AI is Overrated - Why ThePrimeagen Ripped Out GitHub Copilot From His Code Editor [Podcast

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@quincylarsonmusic
@quincylarsonmusic 6 ай бұрын
If you learned a few new things from my discussion with ThePrimeagen, I've also done in-depth interviews with Jeff Atwood, Joel Spolsky, David Malan, and a lot of other devs. I publish these every Friday. You can listen to these on Spotify or your podcast player of choice. Happy coding. 🏕
@davidalex684
@davidalex684 6 ай бұрын
I Will check it out. nice toons
@dee.s.4513
@dee.s.4513 6 ай бұрын
Thank you Quincy for this and all your interviews. They are all interesting, and not just for the line-up but because you're such a natural interviewer. And, I really liked Prime's answer on AI, especially with him starting with comparing English with programming languages. AI has espcially a very long way to go to give you the exact design and styling you want for a web-page, and that regardless of how finely you may formulate your prompts.✌
@quincylarsonmusic
@quincylarsonmusic 6 ай бұрын
@@dee.s.4513 Thanks for your kind words. I am working hard on my interview skills, and I appreciate the compliment. I'll keep these coming.
@AnonymousAccount514
@AnonymousAccount514 6 ай бұрын
STP - Big Bang Baby
@davidalex684
@davidalex684 6 ай бұрын
Good 👍 jobe Quincy, remember God is always with you in whatever you are doing
@garland-key
@garland-key 6 ай бұрын
I can feel the pain in Primeagean's voice when talking about the past. Respect.
@KhalidWar
@KhalidWar 6 ай бұрын
He got me tearing up a little tbh. Mad respect.
@codenamerishi
@codenamerishi 6 ай бұрын
" My uncle abused me and he's in prison rn" "so what got you interested in computers" 😂😂
@sqlexp
@sqlexp 6 ай бұрын
The interviewer probably also had had similar experiences, so his trauma caused him to block it out immediately.
@brando8314
@brando8314 6 ай бұрын
Prime handled it like a champ. He did pretty good in the interview, too.
@KoopstaKlicca
@KoopstaKlicca 6 ай бұрын
Freud in his flesh ​@@sqlexp
@zaynmalice7106
@zaynmalice7106 5 ай бұрын
@@sqlexp what in the armchair psychology is this nonsense?
@sqlexp
@sqlexp 5 ай бұрын
@@zaynmalice7106 It's too painful for him to even think about it.
@ddddsdsdsd
@ddddsdsdsd 6 ай бұрын
14:03 I was abused too. I had neither a mom nor a dad. It’s a terrible feeling not being able to lean on someone your whole life. Then, most of us troubled kids choose the wrong partner, and the suffering gets worse.
@pachvandio
@pachvandio 6 ай бұрын
I hope and pray you find the healing you need and find yourself a healthy community. I’m sorry the people around you took you for granted and treat you poorly. I’m proud of you for sharing your pain here.
@tekmentor
@tekmentor 5 ай бұрын
I cannot stand the multitasking of the interviewer, much respect to Prime to take the interview seriously anyway.
@yannanydeira
@yannanydeira 6 ай бұрын
The first hour of this vid was SO incredibly valuable and his world view and background provided meaningful context that I can't even describe but I'm so happy I saw this, thank you The Primeagean for your time and Quincy Larson for this platform truly
@quincylarsonmusic
@quincylarsonmusic 6 ай бұрын
I'm thrilled you got so much out of it. We'll keep these insightful interviews coming. 🏕
@sandcurves
@sandcurves 6 ай бұрын
0 minutes in, "Do I really want to watch another AI take", 20 minutes in, "Quincy asks awkward questions", 30ish minutes in "this is okay, but Primeagean pops up too much anyway in KZbin", 55ish minutes in, "I think this is a classic, I should send this to my near-adult kids"
@Pavel-wj7gy
@Pavel-wj7gy 6 ай бұрын
It doesn't need to TAKE your job. It just needs to devalue it low enough on average to make it not worth it.
@crashingatom6755
@crashingatom6755 5 ай бұрын
Which it also won’t do.
