Air Canada Boeing 737 MAX 8 (B38M) FERRY FLIGHTS at Montreal Trudeau (YUL/ CYUL)

[@spongebubatz]

Pilots be like: _Ah, ha, ha, ha, stayin' alive, stayin' alive_ 🎶

[@dodovomitory3496]

WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF

[@naturallyherb]

There's an animal shelter right beside the plane spotting park, that's why. Pretty cool to hear that.

[@KingofDoubleBogey]

They engines sound nice. By the way, the AOA anomaly and MCAS issues are getting close to be sorted out. I’d be shocked if they aren’t flying passengers by the beginning of the summer, if not sooner. 14,000 hours of flying in 737MAX at American Airlines in U.S. prior to the 2 incidents were uneventful for the MCAS install. If the pilots have confidence in this, and they do, I wouldn’t hesitate to fly on the MAX. What’s important is a consensus world wide that the MAX is ready...not just the North American Countries where training and safety is priority one.

[@harkmi3]

Las Vegas Valley Accountability Watch the issue is most passengers have zero confidence in this plane. It will be a tough sell by most airlines to convince people to get back on this plane. If airlines don’t offer choices to their passengers to fly on alternative planes, those passengers will find alternative airlines to fly.

[@KingofDoubleBogey]

harkmi3 Agree, I know one U.S. airline is going to try to make the passengers comfortable by offering possibly different aircraft even though they might have to fly non direct to final destination while the MAX would be a direct flight to final destination. As I said above it’ll be ( should be a ) a world wide consensus on flight operation for the MAX being safe. I have full confidence this will work out in the next 6 months. MCAS didn’t have any effect on flight operation on 99.9 % of American Airlines MAX flights, flight crew will or should brief passengers if their on the MAX to comfort them. They are working hard to bring back customer loyalty. Their retraining will be top notch. Like I said above 1 anomaly in 14,000 hours prior to the 2 previous accidents. That one ‘minor’ anomaly was actually cause by minor wake turbulence but brought under control. I wish I could link the 20 minute video on what AA is doing to calm the passengers and the rest of the flight crew and their own families but it’s proprietary right now and I was impressed. Rest assured if the pilots think it’s safe, and they do, think things will work out fine. I know there’s 1000’s of hours of simulator with different scenarios with non revenue flying going on right now with every test imaginable and different situations going on daily. It’s a beautiful aircraft and U.S. pilots are the best train in the world Regards and Happy New Year ✈️ EDIT: personally a name change of the MAX shouldn’t be out of the question, at least imo and take the stigma away.

[@CreightonRabs]

I flew on a Southwest MAX 8 from Dallas to Nashville on my way back to Pittsburgh in August 2018. I've always loved flying the 737, especially on Southwest, and I'm personally optimistic that we'll see the MAX 8 return to revenue service at some point in 2020.

[@1chish]

Nice idea but i would argue that safety was very much NOT the No 1 priority at Boeing or it would not have fitted a critical piece of software like MCAS a) without telling anyone, b) not issuing simulator software and c) just kidding pilots and airlines it was 'just another 737'. Boeing put profits and shareholders ahead of safety. And if you think the FAA or any other regulator will authorise this death trap any time early this year you are dreaming. The sound airlines are hearing in departure lounges is "If its THAT Boeing I ain't going"

[@marcocastro7348]

@@1chish You're saying Boieng sold a plane that they knew was going to crash, good deal, I'm going to set up a company and work like this, I'm going to become a millionaire, that's for sure.

[@JelmersAviation]

Fantastic video man! Great catch!

[@b747guy9]

I'm going to try and not get involved with this. The airplane had 2 terrible accidents but it was also flown for thousands of hours with other airlines without incident so the plane is far from a death trap! It WILL be fixed and it WILL fly again. It actually has a better safety record than the Boeing 727 had when it first came out and I am a former 727 captain and it was and is a great plane., so ease up folks. The airplane will survive and so with Boeing. I just hope they, Boeing, has learned it's lesson.

