Thunda 2019 High Power Rocket Launch

[@AdrianHepburn-vz9yr]

The government should encourage people to build their own rocket motors. Get the industry going here.

[@saltysteel3996]

That first rocket was amazing! Had the same look, sound, and attitude of a real one. And the V2 as well.

[@mistenfury]

Awesome Video! That's me and my son at 5:34

[@X4r1X]

Lol

[@964cuplove]

My son and me ?

[@christsrevenge8030]

Jo Gr. my son and I.

[@inex4431]

Awww.

[@donnieporter7890]

Real cool he was so happy he ran out to watch his rocket he can look at this video in 10yrs what a memory

[@Thompsonje]

I was happy to have watched this last night. Australia has a good group 🚀

[@dazzifoxking1560]

Always nice when you upload a video. It makes my day so much better!

[@jamieclay007]

So what is the rockets @ 10:51 ? Looks like there are 4 camera pods? Went to their website but didn't find any info.

[@AirCommandRockets]

I could be wrong but I believe that is correct. I think they were getting 360 degreee views.

[@unswrocketry8540]

Hi, They were indeed camera pods. Unfortunately we had some undetected issues with wiring so we did not actually capture footage. We bled off quite a bit of altitude with those pods and in future are looking to downsize and improve those fairings.

[@SirDeanosity]

That Bucky ball rocket was refreshingly unique among all the flying knitting needles. Marvin Martian came to mind as the designer.

[@mistenfury]

It's made by one of the New Zealand Rocketry Association members: www.nzrocketry.org.nz/ full carbon fibre

[@Ralph2]

What a great video! Very VERY good camera work, excellent stills and some amazing rockets. Well edited, this deserves views in the millions.

[@wazza33racer]

the V2 was cool........nice slow burn

[@colegilliam2379]

pretty sure it was slowed down but its still very very cool

[@SteelBuckeye]

A bit larger than my drugstore Estes kits.

[@thesaltyanimator]

John L way larger

[@000009999912345]

Try launching one of those at the local park, and see how quick the police arrive.

[@itchypit6413]

i wonder if it shows up on a radar

[@cut--]

I didn't see lil Kim Hung Ill's rocket launch.. :(

[@messupfreq550]

This is really great footage! With the upcoming season would it be possible to caption altitude, max speed, g-force, and time to climb info? They are all great Rocketeers but a little more info would a fantastic (helpful?) addition to understand the performance.

[@AirCommandRockets]

Cheers. While it would be great to include the extra information, most of the time it is really difficult to obtain simply because you don't have access to it. Either you don't know who the rocket belongs to, as at events like this there are 100's of rocketeers and 100's of rockets going up. Often you don't know the results of a flight until it is recovered which could be hours or even days later. Sometimes the flights are not instrumented. Ultimately it is just the level of effort required to get the info for a hobbyist with limited amount of time to edit a video.

[@Joeteck]

By far the most realistic and coolest launch by far! 6:30

[@Cult1022]

crazy... anyone knows what the max G those rockets suffer?

[@AirCommandRockets]

Drew's "Full Clip" rocket did around 61G. Our water rocket did close to 65G.

[@lez7875]

greetings from Brazil to all. this should be fun. the wind. the sun. the field. the rockets. fun for the whole family. very good. success.

[@AirCommandRockets]

Greetings from Sydney. It was definitely good fun, but also pretty windy. :)

[@lez7875]

@@AirCommandRockets . A Great Save The Australia.

[@thesaltyanimator]

The V2 rocket from Tintin was overall the best

[@readmycomment4696]

I was searching for this comment

[@livenhfree]

At 6:25, folks. Thanks for nuthin' salty.

[@matthewroberts3442]

I love the red and white checkerboard patterns on the rocket 🚀😎👍👍

[@AirCommandRockets]

The paint scheme is inspired by TinTin's Destination moon. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destination_Moon_(comics)#/media/File:The_Adventures_of_Tintin_-_16_-_Destination_Moon.jpg

[@aymericgoupil2138]

The youtube channel i was longing for

[@tommihommi1]

what causes the blue exhaust on some of the rockets?

