AIOs with Screens - Corsair vs Thermaltake Tested

[@KitGuruTech]

Would you buy an AIO with a small screen? or do you just not see the point? Let us know... TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Start 00:15 Introduction 01:17 Corsair H150i Elite LCD 360mm 03:41 Corsair Installation 04:02 Thermaltake Toughliquid Ultra 360 360mm 07:02 A quick comparison 07:24 Thermaltake warranty - disappointing 07:53 Thermaltake Installation 09:39 Testing setup and configuration 10:58 Test results 13:13 Results from coolers locked at 40dBa 13:44 PBO Temps and clocks 14:39 Motherboard VRM Temps 15:17 Lukes closing thoughts

[@wankerka]

BUddy have guys reviewed the Asus Ryujiz 2 360? Have you got any problems with the temperature readings? I have one as well but the temps are way off. Run Cinebench with Cpuid the temps between the cpuid and Ryujin temp display are not match about 10c difference.

[@tradcatpat2385]

Very useful review. Many thanks, Luke! I find the AIO's LCD displaying processor details a great idea and am looking forward to trying one of these (MSI S360 is another that comes to mind). A request/suggestion for a future article: It's been about on the internet that many AIO's have issues to varying degrees with mounting pressure and contact on the LGA1700 boards, with a resultant effect on cooling performance. It'd be fascinating if KitGuru looked into that issue. Love and appreciate the work you all do, many thanks and keep it up!

[@KitGuruTech]

Thanks for the feedback and kind words!

[@V1CT1MIZED]

I bought the MSI S360 and while expensive it is amazing. Great screen and cooling is best you'll get before getting a custom loop. The VRM cooling fan in the block is great too

[@River_Miles]

I like the idea of a screen on a pump block but not if said AIO uses proprietary connections requiring one to buy into one particular ecosystem. I was all in with Corsair until early this year with constant iCue problems from a modern late-2018 PC build since then. Their warranty is not worth my frustration with their software, which may have improved since then. Lots of great hardware out there from all manufacturers but I've learned all their software is horrendous, looking at you too ASUS!

[@LikelyLagging]

Why has no one reviewed the EKWB vision aio

[@mikep9418]

I only have a 5700g so I don't need an aio. I do, however, have a small 5" lcd screen fitted in the corner of my case which I use to display cpu, gpu temps etc. Looks good and I love being able to see such info at a glance.

[@KitGuruTech]

That sounds like a good solution. I personally quite like having some basic info at a glance too. Especially if it's info that Afterburner or the likes cannot overlay. Luke

[@donkeysunited]

I have a custom Afterburner display on my Logitech G13 and find it very useful. I can see GPU temp, fan speed and RAM usage plus system fan speed, temp, CPU and RAM usage plus FPS all in one screen. When that eventually fails and I'm forced to buy a lesser gameboard, I'll probably look at adding a small screen in the PC, possibly in the PSU cutout in the shroud. I think JayzTwoCents has a good video on it.

[@mikep9418]

@@donkeysunited It was after watching the Jay video that I installed mine. Cost me just over £30 for the screen on E-bay. Great for displaying fan speeds, temps, the lot.

[@donimuscooks7900]

Are these compatible with the Ex magnetic fans

[@salimsadmansami]

Hey, so the thermaltake one is less effective than this cosair. Also I wanna know that Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE Capellix which has UpTo 2400 rpm would be much better that thermaltake as the thermaltake couldn't complete with this 2100rpm cosair also being 2500.

[@branman4959]

Is the images or gif limited or completely customizable

[@scotttait2197]

Did corsair change the mounting system fir elite cappelix? Or is it only the LCD version... mine mounts to the o/g an4 brackets via the annoying lug and knurled nut!

[@CriPPleR_HD]

Really wish reviewers included Pump Noise in there analysis. Anyone know which AIO has the least audible pump noise in this list? Currently own the EK 360 Elite AIO and I am thinking of returning it due to pump noise.

[@javierpena6077]

I was going to say the same. The Corsair pump is annoying. I did get a ek-aio with a quiet pump but it took 3 tries on Amazon.