[@MarkBrandonAviation]

Hello! I do agree that the aircraft is not a death trap but the fact brand new aircraft had 2 deadly accidents that were nearly identical for me does justify a grounding, more so considering how boeing tried to cover up the aircraft issues and they tried to take the fast lane on aircraft development (ie less pilot training). Although yes the 727 did have a lot of problems, I don’t believe we should use that as a bench mark of what is safe or not considering it’s age - a lot has changed in the industry making it one of the safest industries in the world.

[@b747guy9]

@@MarkBrandonAviation We don't disagree. Boeing screwed the pooch on this, no doubt, and the plane needs to be fixed. I was answering another post that was totally out of line with reality concerning this airplane. I would fly it in a second and I am NOT suicidal!

[@OOpSjm]

Incorrect. There were other incidents including an AA flight out of Dallas that became part of a whistle blower case.

[@miketel01]

B747guy it’s not just boeing who screwed the pooch. The airlines need to take much of the responsibility as well for the need and lack of training. In the end The plane deserves a separate flight type certificate and this a separate training program. It’s a great plane but we need humans to operate it correctly and understand how the systems are working.

[@b747guy9]

@@miketel01 You are 100% correct but that is why I didn't want to get involved. People who don't know anything about aviation or airplanes have no trouble shooting their mouths off abut things they know nothing about and it infuriates me. But getting involved on here is not always a good thing. You should have seen the arguments I got into about chemtrails! Now that was fun!!

[@manondumouchel5298]

Oh!..The dogs is coming Back ..he likes to much your video Sir.. 737 MAX IS WONDERFUL , NICE COLOUR AND SOUND IS SOFT, LOVE THIS BOEING, THANK YOU SIR, Enjoy your video

[@eddieshanahan4495]

ok guys and girls can we lay off the barking dogs issue it just shows the videos are real time and not coverd up by fake music like most other videos on you tube are the lad takes a lot of time to bring us some brilliant videos keep up the good work mark thank you

[@louiskelly1671]

Woof

[@eddieshanahan4495]

@@louiskelly1671 lol

[@nightflyer3242]

Those CFM-Leap's sound like mini-GE-90's.

[@ACPilot]

Nora Lincoln - The engines are GE built in cooperation with Snecma in France.

[@balta1769]

Didn’t know 737 max engines sounded like dogs

[@gregorysweeting2512]

Great videos keep it up.👍👍

[@davidgiles5030]

I flew on one from London Gatwick to Halifax and then onto Ottawa. Great flights. I still prefer 4 engines over water,but there's not many of those around anymore.

[@flash170656]

Isn't this bad karma for Boeing after it's attack on Bombardier's C Series?

[@maryrafuse2297]

Boeing is getting what they deserve. Thanks to greed the C Series will always have more respect.

[@cancelanime1507]

Mary Rafuse Max and c series are completely different aircraft for different markets

[@RLTtizME]

@@maryrafuse2297 You are little passive aggressive and frankly...a bit cranky. Chill out honey.

[@gerardacronin3095]

Richard L. T. Ha ha, YOU are the social media troll!

[@GH-oi2jf]

michel laramee - Only if you are superstitious.

[@12345fowler]

Would be curious to know how the pilots briefing went. SOmething like : " If needed we both grasp the wheel with one hand and pull hard together while at the same time moving the manual trim nose-up together wih the other hand. All the while I will extend the flaps with my lips and you try to engage the a/p with yours." Seems a handful to fly Boeings these days.

[@wilburfinnigan2142]

12345fowler The simple task is just to turn the MCAS OFF and for the pilot to pay attention and fly the damn plane !!!!

[@ACPilot]

Boeing isn’t ceasing production, they are pausing production until it has been cleared to fly passengers again, there is a difference.