[@AirCommandRockets]

It all depends on the propellant formulation. There are different propellants depending on what you need the rocket to do. Some are fast burning and some slower burning. They can have additives to colour them say red or green, sometimes they add titanium particles that produce sparks, sometimes propellant mixtures produce white smoke, others produce black smoke.

[@_mikolaj_]

It might be copper

[@altfactor]

I fully expect that sometime in the next ten years (by 2030), an "amateur" racketeer will successfully launch a satellite into orbit.

[@alittlelifeleft8232]

Check out bps space he just might be the person that does it

[@sirkamissk8962]

USA will say no, and call you terrorist.

[@proberts34]

The rockets I find most satisfying are the O3400 at 0:19 and the N2000 (1/4 scale V2) at 6:25 because they take a few moments to get going and seem fly more gracefully. For some reason, the rockets that go from zero to 500kph in 1 second don't appeal to me as much.

[@websitesthatneedanem]

15:45 - Jim's L600 Rattworks Hybrid. - Very little smoke... what's the fuel?

[@AirCommandRockets]

This is a hybrid. It normally burns some kind of plastic like Polypropylene (not sure what Jim used) as the solid propellant, and then for the oxidizer it uses Liquid Nitrous Oxide. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid-propellant_rocket

[@mikeburch2998]

That was a well produced video! Greetings from Arizona.

[@AirCommandRockets]

Thanks Mike, Hello from Sydney.

[@MiscRocketVideos]

Great video and a great launch! Yet one more reason to visit Australia!

[@agsukandar]

That's so cool... Love all the stuff!

[@lesismologueamateur]

Bonjour, superbes images, bravo à tous. Cordialement Papy

[@PRN4VY]

Jean-pierre Lainé no french please

[@scotthettel949]

That V-2 launch was spectacular! I'm currently building 3 versions, 13mm, 18mm & 24mm. I hope mine fly as good as that one. Bravo!

[@AirCommandRockets]

Good stuff! :) The V2 shown in this video was built by the same guys that flew the 1:1 scale V2 at the same event 4 years ago.

[@joshguevara796]

Hi george, always love watching your videos!

[@AirCommandRockets]

Thanks Josh. :)

[@RME76048]

Nice! Congrats from the other side of the pond!

[@davidlovel9551]

Great video. Thanks. Sorry I could not make it this year.

[@calvinf9218]

Awesome! By the way, what sort of fuel is it that burns with that brilliant blue colour? I have never seen that before.

[@AirCommandRockets]

That was probably an AeroTech Blue Thunder motor or a CTI Blue Streak.

[@mauricevandraanen4286]

My friends team rocket did not appear because it whas lightning fast and not visable to the eyes....................

[@jasebatey5468]

Awesome edit mate well done 😎🚀👍

[@AirCommandRockets]

Thanks Jase :) It was a fun event.

[@ImpHalla66]

Great video. That's how you put on a rocket event.

[@danielmoses6626]

I haven't done model rocketry since I was a kid, 40+ years ago, so I'm just wondering if these rocketeers still adhere to the model rocketry code of ethics, where rockets can only be made of balsa wood and cardboard, must be launched within X degrees of vertical, and cannot have guidance systems in them, amongst other articles of the code...

[@AirCommandRockets]

Yes for low power rockets (LPR) this is still true and clubs do enforce model rocket safety codes. However, in the last 40 years motors have become available that are very powerful, which necessitates construction materials and techniques that are far beyond balsa wood and cardboard to make these rockets fly safely without disintegrating. The world of HPR (high power rocketry) has evolved it's own set of rules and experience progression levels that allow people access to more and more powerful motors if they can demonstrate the ability to build and fly rockets safely. As far as guidance goes quite a few projects have been developed by rocketeers that help control roll rate and also steer the rocket on a vertical trajectory if it deviates too much.

[@ASTRONAUTICO]

Which was the result of horizon? please

[@AirCommandRockets]

We are making another video for the Horizon series. We'll publish any results then. We are also making a video about a couple of Dark Shadow flights that set our new personal altitude record. That will probably be ready next week.

[@spacemanmat]

Great video George.

[@AirCommandRockets]

Cheers SpaceManMat :)

[@dleland71]

Most excellent video editing! Fantastic event.

