Interview with Ari Saarinen on the Saab 35 Draken

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[@deadphone9639]

_"In an interview, Finnish Air Force pilot Ari Saarinen recalled performing the Cobra maneuver (Kort parad manöver) in a Draken while intercepting a Royal Air Force Nimrod over the Baltic Sea; the Nimrod pilot reduced power in order to get the Finns to overshoot, but the Finnish Drakens performed the cobra maneuver to slow down, which according to Saarinen caused the British pilot to praise them over the radio."_ Legend! :)

[@hoagybob]

These Finns are just the understated nice guys. Always a great sens of humor balancing a clear talent for what they do. Nice people.

[@ivanrohal7489]

Fins are indeed very nice people and very good soldiers.

[@Siddich]

its because they dont know, how good they are at doing their things, for them its normal 😂

[@dallesamllhals9161]

@@EastExplorer Sauna?

[@martijnklasing7815]

In 1999 I was in Rovaniemi, Finland. When I was waiting in the airport hall to get home, two Saab 35 Drakens took off. One got out of sight, but to my big surprise the other jet began performing aerobatic maneuvering above the airfield. It even came flying right towards the airport building and just before I thought it would to go through the glass facade the pilot set the plane on its tail in full AB. The whole building was shaking. Quite astonishing and a great rememberance of the time I spent in Finland.

[@nostromo.]

A amazing guy. These interviews are so important for the generation's to come. Thank you

[@Aircrewinterview]

Thank you!

[@Pow3llMorgan]

These old fly guys are such a nice breed. All of them are so humble and well mannered and of course the love for their trade (and hobby in many cases) comes through very clearly in these interviews. Great stuff!

[@simageorge63]

Yes, and the jet's from their time frame wasn't too easy to fly and maneuver with out any questions.

[@Gonken88]

They sure as hell weren't well mannered back in the day 😂. Lot of vomit on those parties according to the legends.

[@patriot52realfinn22]

I know personally Ari and very professional fighter pilot and has a great sense of humor. Regads to Ari and all sqdrn 11 pilots.

[@tarpattituopponen7783]

The swastikas you can see aren’t related to fascism. Actually they are Finnish Air Force symbols from 1918-1945. Swastikas are still on FAF flags and medals. Prior to Nazis it was used as a symbol of good luck.

[@cameraman655]

Yep, it is amazing how one individual can completely distort a symbol or anything for that matter. I have visited several Hindu and Buddist temples in India and Nepal where the Swastika was engraved, many outsiders confusing it with that twisted and demented failed Austrian artist in the 30s and 40s who perverted it's meaning.

[@jonremmers7723]

Also the swedish company ASEA used the "svastika" for many years as part of their company logo. When the nazis came to power in Germany in 33, they changed logo as a result. There are many storys like this...

[@amramjose]

The swastika "rotating" anti clockwise and flat, is also a Buddhist symbol, also found in some Hindu art.

[@robgoodsight6216]

Thank you for the clarification...still to this day very few know that this symbol is an Indo-European symbol with deep ramification in Hindus Culture and religion, never the less Buddhism....

[@AssassinAgent]

Yep, people just don't know enough about history. You never can no enough about history

[@worddunlap]

I had an old SAAB 900 car and it was exquisite. Clutch in the front of the engine and a FAST car for it's time. 2 million miles and rock steady.

[@stevem1976]

great interview and what a nice humble guy Ari Saarinen is.regards from Dublin ,Ireland.

[@Aircrewinterview]

Thanks mate.

[@yokumato]

Great interview! Was impressed with how honest was his opinion about the difference between flying commercial or for the air force. I suspect many ex air force pilots must agree :-)

[@jannenevalainen7611]

Just a amazing and professional interview about Finn legend! Thank you!

[@cyclingnerddelux698]

Outstanding interview! I love these old Cold War era pilots and aircraft. Ari Saarinen was super! Keep it up Mike!

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Cheers!

[@stefanpettersson8918]

Nice guy. Finnish airforce should be proud of this officer. And his speaking of English is great..

