Ainz and Albedo Buffs Incoming?! (Epic Seven x Overlord Collab)

[@caR_6]

Links to both polls (time sensitive so answer soon!): page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/10137845 page.onstove.com/epicseven/global/view/10137847

[@NidgeDFX]

E7 already has dark/light damage lore/mechanic in the game. So they can get rid of Ains extra punishment as its in the game already.

[@rpamungkas13]

The current Ainz is Pandora actor masquerading as Ainz.. no way Ainz is that weak..

[@pioupioukerker6450]

Gold comment

[@Zackhit]

I actually wouldn't mind if pandora actor got in instead of ainz. Imagine a character that can copy stuff... Oh wait that's rimuru

[@videosthatwhatever]

Ainz voice: the goal of all collab is buff

[@raze2012_]

4:20 As a non-PvP focused player (but I still play arena and keep up with the meta) and someone who just wants to make whacky builds, I agree with this. It's all about fun in the end, and I can see how people see Albedo as "functional" but not necessarily "fun". Shes better than Brieg in PvP, but Brieg is "fun" when he pops off, countering, triggering his S3 off turn to strip people, and pretecting the team with barriers. Meanwhile you never fully "see" albedo's protection. It just kinda exists there in the background. You'd have to be a math nerd to know when she saves a unit from a big hit. But if I'm thinking as a PvP game, you can't really focus too much on the lower end of the game. The newer players have completely different progression and roadblocks to conquer, and some units are great at that but will inevitably fall off later on. Green Bellona is a great example; She helps make abyss climbing and a lot of early PvE so smooth, but later pVe negates her main damage source and everyone in pvp starts to go fast and hit hard. Bellona can't do either, but I never regret investing in her as I may not have even gotten to endgame without her to worry about that stuff. Meanwhile, E7 is trying to sell itself as "eSports ready", which as a biased PvE gacha player think is the funniest thing ever. But to each their own. They can't keep powercreeping with limited units every few months if they ever want fresh players to get to a viable roster and gear level to compete. Imagine if Albedo is the next Arowell but some new player starting next week wanting to compete in 2025 is stunted by lacking her. That just makes this "eSports" feel P2W. So idk, I think E7 eventually needs to pick a lane. At the bare minimum it will need to solve its limited problem in a way Summoner's war had to as it waned from being the new hot game.

[@GoingGaks]

I took a break, but ended up seeing the colab and reddit and came back right away. I'm quite sad about how Ainz currently feels so I'm excited for a potential buff

[@Bossbiney]

Honestly, they just need to make Ainz guaranteed to land his death sentence in pvp and add a line to his s3 that in pve he does slightly reduced damage to elites. The increased damage to light is lore and im fine with it. Albedo needs to either be a tank or a bruiser not this in-between area.

[@NidgeDFX]

E7 already had light/dark damage lore in the combat system. So to me Removing it still has dark lore in it.

[@naiture9724]

I was definitely thinking about giving death sentence the magic nail treatment, where exclusively death sentence ignores ER; keep his strip and silence subject to the effectiveness check so it doesn't become yet another reason why ER sucks to build for, and he still has a chance to be stopped by immunity, offering some counterplay. Death sentence is also dispelled if Ainz dies, unlike every other player-applied effect in the game (even Lethe's Omen remains post-mortem), which makes it even more difficult to keep him alive if Light units can nuke him with little effort. I like the lore reasoning, so I don't think it should be completely removed, but at least a decrease to 10-15% could suffice.

[@LwyzUan]

They should make something like every time Ainz counters, increase count for ult debuff.

[@Eliotxshadowfrost21]

The only thing I’m not happy with about this poll is that they really should have all 3 units to vote and give feedback on. At the end of the day even if one or 2 are better off than the other/s they should be wanting feedback on the state of all 3 collab units and especially the 2 that need to be summoned for. If Ainz and Albedo are buffed that could lead to shalltear being in the back of the line when she was originally essentially the best off, which as someone who has all 3 I have to try and look at the perspective of someone who only had enough resources to summon for one and that’s a major feels bad if they buff albedo to be a better unit that someone may then after the buff have wanted her and chosen her had she already been like that on release.

[@kerneljoseph5094]

I want Ainz S1 to he uncounterable

[@permeus2nd]

So personally I think Ainz’s problem is that death sentence skill yes it can one shot most other units but him getting to the 12 turns is almost impossible as he will just be forced down, one buff I can think of is having it stick after he dies that way his is at least doing something also it needs extinction. I don’t actually know much about the show as I’ve never gotten around to watching it but so meny people were hyped for this guy even starting E7 just for him which I see as kinda nuts and everyone I hear says he is weak compared to his show now I know they can’t make him as strong as he is in the show for balance reasons but he dose seem a bit weak compared to other colabs.

