Ai vs CNC Programmer: Ultimate Showdown

[@davidawaters]

Very interesting. I’m looking forward to more videos on this topic. Do they both do quoting? Looks like cloud nc is only $99/mo which is something I can actually afford 😂

[@ChipMonkeys]

While cloudNC does not quote the part, you can get an approximate cycle time in a few seconds with it. : ) It’s still a big time saver. Definitely worth a trial run.

[@cwelch5725]

ToolPath does quoting and it is only $799 per year.

[@ChipMonkeys]

@@cwelch5725 I didn't know it was out of beta?

[@cwelch5725]

@@ChipMonkeys They are taking subscribers now. I just signed up.

[@ChipMonkeys]

@@cwelch5725 That's awesome! I have been really impressed so far.

[@ChuckAndArbor]

It was a great idea to test this out and I appreciate you guys sharing the results! I don't think AI will be replacing talented programmers any time soon, but it definitely does have a place in helping with time management and quoting.

[@TomZelickman]

That was a fun way to do the test. I also think you did a good job of setting expectations on the current state of these tools. Nice job!

[@ChipMonkeys]

Tom, this was meant to be funny and an introduction to Ai in cnc programming. I hope everyone takes it like you : ) Hopefully we can catch up at IMTS

[@TomZelickman]

@@ChipMonkeys Yep, loved the funny approach! It made it much more enjoyable to watch. I'll have some booth duty but mostly will be free to walk the show at IMTS. See you soon!

[@user-gb9wj6vs8i]

Ai and CNCmachining we may just go onto mars like if it was a taxi from New York to Montreal

[@AlWhatmough]

Is that human kind vs Ai or vs AL… I hope it’s not vs AL I truly believe that technology like this, whether it’s our (Toolpath) or others (CloudNC) empowers manufacturing professionals to do 😊more.

[@ChipMonkeys]

AL vs Jeff is a future video that I believe will get a ton of traction. Thanks for heads the up on my capitalization error. : )

[@akibjaved7659]

I really like these these types of videos.

[@alexjukian]

Awesome technology, I think thats the future in CNC programming. We will be more time in front of the machine instead of being sit in front of the

[@user-bb3kl3hv1n]

Would have been nice to see the surface finish of the cut parts, and also see how much wear the generated toolpaths put on the tooling/how many parts could be cut before tools began to fail.

[@ChipMonkeys]

Good point! This is just the first video of many. Both Programs use the speeds and feeds that are setup in the tool library. They also use the step-overs / depth of cuts if they are defined in the tool library. So, you do have some control over the finish and tool life. Thanks for a great comment! We will incorporate that in a future video.

[@CNCMachinistEducationNetwork]

I see that its takes the Xyometry quoting idea one step further by actually programming. Better that maybe FBM and maybe Featurecam? pretty cool

[@ChipMonkeys]

Yeah, hopefully it won't take the fun out of making parts : ) Thanks for watching!

[@steptool1]

Good video! Think AI will be a huge help in the near future. The main hurdle will be the ease of the UI to use and cost.

[@ChipMonkeys]

I agree! I just hope it doesn't take the fun out of machining.

[@TheFoodVoyager]

Itll be interesting to see what the next decade has in store for us!!!! Great video!

[@tyreeceisaac6391]

Loved this demonstration. Awesome vid 👍

[@Kveiteson]

May I ask what the big news are with this two mentioned new tools? I would like to see this compared to a CAM that has good automation routines. These CAM‘s + their automation routines are around since years and running in shops all over the world 24/7

[@ChipMonkeys]

You're not wrong! That's the same question I asked myself. I remember using FeatureCAM back in 2000, and it had "Automatic feature recognition." This is way beyond that. Toolpath Labs can even build the setups, pick the tools, then make the operations for milling and drilling of complicated features... Selecting the geometry. Right now, it can be a time saver, or waister haha. In a few years, programming machine tools could be very automated. It won't work for everything, like parts that get flimsy. Thanks for the realistic comment!

[@Kveiteson]

@@ChipMonkeys thx for your answer! I was more talking about proper automation tools like hyperMILL has available for example. Simple feature recognition and applying a pre defined job sequence is no rocket science 😅(and I don’t wanna talk this down, I know how many possibilities and how much work is already in that). I’m more talking about stuff like starting your software remotely, pulling geometry and information from somewhere on a server, choosing fixtures based on the model and available stocks, create the setups, and so on.. after all of that comes the point where toolpaths have to be created, but what’s with the rest of the process^^ there is the true power hidden for me! Nevertheless, these tools do focus on a big need as there are many many shops still up to today that are not using any kind of automation. And these shops also don’t have the stuff that could handle it to built up something like this. Interesting topic, let’s see where it will go

[@user-ic1vh5gu1r]

Very impressive presentation

[@howesinc]

Total awesome video! Loved every second of it👍🏼

[@ChipMonkeys]

Thanks man! We have some Motorcycle parts we will be running in a few episodes. Let us know if you have any suggestions!

[@derjuden]

It would be helpful to see the time it took with the editing you had to do to produce the part as expected ie dealing with the accuracy issues that AI has. To me in all fields this is what really matters and not so much the raw speed as long as its within a reasonable amount of time. I don't know CNC machining but the times you provided don't seem to add any value to you but as you mentioned the quoting system does.

[@ChipMonkeys]

That's a good point. We are looking forward to making more Ai videos to cover aspects of using Ai like that. Particularly 3+2 production parts. There can be a lot of editing for some parts, but 2-1/2 D is pretty solid if you have good geometry. That's why we picked this part for the video. It required No editing. I'm running a production job now using CloudNC, and I used most of the operations. There was a lot of editing, but it was faster overall. I agree about the time, aspect. Ai is quick on programming, but is it more work to edit it than just program it yourself. Right now, that depends on the part and geometry. Thanks for your well thought-out comment!

[@sanjidaakter6013]

Awesome video!

[@jaydentucker8992]

So I think I learned something but I’m for sure

[@ChipMonkeys]

You did, you're welcome

[@tomaskara902]

hmmm so 185 seconds, 1 minute and 125 seconds or 3 minutes and 5 seconds :D

[@ChipMonkeys]

I don't know what this means, but I'm sure I messed up some where. : )

[@jflaherty01]

Awesome video!

[@ChipMonkeys]

Did you hear the Cowbell?

[@heatherlowman8745]

Who were those 2 guys at the end?

[@ChipMonkeys]

Guys? I only see two young boys??

[@xl000]

Wait, kids are using AI to do their homework ? Isn´t that unethical ?

[@ChipMonkeys]

Yes, but at this point, it is probably better for them to be prepared for the real world. : )

[@kellyflaherty6283]

This is great! 😂

[@ChipMonkeys]

I made this for you

[@alexsokolowski9036]

These guys look smart

[@ChipMonkeys]

Hahaha

[@user-lo4me9oe9z]

is it actually AI, or is it just a more streamlined workflow in the software using the hype of the term "AI" to sell more software

[@ChipMonkeys]

That's a really good question. Is it good automation software, or is it really leveraging Ai? CloudNC has on their site that it is the "Worlds First Ai solution for CNC Machining." I asked Ai to draw me a picture of a CNC Milling center. There were lasers and like 10 piece wearing construction hard hats and the mill was a 6 axis ABB robot. I have my doubts. : )

[@AllenBithinia]

Awesome technology, I think thats the future in CNC programming. We will be more time in front of the machine instead of being sit in front of the computers

[@user-ic1vh5gu1r]

Very impressive presentation