[@mikewysko2268]

Enjoyed the interview. I have always admired the performance and good looks of the Draken. Met a Draken pilot back in 1984 who was training into the F16. Although he liked the F16, he really loved the Draken.

[@Aircrewinterview]

Cheers Mike. I think the Draken still looks futuristic to this day.

[@AdurianJ]

Aircrew Interview the fallback plan if the Gripen wasnt developed was to rebuild the J35F into the AJ-35 Mod 4 with canards and anti ship missiles

[@gazzertrn]

priceless interview from a draken pilot , id love too hear more of this .

[@JoakimFritz]

Another great one! Awesome hearing about the actual handling characteristics of the J35. 10 degrees nose up on landing with 90% power?! I wonder what the descent rate was... Kiitos Ari!

[@erikliljeberg1796]

Hyvä video, greetings from Sweden lad!

[@henkka410]

What a great and interesting interview😁 Their fouga duo show is allways so beautiful to watch.

[@mikkoveijalainen7430]

Yep. The two Fougas flying in tight formation doing aerobatics is a pretty sight to see. Saw them at Tikkakoski in June at the Finnish Air Force 100 Years air show.

[@MPPelli]

Cheers from Finland! I just found this channel, amazing stuff! Looking forward to gorging through all these great interviews. For me this video is a good way to start exploring the content, as the Saab Draken is my favourite out of all the aircraft the Finnish Air Force has had in their inventory.

[@Mattebubben]

Finally a Saab related video!! Now you need to scare up some Swedish pilots 😉. Optimally somebody who flew multiple types/variants. A Danish F-35 Draken pilot would be interesting also as it was a quite different aircraft in many ways then standard fighter/interceptor variant operated by the other users. Great interview as Always and im looking forward to the next one (and im hoping you asked him om his view on how it compared with the J-35).

[@bobthebomb1596]

Saab Draken, my all time favourite plane. Good interview.

[@Aircrewinterview]

Thanks Bob.

[@swtruckerpv]

Another great interview Mike, I am married to a Finn so I have a particular interest in Finnish aviation.

[@Aircrewinterview]

Cheers mate.

[@TLTeo]

Wonderful interview as usual. We need the Viggen and Gripen now!

[@nervo6321]

Great vid ....great aircraft.... + his English is excellent....

[@ghostindamachine]

What a nice guy! I bet he is a wonderful instructor.

[@mikkoveijalainen7430]

Ari certainly trained a whole bunch of Finnish Hawk and Draken pilots during his service years.

[@arikivimaki]

That was my aircraft back in the days, too.

[@johnraina4828]

All finish fighterpilots are named Ari

[@arikivimaki]

@@johnraina4828 Some are :)

[@chaos6839]

@@johnraina4828 it's a very common name

[@Siddich]

like a lot of flying dutch pirates are called günther 🤗 …yes of course i am olaf…

[@chaos6839]

@@Siddich every swede is called Sven or Svensson

[@jaakkooksa5374]

At the beginning of the clip you can see a de Havilland Goblin jet engine on the floor, and to the left of it is a silver de Havilland Vampire aircraft which used that type of engine. The Goblin engine is a centrifugal design, unlike modern jet engines which are all axial.

[@nirfz]

Thanks! i grew up next to an airbase with Saab Drakens, and sometimes miss seeing and hearing them take off and flyby. And i remember seeing the presentation and Flying Display of the red-white-red Draken 1997 (16:11). Ostarrichi Draken as we call it, because it was painted with the, then 1000 year old first written mention of Austria, back then called Ostarrichi. When it took off they played a moving song about home and everybody was silent, and some people even had tears in their eyes.

[@Aircrewinterview]

Glad you enjoyed it. Cheers for the info, you learn something new everyday!

