'AI Will Replace Manga.'

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Mugen

Mugen

Жыл бұрын

AI is becoming so advanced that a manga created by AI is now being serialized. This raises questions about the future of manga and the creative industry as a whole.
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@maxwilliams6199
@maxwilliams6199 Жыл бұрын
art student here, in my expirience I think with the topic of AI I find myself in the middle, especially that a lot of my peers and I have to use AI for homework given by our teacher, however there are points I agree with both sides for example AI will part of our future. and who knows we might have a well adapted berserk series with every crazy detail that kentro Miura puts in his manga, however what makes the conversation far difficult are FOR EXAMPLE artists finding out that there art are being stolen in reddit or any websites and they find comments of those people saying not to mention the artist, or the comments of some AI users in twitter telling other artist to step aside cuz AI art is the new way now which I find super rude to bully artists IMHO as neutral and respectful as I can be from what I observed a lot of artists in it digital or traditional dont want the AI to go way but what there saying there should be some ethical rules and boundaries so both can coe-exist
@mugenbop
@mugenbop Жыл бұрын
I think you have encapsulated a side of this discussion that I was not able to capture in the video, thanks so much for the comment :)
@a_new_dude7794
@a_new_dude7794 Жыл бұрын
You can't fully replace humans when talking about art. Stop motion is a niche market, but it didn't disappear because of new forms of 3D animation. I think the bigget misconception people get from this situation is that now everyone has the tools to do art and become the next big thing. You might take less time making a comic, but how are you going to promote it? What about printing it? If it was that simple, the market would be flooded with stories that nobody would have time to read. Money will still be a big problem, but companies would still need someone with artistic knowledge to understand if what they put out works, it doesn't work only vice versa. And of course, you can't force someone to work using only A.I., we have been using the same tools for thousands of years, there's no way you can change this kind of market in the blink of an eye.
@kaikuzuki
@kaikuzuki Жыл бұрын
I'm not even trained and I know it looks weird 💀
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa Жыл бұрын
@@mugenbop we need universal basic income
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa Жыл бұрын
@@mugenbop what you think about ai generator cinema
@orestisbarakos2042
@orestisbarakos2042 Жыл бұрын
Liisten.. as an art student i can assure you that ai art looks terrible to the trained eye.. Nothing is wrong with digital media, but when it comes to ai and photobashing.. you're not just tracing. Even tracing needs skill to look good. Photobashing and AI art are not tools that just help, instead they're cheap shortcuts
@kranberryjones1449
@kranberryjones1449 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Ppl will work hard for the next 20 yrs to mitigate the shortcomings that you mentioned
@modernmyth9050
@modernmyth9050 Жыл бұрын
Cope harder
@Dewfie
@Dewfie Жыл бұрын
Art student criticizing photo bashing and not realizing it's heavily used in commercial art for time efficiency. I genuinely hope you aren't going to art school for non-commercial ventures.
@tron401
@tron401 Жыл бұрын
@@modernmyth9050 😀
@huey1910
@huey1910 Жыл бұрын
@@Dewfie they specifically said tracing need skills to look good
@candyvegitto1310
@candyvegitto1310 Жыл бұрын
Artificial Intelligence is certainly helpful, but only to some extent. Once that extension is exceeded, it is the A. I. that starts to use the user.
@redgrave4492
@redgrave4492 Жыл бұрын
I think AI could be great for helping people get different concepts. Though as someone who looks up to many artists, I think the loss of the human element/individuality with AI work as a final product wouldn't sit well with me.
@hkkobayashi7657
@hkkobayashi7657 Жыл бұрын
Ai art, besides looking uncanny and unfinished a lot of the times, misses having a special art style and heart. I love when I read a manga or see an artist on a site and can know it was drawn by them by the way the artist draws eyelashes or facial expressions. I have never seen ai art do that before. It always looks like the most basic non heartfelt stuff to me whenever people try to show it to me. As someone who loves manga and fanart, I don't like ai art. I'll probably never accept it. And I really don't like it being compared to digital art or drawing your stuff on a computer. It's not the same, it still takes a long time, it still has your heart and soul put into it. It's still you.
@rynsart
@rynsart Жыл бұрын
Comparing it to Digital Art is pretty stupid ngl, the way I draw is pretty much the same as traditional, the only difference is that i have extra tools to make it faster and easier, like Liquify, Selection tool, brushes people have made on the Asset store and easier erasing.
