HDR 50 vs Ballistic Dummy

[@AirgunAlley]

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[@OGKG71]

Looked up on etsy for the arrows . Not showing on site .

[@kairoward7738]

so the spikes penetrated directly?

[@dennismabrey3607]

0:38

[@dennismabrey3607]

50cal.pistol

[@dennismabrey3607]

50cal. Airgun pistol

[@joeyhobbs6034]

As a person with a bullshit felony this is a must for home defense without getting jammed up for protecting you and yours!

[@lolk4530]

Hopefully the air gun industry will one day start making lethal self protection weapons that can go toe to toe with a firearm at close range. Our forefathers did it with the girandoni air rifle so I don't see why a company couldn't do it now.

[@wintermetalhd]

@@lolk4530 Then they'll be lumped in with firearms and the leftists will take them away.

[@EDIFYTILLIDIE]

absolutely. good loophole. I carry mine every single day with devastators, 3 loads, and 4 c02s. Los Angeles. Only aim for the face or eyes. Creates major shock trauma.

[@joeyhobbs6034]

@@EDIFYTILLIDIE I got some wolf ammo killer hornets pretty gnar. You had any real experience with yours yet?

[@EDIFYTILLIDIE]

@@joeyhobbs6034 as far as internet storytelling goes I’d just recommend always have a fresh c02, never pin it until you need to, and aim for the face. No matter how close you are. If you want to see what devastators do IRL some idiot on KZbin offered his leg as a target… deep puncture, bearing had to be dug out. Still, aim for the face.

[@juanfrank8920]

The steel ball to the skull was interesting I was surprised wasn't expecting that much penetration! The arrows were very impressive!

[@AirgunAlley]

It was but I’ll tell you what… I just finished shooting it with my HDR 68 and 😱 … skull and blood everywhere! Stay tuned for that one! And hopefully the arrows next. Thanks a lot my friend!

[@juanfrank8920]

@@AirgunAlley Your welcome 👍

[@robertdore9592]

The aluminium balls were a revelation to me.

[@ottonormal3354]

@@robertdore9592 higher speed and lighter mass by the same pressure square as the steel balls. I was shocked with the arrows... i have the lil brother of the HDR50 for my Airsoft weekends. ^^ MAybee i get me the HDR50 for fun.

[@indiana146]

Yep I'm having one also the sawn off shotgun

[@gwiyomikim5988]

If an air gun was good enough for the Lewis & Clark expedition in 1804, the modern ones are worth a closer look.👍🏼

[@CryHavocWarDog]

I'm a convicted felon from a fight resulting in serious bodily injury 7 years ago, so I'm always looking for alternatives for home defense. I went with the option that was good enough for Wild Bill Hickock, a replica 1851 Navy black powder revolver.

[@TheFreshPeddler]

they also had firearms but the Giradoni could fire lead balls on repeat with a muzzle velocity of 1000 fps. modern big bore air rifles can take big game but theres a big difference between indians with bows and arrows and armed scumbags.

[@keithhampton9700]

The Lewis and Clark's. air rifle out perform black powder guns made at that time.

[@phredphlintstone6455]

Could fire about as fast as a bolt action too. 20 rounds. So I guess its "high capacity" though it's not a magazine but a tube.

[@snozcocram]

That Lewis and Clark gun was made by the Dutch and had tech way ahead of its time. Like Schrader valves, before Schrader. The air tank was cast iron but drenched in led making it impermeable. I held that gun owned now by Dr. Beeman - of the same BB gun maker. It was incredibly well made.

[@living-wellon-less5669]

Change to a 17 joule valve and use the solid steel balls, it won't kill but if you hit someone in the head with it they will be getting crayons for Christmas for the rest of their life!

[@neonnex9557]

Thats crazy 😭🙏

[@mrxquest7783]

@Oldboy1978 I knew it’s capable of killing

[@Destroymaster100]

the grimburg gavle is 40 joule

[@AustintxweirdO78745RGC]

Lol th as now that's a good one 😆 🤣 😂

[@INWORLDANIMAL]

How is change bro? I have 7.5 joule

[@okoll27]

In the USA during my concealed carry class the instructor teaches you that anyone within 27 feet with a knife out is in range of you to use deadly force without a second thought

[@grimeyhonkyracing3938]

Absolutely correct, that's why cops keep that distance between them and a suspect and won't even cuff them facedown until backup has sights on, usually.

[@Rednova08]

You must be fun at BBQs

[@danewood2309]

Yep, In the "under 20 feet" scenario British and USA Military stats say the knife wielder will be successful 95% of the time , unless the firearm is already drawn with safety off

[@madmaxthemotomutt6464]

I’m obsessed with air guns, they are coming a long way. My first was a break barrel 30cal by hatsan, I’ve also picked up the sig virtus 22 and an avenger in .25

[@mechaman1113]

I also have an avenger in .25. I love the power I can get from it.

[@boerbeun]

No blitz?

[@madmaxthemotomutt6464]

@@boerbeun i should own one but really can’t justify it!

[@alexithymia6288]

It's unfortunate that better self-defense options are pretty limited outside the US. Looks like I'd go with those lightweight aluminum rounds if I had to use one of these, as it was able to damage the skull which was surprising. Only real issue with this is that you essentially have to be hitting headshots to do any significant damage. Fortunately, firearms are legal in most of the States, but again this seems decent for those in areas where that's not possible.