[@Snudur67]

I got a chance to sit in a stationary (sic) operational Draken in ca 1979. I find it funny that at the time I was quite interested in Fighter Jets, as these flew regularly past above the field in front of my home in Sweden, but the Draken did not interest me much, more so the SAAB Viggen J37 and the older SAAB Tunnan J29. As I matured my appreciation for the beauty of the Draken has though grown. One of the more beautiful of fighter jets ever made, and the power... well lets say that the power felt standing nearby when it powered up for take off and engulfed a bath tub amount of jet fuel made an impact! No wonder many of my friends desired to get into the Flygvapnet as conscripts, flying jets and getting a "free" pilot´s license to then fly for SAS. Those were the days

[@Leptospirosi]

Back in the early 2K we were developing a Draken model for Strike Fighters, but we hit a wall trying to get the "feel" of the plane for developing a suitable flight model: I've heard about the super stall problem before, but we didn't know when (22°) it develops and how the stable the plane was manoeuvring, because nobody we contacted, either in Sweden and Denmark was willing to give us first hand informations (for free, being a free model). have we had access to this kind of informations we could have done a better job.

[@Napalmcpt]

Interesting! I really love the Strike Fighters -series. I'm still flying a lot of Strike Fighters 2.

[@AdurianJ]

Finland had a few different Draken versions Ex Swedish B C and F versions, and their own F equivalent built by Valmet. Some Drakens didn't have radar because of treaties with the USSR on the max number of "fighters". The Finns modified their Valmet drakens to basically a Swedish J35J+ standard as they got RWR's and Countermeasures integrated as the Danish scrapped their drakens they bought the RWR's second hand.

[@Hepetius100]

And J35 SF versions, your right, I dont know ? How modification, Valmet to do ? Secret ??

[@imhenree]

Finnish drakens did infact not have RWR's. Countermeasures? yes, 12 large calibre countermeasures. but no RWR's

[@AdurianJ]

@@imhenree I confused it with Austria which upgraded their Drakens at the same time because of the fighting in Yugoslavia.

[@simmo8490]

Great interview thanks Mike! Gotta love the cool no B.S nature of the Fins! Awesome cold war flying story :)

[@Aircrewinterview]

Cheers Simon!

[@patrickflohe7427]

Thank you Ari, and thanks also to AI!!!! The Drakken is one of my favorite aircraft of all time. I actually got to see them in England, when I was in the USAF back in the 80s. What a treat it was, to see the different NATO aircraft types, as well as others.

[@Aircrewinterview]

Great to hear you enjoyed it, Patrick.

[@RAWPILOT]

What a nice man ! Great interview. Thanks.

[@andreasjonsson8075]

Best interview ever! Thanx to the both of you.

[@cm7862]

What a great guy. And his favorite airplane is the De Havilland Mosquito! There's a guy who knows his airplanes :-)

[@PorscheGTRSWeissach]

Interesting Channel! I'm new here but interested in military aviation for decades! The Saab Draken allways was one of my favourite Designs! Simple but Beautiful! Amazing Jet! :-)

[@Aircrewinterview]

Thanks I hope you enjoy our content.

[@PorscheGTRSWeissach]

Let's see! ;-) I like the guy from this clip!

[@johannmckraken9399]

Very interesting video. Ari seems like a very nice person and I’ll bet he’s a terrific instructor, if I ever scrape enough money together for a Magister I’ll be sure to look him up. The Draken has been a long time favorite since building a model of one when I was very young. It always struck me as an aircraft that was ahead of it’s time and once more accurate information about it was available my admiration has increased. The Swedes go their own route when designing an aircraft and they sure seem to have a knack for building excellent aircraft. Long live the SAAB Draken!

[@tonyhaynes9080]

And this is why the Hawk is still the advance fast jet trainer of choice.

[@terot8341]

First versions was probably worst in training, or overall flying, but all overhauling and R&D FAF has made to them, chanced them to decent planes.

[@MrBabylon]

Traffic Jams over the Baltic sea!!! Love the stories.

[@1MrErling]

Spy plane in 1967. We live 10 km (air line distance) from the main militayr NATO air base in Norway, Gardermoen. I love to see the NATO jetfighters on the sky every day. A sunny summer day in 1967, a singel ''Draken'' came slow, quiet, and very ,very ,very low from east, (Sweden is only 60 km air line distance away) and turn back east over the top of our house. Very low. Very, very noisy it built speed. but still very low flying I was a young boy, who loved figheter planes, and knew at once what kind of a plane Draken is.. Swedes are spies..!