[@miketel01]

I have flown it a few times, including in first class. It’s a wonderful aircraft. I think it should have its own type certificate and or there should be plenty of practice and training to improve safety. The MCAS system wouldn’t be required or even thought of if there was more education surrounding the Changes and envelope characteristics of this aircraft.

[@bloodguard41]

The differences in handling are minor. Test flights have confirmed this.

[@1chish]

@@bloodguard41 So minor they needed a major piece of software that takes over and denies a pilot full control and even switches back in when 'switched out'? Sorry but test pilots reported a fault in testing as the new location of the engines caused a major nose up condition that created a near AoA stall situation. 'Minor' handling differences do not kill people.

[@bloodguard41]

@@1chish What I've read regarding flight testing states that the plane itself flies fine. MCAS was needed only to meet same type certification requirements.

[@1chish]

@ milketel01 You gloss over the main factors that caused this aircraft to crash: * Airbus had beaten Boeing with the new A320neo that DID fly just the same as other A320 (and even A330) aircrfat * Rather than design a new aircraft to fit bigger engines Boeing chose to modify a 50 year old low level airframe. This of course avoided losing $ Bns in bonuses. * This repositioning or large engines caused dangerous flying characteristics (AoA stall) and so Boeing chose to create MCAS rather than design anew airframe (or design new undercarriages). * To counter the Airbus sales threat Boeing then lied to customers, pilots and passengers by failing to tell anyone MCAS was even fitted, they issued NO simulator software and kidded everyone it was 'the same as other 737s' when it was NOT and suggested an hour on an iPad. * Even after the first crash Boeing failed to own up but were caught out a few months later when more passengers paid for Boeing's greed with their lives. Boeing were hoist on their own petard of sales lies because they had sold thousands on the basis it was the same as other 737s. But then in test flights it found out it wasn't. So they had to hide the problems with MCAS because they couldn't embark on expensive (to customers) training and updating flight manuals as this would need more FAA certification (and cost) and admit it was NOT like other 737s...... The rest is history.

[@1chish]

@@bloodguard41 If it flew OK why would it need new type classification and therefore need MCAS to maintain the original classification? It was sold as being 'just like all the other 737s' but evidently it wasn't or Boeing wouldn't have needed MCAS let alone not tell anyone. They compounded the error by having MCAS only use ONE of the two AoA sensors at a time (to avoid new type classification) and then have it change from one to the other after each flight again without telling maintainers. So if one fails they would be testing the OTHER one.

[@patjordan9606]

Will they be scrapped even if they are brand new?

[@erickscholl842]

They are going to AZ for better weather conditions

[@lush429]

they r flying... they will not be scrapped... pilots are up front... the fix will come...

[@737MaxPilot]

The fix is done, yet to be approved. The bigger hurdle will be the determination of required training. The airplane is safe, and will be made even safer with the software changes. Anyone read the NTSB’s recent remarks on the Amazon Air crash yet? Never underestimate the value of talented, experienced & properly trained professional pilots up front. Any two of those traits will usually overcome most scenarios.

[@lush429]

@@737MaxPilot Air Canada has been flying theirs around YUL..

[@wilburfinnigan2142]

@@lush429 Boeing has flown everyone of the 500+ Max's built since the groundings !!! Production test flights and flights to Moses Lake for storage !!! Check out flightradar24 !!!!

[@ericbeaulieu4663]

there were some at YRQ, I don't know if they are still there

[@KB7789]

ARE They Just Testing the Max's and Taking Them For a Test Flight???? I Thought That They Were Grounded????

[@philliphargreaves1602]

KB7789 ferry flight for storage arrangements (FAA have approved these flights) but can not fly them for any other reason

[@iVince905]

It’s to keep AC 737 Pilots current. You need to do a certain amount of approaches and landings to keep a rating.

[@Dfpijgyt564s65sgt]

balsumfractus wrong, just read the description

[@Cactus732]

iVince905 you can do those in a simulator though, so there’d be no need to fly the aircraft. As mentioned in one of the other comments, these are one-off ferry flights to storage.

