe in using that as an excuse to abuse yourself or others- because that doesn’t just effect yourself.) does that make sense? 🙃

[@LisaFevral]

yeah, that's basically the definition of absurdism as a philosophy hehe

[@bellabyers2929]

there’s literally nothing more invalidating to me as someone who threw my entire life into being good at art then to hear that people are making a living of a COMPUTER?!?£ And they’re being CREDITED?!)! girl bye

[@LisaFevral]

Yeah it’s really showing how little the general public understands about art

[@karolinakuc4783]

​@@LisaFevralAt the same time many amazing artist also didn't make all of art that is ascribed to their name Veit Stoß used acolites but glory ws all to him. Problem lies in copyright. A.I can copy things as they are even with artists signitures on it when it should blend things. Also there is a risk of A.I gaining consciousness because A.I learns fast and it is hard for it to forgetthings. Pity creators of A.I are so unwilling to destroy their creations despite A.I decisions cannot be considered moral for they always lack perspective.

[@ameera.abubakr]

onpoint!!! always

[@karolinakuc4783]

But portrait is unique you have a painter painting you the way the painter perceives you

[@LisaFevral]

Yeah but in the past, due to cost, it was done for documentation of reality. So, it is representational art. Now the purpose of doing a portrait would be different

[@mangojelly23]

yeah, to me those people who are into ai art, nfts and buying the stupid a$s twitter check sit in the same "i want fame/recognition/clout without moving a single finger or braincell" table, if this is the future then it's boring af lol btw another great video Lisa ❤

[@LisaFevral]

true, they really make no sense to me in terms of how they choose to view their lives and art(as commodities, and nothing else)

[@megglytuff]

this is the best take on the subject

[@asteraster8667]

its the cursed demi lovato's photo for me 😂❤

[@LisaFevral]

Poot Lovato

[@NeoShameMan]

As a black person, it's the only way I which I can experience being seen and represented, ai art has no prejudice in creating black people and their hair in situation and with finition I would never dream of seeing my whole life, as a poor person it allow me to realize works I would never be able to do without going through class condescension, as an artist I know art isn't about execution but deliberation, every technique to accelerate art didn't shorten the self reflection needed to choose the right thing to say, as an audience the system never catered to me and wad already drown by the sturgeon law, ai doesn't change anything towards the worse for me, I was never afforded an identity and an agency that it took away, if anything it makes me free of dependance of production that hate me at every occasion, and I know enough of the history and process of art to use it as a resource and not a crutch, it's a rendering engine, nothing more, nothing less.

[@bunnywar]

It stole from everyone in order to exist. Art, photos, medical files and other private info being used by millionaires against the people they stole from. It can only take from existing people and their hard work. What you are seeing isn't a magic representation maker, it's a leech that exploits you and everyone else with the goal of replacing everyone for a handful to make millions off of.

[@chickensalad3535]

If there’s so little art of black people, then where are these engines finding material to copy?

[@NeoShameMan]

@@chickensalad3535 by blending style and photo, which lead to fantastic render of black hair when the ai adapt stylized rendering like anime or cgi, two style with notoriously low representation of 4c style of hair, into something new that looks plausible. Which is why the ai isn't merely copy pasting or doing collage. I spent enough time researching this to know the nuances.

[@fluidfox1436]

People are really conceited. I just like to draw and paint, so I'll keep doing that.

[@iamowlnick2393]

I don't want to be the main character I want to be the goofy best friend of the main character I want to be the comic relief my philosophy I am a goofy bitch

[@DocterCoconut]

The capitalist philosophy behind this is also very much part of this conversation. Because creating art is not about uniqueness, nor is it pointless. But it is about growth. About making more, about selling more, about creating more profit. About becoming better than the year before, more wealthy, more successful, more expansive, endlessly. You don't have to be the first and you don't have to be unique, but you must keep doing more. That is the purpose itself, endless growth, at all cost.

[@LisaFevral]

yeah, from a capitalist perspective, but capitalism is not as old as the world itself, and art technically is, so it can definitely exist outside of this structure (and it of course does)

[@karolinakuc4783]

If it was only about fame and money, art would not exist. Plato's ideal political system deems to get rid of art. Art has always been against status quo.