@hkkobayashi7657
@hkkobayashi7657 Жыл бұрын
@@rynsart There is a difference between a small short cut and just having ai copy and make it for you. Like I saw a creator had made a brush on some site that would make drawing African American hairstyles much better. It's great and it helps! But that artist drew the hair herself and made the brush. When others use it they still have to actually know how to draw and form a hairstyle for who they are drawing.
@samankucher5117
@samankucher5117 Жыл бұрын
the best part about "Ai art" is it is not made by Ai because their is no Ai it is just a ML algorithm just like the KZbin recommendation algorithm lol it is just a ML algorithm that mixes what it is trained on and that training data is mostly stolen and used without permission .
@rynsart
@rynsart Жыл бұрын
Yep exactly
@themightyflog
@themightyflog 9 ай бұрын
I love how ONE proves that you still need talent to draw vs what artists always say "Just learn to draw"
@moominkomet
@moominkomet Жыл бұрын
I’ve always had mixed feelings on this. Anime has used some form of digital enhancement since like 30+ yrs ago. I have no issues with this or digital art, because there is still a human behind the art. A purely ai generated “work of art” without the human input, the necessary esthetic editing, can look ….. ugly. The uncanny valley is something that the human eye has evolved to pick out. We see when things are “off”. Do I like this new potential future where animation and storytelling is AI generated? No, I feel we may loose the human element in these works. They get close, but it may not have any soul. Use it as a tool, not a replacement for the infinite potential of a human mind.
@shrimp4352
@shrimp4352 Жыл бұрын
As technology progresses there is going to be a lot of stuff that Ai is going to do instead of humans. As an artist, I believe that Ai should be a tool to help people not replace them. Art that was done by an Ai loses its worth. The time, thought, skill and practice it takes an artist to create something cannot be replaced that easily, it's just not the same. However, companies are not thinking this way but mostly about making shortcuts and having fewer staff to pay.
@mugenbop
@mugenbop Жыл бұрын
I definitely feel worried the most about what companies are going to do with this technology as the investment in the programs would be a huge payoff to them in the money they would save, and the quality not mattering so much as general consumers probably wouldn’t notice.
@rynsart
@rynsart Жыл бұрын
I'm an Art Student and I'm sorry but no. If AI is the future of Manga and Anime, then it will be the Future of basically a majority of the Art community. It's not a good thing, the content you will consume will be worse quality And some Artists will lose their passion, which results in low morale in artists. The Whole reason why I'm even doing Art is because I enjoy it, It's fun and I like the Challenge (Dark souls fan Btw). If My career is not challenging, I will not enjoy it. AI being used as a tool would be cool if the databases of the AI were Original Artwork provided by the Company or original artwork you have made. At the moment AI uses a database that contains Other Artists work, Which is pretty much stealing. Some say ''Well artists copy each other all the time, What's the difference?'' The Difference is that We Artists copy each other for practice and to study, To try and develop our skills and get better at: Anatomy, Lineart, Colouring, Perspective, Architecture, and others. We also do it to try and develop an Art style, Its called Inspiration. A Majority of us do not use these studies for any profit. This whole ai stuff may result in lawsuits and more legal issues on the AI Companies and the people who have profited from it. They're just slowly digging their graves.
@imnugget8085
@imnugget8085 Жыл бұрын
A.i does the same you just can't understand it copy to learn and improve it does everything a artist can do but faster and better u need to accept the future I wrote a book with cover art a whole litarture book with 100 pages no history of writing and drawing you need to accept it or me a minimum wage worker will replace u and thats what im gonna do make my own stuff
@imnugget8085
@imnugget8085 Жыл бұрын
Also that book took me 40 mins like 49 mins yes I told it what I wanted to add and delete rename some stiff but it's original now I'm using mid journey to character create my two main characters Sol and Nox and it's a modern roman brother like tent mix with God of War but about blood lines and why Roman were so powerful ect
@imnugget8085
@imnugget8085 Жыл бұрын
TMNT WITH GOD OF WAR and two brother not 4 and about Roman fail and what that means to there gods as they weaker without prayers and sacrifice of the Roman people
@Erik-vf9yn
@Erik-vf9yn 11 ай бұрын
@@imnugget8085 I can guarantee whatever 'you' did is horrible, clown.