[@Cactus732]

J Boogs unless the Canadian rules are different from the FAA, landing currency can be done in the simulator. I’m an AA Captain, we do landings in the simulator all the time, there’s no requirement to land the pane.

[@mapp4751]

nice to see them flying! they will be back and better than ever but it will take time to regain the public's trust! this is a seminal moment for the entire airline industry a reminder that you cannot cut corners or put money ahead of flight safety! the 2 accidents need not have happened!

[@2flyabove]

Better than ever? Like putting a bandaid on a pile of crap?!

[@paulfernando1887]

B737 MAX = Flying coffin. These aircraft should be scrapped

[@eddieshanahan4495]

so what happens to all the 800 max aircraft now then mark ?

[@ACPilot]

eddie shanahan - They will most likely get a computer upgrade, as well as new software.

[@edwood7741]

Who let the dogs out?

[@chrisvickers1262]

Look at weather. And green grass. And leaves. This is not current video. Many of these planes are in: Windsor and Trois Riviers.

[@chrisvickers1262]

Until the end of the video, which appears to be more current....

[@MarkBrandonAviation]

If you read the description you’d know the video was filmed between Aug - Dec

[@chrisvickers1262]

Mark Brandon I just watched the video, so thanks and apologies for the early reply. Interesting that they have moved the planes...I guess air canada wants them out of the winter.

[@sebastianfloyd372]

@@MarkBrandonAviation 737 MAXs are the worst planes ever and they should be retired scrapped and never fly again. I am never going to fly on them

[@bookeratkins8134]

Those dogs though......

[@kapiljbp9129]

What if it starts nose dive mcas comes into play trim settings

[@miketel01]

Ummmm.... the pilots should do their job and fly the plane manually in that instance and not stupid like the dead flight crews

[@testpirate2570]

miketel01 oooffff 😬

[@wilburfinnigan2142]

kapil jbp NOT if they just shut the MCAS off !!!! No Problem !!!!

[@wilburfinnigan2142]

@@miketel01 B I N G O !!!!!!!!!!!

[@Hakltz]

It is beautiful!!!

[@Andy1076]

Didn't know planes ran on barkng fuel 😳

[@LarmeMo]

is this a kind of hidden test flights ? i'm wondering how much this exercise has cost to Boeing, i bet air Canada did not do this this just for free.

[@danmichaud5506]

Its a ferry flight to transfer the plane to a storage location

[@royeb63]

It is also a way to keep the pilots current on the aircraft type. If they don't fly the type for a long time, they will have to go back to simulator training once it's coming back in service.

[@danmichaud5506]

@@royeb63 I have a feeling they'll be put into simulator training anyways, given the circumstances.

[@royeb63]

@@danmichaud5506 You're probably right. :) Had Boeing classified the MAX as a new type and skipped the MCAS (The plane is perfectly flyable without it. It just handles differently than the older models), and mandated simulator training, we probably wouldn't be in this situation in the first place. It would have cost the airlines more money, and I guess Boeing was afraid it would impact the sales (and profit). I bet they regret that decision now. :O)

[@cruisertechgt]

Not sure why they flying all the way to Arizona...just leave them parked here in hamilton or CSeries/A220 factory Mirabel (so they can steal the design...actually why would they want to)

[@wilburfinnigan2142]

flightEng Hey dumb ass !!! Arizona is DRY desert !!!! NO rust or corrosion or slime will grow on them !!!! DUUUUUUHHHHH!!!!!!!!

[@nicolaspronovost3463]

Climate

[@bilalahmed2123]

Hope all these death traps will eventually be scrapped. The pilots are real brave souls, risking their lives to flying these planes.

[@CARBONHAWK1]

Bilal Ahmed you are clearly clueless aren’t you

[@mapp4751]

if they have identified and fixed the issue with MCAS why would they scrap the airplane?

[@bilalahmed2123]

mapp47 just like they released the airplane in the mass market knowing it had problems from the start.