[@drew8570]

Yeah, the US is cooler, if you don't have kids. It is NOT a good place to have a family. You never know when they won't come home. In America, our laws protect corporations, but not our people. We are averaging more than one mass shooting a day here. Literally.

[@ryanfortin9166]

Idk where you are but I'm in Canada. Pretty easy to get an 80lb pistol crossbow that those arrows he's using are actually for

[@alexithymia6288]

@@ryanfortin9166 I live in the States, so I carry a 9mm subcompact pistol on the daily. Bad part about arrows/bolts is you only get 1 shot, but 1 is better than nothing I suppose. Think I'd probably go with 6 of the aluminum rounds over 1 arrow though if I had to pick

[@coldspring22]

The reason for these "less lethal" air guns is you might need something between harsh words and extremely lethal like 12 gague loaded with buckshots/slugs. I consider HDR50 to be good complement to my 12 gauge for home defense.

[@alexithymia6288]

@@coldspring22 Shotguns are great for that specific reason actually. If the verbal warning doesn't work, first round is a beanbag, if that isn't enough the next one's bird shot which probably won't kill the bad guy but will hurt real bad, and then if they still haven't given up it's buckshot for the rest of the tube. Can't say an attempt wasn't made to dissuade the attacker without killing them in that case

[@iyeetsecurity922]

I don't have their contact info, but the two lurkers on two separate occasions that I shot in the head (one in the back, one near the temple) with this from ~10 and 15 yards away) that needed taken to the hospital can attest that this little hand cannon does its job well. Ammo is pretty easy to make yourself too. I made a silicone mold and my ammo is hot glue with steel BB's of varying sizes.

[@AirgunAlley]

Hahahahaha if you had your lurkers’ contacts - now that would’ve been something! And finally a first hand experience. Double experience!! Thanks for sharing man, hope them creeps stay away from now on…

[@iyeetsecurity922]

@@AirgunAlley Haven't had anyone dumb enough to come around in a bit over a year now. With all the warning signs and motion lights I figured that be enough, but stupids are gonna stupid. I wish I had my cameras installed at the time. Maybe after I get my Umarex HDX 68.

[@sheehan102]

Yo this is mad haha

[@iyeetsecurity922]

@@darkfarfetch3664 You're really bad at forming a sentence.

[@flipnap2112]

@Darkfarfetch or like many how the stories are so comments

[@richiehoyt8487]

I'm told it's a (relatively) simple matter to mod these pistols up to their full potential since they are basically built that way at the factory and then throttled back... It'd be interesting to see a video of yours where you investigate the possibilities, for those of us who want to give our, umm, _teddy bears_ a tough day at the office!

[@airgunballistics1779]

Yep.. There is a valve block that just needs to be removed and the power basically doubles..

[@richiehoyt8487]

@@airgunballistics1779 Thanks for the 'S/P', Mate.

[@airgunballistics1779]

@@richiehoyt8487 Ill make a video demonstration of this process in the near future.. Ive already purchased the power kit 😈

[@AirgunAlley]

Thanks so much man! I owe you a beer!! 🙌🏼

[@richiehoyt8487]

@@airgunballistics1779 subscribed! (and to be fair, I only discovered you in the last little while... 😀)

[@rogercave8245]

The aluminium balls seem to be the most damaging ammo with the exception of the arrows which are as expected, absolutely deadly, excellent video!

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you so much and absolutely spot on! In fact, he video I made right after this one - with the HDR 68 - confirms those aluminum balls are truly the best ammo

[@rogercave8245]

@@AirgunAlley They are almost completely sold out in Europe so absolutely must be! I managed to secure some though.

[@theaverageguy3884]

What was the name of them aluminium balls ? I need to order from over sea 😊

[@rogercave8245]

@@theaverageguy3884 you'll need to ask airgun alley Miami for the link.

[@davidgoodnow269]

​@@theaverageguy3884 0.5" / 12.7 mm aircraft-grade aluminum ball bearings, most easily and economically purchased at any gear and bearing shop.

[@cidpusa700]

That arrow and BB buckshot is a real homedefence weapon need to get my hands on these. Awesome impressive video.

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you very much!!

[@illupodellevolpi8470]

After an incident on Wednesday I've been looking at these as options for my world. I've decided to settle on the .50 cal model. I'm buying a power kit as well as several different ammo types. These videos as well as Kentucky Ballistics review have helped me feel comfortable with this purchase. As someone who can't get pepper balls or anything of the sort thanks to Canada's laws this was my next bet. The devastator rounds are definitely going on the list as well as several rubber steel balls. 1 R/S, 1 Dev. That way if you don't change your mind the first time I can double tap you to enforce the idea.

[@AirgunAlley]

Glad my videos were helpful to you my friend! Good choice, I would also think about something pointy/with spikes just to be complete. Wishing you the best and I hope that Wednesday’s incident will never repeat itself 🤞🏽

[@illupodellevolpi8470]

@Airgun Alley Miami I would run spikes if it wasn't so messy. I love the concept but pass through is a big fear.

[@austinrodriguez164]

You should just move out of Canada and move to a red state

[@illupodellevolpi8470]

@@austinrodriguez164 that's the dream

[@mrgreenbudz37]

What does the power kit do in FPS upgrade?

[@jan_phd]

I carry outside, but not in the house. In my house I have a HDR50 in a ready position. It's a very nice air gun that has boosted pressure.