[@Humppapuoskari]

Modern pilot equipment also feature the bladder at the back of the helmet with added positive pressure breathing so I guess the swedes were ahead of their time back then. Now days proper fitting of the helmet with other anti-G equipment is perhaps even more important than back then since now days we have all these gizmos like JHMCS (Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System), NVG etc.

[@andreastornesel8404]

Best interview ever, nice to hear about all the details regarding J35. And everything else👍👍👍👍👍

[@craigpennington1251]

The most unique design I've ever seen and way cool and extremely capable even in today's environments. I bet it guzzles fuel like a Phantom too. Very good video and all the best to Ari and all concerned with this video. 35 Draken - amazing machine.

[@Lonewolf8012]

The Prettiest jet fighter ever. No other plane comes close to, the J35 has been an obsession of mine for 30 years plus. remember my uncle gave me a poster of the diffrent SAAB planes whene i was 6-7 years and saw this Crown jewel of a plane and that was it, i was hooked, the only fighter jet that would make me look away from the Warbirds.

[@Aircrewinterview]

It’s a beautiful aircraft that’s for sure.

[@PorscheGTRSWeissach]

Nice comment! Me as an aviation enthusiast I have to agree! Loving Warbirds like Mustang, Corsair, Spitfire, Sea Fury, Bearcat for their elegance and sound as much as older Jetfighters! You know, todays Jets are supercritical and not airworthy without damn computers! I allways prefered classic Jetfighterdesign like Mirage, Draken, HA 300, etc. ;-)

[@AdurianJ]

@@PorscheGTRSWeissach When the Gripen was entering development a backup project was to update the existing J35F Draken to a much more advanced version. But after a few wind tunnel tests etc the project was cancelled because the aircraft got such radically improved performance that it could threaten the Gripen projects if the politicians got wind of it. The Draken would have gotten moving canards for example

[@Kman31ca]

Ya, even as a kid I always thought the Draken was a great looking plane.

[@generalchicken3385]

Completely agree with you. The Draken has been my favorite aircraft, all my life. Still keep a 20-25 year old model which I built as a kid. Every SAAB fighter since the J35 come close though.. Viggen and Gripen are also beautiful planes in my opinion.

[@joukomoilanen9356]

Draken was "my childhood jet fighter" in Rovaniemi Finland. Very noisy!

[@WhereNerdyisCool]

What a great story...I love hearing about the Draken from a pilot's perspective

[@Groaznic]

Haha, the guy even made an Ace Ventura reference, what a legend!

[@chrishewitt4220]

Different perspective was fantastic! Thanks for another great interview.

[@Aircrewinterview]

Cheers Chris.

[@Faidros62]

The first airplane in the Finnish air force was a gift from the Swedish count Eric von Rosen to the white side in 1918, during the Finnish civil war. The count used the swastika as his personal emblem and the plane was marked with his emblem when delivered. The emblem stuck and was used by the Finns for a long time with out any connections to the German use of the symbol. There are however a possible link between the Finnish use of the symbol and the German use. In 1920 Eric von Rosen (who gifted the firs plane to Finland) was looking for someone to fly him to his estate - Rockelsta castle. The weather was bad and no Swedish pilot where willing to fly him but a German, former fighter pilot was willing to fly him home. When they arrived the weather was even worse so the pilot was invited to stay over the night at the castle. At the castle the pilot vas introduced to the sister of von Rosens wife, Carin that later became his wife. The pilot was no other than Herman Göring well before he met Adolf Hitler and became the head of the Luftwaffe. Göring would have seen the swastika during his time at Rockelsta and one can speculate if Göring later was the person that introduced the swastika to Hitler - hence the link between the Finnish and the German swastika. However most historians holds this link as unlikely and argues that Hitler would have known about the swastika as it was already in use by many in Germany at the time.