[@bilalahmed2123]

Pablo Herasme the fact that these planes are all flawed and each time they fly, it’s a huge gamble ?

[@AA-tz2bm]

Scrap 1 year old planes?

[@swingair-internationalairw6150]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF ( oh no its not only birds who are mad at planes DOGS TO MATE)

[@jaypek43-Phil]

And...no crashes!

[@kaykay5605]

Not every max 8 plane crashed

[@ablayendiaye4781]

C vraiment cool

[@ILM787]

Not a disastrous aircraft...

[@eudaldguell3004]

Dogs also are afraid.

[@brkitdwn]

Just be afraid of incompetent airlines like Lion Air.

[@AA-tz2bm]

brkitdwn I don’t think an incompetent airline would grow that big

[@antiguogrumete]

Los perros presienten el peligro, un avión muy inseguro que no debe volver a volar.

[@marcocastro7348]

Is not a disastrous aircraft, the A320 have a bad begging in 80's, whit 4 crashes, but look to him now. Boieng ceased the production because they don't have more parking to place the new aircrafts, until January, when the FAA say that the max could fly again.

[@737MaxPilot]

The FAA has said no such thing. Production will be temporarily halted until it makes sense to resume. That likely means when the aircraft is ungrounded with an Airworthiness Directive, and deliveries have resumed.

[@charlesduran8700]

The airbuses were never grounded and most of those were due to pilot error

[@marcocastro7348]

@@charlesduran8700 like says the oficial relatory of the two crashes of the max, the cause it wasn't only the MCAS, there are a few reasons, like almost crashes, the crashes of aircrafts never have one reason, always many reasons.

[@brkitdwn]

@@marcocastro7348 You are correct Marco, and actually, it was a multitude of reasons. Mainly, all Lion Air. They never repaired the aircraft properly, then put it back online. The pilots also had many issues, so, it's a multitude of issues that flight 610 went down. Had their maintenance fixed the plane correctly, we wouldn't even be commenting about that airline.

[@alexmcintyre8229]

@@brkitdwn I'm also pretty sure the in the case of the Ethiopian Air crash that at some point the pilots themselves turned MCAS back on instead of manually adjusting the trim.

[@KB7789]

HOW Many Max's Does Air Canada Have in the Fleet So Far???? HOW Many Are They Supposed to Get????

[@UUEECYYZ]

24 were in service before they were grounded. 63 in total combination off -7 and -8

[@737MaxPilot]

I’m not sure Air Canada was getting any -7s....I show 50 -8s either delivered, stored or on order yet to be built.

[@erikstephens34]

@@UUEECYYZ Air Canada is supposed to get a total of 50 Max 8 (24 delivered) and 11 Max 9. Air Canada also has a number of options and purchase rights that appear likely won't get taken. Especially with their order for 45 A220-300's.

[@cherifbar]

karma for Boeing's actions against Bombardier!

[@brkitdwn]

Boeing will come back.. How about Bombardier?

[@cherifbar]

brkitdwn Boeing will bounce back as will Bombardier. Both are venerable companies. That is however not exactly the point.

[@Dfpijgyt564s65sgt]

brkitdwn bombardier is selling their planes like hot cakes since Airbus took over so not sure what you mean?

[@cherifbar]

Al Borland, I think you answered that question yourself. Bombardier was forced to sell the program to Airbus for a dollar in order to keep the program alive. Boeing had ostensibly sabotaged the program by trying to get the US to impose crippling tariffs on the plane and thus keeping it out of the most important market in the world.

[@christopherflack7629]

Even the dogs weren't happy with it. They shouted at it as it took off.

[@AbuMazen151]

الحلو ما يكملشي. الكمال لله.

[@walterfink9782]

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[@1chish]

Interesting they flew off with just enough flaps to disable MCAS but no more. An empty aircraft should have needed a far shorter run before rotation. My understanding is regulators have put very stringent limits in place for these ferry flights.