[@davidhicks6824]

Man! That Red Checkered V-2 Was A BEAUTIFUL Launch! It Looked like the Real Thing That the Germans Launched!

[@NoxmilesDe]

V2, is it you?

[@SpenserRoger]

How come the first launch achieved such a slow velocity as part of the 1st or even 2nd stage? What is the specific impulse of that mojtor supposed to be? Was the plume supposed to look like that? Does altitude scale with size 1:1? ie: 3X XXX feet for 1:2 scale means 6-7X XXX feet for 1:1? Also weren't Nike missiles meant as an ABM? So you'd need incredible velocity wouldn't you? With a Nike, modern Hypersonic missiles, and say just a regular or hobby rocket or missile...what's the difference in specific impulse, fuel, and way to achieve such a velocity? Also if your rocket is not going into LEO and doesn't sperate from stages, what's the point in having multiple stages?

[@AirCommandRockets]

A lot of interesting questions. The slow velocity is due to the rocket being filmed in slow motion. If you want to know the full details about this particular rocket have a look at the forum thread here: forum.ausrocketry.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5019 It is a very impressive build. Quick summary on the speed of this rocket: Booster reached mach 1.14 and the sustainer's peak velocity was mach 2.14 Just so that we are clear, this is a half scale model rocket. Just like people play with model trains, you can't really compare the power of a model train to a real train in a meaningful way. Multiple stages will help you achieve higher altitude in model rockets the same way they do for regular rockets whether you are trying to go orbital or sub-orbital. Was the plume supposed to look like that? Yes... for this particular motor used on the rocket.

[@2012listo]

Isn't that the Hulk's theme music?

[@dylanstewart5580]

Is this like the black rock, of Australia? In the USA we do most of the hobby high altitude stuff in Nevada

[@AirCommandRockets]

Yes, high altitude stuff is done from here.

[@custardthepipecat6584]

how abot a VB or XXXX powered rocket? good vid mate!

[@AirCommandRockets]

HAHA, we did that 4 years ago at Thunda with XXXX. :)

[@custardthepipecat6584]

@@AirCommandRockets wicked!

[@Masterfighterx]

2 things about the music. 1. Good you kept it low. 2. Sad it was added in the first place..

[@adamcturnbull]

Do they design and build their own engines or is that all bought ? I dont see the skill in buying everything then assemble and hit the button ? Whats to learn?

[@AirCommandRockets]

In Australia, it is illegal to make your own motors, so buying them is the only option. Scratch building your own rockets can be an art form. Building high performance rockets is a real engineering challenge, even if you don't make your own motor, making a rocket that flies at Mach 2+ and survives, recovers safely, and you find it afterwards is reward enough.

[@ArneChristianRosenfeldt]

@@AirCommandRockets Are hybrids and liquid engines illegal too? What if I build a water rocket and somehow replace the water with top-fuel and the air with oxygen and inject some burning bubbles into the flow? Or may I ignite the flour? What about a potato cannon as a launchpad?

[@AirCommandRockets]

Hybrids are not Illegal themselves, and a number of our club members fly them. I am not sure about liquid rockets, but I would expect they would fall in the same category as hybrids. You still must fly the rockets according to CASA rules for model rockets in terms of impulse, altitude and weight restrictions though in order to stay legal. Any pyrogens used to initiate these types of motors or used as ejection charges would be regulated. Legal issues aside you also have club rules to follow and whether any club will allow specific experimental motors to be flown or not is up to the club. And then there also are your rocketry safety guidelines in place for a good reason. You may ignite flour/liquids etc at your own risk, and would be liable for any consequences this may cause to others or property. A club will most likely not allow you to do this at one of their events as they have certain rules to follow set by their insurance company. A potato cannon could be used as a launch pad, but it may or may not be something a club would allow depending on the risks involved.

[@mrpisces5844]

It was really interesting, but whoeve recorded this had a drone and ground footage so why were we seeing stills sometimes, shots of basically notta. Should've had your ground then a shot of the rocket passing the drone giving us sight of the whole flight?! All could've been edited together and turned out great, half of the launches we missed looking at peoples heads...?

