500 Year Itch | Overly Sarcastic Productions: Journey To The West Part 2 Reaction

[@alexjewett7455]

You accidentally skipped over tripetaka's backstory, which is kind of important to explain why he was selected for this and why so many demons want to eat him.

[@seanmcfadden3712]

And the best part of that being Red depicting the spirit of Golden Cicada going RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEREEEEEEEEEERRR

[@project4061]

Was just about to say the same thing.

[@marocat4749]

The whole reincarnation and bla ba super pure and specian evn in orighn, why the demons want to eat him so much. Because it gives them , i fforgot but it is very great.

[@PixelPower0615]

Blah blah grandson of an emperor... Blah blah Moses to monkhood... Blah blah REEEEEEEEEEEEE...

[@pikadidi3279]

Fun fact! when Tripitaka is reciting the headache spell, the tiny text is Bohemian Rhapsody! This is gonna keep happening with different songs

[@allaniadall9686]

Really? I did not know that.

[@Zbot8577_]

Yeah, you'd be surprised how LITTLE the horse does for the most part, despite quite literally carrying the entire team.

[@mx.e2176]

Despite being a literal dragon

[@LukasJampen]

Most useless dragon in the history of dragons. Or at least good contender.

[@Zbot8577_]

@@LukasJampen Eeeh he did a few plot relevant things. But he was mostly usless lol

[@LukasJampen]

​@@Zbot8577_ considering in how much trouble they get in, the few times it does anything even slightly significant are almost negligible. That book is a thicc boy.

[@fang609]

Yeah.....Sure the horses role in the story is to be the allegorical representation of the Human Will but like....Things still a dragon, and humans with enough will power have done both incredible and fantastic things and others terrible distractive ones. So therefore the dam horse should have at least went "You know what time to join the fight" when ever it looked like things where not going too hot or Tripitaka needs to be protected/saved.

[@enlongjones2394]

15:28 fun fact: this frame is not hyperbole. The book actually describes how Wukong is *so angry* that stuff starts burning inside his head and smoke shoots out of his ears.

[@infiniteoctopaw]

I'm currently 400+ page's in. Nearly done volume 1. And honestly, not at all a dry read. It's REALLY good. VERY entertaining. Also when they first got attacked by bandits the bandits were like "give us your goods." Monkey: "aw look master! Some volunteers are looking to donate us close and travel money!" Tripitaka: "Wukong, are you deaf, their robbing us..." Monkey: *pulls out stick.* "Oh you sweet summer child~"

[@infiniteoctopaw]

Also, when the monk burns down the temple. Tripitaka wakes up, takes off the magic blanket. All around, he sees fire, smoke, people on fire running desperate trying to save things, or put themselves out. The air filled with cries and screaming. The fire is burning, so brilliant, it can be seen from 200 miles in all directions. lighting up the night sky. He is stunned and horrified. And then he sees Wukong is just... smiling at him. Eyes glowing red. "Good morning, Master~" I laughed for a sold minute. The readers have the full context. We know he didn't do anything (accept set the winds against them). But YEAH. This poor monk, trapped with the most SUS MF in all of ancient China.

[@thecount1510]

Fun Fact that other people have not noticed. This story teaches that murder is wrong (except in some scenarios) and that torturing others into compliance is perfectly fine, if they disobey you.

[@augustrempelewert4377]

To be fair, subjecting someone who single-handedly waged war on Heaven and would have won if not for the Buddha's intervention to a nasty headache for a few minutes in order to ensure that he'll listen when told not to murder people is not quite the same as, say, torturing your friends into letting you choose the movie for movie night. The moral of the first episode was that powerful individuals (who aren't the Big Good) must be dealt with carefully; you definitely don't want to provoke them, but they also need to have some sort of check on their power or else they'll make the world a frightening and miserable place for everyone else. That's what the thing is for: now there's finally a check on Monkey's power that doesn't require the most powerful being in the universe to personally intervene.