[@WestTNbackyard]

Looked like Flaps 5 to me which is the normal configuration for a 737 takeoff.

[@1chish]

@@WestTNbackyard Fair play mate I have no idea but it did need a lot of runway. I understand the regulators only allow ferry flights with specifically nominated pilots, specially trained and only using flaps down in all the flight.

[@gerardacronin3095]

A very expensive albatross!

[@RLTtizME]

They will fly again. Boeing has made some of the best airplanes ever. You are a social media troll.

[@gerardacronin3095]

Richard L. T. I am not a social media troll. I believe you are correct that the Maxes will fly again. It remains to be seen whether and when the flying public will regain confidence in them.

[@RLTtizME]

Gerarda Cronin Nice try. The public will accept the revised Max in time....which will then be the safest aircraft in service. We know you have a secret wish that it will ultimately be taken out of service as a failed Boeing product ......just like the rest of the trolls piling on here. Merry Christmas.

[@marcocastro7348]

@@RLTtizME No doubt it's going to be the safest plane when get back flying, when there is an air disaster, investigations are done to know how to solve the cause of the accident and don't happen again for that reason.

[@charlesduran8700]

I think this is a sign that Boeing should retire this airframe since it dates way back to the mid '60s. I don't know of any other airliner that has a longer lifespan ( B747 come close but it's time is ending ) . It may be Boeings best selling aircraft but as they say all good things have to come to an end .

[@737MaxPilot]

Charles Duran this catastrophe has made many people feel the same way. The fact is, it remains the best selling aircraft of all time because it remains the best performer for the role. Just because mistakes were made, doesn’t mean they can’t be remedied...and they will be/have been already. The MAX will end up being one of the safest aircraft of all time...I’m quite sure, as long as airlines continue to place quality trained pilots aboard.

[@user-ee4zj7dt9f]

But there is nothing wrong with the airframe, in fact, it is a great airframe and will continue to be a good airframe. MCAS was put in place not because the changes made to the plane were dangerous, it was put in to keep the flying characteristics more similar to the NG series so it could stay with in the same type rating as the NG's. They plane flew just like a regular plane in testing with no MCAS, it just didn't feel the same as the NG. I suggest checking out the Mentour Pilot KZbin channel, more specifically the video "Will the Max fly again?!". It is a really good video that describes what changes were made, how they affected the airplane, and what they did about the changes.

[@charlesduran8700]

@@737MaxPilot Ok But i doubt it because the groundings are now going into the 2020's . I think the longest of any airliner . Being the safest airliner of all time is little comfort to the over 300 families who lost loved ones in those crashes . but just like you I will remain optimistic

[@charlesduran8700]

@@user-ee4zj7dt9f . all that sounds good but The longer it stays grounded the less confident i will become . But I will try to be optimistic , and not because I think the plane will be safe which i hope they will be , but the thousands of jobs that will be lost from suppliers and those related industries if the planes don't return to the air

[@alexmcintyre8229]

@@user-ee4zj7dt9f You took the words right out of my mouth. I honestly believe that the worst case scenario for these planes is that MCAS will be removed and that these planes will get certified as a brand new aircraft type(797). These planes aren't unstable and MCAS isn't needed to get out of a stall. Without MCAS these planes are different enough that they can't be included into the 737 family, they aren't bad aircrafts. I personally believe that if the 737MAX doesn't get re-certified by late summer(August-September) then Boing themselves might announce their plan is to remove MCAS from these planes and get them certified as a brand new aircraft(797).

[@kurt3929]

The dogs make this unwatchable

[@GH-oi2jf]

Kurt ANDREW - Turn the sound completely off.

[@gregmctevia5087]

Interestin.

[@ScepticOne]

IMHO...BOEING should bite the bullet and pay for the retraining of Pilots who will Pilot this aircraft with MCAS turned OFF. If that is impossible...Scrap The Planes. I bet the pilots will persevere.....They Truly are a Talented Bunch... . Let THEM Decide!!!