[@AirCommandRockets]

Unfortunately you don't always get ideal conditions to film as one would want. You are limited where you can film from at a launch like this. The stills were added because it shows more detail of the rocket in flight rather than from a wide angle video shot. Fast moving rockets are difficult to film, and those few stills used, they were chosen out of several hundred that did not turn out so well. Lastly, the video edit here is just footage we took in between prepping and launching our own rockets. You could do better if you were there exclusively to film rockets.

[@Sadiquecat]

Always up with the nice work :D Thanks for the vid

[@RCHeliJet]

11,4KM wow I am impressed I have a small rocket to but only reach 450-meter Fantastic Video, thumb up. Ohh and a small tornado ooppss....

[@AirCommandRockets]

Cheers thanks for that RCHeliJet :)

[@RCHeliJet]

@@AirCommandRocketsI can't stop watching now on 10min. all this work and technic like it, from Switzerland greetings.

[@multidiamanthunter]

@RCHeliJet there are some pretty awsome rockets made by European erospace student. Like the HEROS 3 made by HyEnD in Germany. Got a peak altitude of over 32 kilometers. There a video on yt if you wanna take a look

[@RCHeliJet]

@@multidiamanthunter Fantastic Work.

[@done4195]

I just have to ask.........did any brush catch fire when you launched it?

[@AirCommandRockets]

Nope.

[@mistenfury]

Not a single one from the 4 day event, the ground was cleared by farming equipment prior to the launches so there's no brush to catch!

[@miguel-spain1142]

Minute 0:29 ; a perfect launch. Welcome to see PLD SPACE, Spain.

[@chevy307sb]

Awesome, when’s the next event?

[@AirCommandRockets]

None planned as far as I am aware.

[@markissboi3583]

👨‍💻Australia has some cool rockets alway overseas were seeing . so this was great to see 🤵🔦Straya mate! 🐨👍👍👍

[@ksmi9109]

I’m thinking about getting into rocketry, and I have a question. Why is it that the listed burn times for motors and the real life burn times are different, with some being twice the expected burn time? It’s confusing me a little

[@AirCommandRockets]

Can you give a specific example? Different motors have different burn times. Commercially available solid motors typically can have a range of burn times from 0.5 seconds for some propellant formulations to 15+ seconds for others. Typically the burn time for a motor is quite accurate to what is stated by the manufacturer. I would say within 5% of what the manufacturer says for a specific motor.

[@ksmi9109]

Air Command Rockets the N2000 used on the 1/4 scale V2. On multiple sites (thrustcurve, Aerotech rocketry, and csrocketry) it states that that motor should burn for 6.9 seconds, but it lasts much longer in this video. Ive also seen this with a few Estes motors, where they are said to last ~6-7 seconds, but can last up to 11 seconds.

[@AirCommandRockets]

The video of the V2 is shot in slow motion so the apparent burn time is going to look much longer. For the Estes motors, I would expect the burn time to be correct as per manufacturer, but after burnout you may be seeing the delay charge burning. It produces smoke but not thrust.

[@ksmi9109]

Air Command Rockets oh ok, that makes much more sense 😂. Sorry for the dumb question. Thanks for answering

[@AirCommandRockets]

No worries. I thought it was a reasonable question. :)

[@RCLoversan]

What a day it must have been! My #Rocket #Drone would have certainly hold its own. :-)

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

Absolutely NOT a complaint, but why do you have launch announcer with an American accent?

[@AirCommandRockets]

One of the LCOs was Bryce Chanes from the US, who did such a great job last time as he is very knowledgeable they invited him back this time. The other LCO was Charlie Rosenfield from AeroTech who came with Gary Rosenfield to give a talk about the history of AeroTech. They both did a great job of LCO commentary. We had other Australians doing LCO duties over the 4 days of the event.

[@MiscRocketVideos]

@@AirCommandRockets Glad the question was asked, as that's a cool piece of info that I (and many others) would have never known!

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

@@AirCommandRockets >>> Rodger all that - Thanks!

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

@@AirCommandRockets >>> Forgot to add: *_"U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!"_* 😜😜😜😜

[@SimoWill75]

@@AirCommandRockets Charlie Savoie ;)

[@SterremanWillie]

Amazing day! Interesting in what strong wind they still launched!