@greasybumpkin1661
@greasybumpkin1661 8 ай бұрын
what AI currently offers isn't even a tool, not even remotely close to something like the magic paintbrush tool, where you have to manually adjust and guide the process. Generative AI is a service, and prompting is no different to being a paying client asking an artist for a piece. It lacks any specificity. Really what people are doing by using these services is training the AI to be better, that's why a lot of it is free, it's all big data at the end of the day and even the prompters won't be needed in time. Unfortunately for this illiterate marshmallow above me, he'll still be working min wage for a long time.
@2265Hello
@2265Hello Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately based on recent events and the massive support for ai by the government(including Akamatsu) and social media we may actually see more ai in manga if not plain ai made manga than we would like. Furthermore their government propagates that current AI (which really isn’t AI most people think of). Should live in a lawless realm. Those who are against it are ridiculed in social media
@TheThreatenedSwan
@TheThreatenedSwan 8 ай бұрын
The copyright issue should keep it relegated to a tool for now instead of filling up the internet with terabyte upon terabyte of things ranging from quite good to completely incoherent.
@LJkiller
@LJkiller Жыл бұрын
AI is just such a delicate discussion, I know why people don't like AI, I know why people like AI, I can see both sides since I am in the middle. I'm open to AI while I'm concerned of what it could strip people away from. So it's hard to stand on a side, for AI or against AI.
@mugenbop
@mugenbop Жыл бұрын
It is a good start to just say hey this is all weird y’know?
@LJkiller
@LJkiller Жыл бұрын
@@mugenbop yepp, basically how humans survived, "This is weird" thus set backs in scientific research a lot of weird stuff, but we're still alive, and I think artist will continue to make a living, but in a higher competition field
@Im-Ekko
@Im-Ekko Жыл бұрын
Amazing Video👏🏼 i really hope you get the attention you deserve.
@samankucher5117
@samankucher5117 Жыл бұрын
in the end i am only ok with it if artists opted in to use their work to make Ai/Ml image algorithm otherwise am 100% against it . good vid bro :)
@mugenbop
@mugenbop Жыл бұрын
Thanks man
@a_new_dude7794
@a_new_dude7794 Жыл бұрын
Speaking as a (hopefully) future comic artist, I remember when people where also bashing against digital art (tablets, photoshop, etc.) because they thought it was more like a shortcut to achieve better results in a much faster way. Needless to say it's not always the case: most artist that use digital devices can take as much time as a painter, since the level of detail is virtually limitless. The whole talk about "we won't need real people anymore because of technology" honestly makes no sense to me, there has always been a need for people to express themselves and see others do the same through thoughts and gestures. If someone wants to tell a story of which an A.I. can comprehend every single detail through instructions, so be it. My only critique is that for now those works look too fake, since A.I. still can't elaborate influences the same way a human can, most of the time they look like copies of other works instead of original ones. I think that to use A.I. you still have to study how composition, layout, prospective and more work, otherwise you'd just get a mess of a comic. For now it's just a cheap tool that people are experimenting with, we can't really predict what's going to happen, but we won't be in shortage of human artists, that's for sure. Also, about that Corridor anime: to be honest, I think it looks really bad, it felt more like watching someone trying to animate facial expressions without ever looking at a real human, and the amount of shadows was really excessive, especially on the faces.
@NikoKun
@NikoKun Жыл бұрын
We cannot hope to halt progress, merely to maintain the status quo.. We can only strive to adapt to the new normals that emerge from that progress. IMO, we need a "Citizen's AI Dividend" ASAP, to reimburse everyone for the data they create, which gets used to train these AIs. It is the only fair solution. The changes we're seeing now, will be looked back upon similarly to how we view the industrial revolution, with just as much, if not greater, job displacement and unforeseeable outcomes. However, because of the nature of automating cognitive and creative tasks, it's very likely that the average person will not be able to compete to earn a survivable income. The idea many politicians currently fall back on, that somehow magical "new jobs" will be created, is but a fallacy and ignorant wishful thinking. There is no possible "new job" that could possibly employ all the masses displaced, because if said job is easy enough any average joe can do it, why not just have the smarter AI do it, instead? Indeed, this technology is proof that our economy is not really compatible with where we're heading, and it necessitates we change societal norms, like the requirements we place on individuals to justify their survival. Instead we need to find a way to improve the quality of life for all, not just a small percent of us that made it into the "owner-class" before AI automation takes over.