[@dberaupilot]

Loved this interview! Nice job getting this one

[@Aircrewinterview]

Thanks, I’m glad to hear you enjoyed it.

[@ozgurkaratas6450]

Thanks for the nice interview, it is nice to hear about rare experiences from the first hand.

[@thefrecklepuny]

Great. An interview with a pilot of a rarer less exported type.

[@gikaradi8793]

FUNtastic Aircrew Interview !!PLEASE if possible do some interviews with Greek and Turkish pilots of F100,F102,F5,F4,F104,Mirage F1s etc with their stories of the hard air combats between them back in the 70s and 80s

[@Aircrewinterview]

Hopefully in the future we will be able to.

[@gikaradi8793]

Ηi AI :lets say i ll find pilots of Greece or Turkey for interviews where/how can i contact you?(almost hypothetical)!!!

[@markdavis2475]

I was amazed when I saw the instrument panel! Where is the normal forest of dials and indicators! Very simple but probably lots going on in the background!

[@Aircrewinterview]

This version is the B model, which is essentially the single seat training variant.

[@dankuettel5063]

These interviews make my day. Looking forward to future interviews and hopefully some day you can speak with Russian pilots.

[@Aircrewinterview]

That’s great to hear, Dan! Hopefully one day, but out next Interview (19 August) is with a Finnish pilot who flew the MiG-21 so hopefully that will give you an insight into the jet.

[@Salty1952]

Great interview with a very approachable, Ari Saarinen. Would love to buy him a beer or two and hear some stories!

[@0w784g]

If I remember rightly the Draken would have carried anti-air rockets. Would've been an interesting to hear if he had any experience.

[@simonchaddock3694]

Very humble characters

[@mktm1290]

Another nice bloke, the fins seem like top lads! Would love to know if he ever come up against an EE lightning

[@NLBoots]

Cool guy, thanks for sharing.

[@nevillecreativitymentor]

The Primary Gliders behind AWESOME

[@daveschilling8625]

I feel honoured you chose and flew the Draken. And flew them well, none crashed?

[@magnusolert1195]

The sound levels of Ari and the interviewer could have been matched better.

[@Aircrewinterview]

I am working on a mic for myself so should be sorted soon

[@christiancruz4533]

❤wow.such a nice vid..great interview. Lov the fighter. Love the cockpit tour !!!!!❤

[@azoique]

Seen the Draken fly a few times and it sure is majestic.

[@kingvii7250]

Ari.. what an awsome guy.👍

[@Aircrewinterview]

Sure is

[@thefrecklepuny]

That cockpit looks refreshingly 'simple' as well. Very uncluttered. A stark contrast to the Jaguar a couple of weeks ago!

[@Aircrewinterview]

It was the “B” version which is the trainer single seat version.

[@mikkoveijalainen7430]

Yes indeed. The B version (or Bertil) we had didn't have a radar. But then again pretty much all versions of the J 35 had very straightforward and user friendly cockpits. These certainly include the single seat fighter versions of David, Filip and Johan.

[@DaFlyingStrawberry]

I just want to add that the Bertil was only a trainer in Finnish service. Sweden used them as fighters.

[@Mattebubben]

Sebastian Craenen and to add further the B in Swedish service was fitted with both a radar and a datalink system.

[@DaFlyingStrawberry]

Mattebubben indeed it was, first in the world

[@sfertonoc]

Swedish cranked arrow was ahead of its time, and makers of the Concord copied it for high-low speed handling qualities

[@malticfarm5166]

Lets call it a double delta, cranked arrow just sounds skewed to me. Im with you otherwise, slap some canards on there and who knows where we will end up. But i am wondering why the deltawing (plus canards) is so frequent in european designs but not elsewere?

[@dcanmore]

Concorde has a ogival delta wing not a cranked arrow design.

[@dcanmore]

if you take out Europe (inc Russia), USA and China, there's not many military jet aircraft producers in the world. USA had their deltas in the '50/60s but the companies that produced them are no longer around (Convair and Douglas) and were replaced by those that didn't develop deltas.