[@adrianchai6761]

Ainz as the main character of the Collab should have more consistency in his strength levels. If the free character given wasn't the main character then people may not be as unhappy about it.

[@grinningcheshire3358]

Being strong, yes... But I'm very concerned about Albedo getting buffed, because even just a bit too much as she will be oppressive. People sleep on her mitigation which is the highest crit mitigation in the game. Strong, yes. But making collab units that might be broken makes it so that future players are just at a huge disadvantage, especially if the collab doesn't come back in a reasonable amount of time (or at all.)

[@kinggenejohnson]

She’s only reliable anti-cleave if you max her artifact.

[@DrROBschiz]

I have no Idea what people are complaining about with Albedo. She is legit solid for her role. Ainz on the other hand.... really doesn't have any place to do work in PvE or PvP.

[@minecraftliker3]

I personally think we are sending incredibly mixed messages on what we want as a community balance wise with the constant want for op/broken characters to get nerfs and then when a solid/balanced character comes its buff this buff that... If its truly balance we want then we need to be ok with units like albedo and show sg that while asking for the nerfs still.

[@krowes]

They should let Aniz show a false health bar in PvP for the opponent

[@wetpaksyagbadudles2950]

Give albedo s2 stun capability. That would be nice

[@kaiila925]

I dont know why pple ask for no more karina like when they already can abuse her cuz they have her, i would like a broken unit to fight against a broken unit i dont and might never have.

[@Centurion321O]

Yes buff them! I want to use those units in pvp more :P

[@princesharming8693]

Albedo need more good dubuffs in her passive or s1

[@KKarama1]

they need to rework ainz s3 instead of having it a huge nuke

[@skyblue-fp5ul]

push the algorithem

[@burningpipe2627]

Weird how shalltear didnt get a poll, considering she is worse than albedo.

[@kamisama20]

JUTISCE FOR AINZ!!!

[@DeRizzlo]

whr shalltear buff😢

[@fifigigi6713]

The fact that SHALLTEAR is worse then Jenua, a regular STORY SUMMON unit and now SHE IS NOT EVEN IN THE BUFF POLL shows how out of touch SG is w/ BALANCE.

[@RIPx86]

They always buff colab or limited units that are not received well

[@ian7235]

too bad they didnt add option for "Useless as fk"

[@EpochWin]

If they just make death sentence ignore ER and get rid of the 30% light vulnerability (perhaps keep 1% just for the nod to the lore), I think Ainz is more or less fine. Definitely don't change the soulburn to ignore ER, I want to keep using him to one-shot nightmare raid queen with Challenger Dominiel. Albedo however, while reasonably balanced, I think should have her power shifted to be more offensive. Albedo can feel meh only because a lot of her power is tied up in her s2 passive, which isn't really visible, and her damage numbers are rightly low to compensate. Nerfing her crit damage mitigation and increasing her damage numbers would potentially help her feel more impactful while not overly increasing her general power level.

[@raynarksatriawibowo6688]

At least make them usable, ainz if his s3 resisted & albedo full kit are useless

[@shutaura9784]

As new player my skystones immasurable and my account ruined

[@JLJ1234]

For a collaboration like OL this has been a disappointment. I started playing for these characters, and they so far feel sort of mid. Nothing wrong with making them better at the end of the day that’s what gacha games do to entice us to waste money.

[@juakored]

I think it's too little too late. What's the purpose of a Collab? To attract new players and fans from the show + get people to spend on them. Right? What happens if they're dogshit at release? New players will just fuck off. Right? So if they're seeing players complain about them everywhere, specially in their in-game system... Why the fuck are they second guessing themselves? I think it's pretty obvious they objectively need a buff. So what the fuck are they waiting for? I honestly don't get SG... They seem to always make the wrong choice. Like instead of giving us the freedom to just skip every farm like they're slowly implementing in hunts... What's the point of delaying the inevitable? I'll never understand this developer...

[@gaius2451]

Their both just super boring to use, not really excited to use them

[@raze2012_]

Ainz is really funny to use. Death sentence is OP and nothing can survive it if it pops and he is basically powercrept counter Dizzy while that's happening (they share the same statline, after all). His issue is that he's a dark pokemon in a light pokemon meta. He'd feel better if everyone wasn't spamming adin/candy/Lermia even before trying to counter Ainz.

[@gaius2451]

@raze2012_ U use him with Briar witch? I just kinda ignore him and res with my destina or ravi, could see it being pretty good with Briar though

[@kingbyouchoob2488]

The collab characters are dog water