@Jbombjohnson
@Jbombjohnson 5 ай бұрын
I think it’s so funny how people keep reducing the AI argument: “Software engineers are done in less than 5 years, AI will take all of your jobs” - *doesn’t and/or won’t happen* “Well it doesn’t need to take your job, it just needs to make it a much less valuable skill, so you won’t get paid for it anymore” - software engineering and coding still a highly valuable and complex skill to learn “…well it doesn’t need to make it a less valuable skill, it just needs to reduce how many engineers are needed to accomplish a task! Yeah that’s it!” - more efficiency leads to increased productivity, not significantly impacting the availability of roles “……alright well, it actually doesn’t need to reduce how many engineers we need… it just needs to… uh, saturate the market with juniors and other lay people!” - non-trained people still can’t code or understand software complexity. Companies continue to hire qualified candidates “……….well, I guess AI really hasn’t had the impact we thought it would on the software engineering industry. Better pack it up and grift on artists instead!” 😂
@darylallen2485
@darylallen2485 6 ай бұрын
46:46 - I went to the learning center at my university for calculus as well. There's nothing humiliating about it, in my opinion. This view that the learning center is humiliating sounds like an idea that someone has if they never went through the pain of being good at calculus. I earn high six figures as a network engineer and, to this DAY, calculus is the hardest thing I ever learned. As a result, I talk about math with pride because I learned it. I also went to my schools learning center for hours a day to get help with understanding the problem solving processes. We called it the MERC (Math Education Resource Center) lab at University of Colorado Denver. I love freecodecamp, but this is such an intellectually impoverished view that getting help to learn something is humiliating.
@gordonthomson7533
@gordonthomson7533 6 ай бұрын
Sorry to jump on one point unrelated to the actual point…. I’m curious - you say high 6 figs for network engineer? Lowest qualifier for “high six figs” is $600k or more…is that correct for you? I’m asking from UK….always good to know the world market for quality guys, but that’s 3 times the highest opportunity here.
@sp123
@sp123 6 ай бұрын
@@gordonthomson7533 he probably means closer to 200-250k and that could be due to things like on call, being on a contract, etc.
@Feeble_cursed_one
@Feeble_cursed_one 6 ай бұрын
One of the hardest things to do in life is to ask for help. Good job
@ci6516
@ci6516 6 ай бұрын
I don’t think that was his position . I used tutoring , but many people I know feel embarrassed about it. To pass trig I was spending so many hours . I was a HS dropout and graduate next year with a major in CS and a minor in mathematics. I needed the help .
@ssmith5048
@ssmith5048 6 ай бұрын
Good to hear his thoughts on AI / copilot. I never thought this was a good idea. Ironically, the only people who should use it are those who don´t need it, was always my thought. Interesting , but not surprising, to hear from someone who doesn´t need to use it, to then realize it was detrimental.
@TheStickofWar
@TheStickofWar 6 ай бұрын
Copilot in my little experience with it just became effectively a really good pattern completion tool. I have 4 callbacks to write, they all are more or less the same but the good naming means it's easy to guess the pattern. So it just writes what I was going to write. For all other cases it kind of sucks, gives bad code, etc
@tlz124
@tlz124 5 ай бұрын
I consider myself a really crappy to mediocre programmer, if I'm being honest. But I love it so I'll keep doing it. When I first used ChatGPT, it blew my mind because I thought I would finally be able to make things without spending years on projects. Then I saw George Hotz on the Lex Fridman podcast. He said that the code that ChatGPT makes is the same as rap songs that it makes. It's corny and embarrassing
@xOWSLA
@xOWSLA 5 ай бұрын
The fact that the interviewer writes everything all the time while Prime talks, is irritating. Also hearing the interviewer's breathing all the video while Prime talks adds to the top of that irritation. Other than that, it was a good conversation.
@mokshchadha9151
@mokshchadha9151 6 ай бұрын
I started listening to this podcast with the assumption just know about the AI hype, but this is a podcast is such a master class on so many different levels and topics. Kudos to freecodecamp for bringing out such content.
@quincylarsonmusic
@quincylarsonmusic 6 ай бұрын
Thanks, man. I'm doing my best to really bring out interesting perspectives from guests. 🏕
@mptcz
@mptcz 6 ай бұрын
This is easily best primeagen interview ive heard, and general deep take on life lessons. I can relate, I really appreciate this conversation. Thank you Quincy & Prime
@quincylarsonmusic
@quincylarsonmusic 6 ай бұрын
@@mptcz thanks for your kind words and for tuning in man. I will continue to do a ton of research and do my best to interview these devs.
@mokshchadha9151
@mokshchadha9151 6 ай бұрын
@@quincylarsonmusic Thankyou so much, keep up the good work.
@TheManinBlack9054
@TheManinBlack9054 6 ай бұрын
AI is clearly underhyped if you look at it from far away
@MrRobix13
@MrRobix13 6 ай бұрын
Oh, I've never watched a single freeCodeCamp video in my life, but the interviewer is just brimming with empathy - or is it just me? Primeagen is dropping some serious bombs, and the other guy's all, "So, um, how about that weather?"