[@liamwhite3522]

The unchecked human mind can go to dark places, it is true. That's why taking control of it, through calming ritual chanting or other means of focus, is part of enlightenment.

[@nealenthenerd399]

It has also taught us that Monasteries are temporary but Drip is eternal.

[@marmyeater]

@@augustrempelewert4377 Actually, Sun couldn't have beaten the Jade Emperor. Everyone else, sure, but Jade E nope.

[@augustrempelewert4377]

@@marmyeater Seriously? He could've beaten Sun Wukong, but he instead chose to make everybody else fight the guy (and lose) on his behalf while he fussed ineffectually until eventually the Buddha himself had to intervene? That's disgusting. Characters who are fully capable of solving their problems on their own shouldn't be allowed to spend all of their screentime complaining. Is there at least a thing where the power he'd need to use to beat Sun would've had catastrophic consequences if he'd used it as anything but a last resort? Then he could maybe be excused.

[@ToaArcan]

"It's not that he's evil, he just goes into a dissociative state and commits atrocities!"

[@Shiobana753]

The leaves don't make him more immortal, they're meant to save him three times. I can't recall on if Sun ever uses them though.

[@marmyeater]

I think he does.

[@alexcurrie4514]

I think he uses one of them towards the end of the book. I'm almost certain it's sometime post six earred macaque.

[@user-cl6lw6rc1c]

He did, he used all of them at once, to make a drilling device, to get out of a bottle

[@DanGamingFan2406]

If you think this story is ludicrously deep and insane so far, buddy, you ain't seen nothing yet. And I have to mention how much the "enormous f*** you dragon" line got me laughing. Also, you accidentally skipped over Red Explaining that Xuanzang is "the sun of an emperor, has been raised as a monk his whole life after being Moses by his mother, and he's the reincarnation of Golden Cicada, an original disciple of the Buddha and a holy being." Also, that he was chosen for an enirely different task by his fellow monks, namely to present a memorial to the tang emperor. All that is kind of important knowledge for later.

[@watershipup7101]

Yeah, he really needs to know that stuff.

[@CalliopePony]

Surprisingly, most of the silly and goofy things in the summary are actually in the book, like Monkey accidentally shooting laser eye beams into heaven right after he spontaneously popped out of a magic rock. Red didn't just make them up for the videos. Also, as the name indicates, the focus of the story is on the JOURNEY to the West. There are a load of ways to get the macguffin from point A to point B with very little effort, but in order to achieve their personal and spiritual goals the pilgrims have to undergo the arduous journey and face all of the trials and challenges along the way. So it's not that the dragon horse forgot that he could fly, he's just not allowed to make it too easy. That's also why Kuan Yin can't just drop the scriptures off herself and why Monkey can't just fly Tripitaka westward on his cloud.

[@1Katakana]

Since your mishap with the play button caused you to miss this part, Red reveals that the monk character is the grandson of an emporor, he's raised as a monk after getting Moses-ed by his mother, and he's the reincarnation of the golden cicada, which was a original desiple of Buddah and a holy being. He gets choosen for being so good and virtuous by some monks who gives him 2 gifts that Guanyin gave to them (the robe and the staff Buddah gave her) so that they in return could give it to the most worthy person (aka the monk).

[@Kairukurumi]

Other people pointed it out but you skipped over Tripitaka's backstory Kind of important to know why he was chosen for this mission and why all the future antagonists are going to be after him. You don't have to record a special reaction to it just as long as you watch it sometime before the next video or two!

[@Airier]

Ah, was it in a separate vid?

[@matthewmac5787]

​@@Airier no it was when you messed with the video slider. You somehow completely skipped over his back story to the next part of the video.

[@Kairukurumi]

@@Airier It was when you accidentally skipped forward. You did not go back far enough. You only went back to when Guan Yin revealed herself to him and made him the chosen one.

[@graveyardshift2100]

Sun Wu Kong is the embodiment of chaotic neutral.