[@jukkakukkonen477]

Ari Saarinen,was Draken, pilot.

[@fatdad64able]

Saab Draken and Mirage IIIC, Two airplanes absolutely on par with the best planes of the "superpowers" at their time. Unfortunately Germany didn't buy it instead of the F104 Starfighter. It would have saved many pilot's lifes. A beautiful airplane.

[@lenfirewood4089]

Yeah good point - we Brits too got screwed with that deal in fact if I remember right ended up buying those death traps(F104) and scrapped what was by all accounts a much more advanced and superior aircraft the TSR2 - dirty politics! That said I think it would have fantastic to have had joint development as both nations punch well above their weight when it comes to innovation and design.

[@plkngtun]

Only German F-104´s suffered a horrific track record. Crash and failure rates in other countries where the F-104 was used was not larger then other contemporary aircraft. It was not the plane that was bad, it was the way Germany misused it that caused it to be called the "widow maker".

[@fatdad64able]

@@plkngtun Germany needed a fighter bomber. If you look at the F104 and its rudimentary wings and missile-like airframe it is plain to see that it is an interceptor and in no way an aircraft designed for subsonic low level flight with a heavy bomb load. It was Lockheed who assured the German secretary of defense that the F104-G could do just that. And of course a couple of million dollars for Franz Josef Strauss and his buddies, to "convince" them for good. Biggest military scandal after WW2, called "The Lockheed affair".

[@plkngtun]

@@fatdad64able you missread my comment. As I stated, germany "miss-used" the plane. Blame German pliticians and military leadership, not the plane itself. As you mention yourself, it was an interceptor, and for countries that needed a cheap, lightweight, low endurance and low maintenance interceptor able to shoot down russian bombers, it was an ideal choice and performed quite well without severe losses. Other countries operated the G-version too without any problems out of the ordinary. The plane really does not deserve its poor reputation. You also mentioned the Draken, which was also purely designed as an fighter/interceptor. The only country where it was in reality utillised as an attacker aircraft was in Denmark, and those reguired extensive and extremely expensive rebuilds to accomodate that role. This rebuilding included a total redesign of the wings for them to be able to carry any significant bombs, which in turn heavily increased it´s weight and drag in turn decreasing acceleration, top speed and overall agillity.

[@fatdad64able]

@@plkngtun No, I didn't. We basically agree. I just wanted to point out that Lockheed plays an important role in the whole deal. They said the plane is suited for Germany's needs and the F 104-G was created especially for Germany. The G version was the fighter bomber version created by Lockheed ( while in reality it was more a Frankenstein's bride of a plane). To say the plane was "misused" by Germany is actually incorrect. You completely ignored that in your comment.

[@zzhawker]

Great interview & he got the right favourite aircraft he'd like to have flown the Mossie ;-)

[@Aircrewinterview]

Cheers

[@peuramauriainen604]

Mulla on pienoismallina MIG21 C aion maalata sen suomen väreuhin ..tarroja ei oo mut sen kissan saa piirtämällä ja tunnukset maalamal🙂..

[@jyrkijyrki9392]

Saa olla tarkka käsi jos aikoo tuon kissan piirtää. Ei ne dekaalit paljoa maksa.

[@benghazi3754]

If you want to see Draken fly, it comes to the weekend airshow "Flygfesten" every three years it is held in Sweden. The only flying Viggen also comes by to show of it's abilities, which is something else. The latest Gripen model is a given of course. And the war proven Tunnan.

[@zepter00]

Almost the same looking air speed indicator ( the same style) is in F-105 Thunderchief

[@bipolatelly9806]

Fascinating and what an awesome dude. Love Finland.

[@grizzworld]

Thanks for this really nice interview "thumbs up"

[@seabound1350]

Great interview!

[@Aircrewinterview]

Cheers

[@marcushillerstrom25]

"The boarder is there to know where to pay the taxes" 😂 What a great guy

[@n7565j]

Always enjoy your videos sir!!! And I'll be eagerly awaiting your next ;-)

[@Aircrewinterview]

Thanks Brian.