[@joesolo7719]

I live in Los Angeles, and do the opposite. I carry any one of my firearms inside my house, but I use a less lethal co2 launcher outside the house which I conceal carry. Due to California laws we are unable to CC in public

[@Gator-357]

The arrows were interesting. I make my own ammo with hot glue and buckshot that does a pretty good job. I also upped the capacity on the regulator to about 18 joules, which makes a big difference in performance. It eats the CO2 carts like candy now but the increased power is well worth it. I have a friend with amachone shop and he makes me different bullets from aluminum, brass, copper ans steel. He came up with some devastating designs.

[@ZaneBerry1992]

Do you live in england or something?

[@ZaneBerry1992]

Buy a gun lol

[@jerichosamurai]

I kinda like the idea of non-firearm defense capable weapons. It's like some shit you'd find in Cyberpunk. That Aluminium shot was fairly impressive.

[@AirgunAlley]

Absolutely! In my book not all situations require deadly force… thanks man

[@roxasparks]

Its a firearm regarless of propulsion methods

[@jerichosamurai]

@@roxasparks That's not how that works. By that logic a crossbow is a firearm.

[@done3960]

I shot my girlfriend with a wadded up piece of paper through a straw. I'm now doing 20 to life because it is a "firearm."

[@done3960]

@@roxasparks Where's the fire?

[@ricardopoloni414]

He always gives the measures in both systems, imperial and metric. Thank you because in Brazil we use metric system and Celsius for temperature. Nice video.

[@AirgunAlley]

🙏🏽🙌🏼

[@tommyvercetti3348]

Ive punched through a stop sign with the devestator rounds

[@AirgunAlley]

🙌🏼

[@keysofperception4377]

I don't understand all the people who say that air guns are useless for self defense. Like wtf if you can shoot holes into a stop sign with it do you realize what damage you can do to a human if you shoot them? Metal is much sturdier than a human body. Let that sink in.

[@VastardokKukiao]

​@@keysofperception4377cap there are no tests that prove what this guy is saying

[@RS-xq6je]

​@@VastardokKukiaoif its written in a comment its true

[@simsreject5925]

I don't think the drug dealers in the alley behind my house cared that they got shot with an air gun, but they ran away really quick and haven't come back.

[@INSIDETHEMATRYX]

I've been saying for the past 3 yrs....these things a very effective at 20 ft or closer! My edc is the hdr 50 or the ppq 43. Great video bro

[@AirgunAlley]

Three years of being right my friend! Hahaha! Good choices and thank you very much as always!

[@adam_bbing]

but how likely are you to hit a good shot on the face/neck if someone is charging at you with a knife/gun.

[@scotthanna941]

Thanks!

[@brucekendall52]

The channel keeps getting better.Thanks.

[@AirgunAlley]

Oh man! I love hearing that, thank you so much as always Bruce!! 🙌🏼🙏🏽

[@humor62]

I Am Just Grateful for your educational videos! I am not in great health, and was looking for a self-defense plan for me and family .I watched many. many of your videos, and you thought me so much about what would won't and would be feasible to use in my 50 cal HRD. I know know what to load it with. I am ever grateful for you and your TOP-NOTCH Videos!!!

[@matrixmatico695]

Even air guns are illegal in Mexico and the USA keep arming the cartels. We could take care of cartels if a large numbers of citizens had access to air guns at least

[@SeuRafinha]

This happens in almost underdeveloped country controlled by populist governments such as Colombia, Brazil, Mexico. We are talking about narco countries, the first objective of govern is to disarm the population... make civilians weak so that drug trafficking and militias can take over and money flows

[@VastardokKukiao]

Lol you make it seem like it is a problem made by USA

[@segundacuenta726]

Crazy to imagine, people taking down cartels by themselves.

[@matrixmatico695]

@segundacuenta726 It was done in Michoacan . Autodefensas knew where they they lived and who they were...the leader of the movement was jailed. And later died because he didn't get medical care

[@MarioSantoro-ig5qh]

Its only illegal to import them without a permit but not to own or buy one thats already in the country. I live in Mexico.

[@3rdPerspectiveTV]

The 1st devestator went through the meat on top of skull. The 1st 9mm went through the meat on right side of skull...definitely a bad day for whoever. Those killer spikes look nasty aswell. Great video and great results with all ammo bro 👍

[@AirgunAlley]

Hey man, thanks so much!! Truth is, it was a very bad day for my aiming skills ahahaha but I wanted to make it as realist as possible, shoot fast and go with what I hit, instead of re-shooting my misses. And absolutely, as you said, even the ones that grazed by left a nice laceration. Painful stuff indeed! Did you see the video I shot the following week with the HDR 68? Now that really left a mark on our poor ballistic guy! Thanks again and I love your name, guess I’m a Less Lethal Dad too :)

[@unebonnevie]

Amazing what round types the TR50 can take!

[@montizzlefoshizzle7131]

Firearms shoot bullets, Airguns shoot pellets and slugs. They're both guns, they're both weapons, they're both deadly. A weapon is just that, A weapon..

[@Americanviking82]

Couldn't get more spelled out than that. 👍

[@kasperribera4574]

Nah, theres funs that dont shoot bullets and you can shoot plastic wrapped bullets out of some airguns

[@jedgurley]

Not a toy.. I think that's enough lol

[@mementomori3915]

I have the hdp50 not the revolver with a modified disc that I only get 5 or 6 really hard shots per 12g CO2. With the steel ball bearings it will go thru 1/4 " paneling no problem. I have also experimented with many different types of ammo home made and otherwise. The glass slingshot ammo works good but aren't consistent in size and must be muzzle loaded because they don't cycle. Same with the steel ball bearings.