@Quephara
@Quephara 6 ай бұрын
Engineer probably, maybe acoustic
@isaacjon
@isaacjon 6 ай бұрын
He's the creator of freecodecamp
@4m470
@4m470 6 ай бұрын
​@@Quepharanaw, fCC host still needs to grow as an interviewer and podcaster. I've seen a few other episodes and the guy isn't always present. It seems like he isn't thinking about what the guest is saying. To me it looks like he's thinking about the next bit. It's cool tho. He'll get better as he gains experience.
@quincylarsonmusic
@quincylarsonmusic 6 ай бұрын
@@4m470 Thanks for the feedback. If it seems like I'm not present it may be because I'm continuously taking notes and trying to think of subsequent questions the guest hasn't been asked before. As part of preparing for this I listened to all of his past podcast interviews and tried to steer the conversation around well-trodden territory into new places.
@4m470
@4m470 6 ай бұрын
@@quincylarsonmusic For sure. Thnx for the content and for fCC. You do amazing work.
@shiroxyui
@shiroxyui 6 ай бұрын
It is not about AI taking your job, it's about companies leveraging AI to make their existing employees or hiring fewer employees because they can get more productivity done with AI as opposed to having multiple people at it - this will lead to reduction in team size, which ironically will mean in some way that AI will take your job. People need to stop coping. The most competent, technical people will stay, those with midlevel competencies will be weeded out. This is essentially a form of eugenics and we've been doing this since the dawn of technological revolution.
@mikairu2944
@mikairu2944 6 ай бұрын
I'll say it again and again, this is just ego. "AI will replace everybody BUT ME"
@milii113
@milii113 5 ай бұрын
This, and so many of these people don't understand that AI doesn't need to do their job *as well as* them, it just needs to do enough to justify not having a human for it. In the end they don't care how shitty the AI work is because it's essentially free, so long as it can justify cutting salary it'll be used. This is literally one of the driving forces behind recent enshittification (just look at AI "journalism"). That, and the fact that the ones who are left will not only have to do their job, but will just be saddled with the work of managing the AIs and covering for the lost manpower. It's wishful and frankly naive thinking to believe that companies will hire dedicated specialists to manage all these lost positions over just dumping it on existing employees.
@andrewflanders262
@andrewflanders262 5 ай бұрын
AI best replaces junior devs, because they're often given the easy stuff that AI can handle. So what it means to be a junior dev will have to change. This is what I'm curious to observe. Senior devs who oversee an amount of complexity that is beyond what AI tools can encompass, won't notice much of a difference.
@programmingloop7
@programmingloop7 6 ай бұрын
The talk about AI starts around 1:40:30. Around 20mins after the timestamp :facepalm-emoji:
@athreadpool
@athreadpool Ай бұрын
Thank you so much if I hadn’t see. This id have clicked off
@calcs001
@calcs001 6 ай бұрын
This was difficult to watch at times. None the less, always a pleasure hearing the hot takes of Theprimeagen. Straight talk, no bs.
@TheAlgorithmicJourney
@TheAlgorithmicJourney 6 ай бұрын
Please elaborate on your point. How was it difficult to watch?
@mojojojo6525
@mojojojo6525 6 ай бұрын
The interviewer wasn't great most of the time
@thisbridgehascables
@thisbridgehascables 6 ай бұрын
I think the question about ‘potential’ should have been framed as : does one actually have the potential internally from the start to learn or does one have to learn to learn?? Like being born with an inherited skill or do we obtain through doing? Also do people have a built in limitation and no matter the time spent , results in no real accessible knowledge. Prime’s time philosophy is basically what I considered a form of calculated goals. You set a goal and measure all the risks to form a path to the goal. Risks don’t need to be dangerous but could be setting time aside, putting all your focus and chips on it. Almost a guaranteed success given the time you allow to develop and build what is needed to accomplish the goal. What Prime is building for the game engine is similar to a co-worker did with a card game.. years ago.. which caused issues because of the latency and memory.. hopefully Prime can solve it.
@tomisadone1145
@tomisadone1145 3 ай бұрын
Great interview from both parts
@digitalClay
@digitalClay 4 ай бұрын
Copilot (or AI coding) increases the abstraction, the divide between natural language and programming. IF you need and want to maintain the fluency of low level programming it's good to turn it off exactly like forcing oneself to go for a walk once in a while.
@dankprole7884
@dankprole7884 6 ай бұрын
This guy understands AI way better than the AI researchers I work with. Worrying!
@saliexplore3094
@saliexplore3094 5 ай бұрын
@1:57:00 the point he makes about language not being a precise form of communication is accurate imo. This means it's difficult to control the outputs generated by GenAI, which is crucial for many practical tasks.