[@parkersmith8711]

THe more you get into this story you'll see how astoundingly many tropes it created

[@realVoltairex]

The story’s a metaphor for the path and struggles to reaching enlightenment. So there’s a ton of things they could do to finish the journey quickly but won’t because that’ll ruin said metaphor.

[@enlongjones2394]

And they know that in-story, too. Wukong at one point remarks to Pigsy that if he were to go by himself, he could jump to and from the monastery over a dozen times in a single day. But because the whole point of this pilgrimage is for a human to refine his spirit through hardship (and at the same time teaching morals and responsibility to his three demonic bodyguards), the Buddha would not give Wukong the scriptures if he came alone.

[@drizzmatec]

While living in heaven and before getting assigned to watch the peaches Son Wukong would just go around and have tea and chat with other heavenly spirit, so we can assume that he was on relatively good terms with some of the heavenly court. Also, if a super-powered monkey whose rampage in heaven could only be stopped by the Buddha himself, just swings by and asks to borrow something, you're better off just giving him what he wants.

[@bluexephosfan970]

BTW, Journey to the West isn't actually that old. It was written in the 16th century AD, contemporaneous to Shakespeare's plays and Don Quixote. It was published in 1592, the same year Shakespeare published Richard III

[@exceedcharge1]

He should see osp’s don quixote

[@MasterZeus94]

More Dragon Ball comparisons: Sha Wujing (Sandy) - Yamcha Zhu Bajie (Pigsy) - Oolong Sun Wukong - Goku (duh) Xuanzang/Tripitaka - Bulma

[@hussainalmahfoodh7413]

goku and ooong I can see that but the rest never clicked with me until now awesome.

[@ShikiRen]

"Is he literally just managing this because people are handholding him the entire way?" Behold, the Birth of the mightiest of things! Plot Armor! ... Also that "turn into sth edible and then beat someone up from the inside" made a showing in DBZ as well (only there, Boo actually got stronger after it...)! So many tropes originated with this, it is amazing.

[@arcticbanana66]

Journey to the West (DragonBall), the story of Tripitaka (Bulma) on a journey to obtain the Buddhist scriptures (dragon balls), accompanied by Sun Wukong (Son Goku), Pigsy (Oolong), Sandy (Yamcha), and a shapeshifting but only situationally useful dragon (Puar).

[@kupaakaleo137]

2:37 it's..... kinda complicated, basically the name Sha Wujing (which means "sand aware of purity") is derived from the river where he was living in, which in turn translates to "great sand river" despite said river being made of water. The simplified translated versions of the story give him the nickname "Sandy" (as well as some others, including but not limited to: Friar Sand, Sand Monk, Mr. Sand, Sand Ogre, Sand Monster, and strangely enough "Water Buffalo")

[@morrismccab]

Airier: "Aah! What did I just press?" KZbin: Time for a commercial break!

[@cliffwarden5934]

Yes, that was the dbz recap music

[@Airier]

😁👍 Nice.

[@roboraptorwolf9726]

“Why would someone eat kale?” As a person who likes kale, I take offense

[@synderthmc]

Then take it

[@marmyeater]

Good.

[@Kairukurumi]

As a person who does not what do you find the appeal is? (Genuinely curious btw)

[@roboraptorwolf9726]

@@Kairukurumi I just like bitter foods, well, at least certain ones. Also roasted kale is amazing.

[@Kairukurumi]

@@roboraptorwolf9726 I will admit I have never tried roasted kale. I might try that one day

[@nickolaswalker5907]

The "Sha" in Sandy's name means Sand btw

[@elianisthebrave6988]

for some funny imagery, Pigsy is Oolong and Sandy is Yamcha(the river of sand is yamcha's desert)

[@LordOfTheTermites]

And by narrative role Tripitaka is Bulma

[@elianisthebrave6988]

@@LordOfTheTermites and in the previous video, Erlang Shen, the guy with THREE EYES who could match Wukong in battle is Tien Shin Han.