[@AirCommandRockets]

There were a lot of people that held off launching because of the strong wind, at times it was 20-25 km/h but still within limits of being allowed to launch. We too held off until the afternoons when the wind had died down to 10-15 km/h.

[@jaimegarciatorres7711]

Como. Puedo hacer Para comprar un cohete super

[@jaimegarciatorres7711]

Un promedio cuanto cuesta un cohete intercontinental

[@blendertv9809]

hybrid rocket is the best

[@RedmanOutdoors366]

Wow those are BadAss 💯⛏️💪😎💯👍💥💥🔥🔥🔥

[@samarthbarshi1916]

To what height did these rockets climb?

[@AirCommandRockets]

Some went over 36,000 feet or 11km

[@samarthbarshi1916]

@@AirCommandRockets Wow!

[@edsontapiatorres5160]

what kind of material do they use for these rockets?

[@AirCommandRockets]

Most of the high performance rockets typically are made from fiberglass or carbon fiber. The low powered rockets are typically made from cardboard.

[@gojewla]

I wonder how fast some of these faster rockets travel? Seems like a few of them went 30,000 feet in just a few seconds. I am sure some of them break the sound barrier.

[@AirCommandRockets]

Quite a few of these go supersonic. Usually in the 1-2 Mach range, though some were over Mach 2. Several years ago at a similar event, one rocket went 66,000 feet at over Mach 3.3

[@samarthbarshi1916]

I have heard that these type of rockets can hit an aeroplane. Is that true?

[@AirCommandRockets]

While there is a non-zero chance, safety procedures exist that this is very unlikely. These launches are coordinated with air traffic control to make sure aircraft are kept out of the launch area.

[@samarthbarshi1916]

@@AirCommandRockets I got it. Thank you

[@grandlotus1]

For my money, Australia and Texas should for a national union. We have SO much in common.

[@grandlotus1]

Australia looks a lot like home, including the weather, mate.

[@thelongslowgoodbye]

This was done in my home state of Queensland and it's often compared or referred to as the Texas of Australia.

[@thethirdman225]

@Roger Rarebit Everyone else.

[@Mithranos]

Super awesome!

[@bradhilton2283]

Holly jump'n I've never seen model rocketry at this leavl . What amazing feats .

[@AnaoDoEmbu]

What is the propellant fuel for these rockets?

[@AirCommandRockets]

Most of the high power rockets use APCP. The same type of propellant used in the Space Shuttle solid rocket boosters. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonium_perchlorate_composite_propellant

[@usydrocketryteam6053]

Great video! Thanks for including our launch. For those who are interested we've just uploaded the launch footage and a short video on the prototype test preparation and launch. Check out both clips on our channel.

[@KrustyKlown]

longer burning motors are entertaining to watch ... 1/4 scale V2 6:28 awesome show!!!

[@jeffgorham8819]

That flight reminds me of how Von Braun described the original V-2 -- a fiery sword.

[@chaosopher23]

The one flying C65 was the best - despite the rest of the lot being mighty ones. The C65 launch created a new rocketeer.

[@govindapanickerpadmanabhap4585]

Which engine is used for this rocket??

[@AirCommandRockets]

Do you mean the V2? ... That used a N2000W motor.

[@batchosaurus]

nice work folks wish i'd been there

[@anakinskywalker5972]

I wanna visit space one day in the future

[@BillAnt]

"Bucky is unlocky" :D

[@neonknight27]

Why feet in Australia?

[@AirCommandRockets]

Altitude is generally measured in feet. Even pilots all over the world use feet for altitude.

[@abdelhakimoubraham2181]

Duuude I didn't know "high power rockets" was a thing. These people are crazy ^^

[@komitadjie]

That V2 would be *so* cool if it actually ran Alcohol / LOX. xD Stupidly impractical, buuuuuut...

[@eddiebrevet4000]

An idea, I recently thought of, a “slow” rocket made of lightweight material, aluminum foil, even perhaps. Shaped cylindrical, with lightweight frame holding two cans of pressurized alcohol, or other, pointed towards nose cone. I never get to it , think it might be interesting

[@TrilhasAzuis]

Magnifico! que gostoso participar num lugar desses! show!!!