@mugenbop
@mugenbop Жыл бұрын
Mmmmm a well thought comment
@thisrandomdude_
@thisrandomdude_ Жыл бұрын
I think you pretty much managed to encapsulate most of my thoughts on the matter. I wasn't as against it as most other people just like you, though not to the same extent. Still, I think you managed to make a very nuanced and realistic opinion piece on the subject. Great stuff :)
@nomology6482
@nomology6482 Жыл бұрын
This was a very difficult topic to talk on, i really like ur approach on the whole ai thing.... i also draw so i can understand how artist might think abot the whole ai image..... This was a very nice video, i like that u arnt doing only anime manga, if possible u should do some livestream... this was really fun and informative
@mugenbop
@mugenbop Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that
@NightPhoenixPress
@NightPhoenixPress Жыл бұрын
I used to do the background thing all the time. Also using AI is much better when you're an artist.
@SynoNAck
@SynoNAck 8 ай бұрын
Omg your one of the most balanced people to talk about AI art! We need more people like you. For me i just see AI as a tool and I can easily tell the difference between ai art and real artists anyway. People just need to be more transparent when using AI art in there work. I appreciate that more than people just lying about their art skills.
@mhdrkbalm
@mhdrkbalm 5 ай бұрын
It will happen, but i think it is a good thing considering how much debt studios go into to make anime. It will allow smaller studios to make anime look as good as we have now but need less man power. Original art will be mostlikely made but closer to key framing and modeling used to train ai. the goal post is only going to move on quality as there's going to be more competition. though just my theroy
@ConvincingPeople
@ConvincingPeople Жыл бұрын
So, here are my thoughts: "Artificial intelligence" is a misleading buzzword for generative tools, which in one form or another have existed and been used in multiple art forms for decades-Markov chains are particularly famous and can produce some really wild stuff, but a more subtle example would be the generative programmes that the electronic group Autechre created in MaxMSP to assist in the creation of albums such as Confield. The fundamental problem with those generative tools is not the tools in and of themselves, but how now big businesses and tech startup culture have latched onto them as their newest confidence game and will misuse and abuse them to screw over people in creative professions because they have no actual respect for art or artists beyond how profit may be extracted from them. There could very well be numerous beneficial ways in which these tools can be used to assist artists operating in good faith, but those acting in bad faith are the ones with the money and the power in this equation right now, and I find that immensely depressing.
@laqrwd
@laqrwd Жыл бұрын
just subbed good high quality shit and your not a bore
@mugenbop
@mugenbop Жыл бұрын
thanks bro hope I keep up the quality for ya
@bobbysmitty1628
@bobbysmitty1628 Жыл бұрын
The anime/manga industry is exploitative. While AI could be useful, this may very well be used in large part to further undercompensate artists for their work and justify mistreatment of workers. I'm a fan of innovation, however, I am against using innovation to disenfranchise certain groups, especially workers who profit the least.
@mugenbop
@mugenbop Жыл бұрын
Big agree on that one mate
@10000fullmetal
@10000fullmetal Жыл бұрын
Ain't no way he using Overkooled as the backing track. Haven't heard that in forever, cool video though
@mugenbop
@mugenbop Жыл бұрын
Yessir
@napalegeK
@napalegeK 11 ай бұрын
what if the mangaka itself selling their artstyle, like "AI with the famous style of T.Inoue or S.Shinichi Sensei" then, there is 100 manga title with Vagabond's style 😅😢😮 damn 😢😢 also, will it boost the economic things? ofc i think. but will it cultivate the state of art? idk. confusing-peko
@Skeleman
@Skeleman Жыл бұрын
most of the hate AI art gets boils down to this: people value someone having to suffer/work more than they value the end result. the final product doesn't matter to these people. something really telling is that they get uncomfortable when someone spends a lot of time making something that sucks. it's because the two contradictory beliefs they hold are now in conflict: 1. the work put in is more important than the final product 2. the value of a work of art is entirely personal it's the opposite thing happening with AI art. the work is minimal but the final product is great. they get upset when someone uses references for illustration or traces because it's "cheating". (even tho norman rockwell himself traced and medieval art only got so realistic after the discovery of camera obscuras). somehow to these people the working and toiling is what matters. and they need to get over themselves.
@mugenbop
@mugenbop Жыл бұрын
I agree that it can be hard to discern the value of effort as sometimes suffering does not equate a happy life and art. But I imagine for people so used to it, it’s not very easy to just get over as the situation is extremely multi-layered
@Skeleman
@Skeleman Жыл бұрын
@@mugenbop oh for sure. i should delete that part of the comment since i'd never say that to someone. thanks.