[@greenman360]

I'm surprised the arrows went that deep from 20 feet away. Any closer and it's a through and through, and that's even more fatal. Nothing stuck in to help stop bleeding. Might be a good "last line of defense" option, but I wouldn't ever want to use it as a primary, for several reasons. Presumably only going to get one shot, and it's likely that one shot will be fatal if it lands. If you want fatal, there are a lot of better options. Aluminum round balls seem to hit pretty good for a less lethal option, tho.

[@AirgunAlley]

I agree with you all around! Funny how we’re navigating on the thin line between lethal and non-lethal. One thing I want to try, once I’ll finally make a video dedicated to the arrows, is fast reloading, to see how long it takes between shots… good input my friend. Thank you

[@arielhermoso4262]

@@AirgunAlley The barrel of the hand gun should be removable, to accomodate an arrow magazine- loaded with 6 or 7 arrow shots.. To make such arrow very lethal: 1) Adjacent/ base of the arrowhead, wrapped around it a thin piece of foam, cotton bulk, etc... 2) Secure the same foam or cotton bulk with wrapped around cotton thread.. 3) Put some drops of "formalin solution"- untill the said cotton or foam become saturated with the solution.. 4) Others option for "dropping liquid" : 2. tablespoon full of laundry powder of "oxalic", "chlorine", "bleach", etc.- be dissolved with 1.tble spoonfull of water.. Stir it with a piece of stick untill a homogenous mixture of liquid solution resulted... 3) The final liquid solution, for used in soaking the cotton bulk or foam materials - located at the base of the arrowhead...

[@rachelbeard9151]

Awesome and very thorough tests on these ammos. Nice work, great data collection

[@AirgunAlley]

Glad you like them!

[@Boh_18]

@@AirgunAlley joules ?

[@done3960]

two (2) shots for each projectile? and the first shot always on the side of the target, and he couldn't find the projectiles for thse shots? awesome and thorough? c'mon; you're not that sheltered.

[@123catz]

Have you done any on the hdp50 after removing the valve block?

[@AirgunAlley]

You know? For some reason I never did the HDP! I never owned one, which is strange! Sorry I couldn’t help!

[@123catz]

@AirgunAlley no worries maybe one of these days. :(

[@123catz]

@AirgunAlley apparently it gives 6 good shots around 495 fps I put it through a pan. Get one and test it !!!

[@gj1234567899999]

For those who can’t have a firearm for home defense maybe the best option would be a crossbow. With this pistol right next to the crossbow for follow up shots. Followed by a cold steel buckler and gladius for last ditch defense.

[@_anshif879]

and a ballistic missile

[@rorschach723]

Yeah or pistol crossbow. Seen some nice compact ones from Joerg Spave. Even homemade rubber slingbows, made some before that were badass

[@theFormidable1]

@AirgunAlley there's a new HDR 50 gen 3 that puts out 13 joules, can you do a comparison vs the 11 joules version? I was wanting to pick one up

[@AirgunAlley]

I saw that! I’ll try to get one. In all honesty I’ve lost touch with the T4E world a bit. I need to dust off some old contacts ;)

[@theFormidable1]

@AirgunAlley yeah, there's so much more powerful airguns that's why, I understand, but incase you didn't know there's also alot of hype with the Salt S2 20 joules maybe you can also do a review on that too, thanks bro

[@AirgunAlley]

@@theFormidable1 thank YOU for all the heads up! I really appreciate that. Will look into the Salt S2 as well, I heard of it :) Thanks again

[@airgunballistics1779]

Amazing video but you kept hitting the same spot or missing completely it was driving me crazy 😆

[@AirgunAlley]

Hahaha hey man, I’m mimicking a real life scenario ;) I decided not to correct (or reshoot my misses) on purpose. But you’re right, it’s pretty nerve-wreaking! Hope to do better this the HDR 68!

[@airgunballistics1779]

@@AirgunAlley you are a real one 😎

[@EddieLeal]

0:21 Jesus, Maria y Jose! 😍 Good lord! I don't blame you brother. That nurse would stop traffic let alone a frail human heart. At first I thought the doctor was going to be playing both roles and come out in a wig and nurses uniform 😉😆

[@henrik1205]

Thank you for another great video :D It really gives you an idea about how effective the HDR50 is...

[@someonethatisachristian]

one of the most useful videos ive seen in a long time in the self defence world, i think these kind of guns are the best that has happened in the area of self defence since the first revolvers, this enables anyone to defend themselves efficiently without killing

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you so much my friend! 🙌🏼

[@poppadon448]

Love your content. Informational and entertaining. I just got my HDR .68 cal last week. Still awaiting on my Home Wrecker Strum Balls 8gr. 💪🏾🇺🇲

[@AirgunAlley]

Niice!! Oh you’ll love it! Let us know what you think once you play around with it. And thank you so much 🙏🏽🙌🏼

[@DarkLordDiablos]

Regardless of how deadly each different round was, the pain inflicted from each would be enough to deter any would be home invasionist from progressing past the point of contact with the home owner which is the main outcome to begin with. Saying that though, you can certainly feel the pain the dummy would be in after taking each shot so the idea of using a Air Pistol for home defence instead of a firearm certainly has its merits and would make for a ideal option for anyone with children who are worried about the possibilities of accidents especially with the variety of loads shown here.