[@CriPPleR_HD]

@@javierpena6077 glad you got a quiet EK pump! I thought they were all loud. I have 2 days left on my return window so I went ahead and initiated a refund. Ordered the Asus Ryujin 2 360 but Amazon canceled the order due to lack of inventory. Went with the Phanteks Glacier 360 since it was in stock and has good reviews. Can’t believe not a single review compares pump noise. Especially if they all are close in performance, the quietest pump could be the deciding factor. Radiator fans can easily be replaced, but that pump cannot. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@javierpena6077]

@@CriPPleR_HD if you ordered on Amazon I would try an exchange. Getting a quiet EK aio is a gamble but if you get it, they are awesome. No special RGB software is great too

[@CriPPleR_HD]

@@javierpena6077 thanks for the info! EK is on its way back to Newegg as of this morning(Only had 2 days left to return it). Just received the Phanteks Glacier One 360 MPH. Going to install it tonight. Also ordered the Asus Ryujin 2 360 which will be here Thursday. Whatever pump is the quietest will stay. If both pumps are nosier than the EK, I will give the EK another shot since it cooled my i9-12900K like a beast! Unfortunately it sounded like a beast as well. 😜

[@salehabdulla9177]

Hi What's best cpu cooler for 12900k?

[@Koretex_]

Can the pump on the Corsair H150i Elite LCD be set lower then the 2200-2300rpm on quiet mode now?

[@V1CT1MIZED]

I bought the MSI S360 and I'm in love with the LCD

[@wiktor2995]

What CPU are you using?

[@QuentinStephens]

Useful, thank you. You asked about RGB vs cooler display. In my use case RGB wouldn't be particularly useful as my PC is ordinarily in a cupboard and at a distance from my desk, but if I needed to I could inspect the cooler metrics directly thanks to the cooler display. Keep up the good work.

[@fracturedlife1393]

On Pump Temp reading is sweet. RGB I could care less. An LFII with one of those screens for CPU temp would be the ticket.

[@JoeySchmidt74]

I'd love a PC like that. Saving up now to replace my 2010 i5 750 system. It still works, but video rendering and lack of AVX instruction set are holding me back.

[@AexoeroV]

What AIO can keep a i9 13900K CPU cool without throttling in heavey tests?

[@Jcrash1]

Ok so I installed this cooler on a stock 10900k and I was seeing in gaming after a hour or two around 80-82c. I repasted it a day later because I thought I had mis mounted the cooler. No difference. Coolant temp definitely goes up Though, almost 55c in some instances so heat is definitely being absorbed. It also doesn’t help that I have a 3090 strix blasting it’s heat out the radiator and other exhaust fans. Under cinebench r20, and intel XTU stress tests, I see around 85c stock. If I use the “intel auto oc” it goes to 5ghz, and that bumps up temps to 95-97c under stress tests. I am running a MAXIMUS XII EXTREME and I am extremely inexperienced with overclocking and undervolting. I’ve tried following guides but all I get are blue screens even with modest undervolting attempts in bios. Does this seem normal for temps? Voltages can go up to 1.37 stock, using hwinfo64 to monitor. Should i be concerned? Does anyone have advice to undervolt for a newbie?

[@jonsnow2555]

​@Hasan's Diary read 1st sentence

[@poorNOOB]

I have the Aorus Waterforce X360. I love its ability to display MP4 videos on that display. But there's this problem I've been experiencing that is kinda funny, it worked fine with MSI motherboard (Z370 Godlike)and didn't even required the monitoring software to run in the background for temp info, then i changed my motherboard to Aorus Z390 Master and its temp info just tend to freeze if monitoring software isn't running even after everything reinstalled... weird.

[@christianl2024]

gonna take the thermaltake because i planned to build a pc that has some lighting but is not causing my eyes to bleed

[@potvinsuks8730]

There are so many of these coolers in this ('Elite Catergory') nowadays. Corsair Elite LCD, Thermaltake Tough liquid Ultra, AORUS Waterforce, EVGA CLC-X, MSI CORELIQUID, NZXT Z Series, EK-Nucleus AIO CR Vision D-RGB (Not out yet but highly anticipated!) and finally, the ASUS Ryujin II. (New ASUS Ryuo Series just came out but think its not as premium as Ryujin). So I have a brand new i-Cue H150i Elite Capelix with the Elite Upgrade Kit sitting in my room for my new build but I am having second thoughts and thinking to go with the Ryujin instead.. I am a procrastinator of the worst kind! My main reasoning is that I feel the Ryujin just looks like it fits better in the board (ASUS ROG STRIX z690 Gaming A) especially, since they are both ASUS maybe. I also am quite drawn to the idea of having a VRM Fan and I know out of the bunch I mentioned, the CLC-X, Tough Liquid, CORELIQUID and the Ryujin have the VRM Fan. I also, would be looking to wrap the Ryujin in white hoses and possibly either paint or Plasti Dip it white since it seems the Corsair is the only product that has a white option (smh). However, what I REALLY would like to find out is just what kind of a difference there is between this Elite kit in comparison the the Ryujin when it comes to the Software Features? From afar, I get a hunch that the Elite is more elaborate but not sure as there's limited info. Has anybody used the two?