@horrorcoder
@horrorcoder 6 ай бұрын
The talk is nice but they don't almost say anything about AI and copilot.. You cab skip to 1:43h
@landmimes
@landmimes 6 ай бұрын
ty
@nyx211
@nyx211 6 ай бұрын
1:40:00
@JimmyArcanum
@JimmyArcanum 6 ай бұрын
thanks that last part deserves a separate extrapolation great stuff
@matthewm8289
@matthewm8289 5 ай бұрын
Thank you:) !!!!
@vishaldinesh
@vishaldinesh 6 ай бұрын
What, I always thought the other guy was the founder of free code camp. Crazy.
@tdombui
@tdombui 5 ай бұрын
Love the guest and love freecodecamp, but I feel that some of these questions were convoluted
@jesse9999999
@jesse9999999 6 ай бұрын
In case the interviewer is reading, I think you've done a great job here but I don't think you need to qualify your questions as much - it felt like almost every question was preceded by "i don't want this to turn into an x conversation but..." - to me it could have felt a bit more natural not to worry about that kind of stuff
@quincylarsonmusic
@quincylarsonmusic 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback about that quirk of my questioning. BTW I wasn't reading. I was typing notes as he was speaking. I continuously take notes as party of my active listening process, so I can accurately restate things the guest says and drill in for more detail.
@jesse9999999
@jesse9999999 6 ай бұрын
@@quincylarsonmusic sorry I meant in case you were reading the comments!
@Ajax9523
@Ajax9523 6 ай бұрын
Awesome discussion. Really enjoyed hearing both of your takes.
@quincylarsonmusic
@quincylarsonmusic 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for tuning in, man.
@SnowDaemon
@SnowDaemon 6 ай бұрын
I watch most of Primes streams and most of his viewers don't realize how cool or difficult what hes doing is.... A lot of them do, but most of them dont appreciate it
@smilebot484
@smilebot484 5 ай бұрын
i worked at a bootcamp for 5 years. you only really start to learn how to code when you solve problems for yourself. new programmers will never learn to code with these tools. i see a lot of devs who never learned how to code without Ai. they can copy patterns but they can't really code
@pjosxyz
@pjosxyz 6 ай бұрын
he's sold me on not using copilot
@iorekby
@iorekby 6 ай бұрын
Cam confirm. SAP (which is practically as big as it gets for software engineering) ran Copilot on its engineering teams for 6 months. We're talking 1000s of software engineers here across as diverse a range of software projects as you can get. The review showed less than a 10% productivity gain. It was pretty pathetic.
@iorekby
@iorekby 5 ай бұрын
@jbaguetta You clearly don't work in tech. Let me educate you: SAP has been doing huge layoffs and quiet firing. They are losing more engineers than tiny AI productivity gains can make up for, and they are losing business. But sure brah "we save on €7 million on salary" because likes of Enterprise Co pilot is free right? Oh no wait Microsoft charge €10million a year for a company like SAP to use it. So net loss if 3 million + cost of losing business There's a stupid take here alright. But it's not mine.
@iguessjohn
@iguessjohn 5 ай бұрын
You are assuming 1000s of devs. I was assuming 1000. You are telling me a 10% gain is not worth 39 dollars per dev a month. 10m/40 = 250.000 devs??? Also Dirk Lüdtke posted 3 months ago sap is starting to roll out copilot internally. Stop lying cause of your own agenda dude....
@iorekby
@iorekby 5 ай бұрын
@jbaguetta Look companies likely SAP adopting Copilot is not about value add. Gains are tiny. It's about mass layoffs cost saving and bluffing to customers they are still getting same quality because AI makes up the difference, despite the fact it doesn't in this case.
@examinethose
@examinethose 6 ай бұрын
man this is quite the conversation...
@cariyaputta
@cariyaputta 6 ай бұрын
Thanks both for the talk.
@cariyaputta
@cariyaputta 5 ай бұрын
Turning off Codeium was the best decision for my programming growth.
@Ignotusvia
@Ignotusvia 5 ай бұрын
As dangerous as AI can become, for Engineers it does incapacitate the ability of novel problem solving because if you are not exposed to constant failure you can never rise above any challenge. This also brings up the question, if these marginal quasi-programmers become the majority then what will happen to the multitude of programming lanaguages? If the latter prevail then this can give rise to a singular language that will express machine replication instead of human thought.
@athreadpool
@athreadpool Ай бұрын
Work on your communication, I know you won’t but what you think you’re saying is not what you in fact are writing down.
@kerryb3798
@kerryb3798 Ай бұрын
@24:50 I think the level of "max potential" is sorta similar to the "impossibility" explanation. Ex: If you never read the docs, then that may limit your potential.