[@universallaw8850]

A person hopped up strong dope could possibly keep coming if shot placement isn't perfect and especially if heavy clothing is worn now those darts were a totally different story.

[@charlottesmom]

@@universallaw8850 We live in a safe area so I feel safe with my future non lethal purchase, my husband however wants a “real gun”….😂

[@universallaw8850]

@@charlottesmom would you bet your life on non lethal defense measures?

[@charlottesmom]

@@universallaw8850 I think I have to because I wouldn’t handle a lethal gun except for practice at our gun safety class. The non lethal I’ve been looking at can do some major damage, enough to stop someone in their tracks.

[@universallaw8850]

@@charlottesmom well the best of luck to you hopefully we will never find out if kess than lethal works in a serious self defense situation. Take care

[@TylerGamer765]

Ok so the arrows did do the job. Them aluminum balls were no joke either. Still would like to see the 9mm a few more times. Also surprised by the mini buckshot. I might have to get one of these for my godson who ain’t old enough for a true pistol but everyone deserves home protection. This works.

[@4EverAwake]

I have a gamo airgun that fires hollow point at .25mm faster than a slug almost 1000fps. It makes a .22 rifle look like a bb gun. It's my baby. Silent death is what I call her

[@charlottesmom]

Yikes, remind me to not sneak into your house. 😆👍🏻

[@DanielRyan-m8y]

.25 cal. Not MM. That would be a large round.

[@jedgurley]

I believe what you need for ammo is the correct mass for the short barrel. The aluminum pellets worked scary good but i bet you can fine tune the mass to optimize performance

[@151pyroblaze]

Btw guys in the USA it’s a TR50. In euro country’s it’s the HDR50 :) just in case any ones confused

[@AirgunAlley]

Hi my friend! Hehe it’s actually the opposite (TR50 in the US and HDR50 in Europe), but yes the difference in names is quite confusing 🙄

[@151pyroblaze]

@@AirgunAlley oh dam it hahah

[@EddieLeal]

Having a small metal detector probe may help in locating those pesky small projectiles embedded in the gel skull.

[@AirgunAlley]

That’s not a bad idea. Later when I finally destroyed it - it had lot of “shrapnel” inside of it!

[@sven471111]

Wow, these arrows are better than expected...and it's just 11j. If the nurse has a sister I think to stay a week in hospital 🤣🤣🤣 It's always nice to see the intro. You have a real creativity for that and it brings much joy and fun to the community. Thanks for enlighten our days a bit.

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you so much Sven! I’m so glad you enjoyed it and unfortunately all the sisters are married already! The good ones get taken fast 😂 I’ll be doing a video exclusively on the arrows soon, I’m very much looking forward to it! Thank you again my friend!

[@sven471111]

@@AirgunAlley yeah, the good ones are gone quickly, too bad. I look forward then to the next arrow video. Do you think these work also fine in the HDS? In .68 of course. Guess muzzle loading in the hdx/HDB is not the real fun and takes too long in case.

[@mtrccrawler6300]

I’d like to see if you can make a video showing how fast and how effective pepper balls fired .50 cal followed up with semi automatic pellet pistol! Would it stop someone effectively??

[@AirgunAlley]

Hello friend! That is a very specific request :) but here’s a video I made on how effective pepper balls are… PEPPER BALLS 50 & 68 cal • Jaw-Droppers kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4a5Z4x8rtFol7s

[@Colorado303Adventures]

The only airguns you need for self defense are the Byrna SD and the Air Defender V2 with .357 Nielson Specialty Hollow Point Ammo and a NoMad 2 Air compressor. That's what's up, can disable anyone or use lethality if necessary. Options for all Scenarios. Add in a Byrna Backpack with fast deploy and your ready for a warzone.

[@johnlove6194]

Can you do a test on the effectivity of the different blank cartridge as defense tool in small homes?

[@TheHamburgerInspector]

video starts at 7:13

[@krisorendorff]

I've never heard of this kind of "weapon".... I could use one of those. Where's the best place to acquire one???? And, can you conceal carry these, legally?? (Illinois)

[@AirgunAlley]

Hey Kris, you can buy them online here: 🔫 HDR50/TR50 (11 joules) Amazon: amzn.to/38PYPR8 Ebay: ebay.us/nNMPu2 As for the legality in Illinois, you’ll have to check. These fall under the air gun category. Here in Florida (the Gunshine State) the only regulation is that you have to be 16 to own one. Nothing else. Best of luck

[@OrbitalPirate]

Great channel, and very informative. Could you do another one that deals with even more realistic situations, like wearing a ski mask and sunglasses or a ticker hoodie, maybe even some jackets from 2 different distances, 10 and 20 feet? Which ammo would be most effective for stopping and deterring?

[@AirgunAlley]

Hello my friend and thank you very much! I’ll do my best to add some clothing and protection to my future targets. I’ve done several videos in the past with mannequins wearing sunglasses and hoodies, but it’s also good to keep adding these features in my videos. Thanks for the input 🙏🏽

[@marcovelasco4599]

I have a question I have a Walther ppq t4e Pepper ball gun Do I need a permit to carry that gun in Florida? Please let me know

[@AirgunAlley]

Hi Marco, I would triple check this, just in case. But the answer should be yes. Airguns are not regulated at all in Florida and you can carry them pretty much anywhere you want (only thing, you must be over 16 years old$

[@marcovelasco4599]

@@AirgunAlley Sr. I’m a little bit confused In other words according to your answer I need a concealed carry permit to carry this pepper ball gun ?