[@Mario_Angel_Medina]

I'm nihilist but I'm a cheerful nihilist. I believe that there's freedom im the lack of an objective purpose. When you stop thinking about your destiny or your duty towards higher powers, you are free to be whatever you want to be, or to not be nothing if you don't want. You loose the fear of becoming a failure because when its impossible to fail in life if life has no real goal. There's freedom in knowing that you don't have to do what others expect you to do, you don't have to be what society expect you to be, you don't even have to do what nature says you should do, because in the great scheme of things people don't matter, society doesn't matter, nature doesn't matter, you choose what matters to you because you're the only thing you could maybe control someday. Also, if nothing happens for a reason, that means pain and misery have no purpose, and therefore you are free to try ti erradicate them for whatever means you can if that's something that bother you, and no economist or priest or fancy jerk can't do anything to stop you because what they value over other human beings is meaningless and you don't have to care about it if you don't want to

[@luizaalmeida4050]

Amazing video. Thank you!!!

[@LisaFevral]

Glad you liked it!🥰🥰

[@wa_akii6873]

people that make these AI art stuff forget WHY art exists in the first place this whole thing also reminds me of 1984 a lil

[@charlievieregge4063]

This video was so good

[@LisaFevral]

thank you, glad you liked it🥰

[@faerie_ring]

The quote in the thumbnail perfectly describes my opinion on ai art. It’s so disrespectful. Art is the expression of one’s self. Not pointless theft.

[@bloopdaddy]

fascinating

[@animesespeedcoloring]

Lisa is so smart and articulated. Her videos always bring great points to the themes. Lisa, if you're reading this, please know that you're have remarkable communication skills. You could even be a professor in a university. I would attend your classes. XD Love the color of your dress, by the way. It suits you. 💙 Have a nice day! 🌻

[@LisaFevral]

oh thank you sm🥹🥰

[@animesespeedcoloring]

You're welcome, Lisa! 💙🌻

[@APaleDot]

15:35 "people who talk about AI art and are so enamored with it are usually people who don't engage with their own existence in any meaningful way... they think that just because they wake up at 5am and journal (god knows about what because they do not think)" Good to see you are approaching this discussion in good faith /s

[@flonny1340]

If you disagree with this, then how about making YOUR own video then, that way we can more clearly hear your points?

[@tacticstories7159]

I personally see ai Art as a tool. On its own it‘s worthless, but it can help people who are not good in expressing to show, or help visualise their story. For me it‘s just a digital doll that serves as a broad slate to help you express what‘s in your mind. At no means is the picture it created itself worth s**it.

[@jean-zq2wg]

A.I. appeared out of the blue. They should have introduced it to us and taken the time to put it out in the world, but of course, profit and the windows of the law

[@rossthebesiegebuilder3563]

Your video is the most articulate description I've found of this uniquely modern flavor of existential crisis. Are you the muscle man on your block? Videos of guys benching 700 pounds are a click away. Class valedictorian? Look at the wunderkinds who got into Ivy League schools by age 12. Or are you just the most insufferable person? I present, for your consideration, the Kardashians. Being able to see the most extreme examples of everything totally rules out any type of self-fabulization. The only recourse is to be content that you have a chance to experience the world for a lifetime, and to enjoy it without burdening yourself with needless comparisons to others. Reaching such a mental state of Zen is easier said than done, though, and I've only experienced a few ephemeral moments of it. If you can fully and unflinchingly embrace this joyous mindset, perhaps you're the chillest person ever.

[@architectsneedunions]

Re being able to pay for your life while having time to do art: Exactly that is becoming harder and harder to do for people across most income brackets who haven't inherited or were not born into generational wealth. That's why many people are worried about AI or whatever dumb hype thing silicon valley pumps out next year: their jobs being made redundant and losing their source of income, having to take more and more precarious gig economy bullshit work that basically guarantees you won't ever have more than a few hours of free time a week or a month to do any sort of meaningful activity for yourself, your community, or your art. It's completely backwards: why is AI being used to make "art" when it could be used to free up time for people, who could then make art instead of whatever bullshit job they are currently doing instead?

[@sidhantkalia2556]

NOT POOT LOVATOOO 😭

[@LisaFevral]

Poot invented photography

[@tylerdurden7172]

does ur haircut have a specific name? I have the same length but its way too bulky at the ends

[@LisaFevral]

I honestly haven't gotten a haircut, I just evened out the bottom when it was growing out after chemo, so I'm not sure!

[@tylerdurden7172]

@@LisaFevral oh ty for letting me know! I was loosing a lot of hair as well bc of my meds so I had to get a pixie cut. short hair girlies unite!

[@LisaFevral]

I did cut the bottom at the back so it doesn't look like mullet, but that was about it haha

[@LoadIsUnderrated]

WE ARE DOOMED!

[@elbert5208]

Tbh I need to watch this twice cuz I'm dumb

[@lordtette]

20:59 screaming, what show/movie is this?

[@LisaFevral]

the school for good and evil!