[@tminusoftexas3224]

Thank you for this video

[@dieseldrax]

My bigger complaint is AIOs without a built-in fan controller that operates based on coolant temperature. It's absolutely ridiculous to have the rad fans controlled by the motherboard based on CPU temp, which is not going to match coolant temp. For that reason alone I would never recommend an AIO like the Thermaltake in this review.

[@Jules_Diplopia]

Shame that there isn't an option to have the screen separately, then you could add it to any cooling system

[@KitGuruTech]

I wouldn't be surprised if that were offered in the future!

[@nukedathlonman]

LCD screen with out RGB - depends. Is LCD functionality available to Linux users? If no (most likely), then nope I am not interested in having an LCD display on my AIO (with or with out RGB).

[@GainingDespair]

iCue caused my PC to BSOD after updating due to their "feature" of breaking headset mics when your not on the latest version.

[@EliasDaoud]

I have MSI 360R CPU water cooler. it is really bad quality. - Good cooling performance or efficiency, but The pump stop working after 2 or 3 weeks of idle computer (if you don't turn it on) You need to clean it every 3 months or maximum 6 months. I will buy Termaltake

[@kylestewart4444]

I appreciate RGB lighting in small doses. I'd say the vast majority of people grossly overdo it but RGB lights, if tastefully utilized, can look really great. Basically, I just really dislike RGB fans. Some models which just have a single lit ring around the fan can look good sometimes but fully lit impellers just look like crap to me. In my own builds, I typically use the lighting on my graphics card, CPU block/AIO pump, RAM and motherboard, albeit usually with brightness reduced, ideally through a tinted glass panel. I want to see the lighting but I don't want it to light up a dark room. But I've never once bought or used an RGB fan. I always go with fully blacked out Noctua or be quiet! fans. As far as I'm concerned, I don't want to look at my computer and see a bunch of fans. It looks cooler to me if the fans are virtually hidden in plain sight by blending in with the rest of the case. As for LCD displays on AIO pumps, I'm all for it. It's nice to have CPU and GPU temps easily visible at a glance without having to run an on-screen display for hardware stats.

[@DrTopLiftDPT]

maybe you tape that cpu bracket on the back for few seconds wow :O

[@sentraselify]

No msi?

[@kevinhamlett1400]

Use tape to hold the back plate up.

[@johngamble5270]

4:48 *Raises hand* I'm never going to buy RGB fans. But I can see the usefulness of having temperature displayed on the AIO display.

[@Paul-if1jq]

I still like my artic freezer 2, something simplistic and raw that I like

[@agrifolia504]

Personally not a fan of rgb everywhere, i enjoy rgb but I like it to be a bit more subtle than the established norm these days. Im a big fan of having the LCD with no other RGB, if I wanted to I could install my own RGB fans

[@chairs-dimension]

Screens in AIOs are the classic scope creep from manufacturers to stack on a bit (a lot) more profit margin. Is a little screen really worth £100? Thermaltake are even now offering a 360 AIO with a memory cooling unit as part of the loop for £380 (that's £120 more even than the AIO in this video), what a joke.

[@KitGuruTech]

There definitely seems to be a hefty premium charged for the screens. No doubt, they add complexity and software requirements. But the price increase is pretty steep in my opinion. Luke

[@dragon501000]

"Is a little screen really worth £100?" Me: monkaS

[@tehehe5929]

Screen and no rgb is perfect. Screen is actually useful and can look tasteful and rgb is just useless bling. Ideal for mature understated builds in black Fractal North for example.