[@David-j9c1s]

You don't need a permit or background check for air guns, but some towns have ordinances against pellet guns, paintball guns. In my hometown ( Chapel Hill, N Carolina),it's illegal to shoot any compressed air gun in town limits.

[@brandontheoh3647]

@9:00 he’s concussed and got some frontal lobe damage and now he’s randomly cursing for no reason

[@AirgunAlley]

Hahahaha

[@patmccaffery1543]

Don't take 2 suitcases with you on holiday....you're bound to lose one of them 😂😂

[@MexicoAdventurer]

Though there are others who do a video or 2 about the HDR50, you're the only one who consistently tests and explores them. I've learned more about this non-lethal from you than I have from anyone else, and I'm talking with my friendly contact at SEDENA about the legality of owning one of these in Mexico. I will be sure to update you on the laws and facts about this because the laws are extreme in Mexico regarding gun and airgun ownership. I have many legal guns and airguns and compound bows here, but I researched the laws thoroughly before becoming a weapon owner here. I know your videos are US based, but the HDR is sold in many countries. Maybe one day you can do a video about legality of the HDR50 in other countries. I can help you with some research. I live in Italy, too. I can check European Union laws, Mexico, Belize. Honduras. Guatemala etc...

[@AviaryAviles159]

I think it’s 14J max in Mx

[@MexicoAdventurer]

@@AviaryAviles159 Not true. My Hatsan Blitz .25 with the right slug is 140 joules. And it's perfectly legal here. In fact, I can Legally have an AEA Zeus. 72 caliber (12 guage rifle with 1600 fpe) here. With, of course, a permit from SEDENA. I actually have one on order.

[@AirgunAlley]

Very good points! I know the laws regarding these things are in general very fluid and often change. I also think that they’ll soon be more regulated all around as the demand for less-lethal continues to grow and brands continue developing more and more powerful, real looking air guns with a ‘Home Defense’ purpose. Thanks for your research and input. Very good idea indeed!

[@mk6315]

You’ll have good performance from the gas with the ambient temps in Mexico too

[@MexicoAdventurer]

@M K We are about 6,300 feet elevation at my house. The temps are hotter this year than last year's summer already, and we haven't had rain since over a year ago. Arid desert clime. Temps are hanging at 80° to 87° every. All my pellet guns pop with power here, and even my (legal) powder burners seem to do better. The humidity stays between 5% and 25% here. At my house in Texas, the humidity stays at about 90% and it does affect how airguns shoot. The temperatures are starting to get hot hot, and dailies will see 105° at 2 PM until 4 PM every day.

[@boowiebear]

Interesting results. Seems accuracy and penetration are really lacking. Curious if there are higher power options.

[@AirgunAlley]

There are! Try this one :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHPHoIycipqKfq8

[@f.xavier1842]

J'aime beaucoup les tests et les comparatifs que tu réalises... 👍

[@AirgunAlley]

Merci beaucoup mon ami! 🙌🏼

[@dackbowland1876]

Eat the rich!! Don’t waste your money on this one though, unfortunately the airguns that can help you are expensive. Look up AEA .45 And edgun leshiy .30 Good luck to you. Hopefully a difference can be made before the Russian nuclear terrorists end all life on earth.

[@danielross5292]

I wonder if those kinds of Airguns are legal to Buy in My Australia Too?🤔

[@AirgunAlley]

Good question! I don’t get much feedback from your beautiful country, so I really don’t know…

[@David-j9c1s]

Google Australia gun laws, but the UK & Australia have really restrictive laws.

[@TheTurkicCc]

Go for the cartoids. It would be more effective

[@brianpark5629]

Is it possible to purchase a HDR direct with a joules greater than 11.

[@grimreaper0432]

Defense innovation just came out with a 13 j tr50 with a Lazer built into the laucher

[@AirgunAlley]

It’s true. What he said :)

[@stuartmccloud307]

hey man, your channel is getting better and better every time. Keep it up dude, you got great content :)

[@AirgunAlley]

Hey Stuart, can’t thank you enough! I truly appreciate it 🙏🏽

[@KobeWilson-xk5wf]

The arrow test is more than lethal ☠️

[@thoughtful_criticiser]

Unfortunately I live in a country that is anti gun, we are only allowed air weapons with minimal power, unless you can get a firearms certificate. The HDR 50 is an arms reach from me at night loaded with rubber steel balls and an unpierced new CO2 cylinder. I used to have a 1911 .45 I am easily capable of plucking the eyes of an intruder at 20 feet, I hope I never have to but I sleep easily knowing I can.

[@hbmustangs]

how would you pierce in the moment?

[@chefdarrylcabrera1823]

Hello awesome video, where did you get the part that goes in the cylinder that keeps it from turning, thank you

[@AirgunAlley]

Hi my friend, that part is made by CODODO and it comes with the arrows :)

[@MexicoAdventurer]

Gotta love these skits. That's your wife, I assume? Lucky man. I got lucky, too. I married a beauty here in Mexico 11 years ago just before I retired, who is 16 years younger than me. Nobody believes I'm almost 60 years old when I tell them. I said it's my young wife... keeps me young. Maybe I'll live 150 years? 🤣

[@AirgunAlley]

Hahahaha sounds like we’re both children trapped in older men’s bodies! Bless our wives for keeping us the teenagers we really are! And muchas gracias my friend!