[@RaketfuedrocketsDeutschland]

Thunda is such an amazing event, I wish I could be there. Happy to see a part of Horizon finally took of! How much pressure did you use? We can't wait to see the next update! :) All the best! Julian

[@AirCommandRockets]

Hi Julian, yes it was a very good event. I was really impressed by the quality of the university entries in the competition. They had 2 competitions, nearest to 10,000 feet and nearest to 30,000 feet. They also flew some science payloads. The first comp winner got to 10,081 feet! One of the rockets even had active air breaks that monitored its flight and adjusted the breaks to try to hit the right altitude. The full Horizon update will be probably a couple of weeks with all the details. :) I am just putting together the Dark Shadow video which will be done next week. ;)

[@AirCommandRockets]

You'd probably want to talk to the organizers. I know it took a couple of years of planning. Contact the owners of Australian Rocketry: ausrocketry.com.au/contact/

[@raildawg8338]

Great job by all!

[@nescio03]

You might get better video result with autofocus off when filming the sky.

[@AirCommandRockets]

I agree.

[@nescio03]

@@AirCommandRockets Nice video though. I admire the dedication of all these amateur rocketists.

[@wilson4328]

Great vid, never-ending music track.

[@kskcreations2334]

Excellent competition. And I really want to see an amateur rocket that enters space with an onboard camera

[@giantossi]

Nica Video. As a hobby photographer i'd like to know what camera do you use? Seems to be a faster one👍😉

[@AirCommandRockets]

For the stills we use a Nikon D3400 with the 70-300mm lens, and for video we use a number of cameras but mostly the Panasonic HC-WX985M 4K camera. Here is a video about some of the cameras we use: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaWbooGebdufpck , since the video we have upgraded the main camera to the Panasonic HC-WX985M, because the previous one met an unfortunate end when it was hit by a descending rocket (under parachute) when it was out near the pads on a tripod.

[@giantossi]

@@AirCommandRockets Thank you for your answer. The quality of the stills is indeed very good. To me the camera sounds like a Canon 5D Mk 3 or something similar. Not an entry level camera 😁. Me, i am using a Canon 700d,, also entry level with the same speed of 5Fps. Your pictures of the launching rockets are very sharp and impressive. I am from Germany and we do not have so much places were we are allowed to launch rockets as high as you are. For next summer i will check the internet and hopefully there will be a place nearby, so i can take my son and have an exciting day. For you and your family all the best wishes for the future.

[@sendit2873]

the 1/4 V2 was amazing

[@Rickshaw881]

Great stuff. Cheers to Aussie!

[@robsin2810]

Well one Karl.

[@jeffreyb8770]

Love the sound!

[@srvictorbatista]

Very good! 👏👏👏

[@kirkc9643]

Why, why oh whyyyy the music? :-/

[@angluneenon]

the rocket in the thumbnail looks like the German V-2 rocket.

[@GlobalAviationFilming]

Am making a plastic water powered rocket i year 10 advanced science. Any ideas? cheers

[@AirCommandRockets]

Sure, what do you want to know?

[@GlobalAviationFilming]

Our rocket are going for distance not height, so was thinking an aerofoil shape fins.. here are my ideas on google doc

[@AirCommandRockets]

You mean like wings? You may find that they will likely cause more drag. You would also have to make sure that the rocket doesn't turn upside down during the boost and that the rocket would glide in the correct direction.

[@blueangelba135]

this is my private account.. ok thats a good point

[@blueangelba135]

@@AirCommandRockets www.sierrafoot.org/x-15/documents/X-15_design_proposal.pdf go to page 49

[@stevensons78]

Now that’s a Day of Rockets n Fun..... Awesome Planes.....

[@WisdomVendor1]

Some g-force and velocity charts would be awesome to see.

[@AirCommandRockets]

Some info on the first rocket: forum.ausrocketry.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5019

[@Twin_Flyer]

Very impressive, wish I was there!!

[@donnieporter7890]

Awesome stuff

[@crxstalline_]

That hybrid was NOICE

[@wufongtanwufong5579]

I think Australia has one of the most impressive flags in the world

[@AirCommandRockets]

Shhhh.... don't tell New Zealand. :)

[@alienbeef0421]

Oh wow, my birthday was on the last day :)