[@Buffinator1988]

I hate unnecessary software packages that are perma-run in the background to run these kind of features, especially when the info they provide (like on these pump screens) is easily accessible within Windows anyway. I'll go as far as motherboard RGB software, I'd rather just attach a cable from the block the mb and be done with it. Icue, CAM, synapse etc... All can sod off. Fractals original Celsius with the radiator mounted fan hub and hidden cabling (within the tube sleeve) is perfect to me. Absolutely no software, no cable mess, it just works. AIO technology has peaked and units from established manufacturers tend to last for year's these days... This feature creep is designed to keep prices high and to generate more product cycles. I'd rather they spent the R&D money on improving heat transfer/disappation.

[@KitGuruTech]

Have to agree on the original Celsius - i still run one in my own PC and it is terrific. Still going strong after 4 years.

[@donkeysunited]

My cynical mind thinks that if it was possible for AIOs to fail after 1-2 years without risking water damage to the PC, they'd have designed that in by now to get more sales. And probably have reworded the warranty to mean it's not covered. The LCD screen might be their attempt to do that. I fully believe that Razer's success is built on that model.

[@qT_p13]

I don't care for rgb, but at the cost I also think Thermaltake should at least offer it, and the warranty is also a disappointment.

[@sabishiihito]

And neither is an Asetek rebrand!

[@stevehiggins9351]

Well done Luke for saying "gif" correctly... we won this war back in the late 80s / early 90s and we'll win it again!

[@Nagleria]

GIF>Graphics Interchange Format JIF>Jraphics Interchange Format

[@jamieseymour8437]

Are you a fellow Welshman??

[@ford1547]

More stuff we can't get !

[@timtoomuch]

That corsair aio no way is 250lbs you must be strong to lift it with 1 hand🤣😅I have the corsair h150i elite lcd and with 12900k oc to 5.2 p cores 4.1 E cores @1.29v temps stay 70s°c in a corsair 5000d airflow case

[@robe.1084]

He was talking about cost 💲 pounds is the unit of currency. 😅

[@timtoomuch]

@@robe.1084 I know bro I was being funny 😁thanks though

[@robe.1084]

@@timtoomuch lol my fault bro- you never know with KZbin comments. Cheers 🍻

[@timtoomuch]

@@robe.1084 that's true 👍

[@kevinhamlett1400]

Gpu sag is killing me.

[@TheSnake0444]

should have included the nzxt z73 in the benchmrk

[@Warhorse469]

Comparing Thermaltake to Corsair is like putting are Ford laser against are Koenigsegg Agera RS1 in other words you just don't, thermaltake is for people that wanted to burn their house down for insurance claims.🤔🤣

[@davidv.8765]

NZXT...

[@Oldblues4]

More unnecessary stuff to bloat hardware prices and seem innovative at the same time.

[@TMartn3]

I have a h150i and man it’s garbage. Worked 3 hours and nothing. Got a new one same thing. Then threw a nzxt and fixed. Man what trash

[@mongoosemcmongoose2786]

iCue is dogshit. Commander core/all the wires are a mess. Every corsair aio I’ve owned crapped the bed.

[@M0NKFortnite]

This guy has been negative since the beginning of the video about Thermaltake! LOLLL!!!!!

[@lolowfi]

Man, Thermaltake really has no shame. Those NF-A12 rip-off fans are quite something. They even copied that golden screw in the middle.

[@River_Miles]

Nidec Gentle Typhoon has entered the chat. The NF-A12 could be considered a rip-off of that.

[@lolowfi]

@@River_Miles Interesting, I didn't know that one. You're right, they do look very similar and are older than the A12. But even so, I'm certain these fans look like they do because of Noctua's popularity. Just like their Tough-RAM or whatever looks like Trident Z.

[@wallywally7767]

RGB = environmental destruction

[@M0NKFortnite]

THIS GUY LIKES THE LGBT FANS SO MUCH!!!! LOLLLLL

[@mohammadzillurrahman1413]

the display is a meaningless. why dont they stop this and try to improve the cooling ability. money should be going where batter cooling is not this useless display. which we never see after the 2nd day. plz dont promote these things. the cooler should be reviewed based on the cooling ability only.

[@ryanmalin]

Pretty lame tbh

[@Mihke]

Thermaltake is junk fulstop

[@mongoosemcmongoose2786]

So is corsair

[@WantBadtime]

@@mongoosemcmongoose2786 then what brand should I go for?

[@mongoosemcmongoose2786]

@@WantBadtime the nzxt one is pretty solid. the fans are a bit loud, swap them to some quiet noctua chromax and it's pretty solid. again this is if you're dead set on an aio with a screen.