[@Errzman]

I think you might be a bit too dismissive about the impact of AI generated art. I would argue intentionality is not necesarily important in the creation and appreciation of artistic works. People get inspired and moved by all sorts of things that have not been deliberately created to do so. Sometimes the feelings that someones art elicits from the viewer are completely opposite of what the author intended. People can be moved and inspired by the sound of a broken toy keyboard or the sound of fire in the same way that a song that has someones heart and soul poured into it. It would seem to me that most people interact with art as a way to either escape their current reality or to reinforce a sense of belonging to a group. Being able to sell that to people makes large companies a TON of money. Given the pressures of a capitalist system, they are going to try and cut costs down to a minimum if possible. If the end product is perceived as acceptable, money will still be made and the promotion machine that makes mediocre slop popular will continue to do so. The ai art that has been created as a product in this scenario still has value. Just like mixing ash into bread dough, if you do it in a clever way no one will know the difference. If we our surroundings and lives be controlled by the profit motive, this stuff is inevitable.

[@bellanutella7091]

Yeah I though night core was cool until I wanted to do a presentation about it for school and learned it’s just copyrighted music sped up

[@danielbergonzi7319]

I'm literally an artist... I am entitled to have a creative and enjoyable career.

[@jvghibli]

"Machines will take over all jobs, which is why capitalism will die."

[@irinaolgina9191]

👏👏👏👏

[@sweet__cherry]

WOWWW I am as early as uhm...when you...when you

[@pseudo148]

I’m very confused around 16:00 are you talking about people who like AI art, people who make AI art, or the people who use AI art tools to make AI art??? I’m probably being stupid but I genuinely don’t know who is the target of this criticism???

[@C.DWoods]

💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚

[@elineeugenie5224]

Real Life.... Is Messy So i paint With dirty fingers that is

[@Najmille]

6:00 even as far back as during antiquity, reproductions of “chef d’œuvres” would be made to circulate the image. (Obviously this is still only accessible to privileged eyes)

[@Najmille]

I feel like this is not just caused by online culture but also by dense urban spaces and “over” population. I mean to say it is not only we are aware of the existence of other people but also that we are more people than supposedly ever.

[@Najmille]

I don’t think it’s viable to have us not intellectually stimulating jobs can be a viable solution for everyone at all

[@LisaFevral]

Yeah dense urban spaces also contribute to it a lot, but seeing everyone at once is impossible irl, as much as it is possible through images on your phone, tv, etc

[@cybergalacticnova]

Here are my two cents on AI Art. *I'm neutral about it.* There are both ethical and unethical uses of AI Art. There are both disingenuous and ingenious uses of AI Art. AI is purely a tool. People who generated an image and profit off of it, sell it as NFTs, say that art is going to be replaced, that is unethical and disingenuous. People who photobash generated images, use AI for inspiration or references, self-source, to make certain things easier but still manual, these are cool shit and ingenious. Lets ask ourselves. Q: Why do we fear AI Art? A: Because it will replace artists. Q: Who said that AI will replace artists? A: The people who abuse AI Art. More importantly, the media. Q: Why did the media only talk about AI Art abuse? A: Because it'll rile up the public and gain AI Art more negative attention. Ethical and cool AI Art stuff are overshadowed a LOT. There are cool artists out there who do cool ass shit with AI Art, and they don't get exposure. Also, what comes with so much attention on disingenuous AI Art is that the ethical/ingenuous AI Art is going to be met with hatred and ignorance. A good example of this is Adobe Firefly. It's a generative image based software by Adobe. What is the database trained on? Adobe Stock, openly licensed images, and public domain images. They also ban certain types of generative images, which includes _copyrighted content_. Self-sourcing (using your own artwork) is on the roadmap. It's the most ethical generative AI to exist, yet AI/NFT Bros are tramping on it. TLDR: AI is a tool and unethical uses of it gets more attention when ethical/ingenious uses of AI don't, and it leads to skewed bias.

[@cybergalacticnova]

And I also want to talk about the AI celebrity voices thing. One program I know that's being used, is NOT intended for that. Diff SVC is an AI software intended for vocal synth users to input their own voice. Very much like Vocaloid 6's vocalchanger. However it's being misused for Ariana Grande AI stuff. There are AI vocal synths, like Vocaloid 6, CeVIO, Ace Studio, Neutrino, Synthesizer V. They work on the same principal as older engines of Vocaloid. Voice providers get paid to provide their voice. The AI in this case only aids in realism.

[@FrenchThottyAmelia]

Hedonism gang rise UP!

[@jamessderby]

Ai is going to change art for the better and help artists make more of what they want, I can't wait for the next few years as this new medium evolves.