@rogueobscura
@rogueobscura Жыл бұрын
I doubt anyone experienced in art gets upset over references, that's like being upset for...having functioning eyes. I also think it's weird to conflate suffering with work and that reads like you don't get why people are really upset. It's not a desire for some arbitrary suffering quota, it's the fact the person is barely actually making it themselves- the actions are identical to a commission, but to an algorithm instead of a person. You don't learn anything from that and actively miss crucial lessons if the work process starts, and ends with prompts over actions-especially concerning as these programs target non-artists. There's also the economic side of it as these programs make it very easy to scam, cut on hiring artists, and enable companies to lower wages, etc; these are obvious.
@tylerkrone5664
@tylerkrone5664 Жыл бұрын
In the end i think AI should be used as a toola dna that's cool other wise if it can do everything by itself, what need is there for a human in anything art becomes empty entertainment which is the definition of a drug. It's not about whether what's ethical if such content in produced in excessive amounts with no effort who knows what it will do to our brains maybe majority of us will have their imagination deteriorate cause there is no need since ai can do anything. And if it can do anything what if it realises that.Depending on how u use it Ai is a tool or the worlds most dangerous weapon in the end ironically it depend on humans for what they want and how much they know
@shanghaitatoo
@shanghaitatoo 5 ай бұрын
I completely disagree. The value of art is process, the process is what matters! In fact any successful artist in any industry will tell you, Art IS process. Just like what matters in life is the process, the now, not an imaginary future. The only way to have a good future is to live fully in the now, Just like to make a good piece of art is to love and enjoy the process, the many hours spent between starting and finishing. Seeing the result as more important than the process is exactly why many artists fail, gets frustrated, can’t make good work and risk taking short-cuts, why their work lack the heart and soul that captures people emotionally. Process is not suffering, no good artist ‘suffer’ for hours to make art, they enjoy hours and hours of work and end up with a good result, and after that they look forward to doing it all again because it’s energises, nurtures and bring absolute joy and positivity to life. I get into flow when I’m creating art, many artists do. It’s absolute calm and blissful, it’s what keep people making art even during the most challenging times. If someome suffer for hours it’s guaranteed the work will suffer too. I’m fact, I’ve seen many many artist give up not because they don’t have the skill, but because they don’t actually enjoying doing the art, or they focus too much on result they completely lose touch with the process. Most people sees the process as tedious don’t actually enjoy the act of creating, they really just enjoy the romantic idea of being called an artist, how cool, how fancy, they want everything a good result can bring : feeling good about themselves, recognition , outside validation ,attention , wow people, impress others, prove to the world they are amazing and better than everyone else … you name it. And they want all of that with minimal effort and minimal time spent possible - instant gratification! Beautiful art work that display heart and soul that will ACTUALLY wow people, shows amazing skills, being recognised, impresses people , can only come from hours and hours of enjoyable work and lots of love and attention poured into the creative process. And AI generated image don’t display this. It is not art, it’s generated images, cheap, disposable, empty, unsustainable in its very nature - It’s so easy to do and completely free, soon everybody and their dogs will be pumping them out in the hundreds and thousands in the race to the bottom, it’s completely worthless.
@nefariouswatcher
@nefariouswatcher Жыл бұрын
I feel a searing hatred for AI and want to see it all burn to the ground.
@funnyvalentine8324
@funnyvalentine8324 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video 👍 can you make video about the manga jojo bizarre adventure steel ball run ( part 7) ?
@mugenbop
@mugenbop Жыл бұрын
Haven't read Jojos at all yet but I do plan to make some videos about the series if I do really enjoy certain parts :)
@ivarxdp8387
@ivarxdp8387 Жыл бұрын
Nice video
@sondog5789
@sondog5789 Жыл бұрын
Not a huge fan of AI art but an impressive video as usual, keep up the good work
@mugenbop
@mugenbop Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@uvuvuwewenyetwe644
@uvuvuwewenyetwe644 Жыл бұрын
Artists need to learn AI, end of the discussion.
@raufsarwar
@raufsarwar 10 ай бұрын
I loved that intro ❤️😋😋😋
@sahuanitasahu7696
@sahuanitasahu7696 4 ай бұрын
Comeon i was i midle of making my mangas storyboards
@Sourabh-qf8wy
@Sourabh-qf8wy Ай бұрын
Bro are you really worried ?? That AI manga is a joke, it looks horrible, who in their right mind would read that trash !!