[@joelsasmad]

​@@LordOfTheTermites I thought it was krillin.

[@LordOfTheTermites]

@@joelsasmad krillin is a monk and all, but bulma is effectively who drives the plot who plays the role of tripitaka(at least at the start), she finds goku, she is the one who wants to find the dragon balls, she is there from the begining.

[@Xalerdane]

Krillin is the dragon-turned-horse.

[@SilverHairedFreak25]

1:47 Just one of MANY potential plot holes that begin to crop up because "something something allegory for enlightenment".

[@LordOfTheTermites]

You kinda skipped to the end the explanation of tripitaka's ancestry, and how he was selected

[@sandorfalusi3486]

Triple Taco! Yes! No wonder every demon wants to eat him! 😂😂😂

[@SaraBrightScales]

Red does a whole series about various tropes called "Trope Talk" and it's fantastic, the one about dragons is particularly interesting.

[@neogokiMK00]

triple taco... nope that is just you, are you hungry? This was when Shonen was invented. Things based in some way on "Journey to the West"? WAAAAAAY too many to list.

[@davidkoudelka10]

You'll start to see that Kuan Yin (and Moksha) is the MVP of the series!😎👍

[@shelbybayer200]

The Whole Crown thing that tightens is a bit of the inspiration for Inuyasha's curse of when he is told to sit he immediately drops

[@anyathepanther7977]

The Horse Dragon is not allowed to fly, becouse by the End of the day, Tripataka has to make the Journey by his own Terms. As a Human Beeing. Also the whole burning the Monestary story has more to it. The old Monk stole the Kazak under the Pretext of washing it. But when he had it he not only realiced that it was expensive, but also holy and Not meant for the likes of him. Sooooooo he banged his head against the Ground, killing himself. And in the Aftermath the Westwing caught fire.

[@thomasdahlberg5920]

Kale is surprisingly good when sautéed with garlic, salt, pepper, and a bit of oil.

[@greenhat8978]

I also recommend watching Overly Sarcastic Productions Halloween specials

[@ShahroozSmith]

So.. You're gonna notice that Dragon Ball (Not so much Dragon Ball Z) borrowed a lot of concepts from Journey to the West... Oolong (the pig guy who lives with Master Roshi in Dragon Ball Z) is based off Pigsy. Hence why Red did the DBZ Recap music at the start of the video.

[@GCRavn42]

6:29 No, I believe it’s just you. She didn’t say Triple Taco. “Tripitaka”!

[@thomasfoster7387]

judging by how much westerly travelling they do, the Buddha must live in Portugal or something

[@lenraito3996]

It belonged to the Buddha, so it would be priceless

[@Theturtleowl]

Red used the acual DBZ background music for the intro. Love the attention to detail.

[@raw6668]

Arirer, silk robes back then would take gold to buy the material. Unless you were of nobility, work for nobility as a court official, or were extremely rich, you likely did not wear silk and probably get executed if you got it dirty. I mean making silk requires taking the silk webbing of silkworm cocoons. Magical robes embroidered with gold would equal probably equal the price of building a palace.

[@user-cl6lw6rc1c]

The silk was actually the shortcomings of the cassock, it also has about twenty types of jewels being stacked onto it.

[@matthewdougherty1159]

Airier 5:50 lol i found that out by accident too, if you left click the timeline and drag up you can go frame by frame. the more you know i guess.

[@banrajanand7983]

So the horse is a dragon that transformed into a horse, the horse is supposed to be the metaphorical representation of the human will, it can do a lot of things. It just... doesn't.

[@WorldWeave]

You should react to their diVINE series…it’s various mythologies/stories as vines, and they’re VERY funny

[@Marcharound]

If you’re interested in tropes Red has an entire series called “Trope Talks”. Basically discusses their history and how they can appear in media.

[@Floki_lucifer]

Let's face it, the journey to the West is just the authors written records of how their longest game of DND ever is going

[@JakeTheBeastDelta]

Goku and Luffy are both based off of Sun Wukong.