@jsharick7
@jsharick7 5 ай бұрын
Finally, someone else mentions how the word async makes no sense in the context of asynchronous programming. Was such a confusing hurdle for me
@LukeAvedon
@LukeAvedon 6 ай бұрын
The the Tapestry reference! My favorite Star Trek episode.
@rolandfisher
@rolandfisher 6 ай бұрын
Timestamps are all off. The thing you want to listen to is always ahead. Be prepared to skip ahead a fair bit. About fourteen minutes by the end.
@luckyalade4171
@luckyalade4171 6 ай бұрын
@ThePrimeTimeagen is a legend! Only legends know this guy. His reaction videos are epic.😂😂
@salomonmetre2117
@salomonmetre2117 6 ай бұрын
End of each of his videos : "Name's ThePrimeAgen !". Epic dev 🤣🤣!
@luckyalade4171
@luckyalade4171 6 ай бұрын
@@salomonmetre2117😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Necessarius
@Necessarius 6 ай бұрын
The FreeCodeCamp Guy Was typing 70% of the time or I'm wrong? it so annoying the keyboard sound.... But maybe he was doing something else?
@dawid_dahl
@dawid_dahl 5 ай бұрын
This was a surprisingly great conversation. Thank you! 🙏🏻
@jameswarren2222
@jameswarren2222 5 ай бұрын
Got to agree that learning to code and to build applications and infrastructure takes time. It takes months after getting a dev job to be basically useful and years to become proficient and decades to gain true mastery. The biggest block is not knowing what you dont know. No one can do a course and become an expert or even that employable unless the employer is happy to give time to learn on the job. I would say a much less stressful route to full stack dev is starting in something where its easier to get a job. Maybe second line support or QA or data reporting or often theres jobs going where you just sticky plaster some crap IT processes. These are jobs that are fairly easy to get as a new grad or even without a degree in the UK at least. From there, just make contacts within the dev team and seem interested and offer to help out on various projects once you know a few people and learn everything you can at work and do some programming outside of work. When a junior dev job comes up you will be in a much stronger position to apply and even if your coding sucks, you will know people and know the systems there which is already half the learning!
@cadmean-reader
@cadmean-reader 5 ай бұрын
I already feel it with fancier IDEs with their language servers auto-populating a tab-complete dropdown menu for an object's next method for python. Some days it actually feels easier to make something in C than in python, because of having learned one the hard way vs the atrophy facet. Can't imagine what GPT auto-complete will do.
@opslts.6024
@opslts.6024 4 ай бұрын
1:41:00 So for those who wants just the intelligence of copilot to assist them in their learning but don't want to be dependant on it. Just disable autocompletion, and keep the chat for moments where you really stuck
@petersuvara
@petersuvara 6 ай бұрын
There's so much freedom and so much information, it can get overwhelming. Self management is critical, I agree.
@kerryb3798
@kerryb3798 Ай бұрын
@11:33 OMG. Sence has been made, and a new way of thinking has been reveiled.
@kerryb3798
@kerryb3798 Ай бұрын
Start @ 9:50
@lingtoone3719
@lingtoone3719 5 ай бұрын
Get better at interviewing. The sudden jump from primeagen s trauma to "how did you get into computer science?". Really? Ugh
@tomaspereira4797
@tomaspereira4797 6 ай бұрын
“Art without imagination is craftsmanship and gives us many useful objects such as wickerwork picnic baskets", the same goes to coding, we make practical art
@void9545
@void9545 5 ай бұрын
13:00 I never knew that he grew up without a father figure. I feel extremely bad for him and it makes me wonder about my old SO. She also grew up without one. It seems to impact early development quite rough.
@MyWatermelonz
@MyWatermelonz 5 ай бұрын
Nope. There is a cope among both sides. The people who overhype AI (like the crypto grifters), and the people who underhype it. The gap is so large between them too usually. LLM's are VERY good for only a few years of progress. If sam altman is correct and gpt4 is the dumbest model going forward, then yeah, the next model is going to be able to template and make a lot of code and do it very well. Even now if you need snippets or specific info on a library it can help with that. It can not make full applications, though with agentic workflows it gets closer and closer. That's very expensive though to have 10-20 gpt4o's working on the same thing. You absolutely need to be wary of improvements. I mean freecodecamp makes its entire living off of teaching coding, so of course they want to tell you everything is fine. Even if we never get AI to do math and logic soon, if it can be trained on enough code it WILL output it at a rate better or equal to humans.
@SwolePatrol_1969
@SwolePatrol_1969 5 ай бұрын
You're so right, although I would say the overhyping is a bit more warranted. Exponential progress is something people don't have a proper grasp on IMO
@thomasballard1753
@thomasballard1753 6 ай бұрын
Dudes. Great chat. Thank you!