[@wrexxjohnson8009]

So where is the guided tour of that Finnish Air Museum with all those amazing and interesting displays

[@cory__6167]

Brilliant interview!

[@Aircrewinterview]

Cheers

[@azynkron]

The J-35 still looks like something out of a Sci-Fi movie. Incredibly beautiful airplane.

[@jasontennant8994]

In t(h)rust, we trust! Great interview.

[@renebergqvist599]

Interesting - I used Air Botnia to/from Turku or Helsinki many times - either from Stockholm or Copenhagen. Landing crosswind in Turku in a blizzard in an Avro 85 with it's narrow gear is quite an experience.... But I bet guys like this are used to just that.

[@KingKong-os7iv]

First class video!

[@Aircrewinterview]

Thank you.

[@simonrichardson5077]

Superb video Mike thanks

[@Aircrewinterview]

Thanks Simon.

[@leifvejby8023]

Is that a W33 in the background, on the floor? Standing underneath it later on.

[@mtgAzim]

I always like using this on Ace Combat Zero, I wish it had gotten into AC7

[@bougaevaleksandr1450]

Minding strict anti-alcohol rouls in Finnland, it would be interesting to know what liquid was used in Draken as anti-icing fluid.

[@tarpattituopponen7783]

Bougaev Aleksandr Most likely denaturated alcohol. Not poisonous but will make vomit if you drink it. In order to buy non-denatured 99% alcohol you need a special permit to buy it. It can be admitted only for special purposes such as instrument cleaning for laboratories etc.

[@bougaevaleksandr1450]

@@tarpattituopponen7783 ))Fine. My senior friends told me there were some attempts to use the alcohol with special additives making vomit in the Soviet Air Force (early 50s). But Russians invented a lot of methods to purify the alcohol. Anyway, many 'amatures' still had been poisoned. After some incedents went to letal consiquence, the Soviets started to remain the alcohol for anti-icing purposes without any additives. So, when the Tu-22 would get to the base (400 liters of pure 'medicine' spirit!) it was a real holiday, especially somewhere in the Northen divisions, on Kalguev peninsular for instance). Lately, they substituted the pure spirit to 50/50 liquer with water named 'Massandra' in honor of the famous strong wine of Crimea))). Today's youth in Russia doesn't use as many spirtual drinks as former Soviet citizens, they wouldn't understand those glorious days ;(

[@bougaevaleksandr1450]

@@tarpattituopponen7783 P.S. Absolute pure alcohol is a 95 % mixture with water. If higher, it turns to the gas.

[@tarpattituopponen7783]

Bougaev Aleksandr I’ve seen 98% pure alcohol in a pharmacy. In Finland they use a substance that has the same boiling point than ethanol itself so it’s almost impossible to remove it without some kind of a reverse osmosis or other very expensive technique. Nowadays we buy our spirits from Alko which is the state official liquor store. Vodka bottle is 30€ but atleast you know that it’s good quality and safe.

[@harri9885]

Alcohol.

[@petrusinvictus3603]

The man, thank for your service for Finland, needs a helmet. I mean for the olden glory days...

[@Favk21]

I'm an Finnish amateur photographer who goes to local airshows on regular basis. As soon as he told that he was flying Fouga Magister, I knew I had taken pictures of him. How much this guy loves flying? See for yourself: www.flickr.com/photos/deepred2/30397412278/in/photostream/lightbox/

[@skogling]

Thank you!

[@Aircrewinterview]

You’re welcome

[@TekAutomatica]

Great stuff, just get interviewer volume up!

[@Aircrewinterview]

Cheers. I now have a microphone for myself for future interviews.

[@BappisonaB]

"its like a church stool" lol lol

[@jdesmo1]

interested to find how the engine was started ? what kind of starting system they had on the Draken? Thanks

[@KarriKoivusalo]

It had a monopropellant turbine starter, running on isopropyl nitrate. That thing fired up *fast* if need be.

[@ioannispoulakis9084]

Born to fly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Теплый-ф5ю]

Very interest.

[@miisu]

A cool guy.