[@mcs914]

Damn that's a crazy ass non lethal arrow fired at 11 joules 😂😂😂😂 lit

[@MrCh1lll]

Awesome video brother 💪💪💪⚔️Regards from Tenerife ⚔️🙏❤️

[@AirgunAlley]

Muchas gracias amigo!! 🙏🏽🙌🏼

[@someonethatisachristian]

Arrows isnt even an option for me, besides that, none of these look lethal (which is good), it looks perfect with devastators!

[@AirgunAlley]

I love your view on the less lethal world!

[@elguapo1507]

In the words of Evil Roy Slade..."I love that toot toot sound!" 😂

Muito bruto o trabucão, bela demostração👏👏

[@emmanueldlm822]

Hi, can you add a new link to buy the arrows I can't find them

[@AirgunAlley]

Hi Emmanuel, at the moment you can only get them from the website, which is safe and guaranteed :) Have fun! www.cododo.shop/en/shop

[@hermanpieterse791]

Great video! I have the hdr 50 and 68. This video was very useful. ❤

[@AirgunAlley]

Thank you so much Herman!! Very happy you found it useful and enjoy your HDRs!!!

[@MrJoeygregory]

How far back were you set for the back? The harder the impact. I have a 22 pellet rifle that will put pallet slugs through a piece of plywood. They're huge heavy. Travel a lot slower than alloy pellets but they are tack drivers

[@jj-zy6gc]

E=MC2. You could take someone’s head off with a cotton ball.

[@fluttershy77x]

Can you make a test with 7.5J, which is what we can use in Germany?

[@AirgunAlley]

If I get a 7,5 joules I will :) Now I don’t have one… sorry!

[@kelalamusic9258]

Loved this one. Great idea to use a ballistic dummy. Is it possible to get a dummy torso, as that is what most people might shoot at if a perp enters their home? Considering the effect of those projectiles, I thought that if one of mine don't stop the perp, perhaps I could flash him 🤔. It's quite possible that he will be subjected to uncontrollable laughter which will give me ample opportunity to exit 😜. By the way, you have a very pretty nurse on your staff. Lucky bugger you 😉.

[@AirgunAlley]

Hahaha flashing is always the best form of home/self defense, I truly believe that 😂 And oh did I get lucky with my pretty (and awesome all around) nurse 😍

[@kelalamusic9258]

@@AirgunAlley yep, you sure did. better than winning the lottery. Well . . . maybe not. Just kidding. Treasure her!!

[@michaelcastro5339]

That piece in the middle of the magazine that turns it is called an indexer.

[@AirgunAlley]

Ah! Nice, thanks a lot for that Michael! Very helpful to know indeed

[@JagoTFC]

Is that skull performing like a real skull? 11J with aluminium BB are advertised as glass breakers.

[@AirgunAlley]

It should be! Ballistic Dummy Lab products are used by law enforcement and other institutions alike. And yes, they’ll break glass o’right hahaha

[@wiseferret4745]

Bones have varying densities. The ballistics dummy has more of a medium strength skull. Keep in mind that some people's bones can be stronger than concrete while other people's bones can be brittle like glass.

[@al5563]

Doctor, saludos a la bella esposa.

[@AirgunAlley]

Gracias amigo! ❤️

[@edim108]

Air guns are worth considering especially in places like where I live where it's unreasonably hard and expensive to get the permit for a firearm. Vast majority of air guns sold for home defense are rebranded paintball markers but that has an upside- you can tune them up quite a bit. From factory most of these markers are well bellow 17 joules but if you tune them right you can go to 60 or even over 80 joules and that is enough to be seriously painful. It's still very much non lethal and not a replacement for a firearm, but an option worth considering for people who can't get a firearm for one reason or another. Plus shooting them is a really fun pass time and .43 cal balls are a LOT cheaper than actual bullets and you can have a full auto marker for a bit extra fun on top :)

[@pauloalves797]

olike eo 786

[@AirgunAlley]

🙌🏼

[@sherryauble7577]

I’m new at this. Which semi automatic air pistol and ammo should I use for home safety. With everything happening in the world, especially in Colorado, I want something powerful to protect myself.

[@antoninogerbino4074]

GK1 .25, 50 gr slugs

[@David-j9c1s]

The HDR 50 is good, also air pistol valves can be modified to increase power.

[@bryancantrell1138]

Hello again from Key West. Love the introduction. I have the same Hdr50 in 11 Jules from Defense innovation with their light/laser combo. Nice to see what the Devestators do.I keep them loaded in mine. I started trying the light solid nylon balls lately, serious damage on Rubbermaid trash can. Curious about on your ballistic dummy. Thanks again.

[@AirgunAlley]

Hello my friend from down there and thank you! The solid nylon balls are great! You get a ton for cheap and they’re great for practicing! While keeping the Devastators for more important situations! Glad you liked it and thanks again!

[@ertugrultayran7087]

Will Ekol p66 power test come?

[@chadanderson123]

Besides appearances and weight, what's the difference between the hdr 50 and the hdp 50?

[@AirgunAlley]

I’d say the main difference is that the HDR is a revolver and so you can load any shape of projectile, as long as it fits. The HDP only allows you to shoot round balls….

[@margarettaylor601]

Stupid question , I wonder if those arrows would work under water as it is compressed air ? M

[@AirgunAlley]

That is a great question! I don’t know if the water will allow the gun to shoot to be honest 🤔 hopefully someone that already tried will tell us!