@SkNasimPC
@SkNasimPC 6 ай бұрын
Did they just deleted the privious video, and re-post it again 😕
@quincylarsonmusic
@quincylarsonmusic 6 ай бұрын
The previous version had some audio-video syncing issues so we re-uploaded.
@0drone
@0drone 5 ай бұрын
I literally don’t know Django at all and used it as my backend for a whole app.
@nadinejammet7683
@nadinejammet7683 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, Quincy, for the amazing platform you have created as well as these very insightful conversations.
@AtacamaHumanoid
@AtacamaHumanoid 5 ай бұрын
I did recognize that bass line, but your tone sounded way more like 80s hardcore so it threw me off! It would have made a good intro or a break for a Black Flag, Minor Threat, Cryptic Slaughter or Agnostic Front tune.
@cameronroman506
@cameronroman506 4 ай бұрын
Prime is slowly becoming my favorite online coder guy
@TheBadFred
@TheBadFred 5 ай бұрын
I feel like loosing control of my process if I have to rely on a tool.
@smilebot484
@smilebot484 5 ай бұрын
i think we do pretty much know that the current version of ai is flawed at the foundations. it's not intelligence at all. so this will hit a wall pretty fast.
@kennytheripper2526
@kennytheripper2526 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely I agree with him. Though these A.I. softwares like GPT services are giving somewhat free services as they are claiming to, but if you se either closer and analyse, it just is giving an approximate result which is not that relevant which you are exactly looking for. Their opinions might change your ideology from the very base level if you believe them too much. They call themselves unbiased, but I think they are just a company propaganda...
@adam7802
@adam7802 6 ай бұрын
AI is absolutely biased. Try asking them about more spicy topics.
@TheManinBlack9054
@TheManinBlack9054 6 ай бұрын
@@adam7802 sometimes to be true you have to be biased as truth isnt always in the middle
@adam7802
@adam7802 6 ай бұрын
@@TheManinBlack9054 Truth is based on facts not what is convenient to you.
@TheGreatOne93
@TheGreatOne93 5 ай бұрын
Ive used an IDE with a Copilot feature yesterday and it was annoying. It kept recommending me the wrong advice.
@johnmayfield7662
@johnmayfield7662 6 ай бұрын
As a person studying in a shitty uni in the middle east i can tell you that AI has fucked the job market up regardless of how dumb/smart it is
@qwerty6789x
@qwerty6789x 6 ай бұрын
no its not its the economy. Job market is tight if you know what it means. companies are not hiring
@abhis9353
@abhis9353 6 ай бұрын
Its greed. The economy part os done
@eye776
@eye776 6 ай бұрын
The 7% interest rates and the tax changes have hit the US job market harder than AI ever could.
@micoberss5579
@micoberss5579 6 ай бұрын
It's economy. It's the same here in Europe .
@sercan272727
@sercan272727 6 ай бұрын
Nobody lost jobs to AI yet, especially in software field I can tell you coding with AI assistance doesn't work. All generative AI does is improving research speed. The actual AI itself existed for over a decade
@PowerGurhl
@PowerGurhl 5 ай бұрын
Haha Ace Ventura: when nature calls! Was also my favorite. I memorized the lines. Loved that movie so much ❤ spent my childhood watching that and Liar Liar
@douggale5962
@douggale5962 5 ай бұрын
Copilot is utterly incompetent. It causes massive disgusting code duplication. Pretend chatgpt is a applying for a developer job, and give it some of the problems you would give a human. You will immediately realize that LLMs are utterly incompetent.
@samuelescobar6121
@samuelescobar6121 6 ай бұрын
I needed to vent this out and give my personal opinion. I believe in the mid term AI will replace jobs and I believe it`s inevitable but I believe we don`t have to worry since we can always adapt and work hard to still be relevant in the fashion of whatever time we are in. I believe learning to program is worth it though since we will have a lot advantage and experience over those who are giving it up right now so when AI hits us all hard we will already have explored tech and fall behind the trend. So adapting to the trend to survive keeps me positive
@mikairu2944
@mikairu2944 6 ай бұрын
Programming is always worth learning because of how much it teachers you about logical thinking. It'll be worth your time even when nobody needs to actually need to code anything, I think, as a way of training your brain
@umavictor
@umavictor 6 ай бұрын
I can't explain how much I love these kind of videos
@christianpenguin2651
@christianpenguin2651 5 ай бұрын
I came here for the AI part and got a lot more :-). I was myself realizing the hard way, that in order to be a proficient programmer, forget about the „work smarter“ or „work-life-balance“ fads. The grinding is real and it sometimes hurts, but it's the price any willing person pays in any profession. So we better get over it and stop complaining.