[@ericcarr8634]

Good video but shut that dog up........

[@MetaView7]

THat's where they will stay for the next 20 years

[@paulparker8298]

They should be taking them to the Soda can smelter !!!!

[@miketel01]

paul Parker wrong. They are great planes. Human error caused the crashes.

[@paulparker8298]

miketel01 they are outdated junk !!!! 50 year old planes dressed up with a few tweaks and cosmetics not to mention fatal flaws !!!!

[@miketel01]

paul Parker As per the accident investigation of both Aircraft which were involved in the crash is the determining factor was pilot error amongst a few other things that caused the crash is if the pilots for a more educated and provided the sufficient training the aircraft would not be lost

[@miketel01]

paul Parker I guess your an Airbus lover and own a Bmw or a Mercedes as well don’t forget airbus had plenty of problems of their own including their augmentation system that almost led to a crash and injured / crippled many people for the rest of their lives. And look at the A380 made by airbus what a complete failure that is they’re coming up to their second and third C inspection and it’s more desirable whole darn plane off rather than go through the process of Continuing it service life so yeah, airbus has their problems too don’t forget that.

[@miketel01]

paul Parker don’t forget about bombardier who took 3 stimulus payouts From Canadian taxpayers Twisted the Canadian governments hand to force Canadian airlines to buy the CS series plane and then at the end they went and sold it to Airbus and screwed the taxpayers out of all of the money. The Canadian airlines are stuck with their original orders too. And then what’s more they went and sold all of the aircraft industry except for the lucrative business jetsjet business to friggin Asian companies. Wow thanks bombardier

[@mbmarcell1]

A flying coffin ⚰️ Watch out people

[@brkitdwn]

All planes can be flying coffins, if you don't have skilled pilots making decisions. Sad part is, the pilots of the Lion Air crash were assigned to a broken plane. The final report uncovered how the plane had been taken out of service, and there were multiple issues that needed fixing, that weren't fixed correctly. That in of itself is criminal, despite MCAS having it's flaws, yet I wonder if any of their maintenance crew were prosecuted, fired or taken to task?

[@testpirate2570]

brkitdwn well said, @AeroBuckaroo you don’t have to be a pilot to look at those facts. They took off with a stall system screaming at them... and didn’t come back, flew 13 minutes away at 250kts to them hold and attempt to diagnose the issue with 170+ people onboard while never at anytime doing the necessary procedure. It’s easy to blame a dead pilot, but forget the fact that they didn’t do the procedure, forget the fact that they knowingly departed with an airplane with issues over multiple proceeding days... just focus on this... in North America it’s a major culture difference, flight crews we instantly declare and emergency and turn back as fast as they took off vs fly away and mess about... I’m certain they are pushed to operate those planes while the flight crews likely have less authority on the situation vs here. Crew will make that call clean and clear, aim for the runway end of story. Lots of miss information ... that said, the manufacturer has a role in this... a lot mishandled ...lastly, the lion air crew the proceeding day did the procedure when they had the issue and landed without issue... more too it

[@johnmosher5880]

hope they never leave the dessert

[@matinphal]

Flying coffins

[@globalsolutions8915]

Air Canada should send all B-737 MAX airplanes to the scrap yard > passengers will not fly in them! Replace with Airbus A-350, the best plane in the sky.

[@ThresholdProductionsCanada]

Global Solutions this doesn’t make much sense since the A350 is a widebody (for long haul) and a 737 is built for short-medium haul. Different markets.

[@CARBONHAWK1]

Not even the same type of aircraft 😂 gtfoh with that.

[@AA-tz2bm]

Do you even know what your saying the A350 is not even targeted at the same market and no one is scrapping 1-2 year old planes, holy shit.

[@wilburfinnigan2142]

Global the screbus A350 cannot and will not serve the same market as the Max !!!!! DUUUUUHH!!!!!!!!