[@Baldwin-iv445]

9:50 Ninja: We're Buddhist and killing is part of our profession. Soldier of the Japanese empire: Yeah just go literally anywhere we went the evidence speaks for itself. Japanese government: None of that happened we did nothing wrong!

[@claudius3359]

Can you tell me what this is? I wanna look into it.

[@mercedesortega2292]

the one at 18:36 is the correct one for wukong 🤣🤣🤣

[@omikun17]

yes you are the only one that heard "Triple taco" but those scrolls he's carrying there are 3 of them.

[@Morphikus]

Funfact (I know I'm late): Sandy got banished because he broke a goblet on accident. Granted, it was made out of crystal, but still...

[@8umber]

"Buddhist do not kill." I will be happy to point out the Buddhist monks of Honoji Temple during the waring States era of Japan. I know it's off topic from the video but I feel like the hypocrisy of that statement needed to be addressed.

[@ConnorSinclairCavin]

Note on you saying the story is “only” 2000 pages long, thats 2000 pages of the original language, were, in one “letter” they can write almost a full sentence. So… its longer than you think.

[@sonicanvaspost6867]

Pigsy's name was Zhu Wuneng, but he was more likely known as Zhu Bajie

[@ch33les99]

Are you gonna only watch this series the whole way through, or are you planning on watching other OSP videos in between? Cause I’d suggest checking out the Trope Talk series

[@Airier]

Not entirely sure yet. I might watch a bit of this until it comes to a good point and then maybe check something else out and come back to it later.

[@RedwoodTheElf]

Bulma = The Priest Goku = You already know by now Yamcha = Sandy Oolong = Pigsy The Horse Thing = More or less Chi Chi/The Ox King

[@Xalerdane]

The Bull Demon King is a different character.

[@gabrielswee585]

06:18 🤣🤣🤣🤣 *LMAO!!! "Triple Tarco"*

[@SirAroace]

you skipped a important chunk

[@kaiyang6704]

Oh well I guess he’s just a cleric but he can’t heal

[@cameronriddle4520]

i know what youre thinking of when you were talking about the whole Buddhist dont kill section, but youre thinking of a different religion, its pretty rare to have a terrorist who is Buddhist, and even rarer for it to happen in the USA. theyre very outwardly chill in comparison to other religions.

[@theirishviking9278]

And know you know why son wukong is also called "the prisoner of the golden headband"

[@codexzero3504]

Sun Wukong became immortal 7 time, because why not, you can never be TOO immortal 1st the Daoist skill made him immortal 2nd he erased his name from the book of hell making hell unable to collect his soul 3rd the peach of immortality 4th the immortal wine that made him immortal 5th the pill of immortality 6th the furnace that supposed to separate his immortality but burn away his remaining mortality instead making him more immortal 7th Sun Wukong manage to obtain enlightenment at the end of his journey and become a Buddhist god making him equal to Buddha

[@wesleylapine8224]

No I heard triple taco with you airier enough so that I had to stop the video to get triple tacos for the fun of it so I can say I completed the journey to the west speed runner style

[@TalasDD]

at the end of Journey to the West Sun wokong will have achived immortality 8 times.

[@shelbybayer200]

I actually like the DBZ joke given how Son Goku was based off of Sun Wukong aka the Monkey king Ever heard of the Lego show Monkey Kid ? Well he's trained by the Monkey king Wukong who just so happens to be voiced...... By Goku's va

[@geonunes10]

From now on I'll call Tripitaka Triple Taco

[@deadphones5041]

Anime trope number 27: Every enemy that you beat up and become friends with, will somehow forget/will never use their OP powers they used in their first appearance.

[@TheArcSet]

Thanks for this reaction. _Aisle 99._

[@Mari_aboo]

Wukong is like an eternal child

[@afluffydeathclaw2644]

Yo, are you using a new camera? The visual quality here seems completely different from the last few, and not in a bad way.