@imrang6055
@imrang6055 5 ай бұрын
One of my friends works for a large tech firm and he manages a team. They've just let 100 people go and replace them with artificial intelligence. The sales team are soon to be replaced as the new system is in beta testing as their replacement so AI will replace Jobs
@petersuvara
@petersuvara 6 ай бұрын
Settling for less is ok. We should be able to accept that being you, whoever that may be is acceptable, that you don't need endless ambition for you to be accepted. However, in our evolution and biology, parts of us are wired to go on the hunt, and the kill and reward make us work towards those goals, this is particularly true of men, who for millions of years focussed on that part of our social cohesion.
@Nemo-yt1gi
@Nemo-yt1gi 6 ай бұрын
jesus, i just realized i have exactly the same headphones as Quincy. Really great video!
@quincylarsonmusic
@quincylarsonmusic 6 ай бұрын
They're solid studio monitors - good for calls and great for mixing / mastering.
@Nemo-yt1gi
@Nemo-yt1gi 6 ай бұрын
@@quincylarsonmusic yeah, don't get me started on the price point. such a great value!
@jimmyadelaja
@jimmyadelaja 6 ай бұрын
CS Lewis 🙌🏾🙌🏾. Really loved that book
@ConernicusRex
@ConernicusRex 5 ай бұрын
For you juniors about to come here angry about this? Every time you use copilot, we can tell. We also have to take the time to refactor your code ourselves. Both of these things make us want to let you go from the team at the first possible juncture. Stop using copilot and learn to actually code.
@MyWatermelonz
@MyWatermelonz 5 ай бұрын
You can do both. Especially as the tool gets better and starts refactoring you.
@opeafolabi
@opeafolabi 5 ай бұрын
it's not that deep
@SpragginsDesigns
@SpragginsDesigns 5 ай бұрын
1:40:48 is when they actually start talking about AI.
@wetsand7379
@wetsand7379 6 ай бұрын
Was the song at the beginning Art School Girl by STP?
@quincylarsonmusic
@quincylarsonmusic 6 ай бұрын
That's so close. Same album by STP.
@josemartins-game
@josemartins-game 6 ай бұрын
AI is being hipped to get money from investors.
@sa-hq8jk
@sa-hq8jk 5 ай бұрын
i use neovim btw (harpoon btw)
@NomadicBrian
@NomadicBrian 5 ай бұрын
Anyone can write code. On one level or another. One of the most important factors that humans have over AI is the ability to think 'out of the box'. The ideas that just seem to come out of nowhere but are in fact manifested in the ability to go beyond borders in your mind to achieve a better solution. You can get there genetically by being born a genius or you can build it with time and an understanding to grasp patterns and train your mind to level up. You cannot do that if someone or something is always providing you with an answer. One of the things I always took care with when mentoring Jr. staff or helping students in college at the Academic Computing Center at Buffalo State University. All of my mentors and best managers helped me to perfect being a smarter contributor to my field. I say... 'don't finish my code asshole. Get the f*** out!'
@trevorfranks69
@trevorfranks69 6 ай бұрын
Insane collab
@justwanderin847
@justwanderin847 5 ай бұрын
how about a 2min version?
@hamadkhan4367
@hamadkhan4367 6 ай бұрын
I listened to whole video and the talk on the title is like 5 mins.
@jspnser
@jspnser 6 ай бұрын
Primeagen is the best
@mememan9890
@mememan9890 5 ай бұрын
WHAT IS THE SONG NAME ITS SO CLOSE IN MY MIND
@thewaymj3484
@thewaymj3484 6 ай бұрын
I’m in school for coding at the beginning I wasn’t using chatgpt/ai, but tbh it’s quite hard not to use the resource they provided. Ik i shoulfnt be using it but Ngl I became reliant on it it seems now. Before I was having dreams about coding now I haven’t had a dream ever since. But my goal ultimately wasn’t to get a coding job after I graduate which is soon I want to elevate/ innovate their business. Do I feel like I myself(yes) do I feel like I should go back n study more (yes). I really want to get into game development too. Enough of me talking
@thewaymj3484
@thewaymj3484 6 ай бұрын
Do I think ai will replace developers? not at the current moment but like nvidia said sooner or later everyone will be developers
@thewaymj3484
@thewaymj3484 6 ай бұрын
Regardless tho In order to use ai to help you code you need to know the foundation of it/structure
@krum303
@krum303 6 ай бұрын
Big Bang Baby!
@quincylarsonmusic
@quincylarsonmusic 6 ай бұрын
You got it.