@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947
@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how many pages the author is not interested in working on he could facilitate with efficient AI, allowing the author to spend his effort on the main pages he wants to do. Since Hiroshi Hirata worked with digital manga before a bunch I see digital media not as an inferior form, but as the same physical media only with more help in the boring parts, Hiroya Oku with that horrible art of his that already looks like it was made by AI he would benefit even more from this technology, in short when AI has better and cooler databases for the artists, what is happening right now database that are provided by artists who earn from it I think after becoming democratic and less criminal i think there is no room to hate the AI ​​even more if you are an artist or writer that you provide the data to GPT Chat and your database.
@xhorror4880
@xhorror4880 Жыл бұрын
as a writer, this is really cool. finally I can do a manga.
@999__
@999__ Жыл бұрын
I think this type of stuff AI should be restricted or tracked on what is done by robot and what done by humans because it will end half of human jobs in the next decades. Do you see 3,5 Billion homless people ? It will be the case easily if the robot frenzy continue.
@ArucardPL
@ArucardPL Жыл бұрын
I feel it's ok to use AI as a help to speed up your process (I mean, when you think about it, even filling in the large black spots when inking in photoshop is some kind of simple AI) but feels like too many people use it now to basically do majority of the work for them (it's getting ridiculous to the point that many people just post straight-out-of-AI image and call it their own art). As a pop culture enthusiast I'm exciteed about people who do stuff in their own way (that's why I love manga like Gambling Apocalypse Kaiji, Trigger anime, artists like Humberto Ramos, Greg Capullo, Skottie Young and filmmakers like James Gunn or Quentin Tarantino). Comics/movies made largerly by AI simply make no sense to me because there's no uniqueness to that, no unique voice, just kind of most averaged, calculated result. There's a reason why most of AI art looks kinda like the same thing. And it feels like as the level of AI art improves, that feeling of sameness is getting more noticeable. Tell you the truth, the earlier version of AI art (like midjourney v3) looked more interesting to me than the current, nearly perfected version 5. So my two biggest worries with AI are 1) that it's gonna replace actual comic artists, writers, actors, musician in storytelling (and in many more places) and 2) that we're gonna have a flood of media of all sorts but none will feel unique and everything will be "kinda different but more the same old same old" (basically more stuff like the current state of Netflix tv shows and MCU movies/shows)
@jupuxfrudgaming7103
@jupuxfrudgaming7103 Жыл бұрын
Common mugen w
@mugenbop
@mugenbop Жыл бұрын
Yoo
@dogdog6635
@dogdog6635 6 ай бұрын
I have so much respect for the artists esp skilled drawing guys like Takehiko Inoue and if AI take all over their work in the future, i may confuse who I should praise and respect.
@thecrusader1673
@thecrusader1673 Жыл бұрын
Progress❤ The future is so exciting.
@mugenbop
@mugenbop Жыл бұрын
Are you a business man sir?
@yo_yo477
@yo_yo477 Жыл бұрын
i think what’s happening right now is similar to whats been going on with music for a while now. many (not all) classical musicians and jazz musicians have been against music that doesn’t have very advanced chords and view things on technicality and effort as more important than how good it sounds. similar thing happened when sampling first became mainstream. i think that ai art will become accepted very soon due to accessibility and the fact that it just looks really good.
@mugenbop
@mugenbop Жыл бұрын
It definitely seems to share some characteristics in the introduction of new technology, but what gives it an edge is instead of sampling and putting it into your song and basing your beat around it. You type into a chat box :3 didn’t know about that with musicians tho, interesting :)
@samankucher5117
@samankucher5117 Жыл бұрын
i don't like it . it is a slap to the face of any and every artist that the "Ai" was trained on taking the art of an artist without consent of the artist to make a digital clone of the artist is just evil .
@rynsart
@rynsart Жыл бұрын
Yeah its pretty scummy. It's demotivating for an artist like me and I'm always thinking ''Was the last 5 years of studying worth it?''
@samankucher5117
@samankucher5117 Жыл бұрын
@@rynsart it is a dark place to be in mentally.