[@afluffydeathclaw2644]

Kale is pretty good if you fry it.

[@kevinneutzling8267]

Tripitaka-Buddhists don’t kill. Me: yeah… I’m pretty sure Japan would have a few choice words for you on that.

[@cam7990]

I'm like 95% sure that Tripitaka was based on a real person who did actually go on a Buddhist pilgramage

[@genesismultiverse4896]

Fun fact sun wukong eats chips (he makes them out of his hair)

[@michaeldayman682]

Likely this story isnt the originator of all those tropes, just the one that was famous enough to survive through history.

[@bthsr7113]

"Bhudists do not kill." Let me tell you about a king of medieval Thailand. He tried that. It didn't work.

[@skyrunner021]

Kale is Great! It or spinach with Garlic is amazing!

[@pokemfan951]

I heard that Nanoha drop at 18:29. Sun Wukong vs. White Devil... whose friendship is stronger?

[@DarkRaikon]

the horse is a flying dragon....so if he wasn't a horse he could fly

[@GCRavn42]

22:14 H. P Lovecraft.

[@seaFObooBies123]

red has to be like an english teach or something

[@calebgoodman3028]

The horse is the dragon transformed, which is why it can fly.

[@TalasDD]

sun wukong is actualy immortal 8 way. 1. Being born the Stone monkey (Chinese ancient animalism). 2. the 81 Transformations (daoism), 3. crossed from the books of the Dead (chinese folk religion), 4. Immortal peaches (a thousand times over/konfucianism), 5. immortal wine (multible bottles/konfuzianism), 6. pills of immortality, (docents/daoism) 7. being cooked in lautzes brasier (daoism). One of the ideas of the journey is that wukong needs to reach an 8th type of immortality and true immortality by doing so. 8 being a mystical number in buddism in contrast to the 9 in daoism (base of 81 transformations 9*9.) At the same time there is a strong implication that the buddist immortality it the only true immortality.

[@raw6668]

I can't wait until you do trope talks. I recommend the one that deals with Dragons and Idiot Ball.

[@Darkendrain]

Yup, Journey to the West was a fetch quest

[@seanmcfadden3712]

I read an abridged version of Journey To The West. I didn't find it too dry, just a bit chewy. Admittedly, the version I read was about a third of the full thing, because it cut out a lot of the episodic parts of the middle.

[@theotherbaratheon1895]

Red has made two videos on the Trojan War

[@aknkkskd]

You should watch OSPs The Iliad it was the first video that they animated, also "Troy Story".

[@michaelhamilton3169]

You are not alone I heard triple taco

[@stitchesbunny8496]

Oolong from Dragon Ball is based off of Pigsy from Journey to the west. ✌️

[@CyberBlastoise]

Don't worry dude, I always forget Lovecraft's name too. It's not just you.

[@Iamnuketastic]

I don’t know what Sha Wujing means, but in English he’s usually called Sandy because the River he lives in is the Flowing Sands River.

[@Banedragon]

Horrible phobias Lovecraft, is the guy who did c'tuthlu

[@Ilikecatsismychannelname]

I regularly binge this playlist on OSP. No need to worry about me giving the original a view. It gets so many from me...

[@cyberdragoon1432]

2:48 Not really a direct translation but more of derogatory translation and shortening of the name 16:25 Not immortality leaves by the way

[@Armorion]

9:56 "Buddhist do not kill" Khmer, Javanese, and the rest of South East Asia would disagree, and that's just their history and not mentioning the things happening today.

[@chibipotate]

Being fair they might have said the monkey-man was under a mountain for 500 Years, But they didnt say he was alone for all that, Who knows maybe he became a great conversationalist during that time and managed to apologise and become besties with everyone.

[@ZoanBlade90]

I heard "trip a takis."

[@fairiesandlillies3471]

This remind me of the sit spell in inuyasha

[@gamemasternintendoo]

6:15 🤔Am I the only one that thinks that sounds like she was talking about some type of Mexican food?