[@southernyankeecustomuphols5480]

i HAVE 50 CAL dRAGONClaw... love it. 230 ft/lb or 311 joules... It also shoots arrow/bolts.. Problem is, it buries the bolts in anything I have tried.. solid rounds 185 gr... its one of my favorite air rifles!

[@AirgunAlley]

Absolutely! Mine too! So far…

[@corsicaliberta6823]

hello friend thank you for the video, cododo arrows are huge. What do you recommend between the hdr50 and the hds 68. Ease of use pepper balls and arrows. Easier to reload arrows with the hds 68? 2 shots is enough for hds 68 if I alternate 2 pepper balls / 2 arrows?

[@AirgunAlley]

Hi my friend and sorry for my late reply! Good question. With the HDR 50 if you decide to shoot arrows, you can only shoot arrows, because you need to remove the central rotating piece of the magazine. But it should be quick to reload. The HDS 68 is a bit weak, but gives you a lot of room to alternate ammo. I’ll be testing the cododo arrows on the HDR 50 and HDS 68 very soon - if you’re not in a hurry, let’s see what comes out of those tests. Hopefully you’ll get a clearer idea afterwords…

[@corsicaliberta6823]

@@AirgunAlley Hi no worries. I just ordered the HDS68 this morning ^^. More fun, more mel gibson ^^, and as you said we can put several ammunition. I took it with Devastator bullets and I made German ammunition with nails as you tested. I should receive it at the end of the week I will tell you my feelings. It's really to shoot in the garden for defense I use the Piexon JPX4

[@corsicaliberta6823]

@@AirgunAlley I also wanted to congratulate you for your videos and your humor I love. as well as your life course, very good person. and also for nurse 😇😇 . Keep it up and I'm looking forward to the video with the cododo arrows for HDS68 💪💪🙏🙏

[@brenfrees2812]

Seems the aluminum ammo is the best all around, enlighten me if you feel i I'm incorrect trying to learn

[@AirgunAlley]

Yessir! That’s what I’ve found as well. To date.

[@baldevis]

One of the potential problems I anticipate with this sort of weapon is that you're not supposed to keep it laying around with the CO2 cartridge already loaded because the pressure will dissipate over time. So if you need it in a hurry, you have to take the time to load the cartridge in an emergency...not ideal. Am I wrong about this?

[@AirgunAlley]

Hi and thanks. Yes, this gun has a quick piercing valve. So the CO2 remains sealed until the moment of need, at which you bump the piercing valve and the CO2 is freshly released. So you can leave it years without using it and it’ll always be ready to go….

[@toddcooper2563]

My city ordinance allows pellet guns being fired in town as long as it's on your own property, so I purchased a Crosman Nitro Venom .177 break-barrel for controlling critters in my garden. It's surprisingly powerful and while sighting in the scope, it was actually going through ¾" OSB. The problem is it has the wood stock and with the scope it looks too real at a glance. That, and with a lighter pellet, it sounds like a .22 rimfire going off and it sometimes attracts unwanted attention. Pellet guns are leaps and bounds more advanced than what I grew up with. But as far as home defense goes with a CO2 pistol, you had best make damn sure the first shot is true and accurate because you'll likely end up getting yourself killed by a highly pissed off intruder. For home invasion defense, I wouldn't go with ANYTHING LESS than a short barreled .410 shotgun.

[@renevargas9571]

hey bud, where can I find that buckshot with 7 bbs inside?

[@AirgunAlley]

Hey there! So, it took me some time to get back to you as I’m trying to contact the maker. Sadly Ebay deleted all the ammo producers accounts. Some quit while others moved to selling on websites. I wrote the guys, but haven’t heard back yet. I’ll let you know as soon as I do..

[@QrisuMies]

How deep did the tiny spike go? Does these penetrate at all if the person is clothed?

[@AirgunAlley]

I actually found one later, well stuck behind the nasal septum. While the other one went deep into the face. I’m sure these will penetrate clothing, sure, maybe not a heavy jacket. But I’m also sure that the clothing would dramatically reduce the power of the spike, making it less penetrating to the skin…

[@ScottYdo]

Can you do a comparison with a sling shot? Steel ball bearings?!

[@chemicalbreath]

I have shot the arrows out of my 16 joules HDS 68. Pretty cool.

[@AirgunAlley]

Nice!! They are quite powerful alright!

[@owenthomas9863]

What do the arrows do over the chrony?

[@AirgunAlley]

Good question. I haven’t put them to the full test yet. Will do asap! Thanks Owen

[@MyMyself-yr5ks]

How many Jules of energy from this model?

[@antaeussnorik6790]

What was the distance from dummy?

[@williamdemarrais8318]

Do you think that TR50 needs a laser sight?

[@AirgunAlley]

I don’t think it changes much. I think the issue with this gun is the hard trigger, which destabilizes your shot. That’s my impression at least

[@richardcarlos1234]

Tried to purchase one says not ship in California.

[@AirgunAlley]

Try Modern Combat Sports… they are in California …

[@richardcarlos1234]

Thanks you check them out.

[@Z06ChevyVette]

Awesome video!!!! I didn’t know they made arrows for the hdr 68.🤙🏼🤜🏼🤛🏼🏆

[@AirgunAlley]

Oh yess! CODODO has incredible stuff in all calibers :) and thank you so much my friend!