@michaelb5665
@michaelb5665 Жыл бұрын
Im going to be honest... I just want to read a good story. I really don't care how it is made, as long as it looks decent and has a good story
@mugenbop
@mugenbop Жыл бұрын
Fair enough
@windybro3446
@windybro3446 Жыл бұрын
It looks bad
@mugenbop
@mugenbop Жыл бұрын
For now yeah
@proudhandsdrawing
@proudhandsdrawing Жыл бұрын
it would definitely take out the exclusivity of Japanese manga and anime creatorship and make it more international. excited to see what people from countries in Africa and arabia will come up with as stories.
@alvinsmith3894
@alvinsmith3894 11 ай бұрын
If they do the world will just laugh at them because everyone knows that muslims are NOT supposed to draw any kind of imagery. Then again people are hypocritical so I know some would try lol. Sadly, personally. I'm not interested in a culture that kills people for being gay.
@imnugget8085
@imnugget8085 Жыл бұрын
Im using it write a book in 40 mins 100 pages took me longer cause i didnt have a clue how to use the tools now i think i can do it in 40 mins with more then 100 pages of just words and a book cover but full manga no history of drawing or writing at all
@FP19487
@FP19487 Жыл бұрын
As a design engineer, I'm fully support AI on manga. Heck on pretty much anything really. I just can't believe it take this long to do it, with decades long of digital era. Wtf. All you need are basic models, artist/mangaka licensing art to be implemented on that models and voila, everybody can now create manga/comic/art. It was stupidly easy that I think the only reason company doesn't develop it is because peoples who is going to use the program/software/AI are poor as hell to even consider buying it. Everytime I look at complicated manga art, I pity the mangaka who spend hours of sleepless nights, starvation and exhaustion just to make it when AI can do it in minutes. The less time spend on dwg, the more time spend on better the story or just living. I also find the argument of how manually drawn is better because it's hard ergo meaningful is utterly ridiculous. Peoples who said that ought to walk to work, mall etc coz it is 'hard' 'meaningful'. Everytime peoples bring up AI pro & con, the ratio is staggering 10:1 or more.
@redgrave4492
@redgrave4492 Жыл бұрын
Why pity them? Mangaka can choose to implement any artstyle and level of detail they wish depending on what they're going for. Whatever they choose is a form of their expression. I do however agree that it shouldn't be the norm to risk great physical and mental deterioration for the sake of their dream. Though rather than pumping out work faster, additional time (bi-weekly or 1 and a half months) could help relieve stress. I wish more publishers and fans could get behind that.
@ineptznonz
@ineptznonz 6 ай бұрын
man this video was bad sorry to say. There was no clear point here it just rambled on and on and on without really saying anything meaningful. I think you don't know enough about art to comment on this topic
@williammclean6594
@williammclean6594 23 күн бұрын
he was clear and had a point. dont know what your talking about
@toututu2993
@toututu2993 Жыл бұрын
AI art is a huge insult to all creations not just arts. It cannot replace human because it lacks a lot of basic fundamentals. Stop promoting this ai art that does not create a real work only insulting it. It is just a fake cheap imitation of arts, the result is obviously horrible since it lacks knowing what it tries to draw or understand what it is and how it works. Real decent art came from a being that know what they are drawing and have a judgement and understanding of law of nature as well as knowing which is right and wrong. You guys only insulting everything creation by praising such terrible and the most insulting thing made for centuries ever and beyond
@lloydwilson2653
@lloydwilson2653 Жыл бұрын
This will suck if they do this something would be lost big time
@kranberryjones1449
@kranberryjones1449 Жыл бұрын
The digital transition since the mid 00s or 2010's has already ruined a good amount of anime and western cartoons too
@aullidos_games
@aullidos_games Жыл бұрын
Whats the point of the video? "Do this, but dont do that" "Use AI as a tool, but only to some extent" I see so much guilt to be able to have this tools at our disposal. And AI doesn´t steal artist, only imitates the style, that´s what we do when we develop our skills. So much hipocrisy
@mugenbop
@mugenbop Жыл бұрын
Well I am putting my opinion out there as part of the point of this video and generating a discusssion, if you feel my opinion is hypocritical that's fine you can think that even though I said I understand the use of people benefitting from AI. And for when AI make their own art depending on the coding they use on the backend they can create from analyzing others work or just create by taking pieces and mixing them together with a lack of subtlety thay they are 'lifted'.
@Userdoesnotexit
@Userdoesnotexit Жыл бұрын
bro those students in the comments are dumb. Ai will be huge as a tool for everyone.
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