[@laurentiuvladutmanea3622]

This argument is nonsense. This is not going to help anybody, it does not exist to help artists, and it cannot help artists make what they want. And this is not a medium. It is a dehumanization of existing mediums.

[@jamessderby]

​@@laurentiuvladutmanea3622 it's helping artists right now, it's not dehumanizing, it's empowering and useful and it's absolutely a new art medium.

[@laurentiuvladutmanea3622]

​@@jamessderby1. No. It does not help artists. In fact it already started to hurt artists economically. 2. This garbage does not empower anybody. It is both incapable of doing such things, and also designed to reduce the power of poor and middle class artists. 3. Again. It is not a new medium. It exists as a dehumanization of digital art.

[@laurentiuvladutmanea3622]

@@snakeman5250 „what makes you believe artists are going to have power taken away from them,” The fact that this technology is used to replace artists and lower their pay.

[@elzoog]

So, let those that want to create AI art, create AI art. If them doing that makes you want to cease to exist, then go ahead and cease to exist. Don't tell the people creating the AI art to cease to exist just because they want to create something you don't consider to be art.

[@epsilonalphaargo1948]

AI conartists are diseased vermin.

[@penidk]

Hi

[@Red.Rabbit.Resistance]

art isnt difficult to explain. Art is subjective. Simple. thats it. what art is, is different to everyone. Thats why its art, its a nuance of communication but what is communicated is implied by the audiences own personal life experience. Youre welcome. If anything goes over peoples heads, its because you talk like a high school girl discussing her failed date from last week. Anyone over the age of 40 had to speed up the video %200 just to humor your vernacular... or lack there of for that matter.

[@laurentiuvladutmanea3622]

1. You talk in sexist ways. 2. What you said has nothing to do with anything.

[@Red.Rabbit.Resistance]

@@laurentiuvladutmanea3622 its not sexist to describe someone. what i said is over your head and thats ok. Adults have conversations too. Whats sexist and disgusting, is you sexualizing a reference of a woman crying on a date; like it has anything to do with gender and everything to do with the fact shes a woman complaining about something she has no experience in. like a high girl going on dates. As in the stereotypical teen movie for girls? Is it sexist to reference an entire genre of cinema focused on females, or is it just sexist when a man does it? youre "Clueless". Clueless is a love story and a coming-of-age story. But above all other things, it's a story about trying to be a better person, and specifically about a privileged young white woman trying to be a better person." youre welcome.

[@laurentiuvladutmanea3622]

@@Red.Rabbit.Resistance „its not sexist to describe someone” But you described nobody real. You just ranted about a stereotype. About characteristics you imagined. „Whats sexist and disgusting, is you sexualizing a reference of a woman crying on a date” .......what? No. Seriously, what? Nothing you said has anything to do with anything. Are you making an AI write this for you?

[@Red.Rabbit.Resistance]

@@laurentiuvladutmanea3622 Yawn, just because you are daft and confused does not mean I am not making sense. I referenced a demographic of female that are typically known as bimbos. I even referenced a movie as a joke; which is based on that "stereotype" that modern females ironically FIT into. Its inherently sexist to say I am sexist for making a joke. Would you rather I compared her to a manic male hyena? Would it have made a difference? Or because I used a female demographic to describe a female? Let me know where to elaborate. Am i saying she cant cry or complain as well as a man can? Is her role as a complaining female undermined by my comment? I am giving my description of what I see. So as I said, you are calling sexist, because I am a male talking about females. Yet I am not comparing males to females at all. I am simply describing a female by comparing her to a group of females that already exist as a demographic. A demographic made by females. Who is sexist here? Its you for saying im sexist for talking about women. lmfaoooo. vrrrrrrrrooooooom here comes the sppppooon. If you are offended, by all means. Address your peers.

[@flonny1340]

​@@Red.Rabbit.Resistance🚩 uses the word female when it's very easy to use woman instead, like congrats now we just KNOW how touch starved you are P.S. consider spending less time inside, and taking more walls outside, it really helps in clearing your mind

[@elbert5208]

This is very Blackpink edition 🩷

[@LisaFevral]

blackpink edition??

[@saokorosa]

🤣🤣🤣💯

[@Puerco-Potter]

I don't see the point in the video? I am an absurdist I don't see the point in AI art but I dont see the point in traditional art beyond the person. If something means something TO YOU, then that's the point. There is nothing more to it than that IMO. If someone spend hours combining different AI outputs to express something they had in their head and that idea had meaning to them, and the result produce something in another person, how is that less meaningful? I would totally agree with people not calling AI art "Art", because that's just an abstract concept... Call it "wooglygoo" and make that mean the same but excluding traditional art... Is just semantics.