@geekswithfeet9137
@geekswithfeet9137 6 ай бұрын
Theprimeagen is the most powerful insufferable creator in the programming space, like Dr disrespect except not an act, just an actual narcissist
@plaidchuck
@plaidchuck 6 ай бұрын
Yep imagine a whole industry filled with clones of him, the real reason you cant get a tech job
@mikairu2944
@mikairu2944 6 ай бұрын
I followed him because of his expertise a while ago, I stopped following him because he's him
@germangamboa3421
@germangamboa3421 5 ай бұрын
What makes you find him insufferable?
@Isra-p1
@Isra-p1 5 ай бұрын
So awesome you guys!
@jackwebdev
@jackwebdev 6 ай бұрын
Awesome podcast!
@TheBadFred
@TheBadFred 5 ай бұрын
My dad is alive, but a workaholic. I hardly ever see him.
@davidalex684
@davidalex684 6 ай бұрын
Also AI can duplicate itself so there may not be any need for people to become good at making robotics machines.plus over the years ive about AI taking over the world through many movies and video games like badland.So what you all think about this. Remain blessed Developers and programmers and Free code camp.
@RobertHorvat93
@RobertHorvat93 5 ай бұрын
More videos with Primeagen pls ! ❤
@qaw392
@qaw392 6 ай бұрын
PirateSoftware when?
@quincylarsonmusic
@quincylarsonmusic 6 ай бұрын
I'm familiar with him and may approach him in the future. 🏕
@qaw392
@qaw392 6 ай бұрын
@@quincylarsonmusic let's go
@Bielocke
@Bielocke 5 ай бұрын
The personal questions made me uncompfrotable AF
@quietcoast
@quietcoast 6 ай бұрын
Chapters are off. Great video though.
@acoward2176
@acoward2176 6 ай бұрын
AI will not take everyone's job.. but AI will help companies reduce the labour force. Just like computer helped us reduce a lot of redundant and useless profession.. AI will too.. So AI will cause some people to lose jobs..
@MrGreen-kq4ds
@MrGreen-kq4ds 2 күн бұрын
"so what got you interested in computers?" - segway was epic :) tell me you dont care without telling me you dont care , lol oh, your father died and you were abused? cool - let's talk about computers now
@agongjonbalaj3047
@agongjonbalaj3047 6 ай бұрын
Omg the interviewer is totally annoying. While trying to do do 10 things at the same time he totally disrespects the guest by typing and focusing on other things.
@opencode1
@opencode1 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for your effort :) YOu guys are amazing
@lowkeycode
@lowkeycode 6 ай бұрын
When worlds collide
@Mirgeee
@Mirgeee 6 ай бұрын
It seems like the host is barely listening and just asking questions off of a list.
@mojojojo6525
@mojojojo6525 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, 😅 That dad part was wild
@dipereira0123
@dipereira0123 6 ай бұрын
About the AI/ Copilot Take: By this loigc Airline Pilots would still be using paper maps and navigating holding the handles 100% of the time
@jc-aguilar
@jc-aguilar 6 ай бұрын
I understood something different. Let’s use the same analogy, if you want to be an airline pilot. Don’t start flying with autopilot, first you need to learn how to fly without autopilot. Then, you can use the fancy autopilot. You need the thousands of hours to be a safe pilot. At the end of the day, as a passenger you don’t care if the pilot use paper maps or digital or whatever. But, you care that a pilot knows what to do when s*t hits the fan and gets you alive where you want to go. I think he is saying that we need to really understand the tool, really understand it. Only then you can use things like Copilot that can help you safe time or be more productive. For example, you want to learn Go, do it the hard way without Copilot. Wait until the muscle memory is set. When you feel that everything is ingrained, then you can integrate tools like copilot. But, still be cautious that it’s not atrophying that muscle memory.
@kingdomVI
@kingdomVI 6 ай бұрын
I had doubts about AI taking over our jobs, but hearing this explanation, I feel like AI might take our software engineering jobs after all. Prime needs some rest the explanation felt slightly all over the place, not his best podcast.
@Gazer-x5s
@Gazer-x5s 6 ай бұрын
true, after I saw GPT-4o demo, well it is job over.
@jesse9999999
@jesse9999999 6 ай бұрын
when it doesn't feel like i'm wrestling the correct answer out of it in most cases, i will agree. i'm not convinced we'll ever get there, and tbh this feels a lot like the conversations about FSD cars
@ConernicusRex
@ConernicusRex 5 ай бұрын
This is the easiest way to let someone know you have no engineering experience. This take. Right here.
@TheNora_
@TheNora_ 5 ай бұрын
Hmm I notice a belief that things must be hard if they are to be worth something… i personally don’t endorse it…
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